Also, some of us can contribute to open source projects as part of our work. Using a library in the software you're working on, and find yourself wishing it could do X, Y or Z for you? Implement it in their code rather than yours and ship the change back.
You'll be writing the code either way - may as well share it.
I don't know why it's run as a standalone app rather than as a plugin inside Firefox. It's run in a separate process so if a plugin crashes your FireFox process won't get halted by the OS for a seg fault or whatever. This way a plugin can't crash your browser.
90% of dual booters I know are only keeping Windows around for gaming.
Most polls I've seen on what keeps a person away from Linux have an option for "games" and it's usually pretty popular.
I stopped playing games for the most part when I switched to Linux because I didn't want to bother rebooting into Windows. If ATI (AMD now, rather) put out some good Linux drivers I'd start playing games again.
Do you really believe that C# is more portable than C++?
The only thing that gives it even a hint of appearing to be cross platform is that you're writing using a standard library (the.net api). Suchlibrariesalready exist in C++ and have for some time.
C# does not run as well on any other platform as it does on Windows - just a fact. Winforms support is still heavily lacking, etc. I can guarantee it never will, either..NET is said to be a move towards a cross-platform development stack because Microsoft badly needs to maintain the image of 'playing nice' so they won't get the legal smackdown again, but it never will be fully compatible. Microsoft wants it that way.
Probably not, if you're so satisfied with listening to your stomach (metaphor). You may not miss it, but that doesn't mean you're better off without it.
No single year will have credit because the change is happening slowly but surely.
Is Linux ready as a desktop? Hell yes.
Are all the 3rd party apps necessary for every customer available on Linux? Hell no!
Is that changing day by day, app by app? Yes.
It's only a matter of time. Standard consumer needs are already being met by desktop distrobutions. Before long the application base will increase and fringe cases will be covered. At that point, an OS will actually have to give you a reason (not "all the apps you want only run on our OS!") to spend money on it. Wouldn't that be nice - them having to earn their money.
it seems to be asking a little much to expect Microsoft to fix a bug nobody knew reported until now There, fixed it for you. Just because this is the first time the bug was reported doesn't mean it's the first time it's been discovered. It may have been privately exploited for years at this point.
Alright... so what all will this Service Pack entail besides the number generator fix? Hey, something has to bloat XP enough that Vista starts to look good.
That's true. I don't remember if it's still this way, but in the 9x days any process could arbitrarily decide to "debug" another and be granted access to its internals.
If that's true of the NT line, you could exploit this without admin privileges easily.
In high assurance systems, be it equipment on an aircraft (that has obvious life or death impact) or equipment for voting (that has indirect, but just as serious consequences), any change has to be certified.
There are lots of ways a seemingly ineffectual change can cause unforeseen consequences, so it's not up to the person making the changes to decide what is and isn't a 'trivial' change. Even if the changes can now be proven to be trivial and no danger to proper operation, this is still the right move to make -- people can't be allowed to bypass the controls they agreed should be put in place. I hope this doesn't do them under, because I can sympathize even if I think voting machines are a bad idea. I'd love to see them gone, I'd just like it to be done for a reason that proves someone else shouldn't come back and try to make a similar product but follow the rules.
You see, all the other rootkits will trust this one, thinking it's one of THEM!!! Then all you have to do is have your rootkit tell them that it can't stay long and would they please let it have this password/account number and they can steal the next.
They'll never even know this was a good guy root kit the whole time!
So this is really ironic - Its my understating from reading hundreds and hundreds of/. posts that this isn't supposed to happen with FOSS. Then you misunderstood.
Who did the code reviews? eEye Digital Security.
Who did the security reviews? eEye Digital Security.
Who did all the threat modeling? I'll give you three guesses.
The security impact of open source software is not that it has less bugs, but that they get found because people can analyze the source. Read this article and you'll see that's exactly what happened. It's good news.
You will have bugs in your software, and they will be found. The difference is are they found by 'good guys' that will warn you and help you fix it or are they found by 'bad guys' that root your system?
I interned at a place that had a Windows product since Win 3.1
They have had to make a lot of changes since then to stay compatible with Windows, understandably, but staying compatible with Vista has cost them WAY more than expected. The rift in compatibility is huge. I can guarantee the next version of their software will have a higher cost because of that.
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It still requires 2x the memory XP did, with no significant advantages Parent:
So does Leopard, and do you hear people whine about that? OSX is a memory hog too. You correlated the memory part, but not the "significant advantages" part. That's kind of an important part of the statement. I don't use OSX, I don't really even like it, but I agree it's leaps and bounds ahead of Windows XP, which makes it leaps and f***ing huge bounds ahead of Vista by my book. To me, memory usage is understandable if it's doing something useful.
think you underestimate what most people do on their PCs, especially at work. Every time I "fix" someone's computer (they usually just need Windows to be reinstalled), I install Linux along side it so I can SSH in there and fix things from my place if something goes wrong. I show them how to get into Linux, and invite them to dink around with it. At least half of them decided to use it exclusively because they liked it better and it met their needs. These are not technical users - it's people like my 52 year old step dad who's afraid to death of computers.
As far as work goes, I understand proprietary stuff can be fairly prevalent, but I know in medical practices in my area only one computer (the biller's computer) needs proprietary Windows software - the rest can deal with whatever OS has a word processor and web browser. For my software business I only need to use Windows to create Flash stuff, and few customers need that. When I really think about it there are a surprising number of businesses that could get away with 50% or less o the Windows licenses they bought and not notice a difference.
What's going to come out that will magically increase productivity? Virtual desktops, revision control built into the file system, dedicated swap partitions (ever gotten a fragmented swap file in windows? Sucks ASS!), support for remote file systems for every application (via SSHFS or SambaFS) so you can hit "save" in your text editor and it saves the file on your web server... seriously I could go on for quite a while, and I'm not even including Apple's advancements here, just Linux desktops. Throw expose (or 'scale' in Linux) the like in there and you have a world of difference.
I've gotten so spoiled with Linux desktop environments that I feel constricted and frustrated when I'm forced to use Windows. It makes a very noticeable difference. Browsing the web and something reminds you that you need to do task X, but you don't want to forget what you're doing now? Switch to a new desktop and do it, then switch back and everything is how you left it.
You needs may differ from mine, but I can tell you there are plenty of ways to "magically" increase productivity by switching operating systems for a lot of people.
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Mine was for American Express. TALK ABOUT WEIRD.
Just goofing with you of course - I think your situation was just a fairly entertaining coincidence.
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But if it has more users it NEEDS MORE MAN MONTHS!!!!
- some PHB
Also, some of us can contribute to open source projects as part of our work. Using a library in the software you're working on, and find yourself wishing it could do X, Y or Z for you? Implement it in their code rather than yours and ship the change back.
You'll be writing the code either way - may as well share it.
90% of dual booters I know are only keeping Windows around for gaming.
Most polls I've seen on what keeps a person away from Linux have an option for "games" and it's usually pretty popular.
I stopped playing games for the most part when I switched to Linux because I didn't want to bother rebooting into Windows. If ATI (AMD now, rather) put out some good Linux drivers I'd start playing games again.
Do you really believe that C# is more portable than C++?
.net api). Such libraries already exist in C++ and have for some time.
.NET is said to be a move towards a cross-platform development stack because Microsoft badly needs to maintain the image of 'playing nice' so they won't get the legal smackdown again, but it never will be fully compatible. Microsoft wants it that way.
The only thing that gives it even a hint of appearing to be cross platform is that you're writing using a standard library (the
C# does not run as well on any other platform as it does on Windows - just a fact. Winforms support is still heavily lacking, etc. I can guarantee it never will, either.
Do you miss your spine?
Probably not, if you're so satisfied with listening to your stomach (metaphor). You may not miss it, but that doesn't mean you're better off without it.
No single year will have credit because the change is happening slowly but surely.
Is Linux ready as a desktop? Hell yes.
Are all the 3rd party apps necessary for every customer available on Linux? Hell no!
Is that changing day by day, app by app? Yes.
It's only a matter of time. Standard consumer needs are already being met by desktop distrobutions. Before long the application base will increase and fringe cases will be covered. At that point, an OS will actually have to give you a reason (not "all the apps you want only run on our OS!") to spend money on it. Wouldn't that be nice - them having to earn their money.
You have to translate these things so the troll can understand. Trolls have no use for your "facts" or "reason". I'll do the honors.
"OMG no ur wrong fag.Lol."
That's true. I don't remember if it's still this way, but in the 9x days any process could arbitrarily decide to "debug" another and be granted access to its internals.
If that's true of the NT line, you could exploit this without admin privileges easily.
In high assurance systems, be it equipment on an aircraft (that has obvious life or death impact) or equipment for voting (that has indirect, but just as serious consequences), any change has to be certified.
There are lots of ways a seemingly ineffectual change can cause unforeseen consequences, so it's not up to the person making the changes to decide what is and isn't a 'trivial' change. Even if the changes can now be proven to be trivial and no danger to proper operation, this is still the right move to make -- people can't be allowed to bypass the controls they agreed should be put in place. I hope this doesn't do them under, because I can sympathize even if I think voting machines are a bad idea. I'd love to see them gone, I'd just like it to be done for a reason that proves someone else shouldn't come back and try to make a similar product but follow the rules.
In otherwords, be a hero while being an ass at the same time! Fuck with their data endlessly :-)
Yes, this is funny, but in light of the parent post: how much funny and how much true?
You see, all the other rootkits will trust this one, thinking it's one of THEM!!! Then all you have to do is have your rootkit tell them that it can't stay long and would they please let it have this password/account number and they can steal the next.
They'll never even know this was a good guy root kit the whole time!
The security impact of open source software is not that it has less bugs, but that they get found because people can analyze the source. Read this article and you'll see that's exactly what happened. It's good news.
You will have bugs in your software, and they will be found. The difference is are they found by 'good guys' that will warn you and help you fix it or are they found by 'bad guys' that root your system?
Ubuntu is on a 6 month cycle, not one year.
I interned at a place that had a Windows product since Win 3.1
They have had to make a lot of changes since then to stay compatible with Windows, understandably, but staying compatible with Vista has cost them WAY more than expected. The rift in compatibility is huge. I can guarantee the next version of their software will have a higher cost because of that.
As far as work goes, I understand proprietary stuff can be fairly prevalent, but I know in medical practices in my area only one computer (the biller's computer) needs proprietary Windows software - the rest can deal with whatever OS has a word processor and web browser. For my software business I only need to use Windows to create Flash stuff, and few customers need that. When I really think about it there are a surprising number of businesses that could get away with 50% or less o the Windows licenses they bought and not notice a difference.
I've gotten so spoiled with Linux desktop environments that I feel constricted and frustrated when I'm forced to use Windows. It makes a very noticeable difference. Browsing the web and something reminds you that you need to do task X, but you don't want to forget what you're doing now? Switch to a new desktop and do it, then switch back and everything is how you left it.
You needs may differ from mine, but I can tell you there are plenty of ways to "magically" increase productivity by switching operating systems for a lot of people.
And that's why Ron Paul gets my vote.