then I realized: they sent them up in a shuttle and down in a shuttle, and didn't actully release them into space to fall down to the earth on china during valentines day...
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you are right, that is quite off, because I want something that works, and not something that I'm not allowed to say doesn't work.
If I followed your philosophy, hanging out here on slashdot, I would be forced to use Linux. It doesn't always work, but nobody is allowed to admit it's flaws without being flamed to hell and back.
If you understood the conepts of a computer and why it exists, then you wouldn't make such a comment.
I understand the concepts of free software, and I've nothing against it, in fact I use it quite a bit, and I've been working on things I plan to release as free software as soon as the are sufficiently functional.
The problem is, until the free software provides a sufficiently functional alternative to the closed source alternative, people should be able to use the closed source alternative.
Having closed source Windows, MacOS, [insert *Nix here], VMS, etc. didn't keep Linux or FreeBSD from being developed. Hell, FreeBSD came from an originally closed source system if you trace its lineage back far enough.
Microsoft and Corel Office suites didn't prevent things like Open Office, Abiword and the various other OSS offices from existing.
Gimp exists in spite of the existance of Corel Photopaint, Paint Shop Pro, and Adobe Photoshop.
Actually, I bounce between Windows and FreeBSD. Neither does everything I want perfectly, but betwixt the two, they do. And for what I need each for, it is better suited for the task than anything else I've used.
some people (myself included) couldn't give a damn is the software is free as in beer/speach/viewing or not. Some people just want their computers to work, work well, and with no more than a trivial amount of work to get them working.
To put this in to perspective, if BayTSP were trying to bust me for doing drugs, it'd be like getting arrested because I was hanging out with some dealers, but they never saw me using, buying, or selling any drugs."
That's a poor analogy, it's even more innocent than that - they saw you with a pipe. I mean the kind that can smoke tobacco, and is often used to do just that. Nothing inherantly illegal about it.
A bit of a side track, but not everyone who is poor is there because they were lazy or irresponsible. I'll grant you, there are plenty as bad or worse than you described, but there's plenty who have just had "hard luck".
I'm all for 'working to earn your keep', but there are plenty of rich people who didn't earn their riches, and plenty of poor people who had been responsible, did more than their fair share, and just ran into bad luck.
No personal information may be stored on a computer accessable to an external nextwork except:
1) For up to 24 hours after recieving the information. 2) For up to 24 hours after the information is needed in a business transaction 3) For no more than 72 hours consecutive for any reason 4) For no more than 1 in 3 hours over any given timeframe of 216 hours or larger, except where initiated by the person to whom the data describes
And 5) No personal data can be taken outside of the secured data storage facility except via protected mechanisms for secure backup purposes (and the backups must be in a similarly secure facility). I.E. Joe Schmoe can take the data home on his laptop.
Violations of #1 and #2 would have heavy but standard fines. Violations of 3 would have double the normal fines Violations of 4 and 5 would have triple the normal fines and
I don't think people would go for that. Most people wouldn't want a different number for:
1) Their "normal" bank 2) Their mortgage lender 3) Each of their credit cards (if they have any) 4) Their employer 5) Their school/university 6) The credit report companies(?)
And the credit report companies wouldn't want that confusion either, nor would the government. It'd be too confusing to figure things out. In the latter cases, it make tax avoidance much easier, and probably make the IRS even bigger, as if it wasn't overstuffed as it is.
That reads to me like he is saying that he wants us all to fight the DRM pushers, but to continue to buy his DRMed product - especially since the comment seems towards a country that *gasp* actually did put out legal measures to block DRM. The problem is, by buying a DRMed product, we are then supporting DRM financially. Sorry that posturing is pretty thin, and doesnt work for me.
Because the only way we can fight DRM is through the DRM selling groups. We can't download music from BMG/Universal/etc. directly. So, we go through things like iTunes.
If he honestly gave a damn, he'd realize that/he's/ the one who has the power and weight to fight those companies, not us. We have to exercise our force through him and his company, and similar companies.
wouldn't it be possible to use it with an online retailer somehow though?
It collects the information and simultaneiously (A) Creates the online order with info from the card (or simply stores it for later use) and (B) Runs the designated order through another machine.
and even then it would probably be unlikely. I mean, aren't their Linux distros with the Intel 3945ABG driver in them? That's not OSS (not completely anyway).
I think the FSF is probably more interested in keep peoples rights from being abused when it comes to existing OSS applications, or large-scale/severe infractions.
I think they aren't an evil organization, they are willing to overlook minor infractions.
Your right, I don't see ridiculous addendums to such a serious crime definition to be added.
However at the same time I/do/ see where you are going. This is one of the few cases where I would find it no-questions-acceptable for something like this. If it were something with a wishy-washy, changes-with-the-month description like "terrorism", then yes, I would have problems. This is one where the risk would be low, and to be honest, it's one where it's worth the risk.
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oh, a digital download can be faulty (though it is rare), but typically there is no extra charge to re-download.
But yeah the base idea is still the same: they can't be certain you aren't keeping a copy yourself.
then I realized: they sent them up in a shuttle and down in a shuttle, and didn't actully release them into space to fall down to the earth on china during valentines day...
The all-mighty lego!
Given I don't have the time or the skill, there really isn't anything I can do about Linux any more than I can do about Microsoft software.
you are right, that is quite off, because I want something that works, and not something that I'm not allowed to say doesn't work.
If I followed your philosophy, hanging out here on slashdot, I would be forced to use Linux. It doesn't always work, but nobody is allowed to admit it's flaws without being flamed to hell and back.
If you understood the conepts of a computer and why it exists, then you wouldn't make such a comment.
I understand the concepts of free software, and I've nothing against it, in fact I use it quite a bit, and I've been working on things I plan to release as free software as soon as the are sufficiently functional.
The problem is, until the free software provides a sufficiently functional alternative to the closed source alternative, people should be able to use the closed source alternative.
Having closed source Windows, MacOS, [insert *Nix here], VMS, etc. didn't keep Linux or FreeBSD from being developed. Hell, FreeBSD came from an originally closed source system if you trace its lineage back far enough.
Microsoft and Corel Office suites didn't prevent things like Open Office, Abiword and the various other OSS offices from existing.
Gimp exists in spite of the existance of Corel Photopaint, Paint Shop Pro, and Adobe Photoshop.
Actually, I bounce between Windows and FreeBSD. Neither does everything I want perfectly, but betwixt the two, they do. And for what I need each for, it is better suited for the task than anything else I've used.
some people (myself included) couldn't give a damn is the software is free as in beer/speach/viewing or not. Some people just want their computers to work, work well, and with no more than a trivial amount of work to get them working.
-Jim Stapleton
My FreeBSD desktop is quite shiney thank you... Fast and pretty graphics... *drool*
That's a poor analogy, it's even more innocent than that - they saw you with a pipe. I mean the kind that can smoke tobacco, and is often used to do just that. Nothing inherantly illegal about it.
What a crock of bull-poo.
A bit of a side track, but not everyone who is poor is there because they were lazy or irresponsible. I'll grant you, there are plenty as bad or worse than you described, but there's plenty who have just had "hard luck".
I'm all for 'working to earn your keep', but there are plenty of rich people who didn't earn their riches, and plenty of poor people who had been responsible, did more than their fair share, and just ran into bad luck.
why not add the following as well:
No personal information may be stored on a computer accessable to an external nextwork except:
1) For up to 24 hours after recieving the information.
2) For up to 24 hours after the information is needed in a business transaction
3) For no more than 72 hours consecutive for any reason
4) For no more than 1 in 3 hours over any given timeframe of 216 hours or larger, except where initiated by the person to whom the data describes
And
5) No personal data can be taken outside of the secured data storage facility except via protected mechanisms for secure backup purposes (and the backups must be in a similarly secure facility). I.E. Joe Schmoe can take the data home on his laptop.
Violations of #1 and #2 would have heavy but standard fines.
Violations of 3 would have double the normal fines
Violations of 4 and 5 would have triple the normal fines and
"Didn't the opposite happen with the Reps?" I believe I said.
I had the last couple years covered, if not explicitly.
I don't think people would go for that. Most people wouldn't want a different number for:
1) Their "normal" bank
2) Their mortgage lender
3) Each of their credit cards (if they have any)
4) Their employer
5) Their school/university
6) The credit report companies(?)
And the credit report companies wouldn't want that confusion either, nor would the government. It'd be too confusing to figure things out. In the latter cases, it make tax avoidance much easier, and probably make the IRS even bigger, as if it wasn't overstuffed as it is.
but Republicans aren't just increasing big business, they are increasing big government too...
But I see you point, that does make it clearer. We still have a pretty screwed up government.
Isn't this the Republicans domain, increasing privacy?
Aren't the Democrats in power now in congress? Didn't the opposite happen with the Reps?
When did hell freeze over, and why wasn't I informed.
I swear US politics is such a screwed up thing, and it just keeps getting worse.
*has a pathetic look on face*
I shoulda got a patent.
it is posturing to get sales.
That reads to me like he is saying that he wants us all to fight the DRM pushers, but to continue to buy his DRMed product - especially since the comment seems towards a country that *gasp* actually did put out legal measures to block DRM. The problem is, by buying a DRMed product, we are then supporting DRM financially. Sorry that posturing is pretty thin, and doesnt work for me.
At this point, due to so much corporate influence and control, we americans cant really do much to force our government to push such a change.
Why?
/he's/ the one who has the power and weight to fight those companies, not us. We have to exercise our force through him and his company, and similar companies.
Because the only way we can fight DRM is through the DRM selling groups. We can't download music from BMG/Universal/etc. directly. So, we go through things like iTunes.
If he honestly gave a damn, he'd realize that
it the CRT/CRTD.dlls if I remember correctly in Windows, when using Visual Studios.
wouldn't it be possible to use it with an online retailer somehow though?
It collects the information and simultaneiously
(A) Creates the online order with info from the card (or simply stores it for later use)
and
(B) Runs the designated order through another machine.
and even then it would probably be unlikely. I mean, aren't their Linux distros with the Intel 3945ABG driver in them? That's not OSS (not completely anyway).
I think the FSF is probably more interested in keep peoples rights from being abused when it comes to existing OSS applications, or large-scale/severe infractions.
I think they aren't an evil organization, they are willing to overlook minor infractions.
Your right, I don't see ridiculous addendums to such a serious crime definition to be added.
/do/ see where you are going. This is one of the few cases where I would find it no-questions-acceptable for something like this. If it were something with a wishy-washy, changes-with-the-month description like "terrorism", then yes, I would have problems. This is one where the risk would be low, and to be honest, it's one where it's worth the risk.
However at the same time I