People generally do not pay for things they can get for free.
Bullshit. I see people chugging bottled water all the time in the building I work in, even though there are water fountains. I see people buying boxes of matchbooks. I see people putting money in the collection plate at church. I see people putting money in Salvation Army buckets, and those folks get absolutely NOTHING back for their efforts, except the good feeling you get from helping someone.
Sorry, pretty much everything you cited are things you cannot get for free.
For Example: Bottled water != Fountain water - for a number of reasons, perception of purity, perception of sterility, and convienience of consumption.
For Example: Donation to a charity buys the user the perception of improving the world in some way, you don't get to change the world for free.
Those folks get exactly what they intended to get, and they consider the purchases proper value for the money, or else they make the purchases elsewhere, a new church, or a new chairty, for example.
Actually,you missed the point. His complaint wasn't that you couldn't check for versions, it was that there was no upgrade path for fairly recent handsets running android 1.5, since the vendors are not offering an upgrade. Where as the iPhone modles he cited go back several years and can be upgraded to the current operating system.
It's a lot more of you being blind, than him being a fanboy, dudeski. But this isn't the first time that an Antifanboi has made the mistake of reading what he wanted to read when an Apple product comes up, and it's just as amusing (if not more) as the Apple fanboi blindness, IMHO.
Amazing how time changes things, in the 80's we were snorting snow for breakfast, now we're eating it... I'm not sure that's progress, but maybe I'm just an old man, now.
If some terrorist organisation started using the Coca Cola ribbon, would that make coke evil*?
No, they are already evil(tm) so the terrorists wouldn't _make_ them evil.....
Pepsi, of course, would be a different thing altogether, but they are safe because Gabriel is doing tv ads for them.... LOL
And if we're lucky families in the US, EU, AU and Asian communities will all enact the practice of killing less valuable babies like girls and those with disabilities in hopes of trying again until they get their one alloted good baby. Just like China!
Yes, it's sarcasm.
You know, all the rhetoric doesn't quite obfuscate the basic truth there.
We do need to downsize the population before some natural mechanism kicks in and does it for us. There is an upper limit on how many people this planet can support regardless of the technologies we apply to extending it, and how much of the rest of the biosphere we're willing to sacrific to make it happen.
The question isn't "IF" we need to reverse population growth, it's "HOW". And it's telling that you can only see how population control is a bad thing, rather than look toward solutions that are acceptable.
It doesn't help that Syfy is putting these shows on the worst night (Tuesday). They are trying to compete again "real" shows that people actually want to watch like Glee, CSI, and so on.
Syfy should have kept the original Sci-Fi Friday they've had the last decade. They had built a recognizable brand, and people were willing to turn to Syfy on Friday because none of the other networks were showing anything worthwhile.
Smallville and Supernatural would have kicked their butt in ratings if they'd kept SciFi Fridays, both garner very good ratings from the exact same Demographics as the SyFy channel caters to.
I don't mind that people make companies to make money. I just find it sad that he has to get up and lie about his own motivations. He's attempting to put a positive spin on his motivations when all his recent actions suggest just the opposite.
I don't think that points the original motivation to be a lie, focuses change all the time, he may very well have been motivated differently at first and became motivated by money and evolve into a corporate douchebag over time.
The initial methodology was obfuscation of the media directory, which was easily bypassed by even the most novice of experimental users.
You'll notice that the old media directory was set up not to hinder people's usage of the device, but to constrain file path lengths.
Oh, so the reason they made the directory hidden was related to file-path sizes? WOW! Thank you for clarifying that. I've been under the mistaken impression it was obfuscation for all these years.
And no, I'm not taking either side of the argument for or against lock downs. I was simply pointing out that you were wrong, you were misinformed, and that this is not "new", it has been with us all along.
Again, my point was to contradict the person I was replying to who suggested that all such devices were locked down. I countered with the point that this lock down trend is a completely new thing.
Apples lockdown of iPods have become more difficult to bypass as time has gone by, but it has been their intent and focus to lock the iPods to iTunes since the 1G 5gb card deck unit 7 or 8 years ago. The initial methodology was obfuscation of the media directory, which was easily bypassed by even the most novice of experimental users. But, none-the-less, they did lock down the first and every iPod since, just using more and more sophisticated methodology.
Yeah, but this lockdown thing isn't a new thing. As far back as I can remember we've been dealing with locked software and/or hardware on a variety of devices. The RIM Blackberries and virtually all smart phones have been locked down by the carrier, if not the manufacturer, at least five years. Basically, your idea "that this lock down trend is a completely new thing." is crap, and just because you say it's so, doesn't change history.
I bet he could have had the engineers fit half a dozen in a hollowed out iPad, and snuck them on board his jet, since obviosly the reality distortion field only applies to Apple products, not Ninja throwing stars.
Sure, so how does Skype get through. In fact, how do most apps get around points 2.11-2.13?
2.11 Apps that duplicate apps already in the App Store may be rejected, particularly if there are many of them
2.12 Apps that are not very useful or do not provide any lasting entertainment value may be rejected
2.13 Apps that are primarily marketing materials or advertisements will be rejected
I would say the vast majority of apps in the store fall under these points.
"May be rejected" != "Will be rejected" - that little semantic out means Apple can violate their own acceptance rules at a whim - meaning All apps in the store are currently in compliance.
What this means for online iPhone games is that when someone releases a hack for the jailbroken iPhones, their users can completely ruin the games and legit players cannot do anything.
it also means that a developer can't "bait and switch" by getting an app approved and then adding code that allows the app to do things that would have prevented it from being approved in the first place. So there isn't a "Certainly a need" as the updates to code could go through the app updates system, and the developer can plug those holes in a normal update. Furthermore, the problem you are referring to should reasonably be secured at the server end, anyway, since, as you pointed out, the game can never trust the client software on a jailbroken phone.
I never understood why people willingly buy Macs when you get limited so severely to Apple's choices for you. Granted their computers are visually stunning, but Id rather not have to deal with quicktime, itunes, and no-flash at all, its anti-consumer.
No, I suspect you understand perfectly well why people buy Macs, and simply don't agree with their reasons. For example, you seem to think that Apple severely limits something or other. Whereas the people who buy them don't feel limited at all, They think that the machine (iPad, Mac, music player, phone, whatever) does what they wanted it to do, which is why they keep buying them. My wife owns a Jaguar, it requires Premium gas, and she has no choice in this. But she loves that car, so it does exactly what she wants it too, and, god help me, when it comes time to replace that 12 years old beast, she's gonna want another one.
please, the worst mistake to make in a market is assuming the next big product is going to kill it off.
It'd be more accurate that saying ping is apple's attempt to compete with facebook, because the details of how ping will actually work matter a lot more than just "We made our own social platform".
I agree with you with one correction; The worse mistake in marketing in recent times has been assuming that "Apple isn't relevant to anyone except their fanbois"
What the fuck are you talking about? Music as far back as I can remember has always been a commercial endeavor. From Bach to Chopin to Miley Cyrus. Pop music isn't new. It's just dumber
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Paranoid != wrong. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are NOT out to get you.
People generally do not pay for things they can get for free.
Bullshit. I see people chugging bottled water all the time in the building I work in, even though there are water fountains. I see people buying boxes of matchbooks. I see people putting money in the collection plate at church. I see people putting money in Salvation Army buckets, and those folks get absolutely NOTHING back for their efforts, except the good feeling you get from helping someone.
Sorry, pretty much everything you cited are things you cannot get for free.
Those folks get exactly what they intended to get, and they consider the purchases proper value for the money, or else they make the purchases elsewhere, a new church, or a new chairty, for example.
You are failing to miss the point.
Actually,you missed the point. His complaint wasn't that you couldn't check for versions, it was that there was no upgrade path for fairly recent handsets running android 1.5, since the vendors are not offering an upgrade. Where as the iPhone modles he cited go back several years and can be upgraded to the current operating system. It's a lot more of you being blind, than him being a fanboy, dudeski. But this isn't the first time that an Antifanboi has made the mistake of reading what he wanted to read when an Apple product comes up, and it's just as amusing (if not more) as the Apple fanboi blindness, IMHO.
I, for one, welcome our cloud-based overlords!
You're very late to that party.
Amazing how time changes things, in the 80's we were snorting snow for breakfast, now we're eating it... I'm not sure that's progress, but maybe I'm just an old man, now.
In South Africa the birds hunt YOU!
If some terrorist organisation started using the Coca Cola ribbon, would that make coke evil*?
No, they are already evil(tm) so the terrorists wouldn't _make_ them evil.....
Pepsi, of course, would be a different thing altogether, but they are safe because Gabriel is doing tv ads for them.... LOL
And if we're lucky families in the US, EU, AU and Asian communities will all enact the practice of killing less valuable babies like girls and those with disabilities in hopes of trying again until they get their one alloted good baby. Just like China! Yes, it's sarcasm.
You know, all the rhetoric doesn't quite obfuscate the basic truth there. We do need to downsize the population before some natural mechanism kicks in and does it for us. There is an upper limit on how many people this planet can support regardless of the technologies we apply to extending it, and how much of the rest of the biosphere we're willing to sacrific to make it happen. The question isn't "IF" we need to reverse population growth, it's "HOW". And it's telling that you can only see how population control is a bad thing, rather than look toward solutions that are acceptable.
China's ability, the world's first, to build high-speed tail in high mountain area Time to book a flight to China's mountains.
Nah, the low speed, High quality, Swedish made tail is the way to go.
It doesn't help that Syfy is putting these shows on the worst night (Tuesday). They are trying to compete again "real" shows that people actually want to watch like Glee, CSI, and so on.
Syfy should have kept the original Sci-Fi Friday they've had the last decade. They had built a recognizable brand, and people were willing to turn to Syfy on Friday because none of the other networks were showing anything worthwhile.
Smallville and Supernatural would have kicked their butt in ratings if they'd kept SciFi Fridays, both garner very good ratings from the exact same Demographics as the SyFy channel caters to.
I don't mind that people make companies to make money. I just find it sad that he has to get up and lie about his own motivations. He's attempting to put a positive spin on his motivations when all his recent actions suggest just the opposite.
I don't think that points the original motivation to be a lie, focuses change all the time, he may very well have been motivated differently at first and became motivated by money and evolve into a corporate douchebag over time.
You couldn't get a more biased source.
You must be new here..... You post a summary on Slashdot, you get 30 more biased sources within 30 min.
Why can't people just look for where the smoke and smell of charred human flesh is coming from?
That's just the tourist group from Berlin.
Or the traveling performance artists from India.
You'll notice that the old media directory was set up not to hinder people's usage of the device, but to constrain file path lengths.
Oh, so the reason they made the directory hidden was related to file-path sizes? WOW! Thank you for clarifying that. I've been under the mistaken impression it was obfuscation for all these years. And no, I'm not taking either side of the argument for or against lock downs. I was simply pointing out that you were wrong, you were misinformed, and that this is not "new", it has been with us all along.
Again, my point was to contradict the person I was replying to who suggested that all such devices were locked down. I countered with the point that this lock down trend is a completely new thing.
Apples lockdown of iPods have become more difficult to bypass as time has gone by, but it has been their intent and focus to lock the iPods to iTunes since the 1G 5gb card deck unit 7 or 8 years ago. The initial methodology was obfuscation of the media directory, which was easily bypassed by even the most novice of experimental users. But, none-the-less, they did lock down the first and every iPod since, just using more and more sophisticated methodology. Yeah, but this lockdown thing isn't a new thing. As far back as I can remember we've been dealing with locked software and/or hardware on a variety of devices. The RIM Blackberries and virtually all smart phones have been locked down by the carrier, if not the manufacturer, at least five years. Basically, your idea "that this lock down trend is a completely new thing." is crap, and just because you say it's so, doesn't change history.
.... Only so we have a chance to actually win at a cool video game.
I bet he could have had the engineers fit half a dozen in a hollowed out iPad, and snuck them on board his jet, since obviosly the reality distortion field only applies to Apple products, not Ninja throwing stars.
I saw this same concept demo'd on the TED podcast by an american company over a year ago: http://blog.ted.com/2009/08/25/wireless_electr/
Sure, so how does Skype get through. In fact, how do most apps get around points 2.11-2.13?
2.11 Apps that duplicate apps already in the App Store may be rejected, particularly if there are many of them 2.12 Apps that are not very useful or do not provide any lasting entertainment value may be rejected 2.13 Apps that are primarily marketing materials or advertisements will be rejected
I would say the vast majority of apps in the store fall under these points.
"May be rejected" != "Will be rejected" - that little semantic out means Apple can violate their own acceptance rules at a whim - meaning All apps in the store are currently in compliance.
What this means for online iPhone games is that when someone releases a hack for the jailbroken iPhones, their users can completely ruin the games and legit players cannot do anything.
it also means that a developer can't "bait and switch" by getting an app approved and then adding code that allows the app to do things that would have prevented it from being approved in the first place. So there isn't a "Certainly a need" as the updates to code could go through the app updates system, and the developer can plug those holes in a normal update. Furthermore, the problem you are referring to should reasonably be secured at the server end, anyway, since, as you pointed out, the game can never trust the client software on a jailbroken phone.
I never understood why people willingly buy Macs when you get limited so severely to Apple's choices for you. Granted their computers are visually stunning, but Id rather not have to deal with quicktime, itunes, and no-flash at all, its anti-consumer.
No, I suspect you understand perfectly well why people buy Macs, and simply don't agree with their reasons. For example, you seem to think that Apple severely limits something or other. Whereas the people who buy them don't feel limited at all, They think that the machine (iPad, Mac, music player, phone, whatever) does what they wanted it to do, which is why they keep buying them. My wife owns a Jaguar, it requires Premium gas, and she has no choice in this. But she loves that car, so it does exactly what she wants it too, and, god help me, when it comes time to replace that 12 years old beast, she's gonna want another one.
please, the worst mistake to make in a market is assuming the next big product is going to kill it off.
It'd be more accurate that saying ping is apple's attempt to compete with facebook, because the details of how ping will actually work matter a lot more than just "We made our own social platform".
I agree with you with one correction; The worse mistake in marketing in recent times has been assuming that "Apple isn't relevant to anyone except their fanbois"
but they do believe in sexual harassment, especially if there is a paycheck in it for them and the lawyer....
What the fuck are you talking about? Music as far back as I can remember has always been a commercial endeavor. From Bach to Chopin to Miley Cyrus. Pop music isn't new. It's just dumber
You remember Bach and Chopin?
In Space, No one can hear you shrink.