It should be IT deploying to production period (I'm the Sr. System Admin and deploy all apps to production). Yes we know our own systems and we know the application to an extent. If done right "code monkeys" have done their job and the application passed QA'ed and testing, the application then belongs to IT. In my experience the vast majority of DEV's don't understand System Administration (there are exceptions to the rule of course) and no it's not about us loosing control but boils down to accountability. Just yesterday I had to fix and (try) explain to a dev why they could not deploy the code to a QA box because they kept on getting a CRC error in thier package. Now would you trust a production deployment to that person? What would happen when you have to account for service levels for a customer and the dev's kept scratching their heads trying to figure out what went wrong and then call a system admin into the frey.
"In short, YouTube may have handed the major labels approximately $50M so that the labels would turn a blind eye to the copyright infringements AND go after the competition to cement YouTube's position in the market."
"You mean... like... pay licensing fees? And encourage them to prosecute those who don't?"
You mean... like... pay extortion fees? And encourage them to kill those who don't?
I sold my ATI on craigslist because of the SAD state of the drivers. In simple terms "they are just flat out crap drivers", all my XGL and Compiz problems were related to the ATI drivers. But as soon as I through in my Nvidia card (TI4600) XGL+Compiz has not crashed on me since and every thing is butter smooth. I should of known better to even try an ATI card (it was free) as I have been using Nvidia and Linux for awhile with out any issues for awhile now.
Then explain to them why!!! We need to explain to people why this is and the ramifications of patent law. The more people educated about this the more chance something will be done about it! This goes far and beyond the normal OS flame war! Stop being part of the problem; think things through and help instead of spouting off flamebait.
I'm using Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3 and see it fine. No flash on that page just java, maybe you should install java correctly if you have it installed, or install it if you don't have it installed.
"These are aging industries run by aging men,...."
Dan just does not get it, he can't comprehend that information/content can be free and still make money. Or his greedy ass does understand but wants to get the profit margin up for the shareholders.
From the TFA
Dan G. "So, yeah, we should be protecting our copyright but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be looking for new ways to get that content to people in modern ways -"
then further down he says
"It is ridiculous to believe that you can give product away for free and be more successful. I mean it defies the laws of nature."
and here is the kicker...
"But he is right to the extent that we need to be finding new and different ways to get our content to people,"
God this guy sounds like SCOG lawyers for Pete's sake!!!! Which is Dan, make up your damn melon and quit suing your consumers moron!!!!
Saw this at a trade show this year (see boss I do learn from these things) http://www.lightpointe.com/home.cfm and from what I saw they have the technology and the bandwidth to handle most LAN's today. I did ask the rep if fog, rain, and snow etc... plays a part in the reliability of the connection. He said yes it does but you have to have major conditions (hurricane) for the connection to drop completely. If you go this route I would ask for a demo of it and research more QOS issues.
Even I don't want to see this happen but what the consumer wants and what the shareholders want conflict with each other. It comes down to the golden rule; "Those that have the gold make rules"
So Ubuntu Dapper made some big changes to the linux driver model that were not present in Breezy and required a huge portion of device drivers to be rewritten before they would work? Oh, wait, they didn't, so for the purposes of discussing this article making that comparison is absolutely pointless.
No but SUSE did and I just installed it, nothing needed to be changed at all. Oh wait....Sorry... a full functioning OS with drivers that work is "absolutely pointless"
And yes I would rather flame you at this juncture and spend another whole 5 seconds thinking about your comment and how flawed your logic is again, but then again I'm not intellectually qualified to understand. So in that case I will stop right here and let this post do it's job by talking up some of your highly intellectual time, shill.
Ummmm like your perception of reality is a bit skewed man, take hit off this to get you back to the reality everybody else is in, peace.
No but seriously, I'm on Ubuntu Dapper (Beta OS BTW) and everything worked out of the box! Well I had to change two things and add a modeline in xorg.conf for my monitor, and use automatix. But this is also FOSS software and of course is less reliable than the commercial offerings by microsoft right!!!!
"A senior Microsoft executive told a BBC documentary that people should use commercial software if they're looking for stability."
Yeah they have had 5 years to build a Mac OS X clone that does not work. Great stability there guys keep up the good work Redmond. "Maybe comparing apples and bicycles IS quite as good of an idea as it seems."
PS Why does the words Microsoft Shill come to mind all of sudden?
IMHO parent is 100% correct. I spent 3 days and 5 different shops looking at TV's and the one TV that we kept on coming back to was the Sony SXRD 60" it also supports 1080P (not true 1080p though). The black levels were the best, and the colors were so vivid compared to the rest. The 3 chip LCos is the way to go, if you want the picture quality.
But don't take my word for go out and see it first, then find a deal online, in fact we got ours for $2999 delivered and basic setup (which involved plugging in 3 wires)
Then tell me why my ClamAV is scanning real time as we type? After implementing ClamAV on my mail gateway and work stations, as well Snort for packet inspection looking for adware/spyware/virri my internal network has not seen a virus. I should also note that ClamAV beats out the big boys about 70-80% of the time when updating new virus sig's as well.
Now-a-days I don't think you will find an all inclusive anti-virus solution, all of them one way or another has flaws and will allow an infection to take place, even more so with the new rootkits and virtual machine proofs out now. Your only true anti-virus solution (RIGHT NOW) is running an OS other than a Micro$oft OS and using that gray matter between your ears, most people call it common sense.
type of stuff, mostly for the upper management, but not only computers, we are talking about anything that plugs into the wall. From cell phones to iPods, even as I sat down at my desk this morning I even had one voice mail left by an EX employee who worked as an executive admin wanting to know how to download songs to her iPod knock off. Note: she has been gone now for 9 months and this is the first time I have heard from her. She did make sure to say/ask how I was doing at the end of the voice mail geee how thoughtful!
We are a two person IT shop; My Boss the Director of IT, and myself Sr Sys Admin. I mostly deal with my network and servers and some luser (local user) stuff, while he gets the majority of face time with said lusers (my people skills are lacking, on purpose). The problem I have is the we are both on call 24x7, and well everyone at the company has been bugging us relentlessly for trivial stuff.
Here is an example; I was called by one of the executive admins last night at 11PM asking how to remove stationary from her outlook so she can send personal emails. If your company goes through this, it is what you can expect. Also note: These idiots computers are so bad off with spyware and virii it's just easier and takes less time to wipe the box clean and do a clean install of Ubuntu and tell them it's new version of winblows. Never in my life have I seen computers so hosed in the two years I been here.
I should also note that I saw an earlier post that said
"5. Make sure your resume is posted on every job board."
Well mine is and had 4 interviews this past month, and this time I'm the one doing the interviewing, taking my time to find a company that will not treat it's IT personnel as... Well... as IT whipping boys!
To Sum it up: You will get taken advantage of, and when it goes wrong or perceived something is wrong with these computers you will waste constant personal time to fix them and or hold the lusers hands and try to appease them. Let the "Geek Squad" charge them a couple hundred to take care of them and hose their computer even more.
After reading the story yesterday on/. http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/18/ 0047245 I downloaded the latest Alpha (/. says beta Ubuntu say Alpha) And for being Alpha it is very very stable. I got XGL working in less than 3 mins, all codecs, plugins, and java installed in 10 mins, and runs rings around Fedora Core 5. It's as responsive as my Gentoo install, seems to me anyway.
I'm very very impressed, IMHO Mark and the Ubuntu gang are going places in hurry if they keep this up. So the question that comes to my mind now is, would I install this on my mom's computer for her to use 24/7? My answer is I don't t think I would on this release (flight 6) but I will as soon as the final comes out in June, and that's
"is access to applications and a modicum of control over my PC, applications, and user experience."
You my friend and people like you are the reason why the CTO and myself will do our best to demo this to upper management and executives. Along with cost savings analysis (bye bye Winblows licencing hell), security analysis (bye bye Winblows security hell) and help desk analysis (bye bye wanabe Winblows poweruser hell), etc..
It's not the people who are completely new to computers that give me the hardest time, in fact I enjoy working with them and teaching them. It's the people who think they "Know" / "I'm computer literate" that give me the most headaches. For example; A user pluggin in laptop analog modem to a digital phone port thinking it will some how get access to the internal network, and yet it's IT's fault because they did not get a report sent out on time because of said lack of network connectivity, and they did not bother to tell us in the first place they had a problem to begin with! And yes this is the same person who said "I'm computer literate".
So lets sum it up shall we? You know enough to really hose your OS and don't know enough or are too lazy to fix it yourself. People like you are the #1 reason why thin clients and a centralized server with only access to applications that you have permissions to work with to do your job only, will become a standardized setting in the future.
1. Only two games as far as I can tell from the website will be played; Super Smash Bros. Melee and Halo 2
2. From the FAQ at the site."Why doesn't MLG have tournaments for PC games?"
Major League Gaming is a competitive console gaming league. There are a huge number of other leagues and tournaments for PC games. As such, MLG does not stand to gain much by holding tournaments for PC games. With exception to fighting games, which are historically considered arcade games, competitive console gaming is relatively new, and MLG is a pioneer in that part of the industry. Competitive console gaming is also open to everybody, as it has a lower barrier to entry as compared to competitive PC gaming, in which those who have the funds necessary to purchase the latest hardware can have a rather significant hardware-based advantage over others.
In other words it's going to be joke!
When I start to see Ladders to a playoff for different types of games (FPS, RTS, or ideally a game with a combination of the two, for example Battlefield 2) which encourage cooperative, strategic play with teams. Why not model the game play to be broadcast like the most successful sports programs on tv today? e.g. real football or soccer game. You have a coach/s giving direction and the over all strategy to the game being played (RTS), and the team members executing the strategy given by coach by it's players working as team (FPS). Then to be able to watch, comment, critique and enjoy watching the teams strategy and game play as they face off, again just like a real sports broadcast. Only then do I see something of this caliber take off to become successful, and not watching 15 sec clips of a players game then 20 mins of background side stories about the players
Yes you are 100% correct, but John Doe Public does not know the difference between an online service provider vs Internet service provider. AOL provides their own branded content as well Internet network access. Back in the day this was one of the Major selling points for AOL, but today this type of thought is less prevalent because everyone and their mother now provides some sort of branded content/media. And talking to a couple of AOL users lately their mind STILL is set that AOL is providing content that they feel is worth it.
Will we see AOL disappear in the near future? No
Will we see AOL disappear in the far future? Yes IF: AOL does not change, just like any company to keep up or stay in business they will have change / innovate new products ideas and services, if the company or any company for that matter fails to do so they will die. IBM is great example of how to change and not die.
Sorry if this bit is a little off topic but it's funny about my last statement about change. The DMCA along with software patents discourages/prevents innovation and change, and according to my hypothesis every company that supports the two are shooting themselves in the foot.
-- - -- "Yes, but it starts 'Dear Valuable VIP Customer'. They may as well say 'Please drop your pants and bend over the table by that unnecessarily large hammer action masonry drill'."
Looking at his writing skills you can deduce that "sticking with what he knows" will be impossible due to the total lack of common sense and ignorance he portrays.
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It should be IT deploying to production period (I'm the Sr. System Admin and deploy all apps to production). Yes we know our own systems and we know the application to an extent. If done right "code monkeys" have done their job and the application passed QA'ed and testing, the application then belongs to IT. In my experience the vast majority of DEV's don't understand System Administration (there are exceptions to the rule of course) and no it's not about us loosing control but boils down to accountability. Just yesterday I had to fix and (try) explain to a dev why they could not deploy the code to a QA box because they kept on getting a CRC error in thier package. Now would you trust a production deployment to that person? What would happen when you have to account for service levels for a customer and the dev's kept scratching their heads trying to figure out what went wrong and then call a system admin into the frey.
Translating the translation;
"In short, YouTube may have handed the major labels approximately $50M so that the labels would turn a blind eye to the copyright infringements AND go after the competition to cement YouTube's position in the market."
"You mean... like... pay licensing fees? And encourage them to prosecute those who don't?"
You mean... like... pay extortion fees? And encourage them to kill those who don't?
Sounds very much like CFEngine http://www.cfengine.org/ with subversion?
Wonder if AMD will force ATI's hand to Finlay release a decent ATI video driver for Linux now?
I sold my ATI on craigslist because of the SAD state of the drivers. In simple terms "they are just flat out crap drivers", all my XGL and Compiz problems were related to the ATI drivers. But as soon as I through in my Nvidia card (TI4600) XGL+Compiz has not crashed on me since and every thing is butter smooth. I should of known better to even try an ATI card (it was free) as I have been using Nvidia and Linux for awhile with out any issues for awhile now.
Then explain to them why!!! We need to explain to people why this is and the ramifications of patent law. The more people educated about this the more chance something will be done about it! This goes far and beyond the normal OS flame war! Stop being part of the problem; think things through and help instead of spouting off flamebait.
Remind me not to go through the Drive Thru at a fast food joint with you!
=)
I'm using Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3
and see it fine. No flash on that page just java, maybe you should install java correctly if you have it installed, or install it if you don't have it installed.
John Perry Barlow said it best...
"These are aging industries run by aging men,...."
Dan just does not get it, he can't comprehend that information/content can be free and still make money. Or his greedy ass does understand but wants to get the profit margin up for the shareholders.
From the TFA
Dan G. "So, yeah, we should be protecting our copyright but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be looking for new ways to get that content to people in modern ways -"
then further down he says
"It is ridiculous to believe that you can give product away for free and be more successful. I mean it defies the laws of nature."
and here is the kicker...
"But he is right to the extent that we need to be finding new and different ways to get our content to people,"
God this guy sounds like SCOG lawyers for Pete's sake!!!! Which is Dan, make up your damn melon and quit suing your consumers moron!!!!
Saw this at a trade show this year (see boss I do learn from these things) http://www.lightpointe.com/home.cfm and from what I saw they have the technology and the bandwidth to handle most LAN's today. I did ask the rep if fog, rain, and snow etc... plays a part in the reliability of the connection. He said yes it does but you have to have major conditions (hurricane) for the connection to drop completely. If you go this route I would ask for a demo of it and research more QOS issues.
I have never studied astrodynamics, and even had to go look up what exactly inclination is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclination
So why is 97.4 degree Inclination bad, good, or are you just asking?
Even I don't want to see this happen but what the consumer wants and what the shareholders want conflict with each other. It comes down to the golden rule; "Those that have the gold make rules"
So Ubuntu Dapper made some big changes to the linux driver model that were not present in Breezy and required a huge portion of device drivers to be rewritten before they would work? Oh, wait, they didn't, so for the purposes of discussing this article making that comparison is absolutely pointless.
No but SUSE did and I just installed it, nothing needed to be changed at all. Oh wait....Sorry... a full functioning OS with drivers that work is "absolutely pointless"
And yes I would rather flame you at this juncture and spend another whole 5 seconds thinking about your comment and how flawed your logic is again, but then again I'm not intellectually qualified to understand. So in that case I will stop right here and let this post do it's job by talking up some of your highly intellectual time, shill.
Ummmm like your perception of reality is a bit skewed man, take hit off this to get you back to the reality everybody else is in, peace.
No but seriously, I'm on Ubuntu Dapper (Beta OS BTW) and everything worked out of the box! Well I had to change two things and add a modeline in xorg.conf for my monitor, and use automatix. But this is also FOSS software and of course is less reliable than the commercial offerings by microsoft right!!!!
"A senior Microsoft executive told a BBC documentary that people should use commercial software if they're looking for stability."
Yeah they have had 5 years to build a Mac OS X clone that does not work. Great stability there guys keep up the good work Redmond. "Maybe comparing apples and bicycles IS quite as good of an idea as it seems."
PS Why does the words Microsoft Shill come to mind all of sudden?
IMHO parent is 100% correct. I spent 3 days and 5 different shops looking at TV's and the one TV that we kept on coming back to was the Sony SXRD 60" it also supports 1080P (not true 1080p though). The black levels were the best, and the colors were so vivid compared to the rest. The 3 chip LCos is the way to go, if you want the picture quality.
But don't take my word for go out and see it first, then find a deal online, in fact we got ours for $2999 delivered and basic setup (which involved plugging in 3 wires)
Who said I was runing a Microsoft OS? Quit assuming all people run winblows!
Then tell me why my ClamAV is scanning real time as we type? After implementing ClamAV on my mail gateway and work stations, as well Snort for packet inspection looking for adware/spyware/virri my internal network has not seen a virus. I should also note that ClamAV beats out the big boys about 70-80% of the time when updating new virus sig's as well.
Now-a-days I don't think you will find an all inclusive anti-virus solution, all of them one way or another has flaws and will allow an infection to take place, even more so with the new rootkits and virtual machine proofs out now. Your only true anti-virus solution (RIGHT NOW) is running an OS other than a Micro$oft OS and using that gray matter between your ears, most people call it common sense.
type of stuff, mostly for the upper management, but not only computers, we are talking about anything that plugs into the wall. From cell phones to iPods, even as I sat down at my desk this morning I even had one voice mail left by an EX employee who worked as an executive admin wanting to know how to download songs to her iPod knock off. Note: she has been gone now for 9 months and this is the first time I have heard from her. She did make sure to say/ask how I was doing at the end of the voice mail geee how thoughtful!
We are a two person IT shop; My Boss the Director of IT, and myself Sr Sys Admin. I mostly deal with my network and servers and some luser (local user) stuff, while he gets the majority of face time with said lusers (my people skills are lacking, on purpose). The problem I have is the we are both on call 24x7, and well everyone at the company has been bugging us relentlessly for trivial stuff.
Here is an example; I was called by one of the executive admins last night at 11PM asking how to remove stationary from her outlook so she can send personal emails. If your company goes through this, it is what you can expect. Also note: These idiots computers are so bad off with spyware and virii it's just easier and takes less time to wipe the box clean and do a clean install of Ubuntu and tell them it's new version of winblows. Never in my life have I seen computers so hosed in the two years I been here.
I should also note that I saw an earlier post that said
"5. Make sure your resume is posted on every job board."
Well mine is and had 4 interviews this past month, and this time I'm the one doing the interviewing, taking my time to find a company that will not treat it's IT personnel as... Well... as IT whipping boys!
To Sum it up: You will get taken advantage of, and when it goes wrong or perceived something is wrong with these computers you will waste constant personal time to fix them and or hold the lusers hands and try to appease them. Let the "Geek Squad" charge them a couple hundred to take care of them and hose their computer even more.
I might of but did an update/upgrade and saw what you saw before I changed my splash ;) Got to love xorg 7 and XGL/Compiz.
Cheers,
Styles
After reading the story yesterday on /. http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/18/ 0047245 I downloaded the latest Alpha (/. says beta Ubuntu say Alpha) And for being Alpha it is very very stable. I got XGL working in less than 3 mins, all codecs, plugins, and java installed in 10 mins, and runs rings around Fedora Core 5. It's as responsive as my Gentoo install, seems to me anyway.
I'm very very impressed, IMHO Mark and the Ubuntu gang are going places in hurry if they keep this up. So the question that comes to my mind now is, would I install this on my mom's computer for her to use 24/7? My answer is I don't t think I would on this release (flight 6) but I will as soon as the final comes out in June, and that's
"is access to applications and a modicum of control over my PC, applications, and user experience."
You my friend and people like you are the reason why the CTO and myself will do our best to demo this to upper management and executives. Along with cost savings analysis (bye bye Winblows licencing hell), security analysis (bye bye Winblows security hell) and help desk analysis (bye bye wanabe Winblows poweruser hell), etc..
It's not the people who are completely new to computers that give me the hardest time, in fact I enjoy working with them and teaching them. It's the people who think they "Know" / "I'm computer literate" that give me the most headaches. For example; A user pluggin in laptop analog modem to a digital phone port thinking it will some how get access to the internal network, and yet it's IT's fault because they did not get a report sent out on time because of said lack of network connectivity, and they did not bother to tell us in the first place they had a problem to begin with! And yes this is the same person who said "I'm computer literate".
So lets sum it up shall we? You know enough to really hose your OS and don't know enough or are too lazy to fix it yourself. People like you are the #1 reason why thin clients and a centralized server with only access to applications that you have permissions to work with to do your job only, will become a standardized setting in the future.
Why? two reasons...
1. Only two games as far as I can tell from the website will be played; Super Smash Bros. Melee and Halo 2
2. From the FAQ at the site."Why doesn't MLG have tournaments for PC games?"
Major League Gaming is a competitive console gaming league. There are a huge number of other leagues and tournaments for PC games. As such, MLG does not stand to gain much by holding tournaments for PC games. With exception to fighting games, which are historically considered arcade games, competitive console gaming is relatively new, and MLG is a pioneer in that part of the industry. Competitive console gaming is also open to everybody, as it has a lower barrier to entry as compared to competitive PC gaming, in which those who have the funds necessary to purchase the latest hardware can have a rather significant hardware-based advantage over others.
In other words it's going to be joke!
When I start to see Ladders to a playoff for different types of games (FPS, RTS, or ideally a game with a combination of the two, for example Battlefield 2) which encourage cooperative, strategic play with teams. Why not model the game play to be broadcast like the most successful sports programs on tv today? e.g. real football or soccer game. You have a coach/s giving direction and the over all strategy to the game being played (RTS), and the team members executing the strategy given by coach by it's players working as team (FPS). Then to be able to watch, comment, critique and enjoy watching the teams strategy and game play as they face off, again just like a real sports broadcast. Only then do I see something of this caliber take off to become successful, and not watching 15 sec clips of a players game then 20 mins of background side stories about the players
Yes you are 100% correct, but John Doe Public does not know the difference between an online service provider vs Internet service provider. AOL provides their own branded content as well Internet network access. Back in the day this was one of the Major selling points for AOL, but today this type of thought is less prevalent because everyone and their mother now provides some sort of branded content/media. And talking to a couple of AOL users lately their mind STILL is set that AOL is providing content that they feel is worth it.
Will we see AOL disappear in the near future? No
Will we see AOL disappear in the far future? Yes IF: AOL does not change, just like any company to keep up or stay in business they will have change / innovate new products ideas and services, if the company or any company for that matter fails to do so they will die. IBM is great example of how to change and not die.
Sorry if this bit is a little off topic but it's funny about my last statement about change. The DMCA along with software patents discourages/prevents innovation and change, and according to my hypothesis every company that supports the two are shooting themselves in the foot.
--
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--
"Yes, but it starts 'Dear Valuable VIP Customer'. They may as well say 'Please drop your pants and bend over the table by that unnecessarily large hammer action masonry drill'."
Looking at his writing skills you can deduce that "sticking with what he knows" will be impossible due to the total lack of common sense and ignorance he portrays.
Nothing to see here move along.
Here let me twist the numbers a bit more and lets see if a CFO or CTO would like this price better?
Zimbra Collaboration Suite 3.0 - Open Source Edition cost = $0