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I got skeptical when the post claimed the US forced tire makers to put these chips in, and especially after 9/11/2001.

So here, https://mows.aiag.org/scriptcontent/event_presenta tions/files/E6IDSHOWSP/AIAGSTAND_final.pdf I found out that the AIAG was working on this in 2000, and was making major choices for the standard in February 2001. Read slide 40.

From then on, I find out that tags in tires were a response to warranty fraud, the T.R.E.A.D. act mandating earlier identification of defects, and inventory management. No government conspiracy needed.

Then, common sense began to intrude. For the US governemnt to track my movements from the tags in my tires, two important things have to happen:

1. The government needs sales records that include the tag GUID and my name, and something else. Credit card might do. Address helps also.

2. The government needs to put up readers and some form of near-real-time communication.

Consider the challenges here. At 40MPH, my car is going about 211,200 fph, 58fps... Sound fast doesn't it?

Now if the practical range is 48 inches (TWICE the published range), my vehicle is in range for about 0.8 seconds. Assuming I'm withing 24 inches of the reader, going through the Transpass gate. 40MPH I do through those without trouble.

Read in less than a second? Don't ask me. Ask someone in the business. I bet not.

Also consider that the T.R.E.A.D. act was enacted in 2000. Not in response to the Firestone/Ford problems, which were serious before that. And the T.R.E.A.D. act doesn't even include the word 'VIN'. And the act doesn't per se involve domestic vehicles, but foreign vehicles and components, intending to force carmakers to disclose problems with foreign models that may be related to similar problems with similar domestic production. Good idea. But only the rule-making could twist this into the device the poster claims, and he doesn't post any of the rulemaking that indicates that. Perhaps he should be asked to provide evidence. I suspect the answer will be 'it's secret'.

Sorry, I took a look. His posts don't add up, IMHO. The story about someone getting returning a defective tire to Nordstrom's was more credible than this post. Sorry, DeadChobi, but I need more.

Now, RFID readers on the New York throughways make sense. Most containers have tags now, and many fleet vehicles do also. Might be useful to read tags, spot one registered to a tanker dedicated to hazardous waste, and realize it's headed down the freeway where hazmat is prohibited.

That I expect.

WRONG! The feds do in fact log all car tires that pass secret monitoring points on certain highways and have for many years since T.R.E.A.D. was enacted by law. License plates are transferrable and also not 100% discernable.

It is a US felony to commercially import or sell auto tires that do not have a sanctioned spy chip RFID radio transpnders in them, with a unique GUID for every tire.

A secret initiative exists to track all funnel-points on interstates and US borders for car tire ID transponders (RFID chips embedded in the tire).

Your tires have a passive coil with 64 to 128 bit serial number emitter in them! (AIAG B-11 ADC v3.0) . A particular frequency energizes it enough so that a receiver can read its little ROM. A ROM which in essence is your GUID for your TIRE. Multiple tires do not confuse the readers. Its almost identical to all "FastPass" "SpeedPass" technologies you see on gasoline keychain dongles and commuter windshield sticker-chips. The US gov has secretly started using these chips to track people as far back as 2002.

I am not making this up. Melt down a high end Firestone, or Bridgestone tire and go through the bits near the rim (sometimes at base of tread) and you will locate the transmitter (similar to 'grain of rice' pet ids and Mobile SpeedPass, but not as high tech as the tollbooth based units). Sokymat LOGI 160, and Sokymat LOGI 120 transponder buttons are just SOME of the transponders found in modern high end car tires. The AIAG B-11 Tire tracking standard is now implemented for all 3rd party transponder manufactures [covered below].

The US Customs service uses it in Canada to detect people who swap license plates on cars when doing a transport of contraband on a mule vehicle that normally has not logged enough hours across the border.

Photos of untamperable tracking chips before molded deep into tires! :
http://www.sokymat.com/index.php?id=94

the first subcontracter secretly hired for providing gear for bulk logging of tire RFID on highways in 2002 was :
http://web.archive.org/web/20021014102238/telemati cs-wireless.com/divisions.html

ALL USA cars can be radio tracked using the tires. Refer to tire standard AIAG B-11 ADC, (B-11 is coincidentally Post Sept 11 fastrack initiative by US Gov to speed up tire chip standardization to one read-back standard for highway usage).

The AIAG is "The Automotive Industry Action Group"

The non proprietary (non-sokymat controlled) standard is the AIAG B-11 standard is the "Tire Label and Radio Frequency Identification" standard

"ADC" stands for "Automatic Data Collection"

The "AIDCW" is the US gov manipulated "Automatic Identification Data Collection Work Group"

The standard was started and finished rapidly in less than a year as a direct consequence of the Sep 11 attacks by Saudi nationals.

All tire manufacturers were forced to comply AIAG B-11 3.0 Radio Tire tracking standard by the 2004 model year.

(B-11: Tire & Wheel Label & Radio Frequency ID(RFID) Standard)

http://mows.aiag.org/source/Orders/index.cfm?task= 3&CATEGORY=AUTOIDBC&PRODUCT_TYPE=SALES&SKU=B-11

(use google cache to glance at that link if you are a hacker, all access to that page is watched by the feds, as are orders.)

A huge (28 megabyte compressed zip) video of a tire being scanned remotely was at http://mows.aiag.org/ScriptContent/videos/ (the file is "video Aiagb-11.zip").
THAT LINK was still valid as recently as Feb 2004, long after my 2002 ignored warnings on slashdot. But in July 2004 died after feds saw my origianl warnings regarding T.R.E.A.D. act (RFID citizen tracking)

WRONG! The feds do in fact log all car tires that pass secret monitoring points on certain highways and have for many years since T.R.E.A.D. was enacted by law. License plates are transferrable and also not 100% discernable.

It is a US felony to commercially import or sell auto tires that do not have a sanctioned spy chip RFID radio transpnders in them, with a unique GUID for every tire.

A secret initiative exists to track all funnel-points on interstates and US borders for car tire ID transponders (RFID chips embedded in the tire).

Your tires have a passive coil with 64 to 128 bit serial number emitter in them! (AIAG B-11 ADC v3.0) . A particular frequency energizes it enough so that a receiver can read its little ROM. A ROM which in essence is your GUID for your TIRE. Multiple tires do not confuse the readers. Its almost identical to all "FastPass" "SpeedPass" technologies you see on gasoline keychain dongles and commuter windshield sticker-chips. The US gov has secretly started using these chips to track people as far back as 2002.

I am not making this up. Melt down a high end Firestone, or Bridgestone tire and go through the bits near the rim (sometimes at base of tread) and you will locate the transmitter (similar to 'grain of rice' pet ids and Mobile SpeedPass, but not as high tech as the tollbooth based units). Sokymat LOGI 160, and Sokymat LOGI 120 transponder buttons are just SOME of the transponders found in modern high end car tires. The AIAG B-11 Tire tracking standard is now implemented for all 3rd party transponder manufactures [covered below].

The US Customs service uses it in Canada to detect people who swap license plates on cars when doing a transport of contraband on a mule vehicle that normally has not logged enough hours across the border.

Photos of untamperable tracking chips before molded deep into tires! :
http://www.sokymat.com/index.php?id=94

the first subcontracter secretly hired for providing gear for bulk logging of tire RFID on highways in 2002 was :
http://web.archive.org/web/20021014102238/telemati cs-wireless.com/divisions.html

ALL USA cars can be radio tracked using the tires. Refer to tire standard AIAG B-11 ADC, (B-11 is coincidentally Post Sept 11 fastrack initiative by US Gov to speed up tire chip standardization to one read-back standard for highway usage).

The AIAG is "The Automotive Industry Action Group"

The non proprietary (non-sokymat controlled) standard is the AIAG B-11 standard is the "Tire Label and Radio Frequency Identification" standard

"ADC" stands for "Automatic Data Collection"

The "AIDCW" is the US gov manipulated "Automatic Identification Data Collection Work Group"

The standard was started and finished rapidly in less than a year as a direct consequence of the Sep 11 attacks by Saudi nationals.

All tire manufacturers were forced to comply AIAG B-11 3.0 Radio Tire tracking standard by the 2004 model year.

(B-11: Tire & Wheel Label & Radio Frequency ID(RFID) Standard)

http://mows.aiag.org/source/Orders/index.cfm?task= 3&CATEGORY=AUTOIDBC&PRODUCT_TYPE=SALES&SKU=B-11

(use google cache to glance at that link if you are a hacker, all access to that page is watched by the feds, as are orders.)

A huge (28 megabyte compressed zip) video of a tire being scanned remotely was at http://mows.aiag.org/ScriptContent/videos/ (the file is "video Aiagb-11.zip").
THAT LINK was still valid as recently as Feb 2004, long after my 2002 ignored warnings on slashdot. But in July 2004 died after feds saw my origianl warnings regarding T.R.E.A.D. act (RFID citizen tracking)

Here's a related video showing the RFID capability now installed into tires. Note that the manufacturer is programming the VIN number into the tires. It is only a matter of time before you will not be able to get tires installed without them programming the VIN number.

More infor here.

Here's a related video showing the RFID capability now installed into tires. Note that the manufacturer is programming the VIN number into the tires. It is only a matter of time before you will not be able to get tires installed without them programming the VIN number.

More infor here.

This episode casts some doubts on BVQI's validity as a certification service. Their site has no indication that they've ever revoked a certification. Their pitch to companies has no indication that a company can be refused certification. They don't even seem to pull expired certificates.

The auto industry takes ISO 9000 certification of their suppliers seriously. See these standards. Note all the discussion of "revocation", "probation", "non-compliance", and "re-audit". In that world, quality standards violations lose companies the ability to sell to auto companies.

I know that I will never buy a car with RFID tracking capabilities built into it!

The car might not, but the tires will always have them.

Here is the movies page mentioned above.
More details:
The work is about RFID tagging tires and/or wheels, for the purpose of air pressure monitoring systems.
The RFID to VIN association is described, but in the context of "avoiding false alarms" e.g. low-pressure signal from the next car over.
The AIAG is the Automotive Industry Action Group -- "We do what's right for the Automotive Industry!" -- the do very little to make it sound like their work is pro-consumer, and a lot to make it sound pro-industry.

RFID Tires

Imagine the possibilities... There's a video on that site for anyone willing to dig. I'd rather not slashdot it (28 megs). This technology was initially used to ship and track tires as a replacement to the old bar codes, but now, the boys in the tinfoil hats are detecting RFID activity on the freeways and border crossings...

Auto manufacturers are programming the VIN number into the tire at assembly. It is only a matter of time before this becomes a requirement.

I'm already so damned trackable that I don't honestly care about my car being slightly more trackable. I carry one or two cell phones, I use automatic toll collection systems when they're available, and I pay for nearly everything with American Express.

If the government starts using these tags, or the alleged tracking system, in unconstitutional ways, then I'll be concerned. If, however, they just make it so they can locate my car faster after it's been reported stolen, then I'm happy.

Like so much of government these days, the big problem is that they're not being open and honest with us.