Naw, -1 Strange Aussie Word Us Americans Can't Be Bothered To Look Up Or Understand would be a better mod for it.
And it's the media man, you know, the ones who mod Jack Thompson +100,000 Insightful/Interesting/Genius when he manages to find a link between the VA shooting and Video Games before the killer's identity is released...what do you expect?
I'd be willing to bet a good quantity of imaginary dollars that the number of Mobile Phones, Wiis and other gadgets using Opera is far smaller than the number of computers using Firefox. And really even if it's not Opera is not one of the top 2 competitors, and with those mobile phones/Wiis coming with it pre-installed (sounds like another browser considered by some superior to Firefox due to higher numbers...just saying) that means the number of people who purposefully go out to get Opera is far smaller than FF. Say what you want about FF but it is the biggest non-IE, perhaps because of media coverage but still the biggest. (Why do I see a FF bloatware joke coming?)
I honestly don't see what your comments have to do with this discussion. I'm not really surprised you were modded insightful, as insulting the US is one of the new cool things around/. but this is a single corporation making a decision about not allowing a single site due to violations of what it deems acceptable use, nothing to do with the government far as I can see...
Hmm...seems more like a Truck to me...I mean, you get in and may or may not come out...reminds of hitchhiking and it's even dependant on what kind of effects you have on you!
Have you ever been to a public school? Pretty believable to me, I know many kids who got in-school suspensions for things like this, and that was before Columbine. Maybe you got lucky and found the non-crazy schools but if so you're the exception:P
I'm afraid I have to agree. It's not like this is something out of left field, I for one was expecting something like this to happen. I'm honestly surprised it took this long after the VT shooting for this to happen, I was expecting a wave the next day or something. With the media playing up his 'disturbing' writing, which is really no more disturbing than many Hollywood thrillers, and blaming it for his problems it's understandable that another student's 'disturbing' writing would lead to something like this.
Stuff like this will always happen after a tragedy until people realize that reality is not digital, no single thing can ever be pointed to as a blame or conclusive evidence that something bad is going to happen. Blaming video games, movies, rock and roll, Harry Potter, or 'disturbing' writing is pointless, none of that ever made anyone who they are or caused anything on it's own.
...Have you been living in a cave? Your arguments would be valid...if the RIAA was only suing pirates. Since they're suing people who can't possibly have copyrighted or it would be absurd to say they've pirated anything ever they don't deserve any right to make their job any easier. If the RIAA was a good company who legally went after those who caused it damages and didn't use scare tactics, questionable legality, heavy lobbying, and attempts to get outright illegal things (e.g. pretexting) made legal for them then you'd be valid.
And whose to say that getyourfreewarez.com isn't a joke sight? Or webcomic? By your argument I could tell whatever ISP hosts/. that it's a repository of pirated stuff and they'd be obliged to check it out or just shut it down. Doesn't sound too bad, until you consider how many notices they could be receiving every day. Hey, that would be a new way to do DOS attacks wouldn't it? Send a couple thousand e-mails to the ISP instead of the server and wait for them to pull the plug.
The RIAA is a dirty fighting company who uses scare tactics and outright extortion to put an end to a business which costs them almost nothing and deserve no more aid from our justice system thank you very much.
Hmm...something tells me that an Editor saw this, read "neutrality of the network" and modded it insightful without reading the rest of the post. I wonder if this'll work for me...uh...In Sov...no, wait...Think of a Beo...now, that's not it...ah! The RIAA isn't that nice! There, that should get an Insightful...
I think what he's trying to say is more like if you can't get the most updated information then why use Wikipedia at all? And he's right, there's no real point to Wikipedia (beyond a large volume of data) compared to other encyclopedias if you don't access it online.
Hmm...something tells me those coffees you claim to have had didn't just have caffeine in them...
And what you should be doing is treating Good and Evil as a spectrum, with Evil's 151,000,000 marking the low bound, all values near that are Evil with the most evil ones being the closest to that number and the ones closer to Good's number being good.
By that reasoning Google is 384,000,000 from Good and 615,000,000 from Evil, so still Good but getting closer to Evil it seems.
Lvl 30 Finder with max Roadblocking, Alerting and a +10 Standing with police for sale, 10,000 dollars and you too can have a maxed out character!
As for why it's being called a game the article itself says that "If it's a project that sounds worthy, or that there are cops involved, or that you have to hand over personal data, people aren't interested. But if we let them use an avatar, they're ok with that." The Web site adds, "Participants can see their own input... achieving success in finding lost community members, and [it will] change the nature of play, and the sense of responsibility it entails." Sounds to me like they're just trying to pick up on some supposed game hype that exists so that more kids can be rescued or something. I'm not gonna be the one to make the obligatory statement though...
Haha! Didn't even notice that, there's a slight chance CNN used a fake name but if they didn't that's a laugh worthy sentence right there. Perhaps we should be more worried about people giving their name to CNN?
Last name isn't exactly a hard to acquire piece of information. For example a large number of schools publish the first and last names of their honor students, some with pictures (and I don't mean yearbooks, I mean newspapers).
I don't mention my last name when discussing something online, and my first only comes out after I've known someone for at least a year, but I don't doubt these pieces of information would be hard to acquire for someone who really wanted them...
I would bet that the percent of teens who would reveal the same information in another medium, a phone call, someone asking for a friend's name/address etc. would be similar, by which I mean it's likely that that 2% would reveal the information whether or not they had the internet. Sure, the internet makes it a little easier to find such information, but I highly doubt it actually makes anyone more or less likely to reveal information.
Back to reality an IT job does require time to be on call at all time. It's really a cut and dry case, servers/other important technology can break at any time and so people have to be on call to fix it at all time. It's much like power/water services, if your power goes out and you call the company (cell phone, before anyone complains about my analogy) you'd expect them to have someone ready to come out even if it was after normal hours wouldn't you? Same deal for IT.
The on-call constraint isn't arbitrary and so you, in essence, wasted a perfectly good analogy making a point that's functionally useless. You are correct that IF on-call was an arbitrary constraint it should be removed and your analogy is nice but it's not arbitrary and so the IF statement may as well be If(false) consider removing the constraint.
Right...cause you know, nuclear accidents happen all the time. Why should we trust these Union people with such an incredibly dangerous piece of technology. I mean, there was Three Mile Island...which was almost bad! And, uh...Chernoble...which wasn't actually Union people but something like that...and...oh wait...nothing else.
Yeah, real great argument there. Those union people must be so bad at their jobs how can we trust them with anymore? Especially since it's not like they get specialized training or certification to do that job. Of course the reactors are run by anyone the Union wants to run them, it's not like the government has a say!/sarcasm off
Has ANYTHING Nuclear related not taken flak from green groups? I'm not surprised at all that they're objecting, I mean this is a perfectly clean form of electricity which wouldn't pollute anything and, in the event that it sank, would only deposit nuclear materials back where they came from, the Earth's Crust. Oh sorry, my anti-green group side is showing...
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I liked most of it but I must object to one statement.
"My personal philosophy is to make the entertainment experience of videogames available to everyone. I want to see the audience of people who play videogames, of any type, on any device, include practically anyone on the planet."
If that was truely his guiding principle the PS3 would not cost more than 50% (Min) of gamers can afford. It's also pretty much an exact copy of Nintendo's goal. Something tells me this principle is relatively new...say it began about when the 4 millianth Wii sold...
Only on/. would a comment about not sharing a simple piece of information that can be changed at any time with someone you have no good reason to be keeping secrets from be modded insightful.
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Naw, -1 Strange Aussie Word Us Americans Can't Be Bothered To Look Up Or Understand would be a better mod for it.
And it's the media man, you know, the ones who mod Jack Thompson +100,000 Insightful/Interesting/Genius when he manages to find a link between the VA shooting and Video Games before the killer's identity is released...what do you expect?
I'd be willing to bet a good quantity of imaginary dollars that the number of Mobile Phones, Wiis and other gadgets using Opera is far smaller than the number of computers using Firefox. And really even if it's not Opera is not one of the top 2 competitors, and with those mobile phones/Wiis coming with it pre-installed (sounds like another browser considered by some superior to Firefox due to higher numbers...just saying) that means the number of people who purposefully go out to get Opera is far smaller than FF. Say what you want about FF but it is the biggest non-IE, perhaps because of media coverage but still the biggest. (Why do I see a FF bloatware joke coming?)
Watch out though, only the area behind the teachers desk is a buy zone.
I honestly don't see what your comments have to do with this discussion. I'm not really surprised you were modded insightful, as insulting the US is one of the new cool things around /. but this is a single corporation making a decision about not allowing a single site due to violations of what it deems acceptable use, nothing to do with the government far as I can see...
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"Invade the Sun!"
Hmm...seems more like a Truck to me...I mean, you get in and may or may not come out...reminds of hitchhiking and it's even dependant on what kind of effects you have on you!
Have you ever been to a public school? Pretty believable to me, I know many kids who got in-school suspensions for things like this, and that was before Columbine. Maybe you got lucky and found the non-crazy schools but if so you're the exception :P
I'm afraid I have to agree. It's not like this is something out of left field, I for one was expecting something like this to happen. I'm honestly surprised it took this long after the VT shooting for this to happen, I was expecting a wave the next day or something. With the media playing up his 'disturbing' writing, which is really no more disturbing than many Hollywood thrillers, and blaming it for his problems it's understandable that another student's 'disturbing' writing would lead to something like this.
Stuff like this will always happen after a tragedy until people realize that reality is not digital, no single thing can ever be pointed to as a blame or conclusive evidence that something bad is going to happen. Blaming video games, movies, rock and roll, Harry Potter, or 'disturbing' writing is pointless, none of that ever made anyone who they are or caused anything on it's own.
...Have you been living in a cave? Your arguments would be valid...if the RIAA was only suing pirates. Since they're suing people who can't possibly have copyrighted or it would be absurd to say they've pirated anything ever they don't deserve any right to make their job any easier. If the RIAA was a good company who legally went after those who caused it damages and didn't use scare tactics, questionable legality, heavy lobbying, and attempts to get outright illegal things (e.g. pretexting) made legal for them then you'd be valid.
/. that it's a repository of pirated stuff and they'd be obliged to check it out or just shut it down. Doesn't sound too bad, until you consider how many notices they could be receiving every day. Hey, that would be a new way to do DOS attacks wouldn't it? Send a couple thousand e-mails to the ISP instead of the server and wait for them to pull the plug.
And whose to say that getyourfreewarez.com isn't a joke sight? Or webcomic? By your argument I could tell whatever ISP hosts
The RIAA is a dirty fighting company who uses scare tactics and outright extortion to put an end to a business which costs them almost nothing and deserve no more aid from our justice system thank you very much.
Hmm...something tells me that an Editor saw this, read "neutrality of the network" and modded it insightful without reading the rest of the post. I wonder if this'll work for me...uh...In Sov...no, wait...Think of a Beo...now, that's not it...ah! The RIAA isn't that nice! There, that should get an Insightful...
Ouch...hope you saved...
:P. Have none of the mods seen the Penny Arcade comic?)
(Oh come on, this is the perfect comment
I think what he's trying to say is more like if you can't get the most updated information then why use Wikipedia at all? And he's right, there's no real point to Wikipedia (beyond a large volume of data) compared to other encyclopedias if you don't access it online.
"766,000,000 + 151,000,000 = 55,700,000
766,000,000 + 1,150,000,000 = 341,000,000"
Hmm...something tells me those coffees you claim to have had didn't just have caffeine in them...
And what you should be doing is treating Good and Evil as a spectrum, with Evil's 151,000,000 marking the low bound, all values near that are Evil with the most evil ones being the closest to that number and the ones closer to Good's number being good.
By that reasoning Google is 384,000,000 from Good and 615,000,000 from Evil, so still Good but getting closer to Evil it seems.
Hmm...I can see it now...
Lvl 30 Finder with max Roadblocking, Alerting and a +10 Standing with police for sale, 10,000 dollars and you too can have a maxed out character!
As for why it's being called a game the article itself says that
"If it's a project that sounds worthy, or that there are cops involved, or that you have to hand over personal data, people aren't interested. But if we let them use an avatar, they're ok with that." The Web site adds, "Participants can see their own input... achieving success in finding lost community members, and [it will] change the nature of play, and the sense of responsibility it entails."
Sounds to me like they're just trying to pick up on some supposed game hype that exists so that more kids can be rescued or something. I'm not gonna be the one to make the obligatory statement though...
An interesting assessment, however Tom Clancy beat you too it :P
Haha! Didn't even notice that, there's a slight chance CNN used a fake name but if they didn't that's a laugh worthy sentence right there. Perhaps we should be more worried about people giving their name to CNN?
Nice catch, worth a good laugh.
Last name isn't exactly a hard to acquire piece of information. For example a large number of schools publish the first and last names of their honor students, some with pictures (and I don't mean yearbooks, I mean newspapers).
I don't mention my last name when discussing something online, and my first only comes out after I've known someone for at least a year, but I don't doubt these pieces of information would be hard to acquire for someone who really wanted them...
I would bet that the percent of teens who would reveal the same information in another medium, a phone call, someone asking for a friend's name/address etc. would be similar, by which I mean it's likely that that 2% would reveal the information whether or not they had the internet. Sure, the internet makes it a little easier to find such information, but I highly doubt it actually makes anyone more or less likely to reveal information.
Back to reality an IT job does require time to be on call at all time. It's really a cut and dry case, servers/other important technology can break at any time and so people have to be on call to fix it at all time. It's much like power/water services, if your power goes out and you call the company (cell phone, before anyone complains about my analogy) you'd expect them to have someone ready to come out even if it was after normal hours wouldn't you? Same deal for IT.
The on-call constraint isn't arbitrary and so you, in essence, wasted a perfectly good analogy making a point that's functionally useless. You are correct that IF on-call was an arbitrary constraint it should be removed and your analogy is nice but it's not arbitrary and so the IF statement may as well be If(false) consider removing the constraint.
Right...cause you know, nuclear accidents happen all the time. Why should we trust these Union people with such an incredibly dangerous piece of technology. I mean, there was Three Mile Island...which was almost bad! And, uh...Chernoble...which wasn't actually Union people but something like that...and...oh wait...nothing else.
/sarcasm off
Yeah, real great argument there. Those union people must be so bad at their jobs how can we trust them with anymore? Especially since it's not like they get specialized training or certification to do that job. Of course the reactors are run by anyone the Union wants to run them, it's not like the government has a say!
Has ANYTHING Nuclear related not taken flak from green groups? I'm not surprised at all that they're objecting, I mean this is a perfectly clean form of electricity which wouldn't pollute anything and, in the event that it sank, would only deposit nuclear materials back where they came from, the Earth's Crust. Oh sorry, my anti-green group side is showing...
...just how many iPods were sold to this "Lucrative Corporate Environment" compared to the, by comparison, non-Lucrative Public?
Psh, I could model /. any day of the week.
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I liked most of it but I must object to one statement.
"My personal philosophy is to make the entertainment experience of videogames available to everyone. I want to see the audience of people who play videogames, of any type, on any device, include practically anyone on the planet."
If that was truely his guiding principle the PS3 would not cost more than 50% (Min) of gamers can afford. It's also pretty much an exact copy of Nintendo's goal. Something tells me this principle is relatively new...say it began about when the 4 millianth Wii sold...
Other than that an interesting interview.
Only on /. would a comment about not sharing a simple piece of information that can be changed at any time with someone you have no good reason to be keeping secrets from be modded insightful.