"If that's a defeat then I guess the US has lost a lot of wars." The US has lost a lot of wars, Vietnam ring any bells? War of 1812? That however, is beside the point, Iraq is as close to complete and total explosion as any Mid East nation since Iran under the Shah; the war has added to the political polarization globally and dramatically increased the number of dedicated anti US terrorists in many nations around the world, THIS is not a victory, it is a complete and total loss on a scale not seen before. Vietnam fell to Soviet backed revolutionaries; Iraq has been taken from the US by a loose collection of still novice resistance fighters. How embarrassing for her invaders. How tragic for her people.
Yeah yeah paticulates are bad... so are CO2 and CO which gas engines generate in larger ammounts... unless you drive a bicycle exclusively you should stop talking.
Ok I perhaps i should also mention though i believe it was implied that passesngers and driver all walked away, it's a bloody safe car and i have to tell you that a comparrison to a completely diferent car is not particularly conclusive.
Hehe... Mercedes 240D dudes...$20CAD to fill the tank and that's good for a month for my fairly light driving needs. Hybrids rule i admit but a nice vintage diesel is still my preference. No hybrid premium (in fact the thing only cost me $500) and cheap fuel. Plus I can fix the thing myself. As for safety the damn thing weighs 3300lb; and my parts car after having a collision with an SUV at highway speeds had some frame damage but nothing came into the cabin and the thing was still drivable:)
I'm not going to discuss this with you, please just go away. You are ignorant and unlike most people you seem to enjoy it, therefore, you are hopeless. Aand just by the way i have studied biology (and thus evolution) for a lot of my life and i don't believe any of Mr. Hovind's dragons appear anywhere in the fossil record. Now, i have replied for the last time, if you want to get into an argument with an evolutionist please find another. Have a good day.
Umm ok i went to www.drdino.com and all i managed to find was a very poorly written site making fantastic claims about dragons and other fictional creatures, if this is the best that "Dr." Hovind and his friends can do i am entirely unimpressed. Please, if you want to make further wild claims in future do so by all means but back them up with reliably documented evidence rather than unsubstantiated claims or fanciful imaginings. If you or any of your friends want to be taken seriously you have to provide evidence for your assertions otherwise they will always be regarded as little more than delusions. Why fight science? why not embrace it and use it to try to assemble a body of evidence as well founded as those upon which modern cosmology or biology are built?
Have a good day:)
The U.S. joined Kyoto though, it was the Bush administration which refused to ratify it that's all.
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Yeah that's a good point but the money would still be better spent on social issues (though more wisely that it is now) than on pointless wars and occupations, but yes overall it would be nice if more money came NASAs way from wherever.
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And the amount spent on social programmes matters why? This was not the point being discussed dude. It was defence (offence) budget vs. NASA spending and an increase of what 2-3 billion dollars over their 90's budget isn't going to make a huge difference. Not to mention the most recent request asking for another 124 billion dollars to pay for the continued occupation of Iraq and Afghanisatan. $124 billion goven to NASA could fund not just project Constellation but would be a good down payment on colonizing the rest of the solar system.
Yes exactly whereas i believe the oroginal poster was referring to the Russo-Japanese war which was never officially ended though WWII effectively did so since it occured afterwards. but that's bedide the point.:)
Yeah that kind of thinking worked really well last time, the Korean war ended with a negotiated armistice and that was simply because the NATO forces felt that was a less ignominious ending than the total defeat they would eventually have been dealt. It's highly unlikely that any revived Korean conflict would end any differently so the only option is to do everything to prevent another outbreak of war in the peninsula. Anything which would tip the ballance should be discouraged.
Yeah nearly half a trillion dollars a year on Iraq and Afghanistan vs. what 16-17 billion for all of the NASA projects? This isn't just Project Orion it's also all the aeronautical research as well as various space science related work. How friggin' nuts is that? Roughly thirty times as much money spent to kill innocent people as to expand the horizons of the entire human race. Oh well there's always Russia and China for all that good stuff.
Or better yet just have them (Ruskies) build the whole damn thing for you. they have always been better with rocketry anyways, add some NK-43s to a Soyuz and go for it.
Yeah a solar sail, nothing like a large disk of whatever accelerating tonnes of waste with mNewtons of force for weeks on end to remove the danger to other spacecraft. when there's much less danger to just leave it there and let it's orbit decay naturally through drag.
Yeah just imagine it: no more worrying about the Yanks trying to get in here for the socialied medicine (cheap drugs too), great weed, and clean air/water.
That sure ain't nuclear that sounds more like anti-matter, and actually considering how long it'll take for this idea to clear all the NIMBY issues it's sure to face anti-matter should be a viable opition at about the time this proposal is realized, so good idea dude!
why use a patriot or even consider it? you admit yourself it's a POS. and the point of a space elevator is to remove such unpleasant activities as filling your passengers lungs with liquid. as for it not being attached to a base station, that's even better, as a free floating structure the energy of an impact would just be dissipated by the cable fluttering out of the way early in construction and once it's sufficiently thick an impact on a floating cable would simply appear as vibrations which would also drain the energy of the impact without dammaging the base structure.
A railgun is achievable for unmanned flights but unless you want tourists to be spaghetti sauce you still need a safe controlled means of transport. As for it being a construction project if it's under construction, first cargo freighters would be used not aircraft and second if it's under construction, any decent engineer would build from the top down as it is several orders of magnitude easier, therefore the only time in which it would be a danger to planes is in the last few hours when the cable is actually in atmosphere prior to being attached to the base station, following that aviation would be restricted to a few flights to ferry crew and cargo, more than manageable for even a lobotimized monkey let alone an air traffic controler. Why do all you people assume that the landing strip would be right next to the elevator? why not 5km away, even a severely drunk pilot couldn't mess that up.
On a space elevator the vehicle follows an exact path so a beam can be trained upon it constantly without the risk of losing power when the vehicle deviates from its trajectory. Beaming energy to a freefloating object under acceleration in a gravitational field and atmosphere (with turbulence etc.) is as risky as it comes, the second the beam ceases to be locked upon the craft it stops being a spacecraft and becomes a meteor.
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Umm dude? M = Mega (1,000,000) K = Kilo (1000) :)
"If that's a defeat then I guess the US has lost a lot of wars." The US has lost a lot of wars, Vietnam ring any bells? War of 1812? That however, is beside the point, Iraq is as close to complete and total explosion as any Mid East nation since Iran under the Shah; the war has added to the political polarization globally and dramatically increased the number of dedicated anti US terrorists in many nations around the world, THIS is not a victory, it is a complete and total loss on a scale not seen before. Vietnam fell to Soviet backed revolutionaries; Iraq has been taken from the US by a loose collection of still novice resistance fighters. How embarrassing for her invaders. How tragic for her people.
It's actually more expensive at some places here too but shopping around pays off;)
Yeah yeah paticulates are bad... so are CO2 and CO which gas engines generate in larger ammounts... unless you drive a bicycle exclusively you should stop talking.
Ok I perhaps i should also mention though i believe it was implied that passesngers and driver all walked away, it's a bloody safe car and i have to tell you that a comparrison to a completely diferent car is not particularly conclusive.
Hehe... Mercedes 240D dudes...$20CAD to fill the tank and that's good for a month for my fairly light driving needs. Hybrids rule i admit but a nice vintage diesel is still my preference. No hybrid premium (in fact the thing only cost me $500) and cheap fuel. Plus I can fix the thing myself. As for safety the damn thing weighs 3300lb; and my parts car after having a collision with an SUV at highway speeds had some frame damage but nothing came into the cabin and the thing was still drivable:)
I'm not going to discuss this with you, please just go away. You are ignorant and unlike most people you seem to enjoy it, therefore, you are hopeless. Aand just by the way i have studied biology (and thus evolution) for a lot of my life and i don't believe any of Mr. Hovind's dragons appear anywhere in the fossil record. Now, i have replied for the last time, if you want to get into an argument with an evolutionist please find another. Have a good day.
Ok nevermind, you're clearly beyond hope.
Umm ok i went to www.drdino.com and all i managed to find was a very poorly written site making fantastic claims about dragons and other fictional creatures, if this is the best that "Dr." Hovind and his friends can do i am entirely unimpressed. Please, if you want to make further wild claims in future do so by all means but back them up with reliably documented evidence rather than unsubstantiated claims or fanciful imaginings. If you or any of your friends want to be taken seriously you have to provide evidence for your assertions otherwise they will always be regarded as little more than delusions. Why fight science? why not embrace it and use it to try to assemble a body of evidence as well founded as those upon which modern cosmology or biology are built? Have a good day:)
The U.S. joined Kyoto though, it was the Bush administration which refused to ratify it that's all.
Yeah that's a good point but the money would still be better spent on social issues (though more wisely that it is now) than on pointless wars and occupations, but yes overall it would be nice if more money came NASAs way from wherever.
And the amount spent on social programmes matters why? This was not the point being discussed dude. It was defence (offence) budget vs. NASA spending and an increase of what 2-3 billion dollars over their 90's budget isn't going to make a huge difference. Not to mention the most recent request asking for another 124 billion dollars to pay for the continued occupation of Iraq and Afghanisatan. $124 billion goven to NASA could fund not just project Constellation but would be a good down payment on colonizing the rest of the solar system.
Yes exactly whereas i believe the oroginal poster was referring to the Russo-Japanese war which was never officially ended though WWII effectively did so since it occured afterwards. but that's bedide the point. :)
Dude! Well said! that's all I wanted to say except of course to wish you a good day/night etc. :)
Different war I think dude, unless you're Russian and I am completely unaware of this aspect of the history.
Yeah that kind of thinking worked really well last time, the Korean war ended with a negotiated armistice and that was simply because the NATO forces felt that was a less ignominious ending than the total defeat they would eventually have been dealt. It's highly unlikely that any revived Korean conflict would end any differently so the only option is to do everything to prevent another outbreak of war in the peninsula. Anything which would tip the ballance should be discouraged.
Yeah nearly half a trillion dollars a year on Iraq and Afghanistan vs. what 16-17 billion for all of the NASA projects? This isn't just Project Orion it's also all the aeronautical research as well as various space science related work. How friggin' nuts is that? Roughly thirty times as much money spent to kill innocent people as to expand the horizons of the entire human race. Oh well there's always Russia and China for all that good stuff.
Or better yet just have them (Ruskies) build the whole damn thing for you. they have always been better with rocketry anyways, add some NK-43s to a Soyuz and go for it.
Yeah a solar sail, nothing like a large disk of whatever accelerating tonnes of waste with mNewtons of force for weeks on end to remove the danger to other spacecraft. when there's much less danger to just leave it there and let it's orbit decay naturally through drag.
Not a grav free environment simply one in free-fall, though it makes little difference the physics are close enough
Yeah just imagine it: no more worrying about the Yanks trying to get in here for the socialied medicine (cheap drugs too), great weed, and clean air/water.
That sure ain't nuclear that sounds more like anti-matter, and actually considering how long it'll take for this idea to clear all the NIMBY issues it's sure to face anti-matter should be a viable opition at about the time this proposal is realized, so good idea dude!
why use a patriot or even consider it? you admit yourself it's a POS. and the point of a space elevator is to remove such unpleasant activities as filling your passengers lungs with liquid. as for it not being attached to a base station, that's even better, as a free floating structure the energy of an impact would just be dissipated by the cable fluttering out of the way early in construction and once it's sufficiently thick an impact on a floating cable would simply appear as vibrations which would also drain the energy of the impact without dammaging the base structure.
A railgun is achievable for unmanned flights but unless you want tourists to be spaghetti sauce you still need a safe controlled means of transport. As for it being a construction project if it's under construction, first cargo freighters would be used not aircraft and second if it's under construction, any decent engineer would build from the top down as it is several orders of magnitude easier, therefore the only time in which it would be a danger to planes is in the last few hours when the cable is actually in atmosphere prior to being attached to the base station, following that aviation would be restricted to a few flights to ferry crew and cargo, more than manageable for even a lobotimized monkey let alone an air traffic controler. Why do all you people assume that the landing strip would be right next to the elevator? why not 5km away, even a severely drunk pilot couldn't mess that up.
On a space elevator the vehicle follows an exact path so a beam can be trained upon it constantly without the risk of losing power when the vehicle deviates from its trajectory. Beaming energy to a freefloating object under acceleration in a gravitational field and atmosphere (with turbulence etc.) is as risky as it comes, the second the beam ceases to be locked upon the craft it stops being a spacecraft and becomes a meteor.