Moving the two statues was hard until I figured out they wouldn't commit suicide by jumping off the edges. Oh, and I'm glad you mentioned Ocarinas, I'm thinking about buying one and learning to play. I need to check pricing.
I played thru Silent Hill with no cheats and don't remember the piano puzzle being that difficult, but I've played musical instruments since I was 5. I remember when Myst was out, one of my friends that was not a gamer got a call from a tone deaf friend wanting help with the organ puzzle. He listened to it over the phone and told him which keys to hit. It worked. You just need some more music geeks in your life! I just finished Twilight Princess on the Wii and I loved the Howling Stone sections where you have to howl (As the wolf of course) the same tune the wind is making blowing through the stone.
My point of applying black and white to a gray area and then admitting this situation was indicative of the fact that I was trying to take the argument beyond this particular case. Hence my example cases. The black and white is that when someone steals you unlocked car, they are still depriving you of a car. If someone steals your unsecured recipes on your website, they aren't depriving you of anything, other than perhaps the revenue generated from them purchasing the recipes, if they would have bought them in the first place. And I *am* asking your opinion, because I want to know what intelligent people think of these issues, not what lawmakers think of them. (oooh, snap!) You seemed to make logical arguments, so I'd like to explore where you think the line is. So, if you care to go back and comment on my scenarios, I'm interested in the opinions of other IT people. And I agree that difficulty should play a factor, because what's difficult for some is a cakewalk for others.
He didn't break into anyone's computer. You're trying to apply black and white rules to a gray area. I'm not arguing that he wasn't wrong, the fact that it self-replicated makes it a worm and he should know that what he was doing was illegal, but what if he hadn't made it self replicating? What if it just made everyone that visited his page a friend? What if I'm visiting a web page that sells recipes and they give you a link to/recipes/45.html and/recipes/354.html as examples, then I type in/recipes/1.html thru/recipes/999.html and print out all the recipes without paying them? Did I break the law? I'm not trying to troll you, I want to see where you think the line should be drawn. How much effort do I have to put into getting around their security before it becomes illegal? What if I saw the recipe on a search engine and extracted the other ones without even knowing they were charging for it?
"67 BoA customers...of the 60 that got that far" So 7 people couldn't even get to the sitekey? (I'm a BoA customer, the site key is the second step of the login process, after entering your username or SSN on the main page.
Because if my computer is so clogged with mal-ware that I can't get to Google's website, then their work is for naught. But the reason I said that was to illustrate the point that NO ONE can anticipate every possible way people will try to use their code.
Yeah the "at the end of the day they have complete control of what rises to the top" line gives it away. Google is so smart they can anticipate EVERY POSSIBLE use of their code? If they are, they should buy M$ and fix all the damn bugs and security vulnerabilities in their products.
You're welcome to do that, of course, but it would be more useful to Slashdot as a whole if you didn't. Misspellings and in-jokes don't help us build consensus about classification or value judgments of Slashdot content.
Now if you could switch between the browser and game without closing them out and going back to the Wii menu, that would make looking up a hint when you get stuck at Zelda a snap! I guess I'll continue to keep my wireless laptop on the couch beside me until then.
Well of course you don't give out code that is copyrighted by a previous employer. If someone asks me to do something I feel is wrong, I'm not going to work for them, so it is a moot point. I guess I should explain that I've never worker for a software company. All my coding experience has been for companies that don't give a fuck what language it is written in, as long as it does what they need it to do. Most of my assignments have involved a lot of "business analysis". My first meeting usually goes like this: We're doing things like this. Here are the pros and cons of our process. How can we leverage technology to make it more profitable?
I have a lot of code samples that show that I can code efficiently, but wouldn't do the prospective employer any good by itself. My resume illustrates that I'm great at looking at a process and then finding ways to improve it. If a company already has business analysts, they don't care that I can do that (although it's a deciding factor if there's another programmer with my skill set and experience) they want to know that I can translate my process to a usable application. I have signed NDAs before, but most of them specify that it's the concept I can't disclose, not that I can't show someone 15 lines of code out of an`app that is tens if thousands of lines long.
IP is usually the concept, not the code. I can write several programs that have very dissimilar code, but look and behave identically. Besides, I've never seen a company request that you deliver a backup of the code repository, they usually want to see a small object or method you wrote to accomplish a common task.
That'll only work if your resume is splattered with government jobs. Who's going to believe that code for a small bank in East Bumblefuck is classified? Instead tell then that you signed an NDA. Or here's a novel concept... give them what they ask for and let them decide if you are qualified for the job.
but Tom came in to work hung over and turned the laser all the way up. We burned a hole right through your new MacBook Pro. Thankfully, you signed the waiver, so we're good. I hope you have backups of all that business data though.
Pansies. I AM a programmer. I context switch about 20 times a day. I have *THREE* major projects going on right now. Guess how I handle it? Multiple Desktops! Yeah, 1 for each project. (And don't complain that you are in a Windows environ, you can have multiple desktops in Windows.) Context switching costs ONLY the amount of time I'd spent on the current task. If this fictional girl has spent 2 weeks organizing her mind and hasn't put it to code yet, she needs to be fired. The most time I would lose with a context switch would be an hour, plus the time spend on the other project. If I've been working on a problem over an hour and haven't found an answer, I'm going to go ask for help from my team.
"This might suggest that little interbreeding occurred between our own species and the Neanderthals."
The study you linked to doesn't say they didn't interbreed, it says it "might suggest" that they didn't breed. Even if it "Definitely suggests" they didn't breed doesn't mean that they didn't. If they fought (and considering we've been fighting since recorded history, that's a fair assumption) they probably killed the men and raped the women.
The first thing I do on every Windows PC that I touch is disable automatic updating. I let it TELL me about updates, and then I decided if and when to install them. Windows is geared toward end users who don't understand about security patches or don't want to be bothered by them. There's no sense getting angry at MS when they provided you a means to prevent what enraged you.
If you want to get angry at MS, be angry that IE7 is just as buggy and full of security holes as EVERY OTHER version of IE. I use FF2, but installed IE7 the day it was released so I can test my webapps on it. Most of them don't work, even though I haven't had to change 1 line of code for FF2 to work with them.
Stating a POV isn't whining. He asked questions and I answered. And as far as comparing salaries, I'm 28, living in a major US city, and I really don't care about how much people make, but/. doesn't let me include pictures in posts, so I can't prove me dick is bigger than his, so that's the best I had.
NetCraft confirms it, people on/. take themselves way too seriously. You say I should get over myself, it looks to me like I'm the only one here that not taking this bullshit seriously. I'll clue you guys in... THIS IS WEBSITE... the real world is outside with all the sunshine and grass and shit. Which is where I'm about to go since it's quitting time. (Ok, well I'm walking through the Real World to get the the Real Bar, if you want to get all pedantic.)
pointing out the ridiculousness of your unwarrented[sic] ad hominem
Now THAT'S funny. Who talks like that?
I was being funny answering his question, but if he'd specified what I'd done for the community I could have pointed out that if you search for my real name on google it bring up over 100k results. Most of them are articles about security and FREE (both ways) security and privacy software I contributed to. But I don't expect or need to be honored by "the community", so I didn't mention it. Why do you think that because I posted a snarky comment to the front page that I expect you fucks to bow down and worship me? Is that what RMS does? I'm not RMS, I'm TL, and I like it that way.
BTW - I don't do everything for money, if she's cute enough I do her for free. Speaking of which, it's quitting time, so I'm headed to the bar. It's been real.
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I become and addiction as soon as girls see me. I'm not into guys though, so I'm not sure what you have planned June 29th.
Moving the two statues was hard until I figured out they wouldn't commit suicide by jumping off the edges. Oh, and I'm glad you mentioned Ocarinas, I'm thinking about buying one and learning to play. I need to check pricing.
I played thru Silent Hill with no cheats and don't remember the piano puzzle being that difficult, but I've played musical instruments since I was 5. I remember when Myst was out, one of my friends that was not a gamer got a call from a tone deaf friend wanting help with the organ puzzle. He listened to it over the phone and told him which keys to hit. It worked. You just need some more music geeks in your life! I just finished Twilight Princess on the Wii and I loved the Howling Stone sections where you have to howl (As the wolf of course) the same tune the wind is making blowing through the stone.
Thanks for taking time to answer. You seem like a reasonable, logical thinker, which is a rare find on tha dot!
My point of applying black and white to a gray area and then admitting this situation was indicative of the fact that I was trying to take the argument beyond this particular case. Hence my example cases. The black and white is that when someone steals you unlocked car, they are still depriving you of a car. If someone steals your unsecured recipes on your website, they aren't depriving you of anything, other than perhaps the revenue generated from them purchasing the recipes, if they would have bought them in the first place. And I *am* asking your opinion, because I want to know what intelligent people think of these issues, not what lawmakers think of them. (oooh, snap!) You seemed to make logical arguments, so I'd like to explore where you think the line is. So, if you care to go back and comment on my scenarios, I'm interested in the opinions of other IT people. And I agree that difficulty should play a factor, because what's difficult for some is a cakewalk for others.
He didn't break into anyone's computer. You're trying to apply black and white rules to a gray area. I'm not arguing that he wasn't wrong, the fact that it self-replicated makes it a worm and he should know that what he was doing was illegal, but what if he hadn't made it self replicating? What if it just made everyone that visited his page a friend? What if I'm visiting a web page that sells recipes and they give you a link to /recipes/45.html and /recipes/354.html as examples, then I type in /recipes/1.html thru /recipes/999.html and print out all the recipes without paying them? Did I break the law? I'm not trying to troll you, I want to see where you think the line should be drawn. How much effort do I have to put into getting around their security before it becomes illegal? What if I saw the recipe on a search engine and extracted the other ones without even knowing they were charging for it?
"67 BoA customers...of the 60 that got that far" So 7 people couldn't even get to the sitekey? (I'm a BoA customer, the site key is the second step of the login process, after entering your username or SSN on the main page.
Because if my computer is so clogged with mal-ware that I can't get to Google's website, then their work is for naught. But the reason I said that was to illustrate the point that NO ONE can anticipate every possible way people will try to use their code.
they should stop giving the Execs bonuses larger than many people's salaries and buy some of that dark fiber so they can handle the traffic?
Yeah the "at the end of the day they have complete control of what rises to the top" line gives it away. Google is so smart they can anticipate EVERY POSSIBLE use of their code? If they are, they should buy M$ and fix all the damn bugs and security vulnerabilities in their products.
sucks donkey nuts. The only reason we have it is because they won't let us have the source code. Not a problem with MySQL! ;-)
You're welcome to do that, of course, but it would be more useful to Slashdot as a whole if you didn't. Misspellings and in-jokes don't help us build consensus about classification or value judgments of Slashdot content.
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Now if you could switch between the browser and game without closing them out and going back to the Wii menu, that would make looking up a hint when you get stuck at Zelda a snap! I guess I'll continue to keep my wireless laptop on the couch beside me until then.
I have a lot of code samples that show that I can code efficiently, but wouldn't do the prospective employer any good by itself. My resume illustrates that I'm great at looking at a process and then finding ways to improve it. If a company already has business analysts, they don't care that I can do that (although it's a deciding factor if there's another programmer with my skill set and experience) they want to know that I can translate my process to a usable application. I have signed NDAs before, but most of them specify that it's the concept I can't disclose, not that I can't show someone 15 lines of code out of an`app that is tens if thousands of lines long.
IP is usually the concept, not the code. I can write several programs that have very dissimilar code, but look and behave identically. Besides, I've never seen a company request that you deliver a backup of the code repository, they usually want to see a small object or method you wrote to accomplish a common task.
That'll only work if your resume is splattered with government jobs. Who's going to believe that code for a small bank in East Bumblefuck is classified? Instead tell then that you signed an NDA. Or here's a novel concept... give them what they ask for and let them decide if you are qualified for the job.
but Tom came in to work hung over and turned the laser all the way up. We burned a hole right through your new MacBook Pro. Thankfully, you signed the waiver, so we're good. I hope you have backups of all that business data though.
Quickly Circle! Stop writing anything interesting!
Pansies. I AM a programmer. I context switch about 20 times a day. I have *THREE* major projects going on right now. Guess how I handle it? Multiple Desktops! Yeah, 1 for each project. (And don't complain that you are in a Windows environ, you can have multiple desktops in Windows.) Context switching costs ONLY the amount of time I'd spent on the current task. If this fictional girl has spent 2 weeks organizing her mind and hasn't put it to code yet, she needs to be fired. The most time I would lose with a context switch would be an hour, plus the time spend on the other project. If I've been working on a problem over an hour and haven't found an answer, I'm going to go ask for help from my team.
Make your own!
The study you linked to doesn't say they didn't interbreed, it says it "might suggest" that they didn't breed. Even if it "Definitely suggests" they didn't breed doesn't mean that they didn't. If they fought (and considering we've been fighting since recorded history, that's a fair assumption) they probably killed the men and raped the women.
The first thing I do on every Windows PC that I touch is disable automatic updating. I let it TELL me about updates, and then I decided if and when to install them. Windows is geared toward end users who don't understand about security patches or don't want to be bothered by them. There's no sense getting angry at MS when they provided you a means to prevent what enraged you.
If you want to get angry at MS, be angry that IE7 is just as buggy and full of security holes as EVERY OTHER version of IE. I use FF2, but installed IE7 the day it was released so I can test my webapps on it. Most of them don't work, even though I haven't had to change 1 line of code for FF2 to work with them.
Stating a POV isn't whining. He asked questions and I answered. And as far as comparing salaries, I'm 28, living in a major US city, and I really don't care about how much people make, but /. doesn't let me include pictures in posts, so I can't prove me dick is bigger than his, so that's the best I had.
NetCraft confirms it, people on /. take themselves way too seriously. You say I should get over myself, it looks to me like I'm the only one here that not taking this bullshit seriously. I'll clue you guys in... THIS IS WEBSITE... the real world is outside with all the sunshine and grass and shit. Which is where I'm about to go since it's quitting time. (Ok, well I'm walking through the Real World to get the the Real Bar, if you want to get all pedantic.)
pointing out the ridiculousness of your unwarrented[sic] ad hominem
Now THAT'S funny. Who talks like that?
I was being funny answering his question, but if he'd specified what I'd done for the community I could have pointed out that if you search for my real name on google it bring up over 100k results. Most of them are articles about security and FREE (both ways) security and privacy software I contributed to. But I don't expect or need to be honored by "the community", so I didn't mention it. Why do you think that because I posted a snarky comment to the front page that I expect you fucks to bow down and worship me? Is that what RMS does? I'm not RMS, I'm TL, and I like it that way.
BTW - I don't do everything for money, if she's cute enough I do her for free. Speaking of which, it's quitting time, so I'm headed to the bar. It's been real.