this is interesting; you are suggesting a DoS attack on a licence. I like it. only one question: how is the patent clause going to help anything and where are you going to get loads of material to licence under this licence
take a look at this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva I cant help you much personnaly - im ubuntu but of the same generation as you. but that website helped me more than anything else.
keep that website bookmarked. it is VERY useful. if you are still having problems feel free to leave a comment and ill see if i can find some more help.
if a web page is put up on a server, and nobody is there to surf it -- does it make an impression? If a is put up on a webserver, but nobody visits it. Is it really there?
oh re ubuntu: what i really love about ubuntu is ubuntuguide.org I know its not official, but u wouldnt believe how useful it is to people who find MANY pages of stuff annoying. i know it has a section: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva for mandriva... but i would suggest you launch something similar yourself.... to be honest, i may use ubuntu, but i dont have any particular affiliation with it and at the end of the day, the competition is probably healthy and productive....
anyway, when i switched to ubuntu i found that website reall really helpful, you might want to consider looking into it, something similar.
to be honest i havent ever seriously looked at mandriva.... i used it like 3 times when i first got some form on gnu+linux. after that the person who was pushing me onto gnu+linux stopped pushing me to mandrake, at which point it dropped from my radar.
now im using debian & ubuntu on various machines, ill take a look. no promises etc, but ill take a look, and u cant ask for more that that:)
basically the idea is that these distros lure people off OS X and vista. while eye candy is definly not what most people want, it lures people... you are right, the bells and whistles are motre important atm... mainly because a lot of developers have decided that the core apps are up to the job, but doing stuff better than MS is worth it...
Ubuntu has basically stolen all the hype mandriva used to have hasn't it? Mandriva used to be one of the only 'gratuis' distros which had a nice desktop by default didn't it pioneer the way towards 'point and click', 'just working'?
It's interesting they are including all this NON-Free stuff by default, it seems like they are trying to be linux mint. I don't applaud their inclusion of proprietary binaries in GNU+linux as default
well heres the challenge guys: see how many girls you can get to come to ur party:
1-5: come on guys, your mothers dont count.. 6-10: nice try, aunts, neighbours and horses don't either 10-30: getting there, 31-50: thats more like it... 51-100 there must be something wrong with your geek cred, get on slashdot, NOW, and it might go back to normal 101+ ''now guys, what have I told you about giving the tabloids fake rumours about massive sales starting at the x_store, y_road, z_street, as a means to divert to women to your houses....
Both 'parties' remotely close to where I live have 2 or 3 people. [...] I'm not going to go sit around in awkward silence with a couple other socially inept geeks just for a t-shirt.
I am as well one of the people who have switched to gnu+linux in the past year. to be fair, I already had been introduced to it and a few years back was probably was one of the only people to buy lispire (dont laugh;) I had had ubuntu on a secondry partition for a while, then suddenly my long time winxp install got killed. I just couldnt be bothered to reinstall all my programs on it. i just flipped to the ubuntu partition and a few months down the line decided that i couldnt be arsed doing tech support for my parents who were on xp, and so they got ubuntu as well. about 6 months down the line there are now 4 machines running debian or (k|x)ubuntu. there are only 2 windows installs left, one on my brothers machine, and one on a dual p boot laptop, with ubuntu being used 98% of the time. I have found that for what i want to do, there are more than enough stuff to let me do it: fps - open arena & nexuiz image editing - gimpshop dtp - scibus webbrowser - firefox -duh! last.fm - last.fm -:) music player - amarok crazy thing to make ur friends jelous - beryl web dev - bluefish manual - ubuntuguide.org support line - ubuntuforums.org bittorent - ktorrent IM - pidgin/amsn ssh - openssh (i love what you can do with ssh & x server!)
to be fair it helps a lot if you use free software on windows before you cross, because then you dont find it SUCH a culture shock
several things i LOVE: easy package management, multiple desktops, symlinks, interoperability, ideological aims by ideological aims, i mean i support Free Software as defined by the FSF, i think all software should be free and am activly trying to promote it, whilst using as little software with restrictive licences as i can.
I think the hardest thing about switching for me was that, one minute I was a poweruser, with an OS which i knew inside out, next minute, i was having to google, to find how to do all the stuff i wanted to. (I was helped immensely here by ubuntuguide.org)
the programs i have to say i miss the most are as follows: fl studio - making music this easily is amazing in its own right windows movie maker - despite its creator, i can't seem to find a piece of foolproof video editing software to replace this. it is a shame, becaue WMM isnt really that amazing the first place.
projects i wish would have a large injection of cash/energy/hype: gnash gnewsense the last ripper kivo lives hydrogen rosegarden tuxguitar (for a working powertab compataible implementation)
You can't beat the hi-fidelity of vinyl can you? I just chucked out my computer, cd player, ipod etc... so i could just listen to everything in crystal clear vinyl.;)
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this is interesting; you are suggesting a DoS attack on a licence. I like it. only one question: how is the patent clause going to help anything and where are you going to get loads of material to licence under this licence
take a look at this guide:
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva
I cant help you much personnaly - im ubuntu but of the same generation as you. but that website helped me more than anything else.
keep that website bookmarked. it is VERY useful.
if you are still having problems feel free to leave a comment and ill see if i can find some more help.
It's Viagra...
buy it here
you can do http://slashdot.org/journal.pl?op=list&uid={uid} to find who own a certain one.. ie http://slashdot.org/journal.pl?op=list&uid=7331
already taken:
see
http://slashdot.org/journal.pl?op=list&uid=1337
oh re ubuntu: what i really love about ubuntu is ubuntuguide.org
I know its not official, but u wouldnt believe how useful it is to people who find MANY pages of stuff annoying. i know it has a section: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Mandriva for mandriva... but i would suggest you launch something similar yourself....
to be honest, i may use ubuntu, but i dont have any particular affiliation with it and at the end of the day, the competition is probably healthy and productive....
anyway, when i switched to ubuntu i found that website reall really helpful, you might want to consider looking into it, something similar.
to be honest i havent ever seriously looked at mandriva.... :)
i used it like 3 times when i first got some form on gnu+linux. after that the person who was pushing me onto gnu+linux stopped pushing me to mandrake, at which point it dropped from my radar.
now im using debian & ubuntu on various machines, ill take a look.
no promises etc, but ill take a look, and u cant ask for more that that
you havent been using open suse very long....
not a very funny joke was it AC?
using GNU/linux
>>**
varients accepted:
using GNU/unix
uning GNU/minix
using GNU/some_thing_else
basically the idea is that these distros lure people off OS X and vista. while eye candy is definly not what most people want, it lures people...
you are right, the bells and whistles are motre important atm... mainly because a lot of developers have decided that the core apps are up to the job, but doing stuff better than MS is worth it...
Ubuntu has basically stolen all the hype mandriva used to have hasn't it?
Mandriva used to be one of the only 'gratuis' distros which had a nice desktop by default
didn't it pioneer the way towards 'point and click', 'just working'?
It's interesting they are including all this NON-Free stuff by default, it seems like they are trying to be linux mint.
I don't applaud their inclusion of proprietary binaries in GNU+linux as default
well heres the challenge guys:
see how many girls you can get to come to ur party:
1-5: come on guys, your mothers dont count..
6-10: nice try, aunts, neighbours and horses don't either
10-30: getting there,
31-50: thats more like it...
51-100 there must be something wrong with your geek cred, get on slashdot, NOW, and it might go back to normal
101+ ''now guys, what have I told you about giving the tabloids fake rumours about massive sales starting at the x_store, y_road, z_street, as a means to divert to women to your houses....
party or not party in russia, the soviet bit has gone and has been replaced with ''Putin's'':
in Putins's russia you party about slashdot
There went your nerd cred.
He didnt have one to lose: http://thepeckfamily.us/Manchester anyone?
I am as well one of the people who have switched to gnu+linux in the past year. ;) :)
to be fair, I already had been introduced to it and a few years back was probably was one of the only people to buy lispire (dont laugh
I had had ubuntu on a secondry partition for a while, then suddenly my long time winxp install got killed. I just couldnt be bothered to reinstall all my programs on it.
i just flipped to the ubuntu partition and a few months down the line decided that i couldnt be arsed doing tech support for my parents who were on xp, and so they got ubuntu as well. about 6 months down the line there are now 4 machines running debian or (k|x)ubuntu.
there are only 2 windows installs left, one on my brothers machine, and one on a dual p
boot laptop, with ubuntu being used 98% of the time.
I have found that for what i want to do, there are more than enough stuff to let me do it:
fps - open arena & nexuiz
image editing - gimpshop
dtp - scibus
webbrowser - firefox -duh!
last.fm - last.fm -
music player - amarok
crazy thing to make ur friends jelous - beryl
web dev - bluefish
manual - ubuntuguide.org
support line - ubuntuforums.org
bittorent - ktorrent
IM - pidgin/amsn
ssh - openssh (i love what you can do with ssh & x server!)
to be fair it helps a lot if you use free software on windows before you cross, because then you dont find it SUCH a culture shock
several things i LOVE: easy package management, multiple desktops, symlinks, interoperability, ideological aims
by ideological aims, i mean i support Free Software as defined by the FSF, i think all software should be free and am activly trying to promote it, whilst using as little software with restrictive licences as i can.
I think the hardest thing about switching for me was that, one minute I was a poweruser, with an OS which i knew inside out, next minute, i was having to google, to find how to do all the stuff i wanted to. (I was helped immensely here by ubuntuguide.org)
the programs i have to say i miss the most are as follows:
fl studio - making music this easily is amazing in its own right
windows movie maker - despite its creator, i can't seem to find a piece of foolproof video editing software to replace this. it is a shame, becaue WMM isnt really that amazing the first place.
projects i wish would have a large injection of cash/energy/hype:
gnash
gnewsense
the last ripper
kivo
lives
hydrogen
rosegarden
tuxguitar (for a working powertab compataible implementation)
read this http://www.musicunited.org/2_thelaw.html
i agree here....
You can't beat the hi-fidelity of vinyl can you? I just chucked out my computer, cd player, ipod etc... so i could just listen to everything in crystal clear vinyl. ;)
you would be suprised what allofmp3 does carry
this is an interesting theory...
it seems to work as well...
i like it
Compared to itunes though... this is not much different.....
Compared to Magnatune...
Magnatune wins