My local video store demanded my actual physical SSN card before they would rent me a video. (I almost refused but I really really wanted to see Weekend At Bernie's II.)
So let me get this straight. You gave somebody enough personal information about you to get a mortgage and 2 dozen credit cards in your name in order to see Weekend At Bernie's II?
Seriously, man, you have no right to complain. I bet you'd give me your SSN in exchange for a crackerjack prize.
Leviticus? Isn't that the same book that condemns people to hell for eating cheeseburgers or shrimp?
No. "Hell" is a Christian concept. There is neither "hell", nor condemnation thereto, in Judaism.
Regarding cheeseburgers and shrimp, the prohibition against eating shrimp is indeed found in Leviticus, and also appears in Deuteronomy.
The prohibition against eating cheeseburgers appears nowhere in the written Torah, but it is derived from a passage that appears in Exodus (twice) and again in Deuteronomy, but not Leviticus. That passage prohibits boiling a baby goat in his mother's milk, but not cheeseburgers per se. To get to the prohibition against eating meat and dairy together, one needs to look to the Oral Torah, where this "baby goat" passage is explained to mean not eating meat and dairy together.
The Old testament was LAW..
The New Testament was spirit!
The Golden Rule, etc.. come from the spirit
Actually, the "golden rule" is law, if you're equating the Torah with law and the Christian testament with spirit.
Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. -- Leviticus 19:18
You might consider reading the Torah sometime. You never know what you might find.;)
Christ issued the "golden rule" love your neighbour as you love your self (paraphased obviously).
"Paraphrased"? I think you meant to say "misattributed".
Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. -- Leviticus 19:18
In other words, Moses issued it about 1500 years before Jesus lived. Hell, even Confucius said it a half century before Jesus lived.
But don't let the facts stop you from taking full credit. And yes I do mean facts in the scientific sense. There are copies of the Torah that are carbon dated to before Jesus lived. Believe what you want about the origins of the Torah. The fact still remains that if Jesus ever uttered those words, he was merely quoting Torah.
Use MySQL. There is nothing wrong with it for your purposes.
Yes, postgres is better, but you don't need it now. You'll know when you do and you can take the time to learn it at that point. Postgres is harder to learn, and you won't benefit from the areas it beats MySQL in. Learning postgres is a waste of time for you right now. Wait 'till you need it.
I recommend not letting whiny slashdot posters make your technology choices for you.
If you keep reading more and more books, you'll never actually create anything. I say pick your simplest web project and take a stab at it using whatever technology you think you can pull it off in. You'll learn a lot from the experience, and then you can decide if you want to learn a whole new language.
If you listen to slashdot, you're going to be using Ruby on Rails, Postgresql, and no <table> tags. If you did that would you be using superior technology? Yes, you would be. But by the time you learn RoR (and OOAD and ActiveRecord and MVC and...) and Postgresql, you could have implemented 3 web projects in PHP/MySQL.
I'd advise you to use PHP/MySQL until they no longer meet your needs. Then, learn something else.
It sounds like you have no staging environment for QA. Fix that problem, and the issue of who deploys the code will become moot.
Put another way: your problem isn't who is actually running the deployment script. Your problem is that the deployment script is wrong to begin with. It doesn't matter if Dev runs it, an admin runs it, or the President and CEO of the company runs it when it's wrong.
The two letters that are missing from your shop are 'Q' and 'A'. Fix your QA, and it don't matter who deploys the code.
I can't see a single reason to use MySQL these days.
How about: "It's dead easy to stand up a MySQL server and use it to put your data into and get your data out of."
I didn't see MySQL in any enterprise project I've ever done. It's all Oracle or DB2. But MySQL has cornered the "I've got some data that I need to put somewhere and eventually get it back" market, and for good reason: MySQL makes it so simple.
A complete database novice can go from zero to "I've got data in my database that I can get back by saying SELECT blah FROM blah WHERE blah" in under an hour. With PostgreSQL, a novice could spend an hour trying to figure out what the heck template1 is.
The vast majority of database applications just need to do simple CRUD. Why should anyone bother with the learning curve of Postgres? But I think you already know the answer: they don't.
Yeesh. You'd think the entire country were going to heck in a handbasket, whatever the fuck that means.
- Over 12 million living in poverty
The federal poverty line is $20,000 for a family of 4. This figure includes only ordinary income and excludes any public or charitable assistance given to that family. "Living in poverty" does not imply that that person's basic needs are not being met.
And, actually, 37 million Americans live in poverty by the government's definition. It's 12%, not 12 million. But yet we don't have 37 million people starve to death each year. I'm going to suggest to you that real poverty, such that you'd find in the third world, and American "poverty", do not resemble each other much.
- 40-50 million without health care
Don't confuse "lacking health insurance" with "lacking health care". Ask any ER Doc what they do with people who arrive at the ER without insurance. I'll give you a hint: The answer is not "kick them to the curb 'cuz they can't pay."
- 25% of the worlds prison population
Source?
- 46800 car deaths in 2005
Driving is hazardous. But US roads are relatively safe compared with other parts of the world. China actually has the highest traffic fatality rate in the world.
- Every 90-second a car is colliding with a train due to lacking regulations if crossing.
Yeah, right. Every train accident is big news. And you're going to convince me that there are 960 per day which works out to 350,400 per year? I'm not going to even google that one. You're out of your mind.
- Higher education costs and arm and a leg and your first born.
Go to state school. My college tuition was about $5,000 per year. I'd like to think my first born is worth more than that. In fact, I'd place a much higher value on both my arm and my leg, never mind the value I'd place on my first born child.
Clearly the America that you are living in differs greatly from the America that the rest of America is living in.
But the only polls that matter, the elections, seem to paint a different picture.
If 60% of the country wants government-run healthcare, how come Senator Clinton isn't making that the center of her platform? I mean, last I checked, if you get 60% of the vote, you win an election.
If only 39% of the country favors outlawing abortion, how come Republicans, who are openly in favor of outlawing it seem to keep winning elections? You'd think those 53% pro-choice constituencies would tell those Republican candidates to go stuff it. Meanwhile, we've got South Dakota outlawing all abortion in all circumstances. Where are those 53%?
The whole 57% environment at the expense of their pocketbook. That's just rich. I'd love to see the questions that led to that conclusion. Voters have been voting their pocketbooks since the history of voting.
The 60% favor withdrawal from Iraq in 6 months. I think everyone would like to see us out of there in 6 months, but I doubt 60% of the country wants us out of there even if it means an Iraqi civil war that would drive up gas prices, produce a hardline dictator like they have in Iran, and make Iraq into the Jihad terrorist center of the world. See how it's all in how you frame the question?
At any rate, that's why I think your numbers are distortions of reality. They just don't seem to play out on election day.
I've never actually done a project in Rails, but from the reading that I've done about it, I definitely see your point.
To be fair, most ORM tools prefer than your object model resemble your relational model. Take Hibernate, for instance. Sure it has the flexibility to reconcile nearly all reasonable differences between the two models, but you have to admit the path of least resistance is to have the two models resemble each other as much as possible.
But I agree that ActiveRecord takes it a step further, with the whole singular/plural on the table names, etc. From what I've read, it does seem to get pretty upset if you don't follow convention. Much more so than your Hibernates and Toplinks of the world. And, like you say, it doesn't work so well for existing databases.
I have not noticed Rails being slow. If you anticipate a heavily-loaded application, you owe it to yourself to think about caching in your design. If you plan ahead, you should be able to serve up much of your site without even touching the ruby interpreter (which is, as you've noticed, dog slow) once your pages are cached.
Summary: Let RoR generate your pages and let Apache serve them once they're cached. That will make your site much faster.
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Right and wrong. Disclaimer: I am a J2EE architect who has checked out RoR out of general interest.
But a serious, multi-site web-based application that spans continents is going to require something a bit more robust.
There are definitely architectural building blocks that are missing from RoR, but vertical scaling is not one of them. In fact, a simple application (Web Tier that accesses data from a SQL database) whose requirements include the ability to scale vertically (your multi-continent example), lends itself very well to RoR. You need to handle more load? Stand up another server. Need better response time in Europe? Stand up another server. Vertical scaling is dead easy in RoR, and that makes it extremely robust.
On the other hand, let's say you are building a web-based application that needs to access multiple non-SQL legacy systems with distributed transactions. With RoR, you are dead in the water. You need something like JTA or MTS from J2EE or.NET to manage your transactions. But RoR was never intended to solve that type of problem
RoR is meant to be the 90% solution for web applications. It's for the type of application where you have a web server that access a SQL database server. For the other 10% of applications, you need to use something else. But nothing in your requirements list sounded like something RoR couldn't handle.
It's not difficult to put your jar files in the proper place. If you are having Tomcat or J2EE deployment issues, (especially classpath issues) I would suggest automating the process with something like Maven. With one of these tools, you simply declare in the configuration file which jars are needed for compilation and which are needed for runtime, and Maven makes sure that everything winds up in its proper place.
I mean, really. Java classpath issues are so 1999.
This is why the carriers started giving new phones to customers every few years. I actually switched providers from Sprint to Verizon for network issues, but looking back, I bet part of the problem was my Sprint hardware. At the time, I was so upset I didn't even want to try Sprint with a new handset. I just knew that Verizon had the best network and that's what I wanted.
I've been a VZW customer ever since and would never even consider Sprint. But had Sprint given me a new phone, I probably would have stayed with them since a new phone probably would have solved my network issues. When I called to cancel, they did offer me a new phone; but by the time I called, my mind was made up.
A few years back, I switched from Sprint to Verizon because I was sick of the dropped calls, calls that failed to complete, and the abysmal customer service from nitwits such as yourself. My parting conversation with the Sprint "customer retention specialist" could be paraphrased thusly (the actual call lasted about 45 minutes):
Me: I'd like to cancel my service.
Sprint: You don't really want to cancel your service.
Me: Yes, I do. Your coverage is insufficient, you drop my calls, and my Sprint phone won't even work in my home.
Sprint: We'll give you a new phone.
Me: I don't want a new phone. I've already signed up with Verizon, so there's little point in continuing this conversation.
Sprint: But sir, I can assure you that Sprint has the best coverage of any carrier in Vermont.
Me: First of all, I live in Virginia, not Vermont. Secondly, I was just in Vermont, and Sprint has zero coverage there. It's not even on your map. (this was a few years ago, remember)
Sprint: Well, are you speaking on your wireless phone right now?
Me: Yes, why?
Sprint: You sound just fine to me.
Me: I'm calling you from my Verizon phone. I couldn't connect to customer service on my sprint phone, and anyway, I didn't want to drop the call.
Sprint: I'll cancel your service for you.
I don't know where the wireless carriers find people like you, but as a public service message to all the residents of Virginia and Vermont, let me help you and your kind out. VA is Virginia. VT is Vermont. Oh, and also:
I would tell the customer that the Nokia had better reception (it does, proven by internal company memos I saw), was more durable (it was, we rarely had any in the return bins, and I had a whole folders' worth of anecdotes about Nokias surviving), and was the phone I recommended to anyone who cared about features and substance over style (it was and still is).
Hopefully you can understand the customer's total lack of trust in your knowledge of cellphones. Look at it from our point of view. We've been dealing with wireless carriers' representatives for years now and we know what caliber of people we're dealing with. If you tried to tell me what day it was, I'd still verify the information by looking at my watch. That's how much I trust your knowledge.
Can you blame us? The Sprint guy lied right to my face by stating as fact that Sprint had the best coverage (or any coverage for that matter) in the state of Vermont. We've all had experiences like that. That's why we don't listen to you. If you were to recommend a phone to me, I'd just assume you're getting a bonus for selling that phone and disregard your recommendation. It's not materialism. It's just the fact that you would lie to my face in order to get a $3.29 commission.
No, but if you've been convicted twice of raping women at the office after hours and then you proceed to rape a woman at your current employer after hours, then yes, your employer would very likely get sued for hiring you, and yes, they would very likely lose.
That's not why I pull credit. I'm a landlord, and as such, many of my applicants have imperfect credit. If they had better credit, they'd own a house, not rent one.
I just want to know if the applicant has been honest with me. It's a lot easier to lie on an application than on your credit report. I don't even factor in the score. It's the content I care about.
If someone tells me he went through a rough financial time and his credit report stinks, but he's paid everything on time for 12 months, I want to see that on the credit report. If it's true, his score could be 550, but I'd take him. If, on the other hand, he's got lates and no-pays from last month, he's rejected for lying to me.
So in a sense, I guess it's a judge of character. But not a judge of financial character. Moral character.
If you've managed to rack up "several arrests" between the ages of 18 and 24 (juvenile convictions are not public record) and one messy, credit ruining divorce by age 24, you've got a lot of nerve even asking to explain yourself.
Clean yourself up and then try again in a few years. Shesh.
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Seriously, man, you have no right to complain. I bet you'd give me your SSN in exchange for a crackerjack prize.
Regarding cheeseburgers and shrimp, the prohibition against eating shrimp is indeed found in Leviticus, and also appears in Deuteronomy.
The prohibition against eating cheeseburgers appears nowhere in the written Torah, but it is derived from a passage that appears in Exodus (twice) and again in Deuteronomy, but not Leviticus. That passage prohibits boiling a baby goat in his mother's milk, but not cheeseburgers per se. To get to the prohibition against eating meat and dairy together, one needs to look to the Oral Torah, where this "baby goat" passage is explained to mean not eating meat and dairy together.
In other words, Moses issued it about 1500 years before Jesus lived. Hell, even Confucius said it a half century before Jesus lived.
But don't let the facts stop you from taking full credit. And yes I do mean facts in the scientific sense. There are copies of the Torah that are carbon dated to before Jesus lived. Believe what you want about the origins of the Torah. The fact still remains that if Jesus ever uttered those words, he was merely quoting Torah.
That used to be the case, but the rules have changed. You can now bring onboard liquids that were purchased after security.
Use MySQL. There is nothing wrong with it for your purposes.
Yes, postgres is better, but you don't need it now. You'll know when you do and you can take the time to learn it at that point. Postgres is harder to learn, and you won't benefit from the areas it beats MySQL in. Learning postgres is a waste of time for you right now. Wait 'till you need it.
I recommend not letting whiny slashdot posters make your technology choices for you.
If you keep reading more and more books, you'll never actually create anything. I say pick your simplest web project and take a stab at it using whatever technology you think you can pull it off in. You'll learn a lot from the experience, and then you can decide if you want to learn a whole new language.
If you listen to slashdot, you're going to be using Ruby on Rails, Postgresql, and no <table> tags. If you did that would you be using superior technology? Yes, you would be. But by the time you learn RoR (and OOAD and ActiveRecord and MVC and...) and Postgresql, you could have implemented 3 web projects in PHP/MySQL.
I'd advise you to use PHP/MySQL until they no longer meet your needs. Then, learn something else.
It sounds like you have no staging environment for QA. Fix that problem, and the issue of who deploys the code will become moot.
Put another way: your problem isn't who is actually running the deployment script. Your problem is that the deployment script is wrong to begin with. It doesn't matter if Dev runs it, an admin runs it, or the President and CEO of the company runs it when it's wrong.
The two letters that are missing from your shop are 'Q' and 'A'. Fix your QA, and it don't matter who deploys the code.
I didn't see MySQL in any enterprise project I've ever done. It's all Oracle or DB2. But MySQL has cornered the "I've got some data that I need to put somewhere and eventually get it back" market, and for good reason: MySQL makes it so simple.
A complete database novice can go from zero to "I've got data in my database that I can get back by saying SELECT blah FROM blah WHERE blah" in under an hour. With PostgreSQL, a novice could spend an hour trying to figure out what the heck template1 is.
The vast majority of database applications just need to do simple CRUD. Why should anyone bother with the learning curve of Postgres? But I think you already know the answer: they don't.
So you link to this Dean Hunt guy on the front page of slashdot, further increasing his page rank.
A nice, swift kick-to-the-nuts to the business responsible for this frivolous lawsuit.
Don't confuse "lacking health insurance" with "lacking health care". Ask any ER Doc what they do with people who arrive at the ER without insurance. I'll give you a hint: The answer is not "kick them to the curb 'cuz they can't pay." Source? Driving is hazardous. But US roads are relatively safe compared with other parts of the world. China actually has the highest traffic fatality rate in the world. Yeah, right. Every train accident is big news. And you're going to convince me that there are 960 per day which works out to 350,400 per year? I'm not going to even google that one. You're out of your mind. Go to state school. My college tuition was about $5,000 per year. I'd like to think my first born is worth more than that. In fact, I'd place a much higher value on both my arm and my leg, never mind the value I'd place on my first born child.And, actually, 37 million Americans live in poverty by the government's definition. It's 12%, not 12 million. But yet we don't have 37 million people starve to death each year. I'm going to suggest to you that real poverty, such that you'd find in the third world, and American "poverty", do not resemble each other much.
Clearly the America that you are living in differs greatly from the America that the rest of America is living in.
If 60% of the country wants government-run healthcare, how come Senator Clinton isn't making that the center of her platform? I mean, last I checked, if you get 60% of the vote, you win an election.
If only 39% of the country favors outlawing abortion, how come Republicans, who are openly in favor of outlawing it seem to keep winning elections? You'd think those 53% pro-choice constituencies would tell those Republican candidates to go stuff it. Meanwhile, we've got South Dakota outlawing all abortion in all circumstances. Where are those 53%?
The whole 57% environment at the expense of their pocketbook. That's just rich. I'd love to see the questions that led to that conclusion. Voters have been voting their pocketbooks since the history of voting.
The 60% favor withdrawal from Iraq in 6 months. I think everyone would like to see us out of there in 6 months, but I doubt 60% of the country wants us out of there even if it means an Iraqi civil war that would drive up gas prices, produce a hardline dictator like they have in Iran, and make Iraq into the Jihad terrorist center of the world. See how it's all in how you frame the question?
At any rate, that's why I think your numbers are distortions of reality. They just don't seem to play out on election day.
To be fair, most ORM tools prefer than your object model resemble your relational model. Take Hibernate, for instance. Sure it has the flexibility to reconcile nearly all reasonable differences between the two models, but you have to admit the path of least resistance is to have the two models resemble each other as much as possible.
But I agree that ActiveRecord takes it a step further, with the whole singular/plural on the table names, etc. From what I've read, it does seem to get pretty upset if you don't follow convention. Much more so than your Hibernates and Toplinks of the world. And, like you say, it doesn't work so well for existing databases.
I just clicked on your m-w link above and there were no popups. Perhaps you have a spyware or virus issue?
What's wrong with ActiveRecord?
Summary: Let RoR generate your pages and let Apache serve them once they're cached. That will make your site much faster.
On the other hand, let's say you are building a web-based application that needs to access multiple non-SQL legacy systems with distributed transactions. With RoR, you are dead in the water. You need something like JTA or MTS from J2EE or
RoR is meant to be the 90% solution for web applications. It's for the type of application where you have a web server that access a SQL database server. For the other 10% of applications, you need to use something else. But nothing in your requirements list sounded like something RoR couldn't handle.
I mean, really. Java classpath issues are so 1999.
I've been a VZW customer ever since and would never even consider Sprint. But had Sprint given me a new phone, I probably would have stayed with them since a new phone probably would have solved my network issues. When I called to cancel, they did offer me a new phone; but by the time I called, my mind was made up.
A few years back, I switched from Sprint to Verizon because I was sick of the dropped calls, calls that failed to complete, and the abysmal customer service from nitwits such as yourself. My parting conversation with the Sprint "customer retention specialist" could be paraphrased thusly (the actual call lasted about 45 minutes):
I don't know where the wireless carriers find people like you, but as a public service message to all the residents of Virginia and Vermont, let me help you and your kind out. VA is Virginia. VT is Vermont. Oh, and also: Hopefully you can understand the customer's total lack of trust in your knowledge of cellphones. Look at it from our point of view. We've been dealing with wireless carriers' representatives for years now and we know what caliber of people we're dealing with. If you tried to tell me what day it was, I'd still verify the information by looking at my watch. That's how much I trust your knowledge.Can you blame us? The Sprint guy lied right to my face by stating as fact that Sprint had the best coverage (or any coverage for that matter) in the state of Vermont. We've all had experiences like that. That's why we don't listen to you. If you were to recommend a phone to me, I'd just assume you're getting a bonus for selling that phone and disregard your recommendation. It's not materialism. It's just the fact that you would lie to my face in order to get a $3.29 commission.
She may not have been a blonde, but I'd say Nina Reiser was an attractive lady.
No, but if you've been convicted twice of raping women at the office after hours and then you proceed to rape a woman at your current employer after hours, then yes, your employer would very likely get sued for hiring you, and yes, they would very likely lose.
I just want to know if the applicant has been honest with me. It's a lot easier to lie on an application than on your credit report. I don't even factor in the score. It's the content I care about.
If someone tells me he went through a rough financial time and his credit report stinks, but he's paid everything on time for 12 months, I want to see that on the credit report. If it's true, his score could be 550, but I'd take him. If, on the other hand, he's got lates and no-pays from last month, he's rejected for lying to me.
So in a sense, I guess it's a judge of character. But not a judge of financial character. Moral character.
Clean yourself up and then try again in a few years. Shesh.