Yep, I bought a Mac Mini, got frustrated with OSX, and put Ubuntu on it. It's "dual booting", for what it's worth, but I never actually boot into OSX - I find it easier to get my work done in Linux. Now that Leopard provides multiple desktops I might consider giving it a second shot. The combination of multiple desktops and scale (beryl/compiz-fusion's version of OSX's "expose") is extremely powerful.
I suspect you think I'm one of them. Mind un-foeing me if that's the case? I like what you say for the most part, but I think at one point we were at odds about mono in one comment thread. If you didn't think I was a twitter puppet then keep me foe'd because I meant everything I said, but if you foe'd me because you thought I was twitter, I'd prefer that be undone.
I tend to disfavor X11VNC because it's more bandwidth hungry and less secure than FreeNX. FreeNX is just X11 forwarding with some extremely well done protocol-specific encryption that gives you the whole desktop environment (kde/gnome) not just a single program.
Most of the time if you use it you'll want to edit/usr/NX/etc/server.conf (may be node.conf) and disable the user DB and pass DB so it'll let you use your SSH logins/passes.
Once you get ssh running on his machine you can remote desktop with FreeNX, use files remotely with sftp and sshfs, and remote command line with simple ssh, all with the same username/pass and all encrypted. Joy:-)
I just don't understand the "live with it, like it or not" mentality.
Change does happen, and it will happen faster if people that want it help. Give Ubuntu a shot. Give OSX a shot. Become just one more person that's looking for answers other than "roll over and accept it". Windows's OEM lockin is not a law of nature, for heaven's sake.
Took me ages to give up on my PIII 500MHTZ FreeBSD box. Finally retired it in 2005. It's impressive what a difference a streamlined OS can make. FreeBSD + Enlightenment17 == low requirements with a visually appealing interface. I could still watch DivX (most) movies with no dropped frames even when I retired it.
While twitter has at times shown zealotry, the GP post shows no signs of it. If you can't refute the post based on its actual content, don't resort to an attack on past character. If that's the best retort you have, perhaps you shouldn't respond.
I not only have a real job but own a company, and I use Linux on the desktop because it saves me time and money. I don't have to have a seperate protocol for sharing files and remote desktop. I can drag a remote file onto an editor and save from the editor, and it'll save the remote copy. I have N desktops to spread my work over, and I'm a very visual person: I need that space.
My experience with windows is that it constantly needs attention, and I don't want to waste my time on that. The only reason Windows would be lower maintenance is Windows-only 3rd party applications, and for a software firm I don't need those. Any time someone thinks they need.NET work done within two questions I have it boiled down to "someone told me it had to be done in.NET and I believed them."
I'd consider this on topic, as it has to do with consumers switching - Perhaps next time make sure you have SSH access to the machine and you can install the video viewer yourself much more easily than if you'd walked him through it.
If you can't install the viewer via command line, FreeNX is a great bandwidth-friendly, responsive remote desktop solution that runs over your already open SSH port.
As long as their router is set up to forward the port and be available via dyndns, you're golden. Don't take a half hour walking them through it, do it yourself in 15 seconds with a shell script you wrote up last time you had to do this for someone.
I wouldn't say that's the ONLY consumer movement. Perhaps the only one that's trackable by sales.
When my relatives come to me to fix their deranged computers, I fix their Windows install then dual boot it with Ubuntu and enable ssh on it so I can remote desktop/shell/file share to it just in case they need something complex done. I make sure they know which icon is their browser, their word processor, their e-mail, and they're golden. I have about 10 of these out there now, and every one of them has said "they like their new program". They don't use Windows anymore. I have a few friends that have done the same when people come to them. It's just the least hassle for me. Keeps them out of my hair.
But there's no way to track that like you can new purchases. These are indeed consumers. They are switching over. It's a movement, and it's real.
I think we're suffering from difference of perspective here. Can Halo II be run on XP? Apparently yes.
Will more than (tops) 5% of people know that or be able to do that? Probably not. Parents buying it will see the box and say "Oh, Vista only..." (how many parents google for OS hacks for games?). It's not a technical limitation, but it is a very real limitation, and a sign of bad will. If a 3rd party can hack it to be compatible with XP but the party making it (with full source available...) doesn't, someone is TRYING to kill XP.
That means, to bring it back to the original point of this thread, that XP is indeed dying. It's being aborted.
Open your source to everyone, disallow it to be used commercially. Now you can patent cop every person you think "may have" been influenced by your source. Yay.
Picking a spec that is lower than some engineers recommended isn't a problem, but doing it solely to help Intel's quarterly earnings certainly is a problem.
And also a short-sighted "Ford will never be supplanted" style answer.
"Real world" "business people" understand markets, but they tend not to understand technology and rarely understand change. You can't always take what has been and extrapolate it to what will be - times change. It's uncomfortable and uncertain, which business people hate, but it's true.
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Short term that makes sense
Right about now it'd cost much more than it'd be worth in new sales. However, the market is getting increasingly OS agnostic, and it's not in Adobe's interest long term to stay tied to any OS. The more cross-platform they get, the more versatile they will be to OS changes.
Just look at Silverlight - it's directly targeted at Flash, and the only reason it'd succeed is because.NET is still king, and the only reason.NET would stay king is because Windows is still king. Silverlight will hurt Flash if it's allowed to grow, and Flash is a big cash cow for Adobe.
Now that Microsoft is targeting a big Adobe product, Adobe needs to take steps to revoke their support of Microsoft's big cash cows (Windows and Office).
Since Office is being challenged by web apps and Open Office, Adobe would be wise to help weaken reliance on Windows, and that means showing the world that they can get what they want on whatever OS they choose. Linux is a good next step.
You're absolutely right that Adobe has their own abstraction layer, and while I'd LOVE to see ports of their apps to Linux I think it'd help their bottom line more to work out the bugs in their current implementation. Windows will randomly steal "always on top" status, and let go of it at equally random times. Windows do not shade/resize/shrink consistently and predictably. In short, it's really annoying.
They're welcome to port their suite to Linux, but as long as they're charging people for it I'd prefer they fix their windowing code first.
This is all gripe against Flash CS3 in Windows. It seemed to behave a bit better in mac, and I couldn't for the life of me get Flash CS3 to work in Linux.
Look at the dates on the e-mails. It reads backwards, chronologically. So it's really "I'll get after Nikon" "it's the same everywhere" "do we need to do something different are scanners particularly bad" (obviously paraphrased).
That said I'm definitely not defending the mails - I got a good chuckle at their expense a few times.
Your scenarios are not common in the least. Most people don't install windows themselves, so they don't buy it except when included as an OEM license. In that case, the price is bundled with the cost of the machine, so it's hidden. I'd go as far as to say 90% of Windows installations are paid for because corporations won't risk license raids and non-nerds don't know there's a choice or a cost involved.
True that. More than a few times I've had to boot into an Ubuntu live CD to fix a Windows machine. Not even BartPE or other Windows live discs would do the trick, because they didn't have decent tools to work with partitions, boot sectors, etc.
It's all there on the Ubuntu live CD, or it's just an apt-get install away, with wireless supported out of the box.
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Oh, I dunno... morals? Just throwin' it out there.
Yep, I bought a Mac Mini, got frustrated with OSX, and put Ubuntu on it. It's "dual booting", for what it's worth, but I never actually boot into OSX - I find it easier to get my work done in Linux. Now that Leopard provides multiple desktops I might consider giving it a second shot. The combination of multiple desktops and scale (beryl/compiz-fusion's version of OSX's "expose") is extremely powerful.
I suspect you think I'm one of them. Mind un-foeing me if that's the case? I like what you say for the most part, but I think at one point we were at odds about mono in one comment thread. If you didn't think I was a twitter puppet then keep me foe'd because I meant everything I said, but if you foe'd me because you thought I was twitter, I'd prefer that be undone.
I tend to disfavor X11VNC because it's more bandwidth hungry and less secure than FreeNX. FreeNX is just X11 forwarding with some extremely well done protocol-specific encryption that gives you the whole desktop environment (kde/gnome) not just a single program.
/usr/NX/etc/server.conf (may be node.conf) and disable the user DB and pass DB so it'll let you use your SSH logins/passes.
:-)
Most of the time if you use it you'll want to edit
Once you get ssh running on his machine you can remote desktop with FreeNX, use files remotely with sftp and sshfs, and remote command line with simple ssh, all with the same username/pass and all encrypted. Joy
I just don't understand the "live with it, like it or not" mentality.
Change does happen, and it will happen faster if people that want it help. Give Ubuntu a shot. Give OSX a shot. Become just one more person that's looking for answers other than "roll over and accept it". Windows's OEM lockin is not a law of nature, for heaven's sake.
Cute.
Took me ages to give up on my PIII 500MHTZ FreeBSD box. Finally retired it in 2005. It's impressive what a difference a streamlined OS can make. FreeBSD + Enlightenment17 == low requirements with a visually appealing interface. I could still watch DivX (most) movies with no dropped frames even when I retired it.
When pirating your product becomes easier than buying your product, we have a problem. Microsoft, RIAA, MPIAA, are you listening?
... he's more beautiful than I could possibly have imagined! Do I get 3 wishes?
While twitter has at times shown zealotry, the GP post shows no signs of it. If you can't refute the post based on its actual content, don't resort to an attack on past character. If that's the best retort you have, perhaps you shouldn't respond.
I not only have a real job but own a company, and I use Linux on the desktop because it saves me time and money. I don't have to have a seperate protocol for sharing files and remote desktop. I can drag a remote file onto an editor and save from the editor, and it'll save the remote copy. I have N desktops to spread my work over, and I'm a very visual person: I need that space.
.NET work done within two questions I have it boiled down to "someone told me it had to be done in .NET and I believed them."
My experience with windows is that it constantly needs attention, and I don't want to waste my time on that. The only reason Windows would be lower maintenance is Windows-only 3rd party applications, and for a software firm I don't need those. Any time someone thinks they need
I'd consider this on topic, as it has to do with consumers switching - Perhaps next time make sure you have SSH access to the machine and you can install the video viewer yourself much more easily than if you'd walked him through it.
If you can't install the viewer via command line, FreeNX is a great bandwidth-friendly, responsive remote desktop solution that runs over your already open SSH port.
As long as their router is set up to forward the port and be available via dyndns, you're golden. Don't take a half hour walking them through it, do it yourself in 15 seconds with a shell script you wrote up last time you had to do this for someone.
This is true: money is a huge problem for Microsoft.
I wouldn't say that's the ONLY consumer movement. Perhaps the only one that's trackable by sales.
When my relatives come to me to fix their deranged computers, I fix their Windows install then dual boot it with Ubuntu and enable ssh on it so I can remote desktop/shell/file share to it just in case they need something complex done. I make sure they know which icon is their browser, their word processor, their e-mail, and they're golden. I have about 10 of these out there now, and every one of them has said "they like their new program". They don't use Windows anymore. I have a few friends that have done the same when people come to them. It's just the least hassle for me. Keeps them out of my hair.
But there's no way to track that like you can new purchases. These are indeed consumers. They are switching over. It's a movement, and it's real.
I think we're suffering from difference of perspective here. Can Halo II be run on XP? Apparently yes.
Will more than (tops) 5% of people know that or be able to do that? Probably not. Parents buying it will see the box and say "Oh, Vista only..." (how many parents google for OS hacks for games?). It's not a technical limitation, but it is a very real limitation, and a sign of bad will. If a 3rd party can hack it to be compatible with XP but the party making it (with full source available...) doesn't, someone is TRYING to kill XP.
That means, to bring it back to the original point of this thread, that XP is indeed dying. It's being aborted.
I would mod you funny, but I used all the points yesterday. Dangit.
This screams "Patent litigation opportunity."
Open your source to everyone, disallow it to be used commercially. Now you can patent cop every person you think "may have" been influenced by your source. Yay.
Picking a spec that is lower than some engineers recommended isn't a problem, but doing it solely to help Intel's quarterly earnings certainly is a problem.
Congratulations, UnderOath, you have a better chance at suing. Use it wisely.
And also a short-sighted "Ford will never be supplanted" style answer. "Real world" "business people" understand markets, but they tend not to understand technology and rarely understand change. You can't always take what has been and extrapolate it to what will be - times change. It's uncomfortable and uncertain, which business people hate, but it's true.
Short term that makes sense
.NET is still king, and the only reason .NET would stay king is because Windows is still king. Silverlight will hurt Flash if it's allowed to grow, and Flash is a big cash cow for Adobe.
Right about now it'd cost much more than it'd be worth in new sales. However, the market is getting increasingly OS agnostic, and it's not in Adobe's interest long term to stay tied to any OS. The more cross-platform they get, the more versatile they will be to OS changes.
Just look at Silverlight - it's directly targeted at Flash, and the only reason it'd succeed is because
Now that Microsoft is targeting a big Adobe product, Adobe needs to take steps to revoke their support of Microsoft's big cash cows (Windows and Office).
Since Office is being challenged by web apps and Open Office, Adobe would be wise to help weaken reliance on Windows, and that means showing the world that they can get what they want on whatever OS they choose. Linux is a good next step.
You're absolutely right that Adobe has their own abstraction layer, and while I'd LOVE to see ports of their apps to Linux I think it'd help their bottom line more to work out the bugs in their current implementation. Windows will randomly steal "always on top" status, and let go of it at equally random times. Windows do not shade/resize/shrink consistently and predictably. In short, it's really annoying.
They're welcome to port their suite to Linux, but as long as they're charging people for it I'd prefer they fix their windowing code first.
This is all gripe against Flash CS3 in Windows. It seemed to behave a bit better in mac, and I couldn't for the life of me get Flash CS3 to work in Linux.
Look at the dates on the e-mails. It reads backwards, chronologically. So it's really "I'll get after Nikon" "it's the same everywhere" "do we need to do something different are scanners particularly bad" (obviously paraphrased).
That said I'm definitely not defending the mails - I got a good chuckle at their expense a few times.
Your scenarios are not common in the least. Most people don't install windows themselves, so they don't buy it except when included as an OEM license. In that case, the price is bundled with the cost of the machine, so it's hidden. I'd go as far as to say 90% of Windows installations are paid for because corporations won't risk license raids and non-nerds don't know there's a choice or a cost involved.
True that. More than a few times I've had to boot into an Ubuntu live CD to fix a Windows machine. Not even BartPE or other Windows live discs would do the trick, because they didn't have decent tools to work with partitions, boot sectors, etc.
It's all there on the Ubuntu live CD, or it's just an apt-get install away, with wireless supported out of the box.