There is no way to know and it's a moot point. Presumably they attacked the systems while they were live, so the information would have been decrypted anyway in order for the database system to access it. There is also the inside job scenario that someone outlined above.
Encryption doesn't really matter in this type of break in, it's more for "oh shit I left my hard drive and laptop in an airport" type of scenarios.
This has been asked before, but... where's the Linux version? And will we need a liquid cooled Phenom x4 processor to render the Adobe video in full screen?
If the dudes from Gnash were smart they would get on RTMP and release their version of the "hulu player". You can already run youtube videos outside of your browser.
Since the EU is very "democratic" (meaning the -mostly appointed- ministers of foreign affairs of the EU countries make the real decisions*), Sweden has a choice : pass the law, or leave the EU (meaning switching away from the euro, no more free trade,...)
Would be tough for them to stop using the euro since Sweden uses the Krona.
One would think there is a difference between a tool used to circumvent copyright, and a tool that fails to enforce the copyright rules.
I fail to see a functional difference
For example, if a DVD player fails to implement a region code, is that culpable under the DMCA? Or if a FOSS PDF reader does not have the code that checks for unprintable documents, a DMCA violation?
Yes and yes. Or if a DVD player fails to honor the "no skip" flag for movie trailers.
I'm trying to get my head around this. If a specification demands certain restrictions, and those are not implemented, then the implementations can be taken down under the DMCA...
Correct. In fact, this is the DMCA's sole purpose in life.
It's not copyright law, it's the anti-circumvention provision. The reference RTMP implements various restrictions that the content provider can specify, for instance, marking it as streaming only.
Presumably there could still be some open rtmp implemenations that don't allow you to download streaming only content. If that's true, then it's possible that Adobe will make good on their promise to open the protocol to other projects like gnash. As long they make it more than trival to download streaming only content, they are in the clear.
IANAL, and I still find this turn of events disgusting and the DMCA despicable.
"My internet is down", has to be my top pet peeve. The Internet doesn't soley belong to you, and I can assure you the general Internet is up. I'm playing a game of StarCraft right now over the Internet, as a matter of fact.
I'd much prefer, "my connection is down", but people rarely say that.
I wish I had mod points for you and the AC above. I actually have the reverse problem. It bothers me that it's considered "disk I/O" when it's essentially storage (memory) in the Von Neumann architecture.
There are plenty of ways to hack all OSs. Maybe a generic underhardened Windows install has more know ways...but how would one even quantify what is know and not know.
When getting attacked by the NSA, I'd prefer to use something that they developed to stem such an attack. And I don't want to hear, "well they developed it, so they probably have a backdoor." The many eyes argument definitely applies, since patches from the NSA would undoubtedly come under much more scrutiny. Espeically since this has yet to be proven for other operating systems.
Anyway, the winning team was using Fedora 8, which has SELinux on by default.
Even if you're only focusing on automated buying and selling, those algorithms were still programmed by humans with their own subjective approaches and underlying premises.
Even these humans with their subjective approaches sometimes create stock prices that follow Benford's law. Presumably analysits already use information like this to pick apart a certian stock price from a set of stocks, or to pick apart a stock's history. It is these anamolies that are interesting.
What they found is that even some sets that do not strictly follow the first version of Benford's law (such as primes) do follow another more generalized version of Benford's law. If it could be shown that stock prices follow this version of the law, it could have wide reaching implications.
As long as Apple doesn't take money to subsidize the device, they can work it out so that the device accepts any SIM card. Then they can get service from any provider that they choose, excepting Verizon.
Ah, my mistake. Even so, though I don't know about Steam, this is not possible in current iTunes (unless there is a delete_users_music() function I don't know about)
Lala has filed for a patent on moving DRM from a file wrapper, like Windows Media and FairPlay, to the server... Lala describes an invention that allows only authorized devices (so far there are none)...
Can someone tell me what the difference is here? From what I can tell this is just enabling streaming of the "wrapped" files (wrapped with proprietary Lala wrapping technology of course). Unless I'm misunderstanding completely, there will still need to be a Lala client unwrapping the data before playing, like an encrypted hulu. Characterizing this as moving "DRM to the server" seems incorrect, since the encryption always needs to go all the way to the device to be effective.
The reason that the labels want this so much is that they can take over Lala and control the wrapping technology, where it currently resides with Apple (mostly) and to a smaller degree MS, Real, etc. It also allows them to sell to a much broader variety of devices since there is no requirement to "unencrypt, then reencrypt" for each device (as currently happens when you move a song from itunes to ipod for example). I wonder how they're going to get device and software manufacturers on board, seeing as how they're basically asking them to relinquish control of a very powerful and profitable resource.
It would be interesting to see if the "approved devices" are required to have TPM modules. Obviously it is trivial to crack without it. This could be advantageous to crackers as well, since they can rely on the Lala servers to transcode the content for them.
Wall Street Fat Cat: All your base are belong to Uncle Sam
Joe Public: Oh, God, not again.
Uncle Sam: Yes that's right, all your base are belong to me.
Wall Street Fat Cat (to Uncle Sam): That's right! and all your base are belong to us!!!
Joe Public: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These are two computer companies trying to make the most of it in tough economic times. They have an obligation with their shareholders to try to make money. Goodwill in the community frankly doesn't matter.
Am I the only person left on earth that like and often prefers to read things printed on dead trees?
I prefer it as well, and I subscribe to the New York Times, but I still believe he answered the question accurately. The new digital readers can't save the news industry.
I still wind up reading stories on the website anyway whenever it's linked from/.
That and for a newspaper, and granted these days I only get the Sunday paper, but, I like it for the coupons I can clip. I like to take out the store ads for BB and other places, take them with me when I go shopping.
Then you admit that in times past you bought a paper, but now that you have a computer you don't bother?
Net Neutrality has absolutely everything to do with content. ISPs these days provide these so called "tripple play" bundles that include TV, phone, and Internet access. If an ISP offers me internet access, but limits VoIP to a 2kbps connection, I won't be able to use Skype or a SIP provider. Thus the ISP's phone offering will suddenly become more attractive. Likewise if they limit video downloads with a certain transfer rate, I will want to use their Video on Demand service instead of Netflix, or I will need a cable subscription to be able to watch the Daily Show even though I have an internet connection with access to Hulu and comedycentral.com.
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There is no way to know and it's a moot point. Presumably they attacked the systems while they were live, so the information would have been decrypted anyway in order for the database system to access it. There is also the inside job scenario that someone outlined above.
Encryption doesn't really matter in this type of break in, it's more for "oh shit I left my hard drive and laptop in an airport" type of scenarios.
that's like having a convoy that's well protected, then having that same convoy deliver without any security detail.
Repeat after me, "The internet is not a big truck, it is a series of tubes"
I can't believe it's 5 hours and no one has yet made this joke...
This has been asked before, but... where's the Linux version? And will we need a liquid cooled Phenom x4 processor to render the Adobe video in full screen?
If the dudes from Gnash were smart they would get on RTMP and release their version of the "hulu player". You can already run youtube videos outside of your browser.
Since the EU is very "democratic" (meaning the -mostly appointed- ministers of foreign affairs of the EU countries make the real decisions*), Sweden has a choice : pass the law, or leave the EU (meaning switching away from the euro, no more free trade, ...)
Would be tough for them to stop using the euro since Sweden uses the Krona.
One would think there is a difference between a tool used to circumvent copyright, and a tool that fails to enforce the copyright rules.
I fail to see a functional difference
For example, if a DVD player fails to implement a region code, is that culpable under the DMCA? Or if a FOSS PDF reader does not have the code that checks for unprintable documents, a DMCA violation?
Yes and yes. Or if a DVD player fails to honor the "no skip" flag for movie trailers.
I'm trying to get my head around this. If a specification demands certain restrictions, and those are not implemented, then the implementations can be taken down under the DMCA...
Correct. In fact, this is the DMCA's sole purpose in life.
It's not copyright law, it's the anti-circumvention provision. The reference RTMP implements various restrictions that the content provider can specify, for instance, marking it as streaming only.
Presumably there could still be some open rtmp implemenations that don't allow you to download streaming only content. If that's true, then it's possible that Adobe will make good on their promise to open the protocol to other projects like gnash. As long they make it more than trival to download streaming only content, they are in the clear.
IANAL, and I still find this turn of events disgusting and the DMCA despicable.
awesome, good find.
sf.net may have taken it down, but the other sites are still up and running. Here are some download links:
get-flash-videos
index of rtpdump-1.3a, including source rpms
download page for getiplayer
linux/unix tarball
"My internet is down", has to be my top pet peeve. The Internet doesn't soley belong to you, and I can assure you the general Internet is up. I'm playing a game of StarCraft right now over the Internet, as a matter of fact.
I'd much prefer, "my connection is down", but people rarely say that.
I wish I had mod points for you and the AC above. I actually have the reverse problem. It bothers me that it's considered "disk I/O" when it's essentially storage (memory) in the Von Neumann architecture.
$ cat /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event0: Permission denied
cat:
Wonder what he was talking about?
Seems like he's using an exception that proves the rule.
There are plenty of ways to hack all OSs. Maybe a generic underhardened Windows install has more know ways...but how would one even quantify what is know and not know.
When getting attacked by the NSA, I'd prefer to use something that they developed to stem such an attack. And I don't want to hear, "well they developed it, so they probably have a backdoor." The many eyes argument definitely applies, since patches from the NSA would undoubtedly come under much more scrutiny. Espeically since this has yet to be proven for other operating systems.
Anyway, the winning team was using Fedora 8, which has SELinux on by default.
Even if you're only focusing on automated buying and selling, those algorithms were still programmed by humans with their own subjective approaches and underlying premises.
Even these humans with their subjective approaches sometimes create stock prices that follow Benford's law. Presumably analysits already use information like this to pick apart a certian stock price from a set of stocks, or to pick apart a stock's history. It is these anamolies that are interesting.
What they found is that even some sets that do not strictly follow the first version of Benford's law (such as primes) do follow another more generalized version of Benford's law. If it could be shown that stock prices follow this version of the law, it could have wide reaching implications.
As long as Apple doesn't take money to subsidize the device, they can work it out so that the device accepts any SIM card. Then they can get service from any provider that they choose, excepting Verizon.
Ah, my mistake. Even so, though I don't know about Steam, this is not possible in current iTunes (unless there is a delete_users_music() function I don't know about)
You can currently play any *.m4a file already on your iPod or via iTunes on your computer. If Apple goes bankrupt, you can still do this.
If Lala goes bankrupt, I can no longer access the server that was hosting the library of tunes I purchased.
Lala has filed for a patent on moving DRM from a file wrapper, like Windows Media and FairPlay, to the server... Lala describes an invention that allows only authorized devices (so far there are none)...
Can someone tell me what the difference is here? From what I can tell this is just enabling streaming of the "wrapped" files (wrapped with proprietary Lala wrapping technology of course). Unless I'm misunderstanding completely, there will still need to be a Lala client unwrapping the data before playing, like an encrypted hulu. Characterizing this as moving "DRM to the server" seems incorrect, since the encryption always needs to go all the way to the device to be effective.
The reason that the labels want this so much is that they can take over Lala and control the wrapping technology, where it currently resides with Apple (mostly) and to a smaller degree MS, Real, etc. It also allows them to sell to a much broader variety of devices since there is no requirement to "unencrypt, then reencrypt" for each device (as currently happens when you move a song from itunes to ipod for example). I wonder how they're going to get device and software manufacturers on board, seeing as how they're basically asking them to relinquish control of a very powerful and profitable resource.
It would be interesting to see if the "approved devices" are required to have TPM modules. Obviously it is trivial to crack without it. This could be advantageous to crackers as well, since they can rely on the Lala servers to transcode the content for them.
I doubt that they will make a "Apple iWii"
Not to be confused with the ewi .
Wall Street Fat Cat: All your base are belong to Uncle Sam
Joe Public: Oh, God, not again.
Uncle Sam: Yes that's right, all your base are belong to me.
Wall Street Fat Cat (to Uncle Sam): That's right! and all your base are belong to us!!! Joe Public: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These are two computer companies trying to make the most of it in tough economic times. They have an obligation with their shareholders to try to make money. Goodwill in the community frankly doesn't matter.
Am I the only person left on earth that like and often prefers to read things printed on dead trees?
I prefer it as well, and I subscribe to the New York Times, but I still believe he answered the question accurately. The new digital readers can't save the news industry.
/.
I still wind up reading stories on the website anyway whenever it's linked from
That and for a newspaper, and granted these days I only get the Sunday paper, but, I like it for the coupons I can clip. I like to take out the store ads for BB and other places, take them with me when I go shopping.
Then you admit that in times past you bought a paper, but now that you have a computer you don't bother?
You're making GP's case for him.
So I assume that you refer to the news media as the news mediums?
Net Neutrality has absolutely everything to do with content. ISPs these days provide these so called "tripple play" bundles that include TV, phone, and Internet access. If an ISP offers me internet access, but limits VoIP to a 2kbps connection, I won't be able to use Skype or a SIP provider. Thus the ISP's phone offering will suddenly become more attractive. Likewise if they limit video downloads with a certain transfer rate, I will want to use their Video on Demand service instead of Netflix, or I will need a cable subscription to be able to watch the Daily Show even though I have an internet connection with access to Hulu and comedycentral.com.
(translation: Internet people would be heard for the first time)
And considering the types of subcultures the Internet puts out (ahem: 4chan) I'm not sure that's a good thing.