Google has one goal in mind: increase the non-IE marketshare.
Agree with this 100%.
IE only exists on Windows, hence Chrome only needs to be able to fight on that platform.
For some definition of "fight". The Firefox story has illustrated the power of the geeky community to put software on mom and dad's desktops. Firefox went from nothing to a 20-30% share (depending on who you ask). There's not nearly enough computer geeks in the world for us to hold 20% of the browser share ourselves, but nobody else would ever have heard about it if (a) we didn't all hate IE and (b) we didn't have family and friends to whom we could evangelize Firefox. (I guess the fullpage Times ad didn't hurt either, but the momentum already existed at that point.) I'll bet Google is aware of this effect, and is hoping to bring the geeks around, and use them to evangelize in the same way. It'll even be easier this time, because Firefox has softened the ground already by forcing people off of their default, and making them comfortable with the idea of switching browsers.
How do you appeal to geeks? Support the things geeks like: Linux, OS X, and extensions.
Another strategic reason is that Google is pushing into other non-Windows platforms; e.g. they want to be able to run this thing on Android-using hardware too. The browser there is already webkit-based; it might make sense to unify those codebases better, which is easier if it's already cross-platform.
As usual, people who don't understand Python are doomed to repeat the "it's not fast enough" comment.
User interface widgets are extremely fast, even in Python. All that code does is wait for the user (and even the wait loop is down in C code), so there's no reason the GUI wrapper can't be written in Python regardless of what Google wants. The rendering and javascript engine is the thing that browsers bog down on, and the renderer is a bunch of C++ webkit code, and nobody is suggesting that be changed.
On the other hand, tkinter sucks, so why not write it in Python with GTK? (Or sure, QT 4 is good too.)
What the fuck? Don't do that. Reply all has a valid use case. In fact it's the way everyone at my company most commonly replies to email messages. Why? Because the CC list is there for a reason - those are people who are supposed to know what's going on in that email thread.
How about just educating your users on checking who they're sending an email to, every single time they send one.
I think you mean "perquisites" as in "perks". "Prerequisite" means these things had to be developed before we could go to the moon, and in a sense many of them did, but that's not what you mean; you mean that they came out afterwards, because of the work that went into the moonshot.
I'm not sure what Google's goals are with Chrome, but it may not accomplish them, whatever they are. If that happens, expect Firefox to continue to grow in dominance. Google isn't going to throw all its money in one basket; it'll cut Firefox loose only when the overhead of supporting them is greater than the revenue brought in by Firefox traffic.
My wife took those things at one time. She has done and said some strange things she completely doesn't remember. At one point she took my journal (not a particularly private one, just something I frequently write things in) and wrote me a piece of haunting, non-rhyming poetry about our relationship. The handwriting veers off and down to the right, but then lines back up on a new line on the left, and the words are both lucid and completely different from her usual style. She swore she didn't remember doing it, and it's not hard for me to believe, considering everything else I've seen her do.
So - emailing while on that stuff? That barely even cracks notable.
BTW, I'm not sure I classify this as "high". She's asleep. If I remember my psychology correctly from college, what's happening is the brain is shut down and dreaming but the reticular formation has failed to disconnect the ability of the brain to cause the muscles to act.
... seriously. This would be such a great accessory for the scientifically-minded. It's a nice, distinctive-looking piece of science. Wear it as an atheist as a statement about religion; wear it next to your christian cross as a non-atheist as a statement about rational spirituality. Whatever - I just think someone could make a nice piece of thoughtful jewelery out of this.
This is spectacular advice. I'll take issue with just one bit though:
Realize that coders consider their code as a mother does her children.
Realize instead that you have to break coders of the habit of considering their code precious. Being a coder/manager myself, I know where it comes from; coding is part art. But artists also know when to destroy their crud. (I actually posted this item on the 36:1 ratio of crap to good, just a few weeks ago.)
This is easy to do if you're still writing any code yourself: occasionally tear your own code down, or mercilessly delete it, in full view of the troops. You'll have plenty of opportunities.:-) (I call this refactoring with a chainsaw.) That doesn't mean you should be merciless about anyone else's code, but it will set the right attitude.
> Oh, they try to be sneaky about it, sure. But that's what their after
Why did you go into desktop support? You clearly have a career as a psychic. Or maybe a diplomat or a spy or something. You really know how to read people like a master.
Or could it be that you're wrong, and most of them are actually just trying to install the most-hyped new browser?
Also, you're wrong about the proxy. Tor fixes that just fine.
Interesting. It's seems very unusual to me. Do you work in the United States? I've worked with many contractors over the years, both individual and corporate, and none of them has ever asked me for that.
Half up front? Really? What kind of clients do you have who are willing to front money in this way for software? As software development is generally considered to have no up-front expenses, and you aren't Jason Statham, I don't know who would be willing to pay that.
And for the lazy, "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()" has always been my favorite way to debug python software. Add that line anywhere; get a breakpoint. Make it conditional with an if statement.
Not to mention introspection right down to the bytecode at runtime (there is even a Python module that lets you edit the bytecode at runtime, if you are sufficiently crazy).
In short, you have not used Python for more than 10 minutes if you really think the debugging isn't good.
Can someone please explain to me what the advantage (presumably to the hw manufacturer) there is by having binary loadable code on the computer? Why not just store it on the hardware? Is the h/w somehow cheaper to manufacture because this is done? I really don't see how that could be.. the things have flash memory already.
True dat. There are lots of reasons for that self-defense, too, not just ambiguity in language.
People are acutely aware of what constitutes a good name and what doesn't, even if they don't really think about it. "Gimp" ain't it. "there" ain't it. "string of unpronounceable consonants" ain't it. "FCKEditor" ain't it. Since we have this problem in meatspace, I see nothing inherently broken about the fact that we also have it on the Internet.
And how is Google going to do a better job of searching? Magically discern your intent from the keywords you typed in? Keywords is all we have. Make your keywords better.
Suppose "what you want" is to name your project "The". Is there some way Google is going to find that when someone wants to learn about "The"? A search for the project's name would be completely useless, and no UI change or smarter algorithm is going to fix that as long as you search by typing into a text field. What a searcher would end up doing is typing in other relevant keywords, and not even including "The" as a keyword because it would serve no purpose. So your project would be indexed on the relevant keywords, which suggests that you should have named it using better keywords in the first place.
> Maybe it's just me wanting to blame the last eight years on a scapegoat
Your willingness to blame the problems of our country over the last 8 years on the people who were responsible for running it for the last 8 years sickens me.
I hope you've learned your lesson about not paying attention to cause and effect.
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Agree with this 100%.
For some definition of "fight". The Firefox story has illustrated the power of the geeky community to put software on mom and dad's desktops. Firefox went from nothing to a 20-30% share (depending on who you ask). There's not nearly enough computer geeks in the world for us to hold 20% of the browser share ourselves, but nobody else would ever have heard about it if (a) we didn't all hate IE and (b) we didn't have family and friends to whom we could evangelize Firefox. (I guess the fullpage Times ad didn't hurt either, but the momentum already existed at that point.) I'll bet Google is aware of this effect, and is hoping to bring the geeks around, and use them to evangelize in the same way. It'll even be easier this time, because Firefox has softened the ground already by forcing people off of their default, and making them comfortable with the idea of switching browsers.
How do you appeal to geeks? Support the things geeks like: Linux, OS X, and extensions.
Another strategic reason is that Google is pushing into other non-Windows platforms; e.g. they want to be able to run this thing on Android-using hardware too. The browser there is already webkit-based; it might make sense to unify those codebases better, which is easier if it's already cross-platform.
Google bought Google Earth from Keyhole. I doubt their core teams use QT much.
As usual, people who don't understand Python are doomed to repeat the "it's not fast enough" comment.
User interface widgets are extremely fast, even in Python. All that code does is wait for the user (and even the wait loop is down in C code), so there's no reason the GUI wrapper can't be written in Python regardless of what Google wants. The rendering and javascript engine is the thing that browsers bog down on, and the renderer is a bunch of C++ webkit code, and nobody is suggesting that be changed.
On the other hand, tkinter sucks, so why not write it in Python with GTK? (Or sure, QT 4 is good too.)
What the fuck? Don't do that. Reply all has a valid use case. In fact it's the way everyone at my company most commonly replies to email messages. Why? Because the CC list is there for a reason - those are people who are supposed to know what's going on in that email thread.
How about just educating your users on checking who they're sending an email to, every single time they send one.
I think you mean "perquisites" as in "perks". "Prerequisite" means these things had to be developed before we could go to the moon, and in a sense many of them did, but that's not what you mean; you mean that they came out afterwards, because of the work that went into the moonshot.
Obama's probably already stored a few TB just with the fundraising email campaigns.
Wish I had mod points. mod up parent!
I'm not sure what Google's goals are with Chrome, but it may not accomplish them, whatever they are. If that happens, expect Firefox to continue to grow in dominance. Google isn't going to throw all its money in one basket; it'll cut Firefox loose only when the overhead of supporting them is greater than the revenue brought in by Firefox traffic.
My wife took those things at one time. She has done and said some strange things she completely doesn't remember. At one point she took my journal (not a particularly private one, just something I frequently write things in) and wrote me a piece of haunting, non-rhyming poetry about our relationship. The handwriting veers off and down to the right, but then lines back up on a new line on the left, and the words are both lucid and completely different from her usual style. She swore she didn't remember doing it, and it's not hard for me to believe, considering everything else I've seen her do.
So - emailing while on that stuff? That barely even cracks notable.
BTW, I'm not sure I classify this as "high". She's asleep. If I remember my psychology correctly from college, what's happening is the brain is shut down and dreaming but the reticular formation has failed to disconnect the ability of the brain to cause the muscles to act.
Hopefully one day soon.
On that subject, nice subhead, Newsweek: "Is he a hero or a criminal?" Fuck you, Newsweek. He's a hero.
... seriously. This would be such a great accessory for the scientifically-minded. It's a nice, distinctive-looking piece of science. Wear it as an atheist as a statement about religion; wear it next to your christian cross as a non-atheist as a statement about rational spirituality. Whatever - I just think someone could make a nice piece of thoughtful jewelery out of this.
This is spectacular advice. I'll take issue with just one bit though:
Realize that coders consider their code as a mother does her children.
Realize instead that you have to break coders of the habit of considering their code precious. Being a coder/manager myself, I know where it comes from; coding is part art. But artists also know when to destroy their crud. (I actually posted this item on the 36:1 ratio of crap to good, just a few weeks ago.)
This is easy to do if you're still writing any code yourself: occasionally tear your own code down, or mercilessly delete it, in full view of the troops. You'll have plenty of opportunities. :-) (I call this refactoring with a chainsaw.) That doesn't mean you should be merciless about anyone else's code, but it will set the right attitude.
> Oh, they try to be sneaky about it, sure. But that's what their after
Why did you go into desktop support? You clearly have a career as a psychic. Or maybe a diplomat or a spy or something. You really know how to read people like a master.
Or could it be that you're wrong, and most of them are actually just trying to install the most-hyped new browser?
Also, you're wrong about the proxy. Tor fixes that just fine.
Interesting. It's seems very unusual to me. Do you work in the United States? I've worked with many contractors over the years, both individual and corporate, and none of them has ever asked me for that.
Half up front? Really? What kind of clients do you have who are willing to front money in this way for software? As software development is generally considered to have no up-front expenses, and you aren't Jason Statham, I don't know who would be willing to pay that.
More like hours? I was used to it before the end of the tutorial. It's not something you think about, really.
Any useful Python IDE does it automatically (see my list of IDEs later in this thread); if you use vim you want :set sts=4 ts=4 et sw=4
(and vim already comes with a fine indenting/syntax highlighting module for Python).
Trolling? I'll bite.
Free: http://pythonide.blogspot.com/search/label/spe
Free: http://die-offenbachs.de/eric/index.html
Free: http://docs.python.org/library/pdb.html#module-pdb (and included with Python)
Commercial, but excellent (my team uses it): http://www.wingware.com/
Commercial: http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_ide/index.mhtml
If you really love Visual Studio for some reason: http://www.activestate.com/Products/visual_python/index.plex
If you love Eclipse: http://pydev.sourceforge.net/
And for the lazy, "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()" has always been my favorite way to debug python software. Add that line anywhere; get a breakpoint. Make it conditional with an if statement.
Not to mention introspection right down to the bytecode at runtime (there is even a Python module that lets you edit the bytecode at runtime, if you are sufficiently crazy).
In short, you have not used Python for more than 10 minutes if you really think the debugging isn't good.
IHBT. HAND.
As an American, I agree. If we can depose our dictator, so can you guys.
un changement que nous pouvons croire en
(I don't speak French; blame Google.)
And an Oscar. I'm pretty sure he won a few Senate elections too.
Can someone please explain to me what the advantage (presumably to the hw manufacturer) there is by having binary loadable code on the computer? Why not just store it on the hardware? Is the h/w somehow cheaper to manufacture because this is done? I really don't see how that could be.. the things have flash memory already.
I'm going to buy World of Goo. I'm not going to buy this. Destroy DRM.
> in self-defense
True dat. There are lots of reasons for that self-defense, too, not just ambiguity in language.
People are acutely aware of what constitutes a good name and what doesn't, even if they don't really think about it. "Gimp" ain't it. "there" ain't it. "string of unpronounceable consonants" ain't it. "FCKEditor" ain't it. Since we have this problem in meatspace, I see nothing inherently broken about the fact that we also have it on the Internet.
And how is Google going to do a better job of searching? Magically discern your intent from the keywords you typed in? Keywords is all we have. Make your keywords better.
Suppose "what you want" is to name your project "The". Is there some way Google is going to find that when someone wants to learn about "The"? A search for the project's name would be completely useless, and no UI change or smarter algorithm is going to fix that as long as you search by typing into a text field. What a searcher would end up doing is typing in other relevant keywords, and not even including "The" as a keyword because it would serve no purpose. So your project would be indexed on the relevant keywords, which suggests that you should have named it using better keywords in the first place.
> Maybe it's just me wanting to blame the last eight years on a scapegoat
Your willingness to blame the problems of our country over the last 8 years on the people who were responsible for running it for the last 8 years sickens me.
I hope you've learned your lesson about not paying attention to cause and effect.
Cheney plans to shoot the other half in the face.