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OK, happy to help. You see, it is currently illegal for a business to hire someone who is not allowed to legally work in the US. This is currently a crime. No new legislation needs to be passed in order for this to become illegal or get enforced. Now, I don't know how many drug dealers you've encountered throughout your life, but here's the thing: when your business model is predicated upon doing something illegal, that's something that we like to call "high risk." This business can actually get shut down and the owner fined or jailed just with one little old phone call. And, not only in theory either, it actually happens! (strange, I know, but true!)

So, what do you do if your business is being out-competed by someone committing a crime to run their business with an illegal workforce? You just pick up that little old phone on your desk, and call 1-866-DHS-2-ICE. And - just like that - no more competitor! And now you're sitting in high cotton and it's just little old you and you can charge whatever you want for your fantastic services.

Because it looks to me like it is a real problem.

And you're suggesting that there is currently no solution to this problem, right? And, not only that, but those 3.7% or so of workers who are unemployed (which is the lowest level that's been at since about 1970) are unable to find a job because the companies who hire illegal workers just straight up won't hire Americans also, right? Because, if they did, then your buddies in the unemployment line would be out there waiting to pick lettuce and tomatoes. Right? Therefore, let's spend a couple dozen billion dollars to build a giant wall. Am I following you so far?

Seriously, how exactly do you justify this being a "real problem" that "illegals" are stealing so many jobs when we have an unemployment rate that is lower than about 2/3s of Americans currently alive have ever seen?

How does that fit into the free market capitalism that made America great? If someone else can do the same job cheaper, hire them instead.

You mean to say, "If someone can be hired for slave wages and locked into a single-employer contract with no chance to move jobs rather than hiring people on an equal footing."

This is about as far from "free market capitalism" as it comes. The H-1B system deliberately alters the agreement and creates a semi-slave labor deliberately paying under-market wages.

And then there's all the fraud in the system. Including falsely inflated skills listings designed to keep anyone from successfully applying for the jobs later salted to H-1Bs with far less than the originally advertised qualifications. And of course the demand for H-1Bs rather than actual EB-5s where they would have legal right to leave for better employment if it was offered by another company.

Don't you dare use the term "free market capitalism", you fucking slavemonger. It's nothing of the sort.

Forgot to add this: you CAN work for your company if, and only if the company files an approved H-1B for you as an employee of that company as well. You can have multiple H-1Bs: no problem there. However, there are lots of hoops to jump through, and it is not easy. Not sure exactly what it takes, but if you are bringing in significant amounts of cash, why not hire an immigration attorney? See the AILA web site for more detaisl.

You're right, of course. My mistake was that I took your post to mean we should ignore the "600 organizations" simply because you saw it as a variation of "me and my friends say this".

I don't think the original poster's intent was to sway anyone to opposition of the act simply because 600 other organizations already do so. I believe he included the reference as a way to further lure people into checking out the the list of dissenters so that they could do the research for themselves.

At least, that's what I hope.

http://www.aila.org/contentViewer.aspx?bc=10,3080, 5940,9298

more than 600 hundred organizations oppose this just another side effect of attaching stupid bills to more important ones

If your employer is breaking the law, call the DOL, call the media, and call your mom.
This is from the American Immigration Lawyers Assoc site:
EMPLOYERS ARE REQUIRED TO
Protect wages: Employers are required by law to pay each H-1B employee a wage that is the higher of either the typical wage in the region for that type of work ("prevailing wage"), or what the employer actually pays existing employees with similar experience and duties.
Protect working conditions: Employers cannot use H-1B professionals to break a strike and must notify their U.S. workforce when hiring an H-1B professional. Employers cannot make the H-1B nonimmimgrants work under conditions different from their U.S. counterparts, including hours, shifts and benefits.
Recruit in the U.S. and not displace U.S. workers: Employers who use a lot of H-1Bs must first try to find U.S. workers before they can hire an H-1B. They also must attest that they are not hiring the H-1B if they have laid-off or displaced a similarly situated U.S. worker. Employers must attest to the above protections by affirmatively filing with the DOL and by maintaining a file available for public access.
Subject to penalties: Employers who fail to comply with DOL regulations may be subject to investigation, civil and administrative penalties, payment of back wages, and even debarment from participating in key immigration programs.

"...the employer has to prove that they cannot find a worker of equal skill in the US job market"

Not necessarily. This is from the American Immigration Lawyers Assoc:

"Employers who use a lot of H-1B workers must first try to find U.S. workers before they can hire an H-1B. They must also attest that they are not hiring the H-1B if they have laid off or displaced a similarly situated U.S. worker."

This requirement applies to employers who are "H-1B dependent"--meaning a certain percentage of their workers are H-1B. I don't know if Sun is in that category. And even H-1B dependent employers aren't necessarily required to "prove" anything--"trying" to find U.S. workers just means doing some recruiting.