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Re:Side Loading
Yes. You can sideload anything you want.
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TB devices are *so* expensive...
This is almost $30. Terrible...
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD463
Things will come down as the port becomes more wide spread.
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Re:Don't use iOS
And here for example is an cheap one that's still on the App Store.
http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/autoverbal-pro-talking-soundboard/id368727888?mt=8
Though I suspect the $299 that's been taken down has something that neither this nor your suggestions have that makes it both much more expensive, and subject to the patent lawsuit. Apparently the previous options were in the thousands of dollars price range.
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Re:What ever happened to due process
How much more complete do you want, other than the links on this page to the review guidelines?
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Re:Don't use iOS
Patents are a bitch and sideloading would be nice, but what's the alternative? Apple is pretty serious about accessibility and I assume they understand just as well that it's a problem in this particular case.
We are being told that Android is about freedom, that it's for people by people and so on. If Apple is so evil why do they deliver so much better on average in this field?
I love Linux, heck even my username is the name of that thing. Fortunately I don't need anything of that, but if I did I don't know if I could actually use Android.
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Re:Unfortunate Reality of Being a Linux User
No. The hard disk, memory, and any other parts accessible through access panels in the bottom of the unit are user-serviceable and swapping them out does not void the warranty of any laptop that I've ever heard of. Maybe an Apple machine, but certainly not a Thinkpad.
Not Apple either. I use third-party RAM and disks with Apple laptops so I've checked on this. According to this support article, they suggest removing third-party equipment as a diagnostic step, and they may charge you a service fee if you ask them for help and the third-party equipment was at fault...all seems reasonable. Nothing about permanently voiding the warranty.
IMHO neither doing anything to the software nor swapping out these sorts of components (as long as you swap them back in prior to RMA) should void your warranty, and other than whoever handled this particular RMA, I haven't heard differently.
TFA has an update saying that the purchase has been refunded, so it sounds like posting to Consumerist is a successful strategy for dealing with these kinds of problems. It's cheaper than getting a hard drive specifically to avoid this, it's better for the community as a whole (as it ensures manufacturers/retailers are publicly reminded when necessary that it's not acceptable to be Linux-hostile), and on average it's less work, although occasionally you might lose the reverse lottery. But there shouldn't be anything stopping you from using the hard drive swapping approach if you prefer it.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
What bad thing would happen if you ordered it from http://www.apple.com/ like I did this morning?
If I forgot it or misplaced it it would be a significant inconvenience. If I show up at a tradeshow, it will be over before the replacement dongle arrives.
The last time something like that happened to a coworker -- where he forgot some stupid video adapter dongle (mini-dvi is a pretty useless port to have on a laptop too), he ended up buying a new laptop, because at least he could get THAT the same afternoon, rather than wait 2 days for some special order rinky-dink dongle.
Do you *really* have a need to use wired ethernet *everywhere* you go?
No. If it was everywhere it would actually be easier to remember, albeit even stupider to have to carry around. But I move from client office to client office. Some have wifi, some don't. Sometimes the wifi is a more isolated "guest" network and I need wired to reach servers etc.
Also "Internet Sharing" in OSX works really well. I often make my macbook pro into an access point for other wifi devices. And I regularly go the other way too... to connect a wired desktop to the mac via ethernet to get it on the wifi.
I also use ethernet for large transfers and backups. Sure it works over wifi, but it works a LOT faster over the gigabit switch.
So while I don't use ethernet on my laptop every day, I do use it regularly.
When I leave the house I somehow remember to put on underwear and shoes, and if I need to take my laptop, I generally remember to take that too.
I love this silly argument that you've made a couple times now. You are saying that because its easy to remember to put shoes on before you go somewhere its therefore easy to remember some small occasionally used dongle that one may or may not need. Do you REALLY think that this is a valid line of reasoning?
I'm sure you've met countless people who have forgotten to bring something or other somewhere. Now compare that with how often someone has shown up naked having forgotten to get dressed.
Maybe just maybe some things are much easier to remember than other things.
and if I need to take my laptop, I generally remember to take that too. The dongle attached to it will be no different.
Why would the dongle be attached to it when i'm packing up to leave? What if I haven't used it for 3 days and its still dangling off the ethernet cable at the office? Out of sight. Out of mind. Unlike the laptop itself... or my shoes.
Don't bother pretending they are the same. They aren't.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
It's $29. Buy them one and expense it.
Buy it where? Just step outside and the hot dog vendor has them? Or do I have to drive halfway accross town to the one place that has 2 left in stock... and that's this year. 2 years from now its a special order part from another state.
What bad thing would happen if you ordered it from http://www.apple.com/ like I did this morning? I strongly suspect that Earth's axis would not shift were that to transpire. Mine will be in my
b) I don't have an obsession with not plugging things into the laptop. I have an obsession with not plugging things into other things that then themselves plug into the laptop, and having to carry these other things around with me everywhere I go, when i should be able to just plug things directly into the laptop.
Do you *really* have a need to use wired ethernet *everywhere* you go? And those places number in the thousands? When I leave the house I somehow remember to put on underwear and shoes, and if I need to take my laptop, I generally remember to take that too. The dongle attached to it will be no different. I generally take the power cable/brick too, which neither curves my spine nor loses the war for the Allies.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
You probably just want to stop posting shit till you know what you are talking about. All the links to Apple that you provide are to the non-Retina display models.
There are two retina display models. ($2199 & $2799). Both come with 8GB memory, configurable to 16GB. Both come with SSD (i.e. flash drives) as standard. And the more expensive one has 512GB in that SSD.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
The first system is very highly rated, and folks I know using that series of Lenovo are very happy with them.
What about it makes it a turd, pray tell? The lack of the apple logo, or unibody?
I note that you havent come up with any system that compares for less than double the price from the mac store. WHen i search for refurb'd 15" MBPs,
(here), the cheapest machine there is a
Refurbished MacBook Pro 2.2GHz Quad-core Intel i7
4GB (2 x 2GB) of 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM
500GB Serial ATA @ 5400 rpm
Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD Radeon HD 6750MAll for $1350, all which is handly trounced by the linked, brand new, $799 laptop I linked.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
Why dont you link the Mac you are referencing? Because the stock Macs listed on the apple website @ 1799 and 2199 do NOT come with 8GB RAM standard (its a several hundred dollar upgrade, or at least was 2 days ago), nor do they come with SSDs, and they have an inferior video card.
You say youve proven what i said to be BS, but you havent even linked this Mac that youre talking about. Here, ill save you the effort and link direct to the bog-standard mac configs:
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD103LL/A?
$1799, with ONLY 4GB of ram, NO ssd, (only a 500GB 5400RP drive), and a core i7 (which until 2 days ago was a distinctly inferior Sandy Bridge)If you want that 8GB (which you claim to be standard), you need to go up to their $2100 model:
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD104LL/A?
Except that they STILL dont include an SSD: That costs an extra $900, despite the availability of MUCH cheaper 512GB SSDs out there...
like the much esteemed Crucial M4 at only $414, which is once again 1/2 the price of the Mac hardware (despite it very likely being the same underlying hardware).For the things you claim to be standard (SSD, 8GB RAM, Ivy Bridge), you would need to shell out $3199, while I could get a comparable laptop at $1400 or less EASILY. By slapping an SSD into the lenovo, I would have that laptop for $1100.
Compare to this other offering from MSI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152349
Which not only comes with 8GB RAM, a 50% bigger drive stock, and an identical processor, but also has a substantially beefier video card (GTX 660 / 2GB vs the MBP's 650GT / 1GB).Listen, you can argue that you get other benefits with the MBP like higher maximum ram (but even thats not true, I can easily find laptops with 16GB maximum) or a better resolution, but the more you try to tack onto the MBP the higher that markup will be. I will lay down a wager that ANY configuration of MBP you can come up with, I can match for 1/2 the price (except for screen resolution). Please dont bother disputing this unless you have a link to the Mac store to back your statements up.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
Why dont you link the Mac you are referencing? Because the stock Macs listed on the apple website @ 1799 and 2199 do NOT come with 8GB RAM standard (its a several hundred dollar upgrade, or at least was 2 days ago), nor do they come with SSDs, and they have an inferior video card.
You say youve proven what i said to be BS, but you havent even linked this Mac that youre talking about. Here, ill save you the effort and link direct to the bog-standard mac configs:
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD103LL/A?
$1799, with ONLY 4GB of ram, NO ssd, (only a 500GB 5400RP drive), and a core i7 (which until 2 days ago was a distinctly inferior Sandy Bridge)If you want that 8GB (which you claim to be standard), you need to go up to their $2100 model:
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD104LL/A?
Except that they STILL dont include an SSD: That costs an extra $900, despite the availability of MUCH cheaper 512GB SSDs out there...
like the much esteemed Crucial M4 at only $414, which is once again 1/2 the price of the Mac hardware (despite it very likely being the same underlying hardware).For the things you claim to be standard (SSD, 8GB RAM, Ivy Bridge), you would need to shell out $3199, while I could get a comparable laptop at $1400 or less EASILY. By slapping an SSD into the lenovo, I would have that laptop for $1100.
Compare to this other offering from MSI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152349
Which not only comes with 8GB RAM, a 50% bigger drive stock, and an identical processor, but also has a substantially beefier video card (GTX 660 / 2GB vs the MBP's 650GT / 1GB).Listen, you can argue that you get other benefits with the MBP like higher maximum ram (but even thats not true, I can easily find laptops with 16GB maximum) or a better resolution, but the more you try to tack onto the MBP the higher that markup will be. I will lay down a wager that ANY configuration of MBP you can come up with, I can match for 1/2 the price (except for screen resolution). Please dont bother disputing this unless you have a link to the Mac store to back your statements up.
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Re:no 17" laptop???
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
There's this concept of a "mobile workstation", which is a device that is portable, but doesn't compromise so much as to impede features that are actually important to one's work. MacBook Pro was such a thing. Not anymore.
Which features that are actually important to your work are missing from the 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pros?
Also, note that "one", the fact that it's spelled and pronounced the same as the cardinality of a singleton set nonwithstanding, can have more than, err, umm, one referent. Not all "one"s work necessarily match your/em. work.)
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
Yeah, saving that few grams and the 0.1mm savings in profile height
Retina MBP: 2.02kg, 1.8cm. Non-Retina 15: MBP: 2.56kg, 2.41cm. Perhaps 540g is "a few" to you, but 2410-1800 != 0.1.
Apple fanbois: lack of a feature is a feature!
Rational people: lack of a feature that some particular person doesn't use much, in exchange for something they deem an improvement in other matters, is a net feature - e.g., the lighter weight might, for some people, reduce annoyance enough to more than compensate for what annoyance comes from the lack of an Ethernet port.
Now, some other person might use the Ethernet port all the time, and not care as much about the weight. They should, err, umm, buy the other model of MBP.
(But, hey, "some people might quite rationally find A better than B, and others might quite rationally find B better than A" isn't nearly as much fun as hotly and loudly arguing the total rulitude of {A, B} and the total suckitude of {B, A}....)
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
Yeah, saving that few grams and the 0.1mm savings in profile height
Retina MBP: 2.02kg, 1.8cm. Non-Retina 15: MBP: 2.56kg, 2.41cm. Perhaps 540g is "a few" to you, but 2410-1800 != 0.1.
Apple fanbois: lack of a feature is a feature!
Rational people: lack of a feature that some particular person doesn't use much, in exchange for something they deem an improvement in other matters, is a net feature - e.g., the lighter weight might, for some people, reduce annoyance enough to more than compensate for what annoyance comes from the lack of an Ethernet port.
Now, some other person might use the Ethernet port all the time, and not care as much about the weight. They should, err, umm, buy the other model of MBP.
(But, hey, "some people might quite rationally find A better than B, and others might quite rationally find B better than A" isn't nearly as much fun as hotly and loudly arguing the total rulitude of {A, B} and the total suckitude of {B, A}....)
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
Thanks, I stand corrected. I think this is nuts, though. If you're going to adapt Thunderbolt to Ethernet, at the very least have it be able to daisy chain more Thunderbolt devices, or give it two Ethernet ports... or... 100. This is a silly accessory... but I guess it is for a specific mobile purpose.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
The Thunderbolt to GigE adapter is $29 on the store right now.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD463ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
The sub-500 laptop you linked is a turd.
The other laptop is $799. Now I'm no math major, but that's a fair bit more expensive than "sub-$500."
So you provide a link to a single piece of shit that's sub-500, as well as a link that is over 50% higher than your stated "awesome" price point, as your supporting evidence that "there are so many awesome sub-$500 laptops floating around."
Please point me to a similar Mac that is less than double those prices.
I guess you've never heard of their refurbished systems. Any one of those would perform at least as well as the "Sub-500" turd you produced, and several of them will hold up quite well against the $800 (NORMALLY $1600, but steeply discounted for a short time, probably to sell off some excess inventory) laptop as well.
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Re:ethernet dongles (likely at added cost on $2k+)
Thunderbolt? Did I miss something? Is a USB dongle which you can buy new for $30 not fast enough?
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Re:on the other side of the coin
Ok, that's nice. So how much effort does it take to install those ports and how many average Mac users know about this stuff?
Its a wonderully implemented source based package manager that is ridiculously easy to install and use. On Snow Leopard, for example, after installing XCode, there's a few ways to install macports, either with a packaged binary installer (install it like any other installable package or application with the OS X Installer app, using the GUI and mouse/trackpad), or command line binary installer, or you can even download the source and build it using the command line:
curl -O http://distfiles.macports.org/MacPorts/MacPorts-1.8.2.tar.gz
tar xzvf MacPorts-1.8.2.tar.gz
cd MacPorts-1.8.2/
./configure
make
sudo make installOnce installed, there is a small learning curve but not if you've ever used command line for anything, and if you wish to use CLI as little as possible, there are graphical frontends available.
If you're looking to install something, like, say, virtualbox, and your $PATH is set up, typing:
port search virtualbox
will return
virtualbox @4.1.14 (emulators)
open source virtualization technology from OracleFound 1 ports.
Installing it is pretty easy...
sudo port install virtualbox
and macports determines dependencies and installs the port. There are switches you can use to force ports to build everything from source, or use binaries when available, or you can stick with the default without switches. Its a fairly decent and easy to use package management system, and all open source. Support is available on the web or on irc.freenode.net at #macports.
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Re:on the other side of the coin
Baloney.
(And in case you missed it, the HP actually has substantially better specs than the Macbook).While the pic is a year old, I would gladly take it as a challenge to beat any Macbook someone could link, for roughly 1/2 the price on PC hardware. For instance...
http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/302125
VS
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MD318LL/A?
Hey look, the lenovo is an Ivy bridge, while the macbook is still on Sandy bridge despite costing ~twice as much! Not to mention double the RAM, a vastly bigger drive, etc etc etc.If you think you dont get gouged to the bank and back by using a Mac, you simply dont know how to shop for computers.
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Re:What better/free alternative is there ?
It would be a pity to throw away a good piece of hardware because Java 1.6 and recent OSX API are not supported.
While I understand that the hardware still works, and that it was certainly good equipment when you originally bought it, it is still an 8-year old laptop. It's still functional, it certainly doesn't owe you anything, but you do need to consider what you actually have.
8 years ago would be 2004.... the tech specs are here: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP83
In the 15" model, you have an LCD at 1280x854. At absolute best possible configuration, you have 2GB of memory in it, and a 1.5GHz G4,
rounded out with an 80GB hard drive and a 64MB Radeon 9700M.While it's certainly usable for light computing uses, we need to keep in mind that the base configuration was 256MB of RAM, upgradeable to 512MB from Apple, which is extremely low by modern standards and may not be enough for a modern browser running some modern websites. We also need to consider that the processor is a single core 32-bit processor, and while it's running a RISC architecture it's still orders of magnitude slower than even the cheapest modern processor you can get today. It's also, by modern standards, an extremely low res screen, which would limit your ability to use it even for text processing.
Ultimately, it's your choice and your money, but I wouldn't consider using that system on a daily basis. When you can buy a cheap laptop for $350, and if you have a problem with Windows you can wipe it and install Linux free of charge (or BSD!), it really doesn't make sense to keep nursing an ancient laptop. Shame though it is to be considering retiring it, it's probably for the best.
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Re:on the other side of the coin
Linux works best when users don't know it's linux. Once you put it in front of consumers you're asking for trouble.
Linux works best when you don't expect your computer to be nothing more than a glorified TV/typewriter. The single most important feature of Linux is that it gives you power to solve complicated problems by combining very simple tools. You don't have to rely on somebody else to solve everything for you like on Windows or Mac.
Hmmm. There are FREE (and SUPPORTED!) tools for doing anything your peabrain can dream up on OS X.
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Re:A "Real computer"
Oh and there's the fact that Windows integrates nicely in to being centrally managed, and the iPad does not.
Oh and there's the fact that your biased editorial is wildly inaccurate.
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A "Real computer"
it can do all the things a real computer can (like run Matlab in the case of where I work).
Well why not use an iPad for that?
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Re:SUICIDE not good enough...
Actually, yes - my Mac does it automatically.
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Re:Tempest in a teacup?
But does it have hooks that allow it to communicate better with Windows? Or with MS's office suite? Private protocols?
Not that I know of. The EU anti-trust decision back in the day (to a large extent courtesy of Samba team) forced Microsoft to document all protocols it uses between products. To the best of my knowledge, that requirement is still in force today.
Aren't they already trying to prevent other phones from talking to Exchange?
Again, not that I know of. Most phones use ActiveSync (for the sake of push), which is publicly documented but patented, but it is licensed out for a reasonable (presumably; no-one complained so far, at least) fee to anyone who asks - at least I've yet to see a smartphone that didn't support it, regardless of the manufacturer and the OS. Certainly, both iOS and Android do.
Also, curiously enough, of late MS has been releasing a bunch of products on competing mobile platforms that interact with its enterprise intranet services. For example, a Lync client for iOS and Android.
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Re:Hmmm
Liar. Sales figures show that you are completely wrong. iPhones don't even figure in the top five. Pathetic.
Samsung lg l700 , ~9 Million
Samsung Galaxy S2 , ~6 Million
Nokia Lumia 900 , ~5 Million
HTC One X , ~2 MillionNewsflash, oh brave Anonymous: Apple sold THIRTY FIVE MILLION iPhones in the first three months of this year alone.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/04/24Apple-Reports-Second-Quarter-Results.html
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Re:Apple and Microsoft are one of the worst compan
They are the same company http://www.apple.com/ca/press/1997/08/AppleMicrosoft.html
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Re:"Extra box"?
Looks like there will be a box, here is a link from apple themselves:
http://images.apple.com/appletv/images/buystrip_hero.pngDid you just whoosh us?
Are you trying to be subtly humorous?
Or have you completely missed the fact that the little "Apple TV" picture you linked has been for sale for a couple of years and isn't the mythical Apple "Living Room Killer" device that the Jobsian disciples are fervently praying for?
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Re:"Extra box"?
Looks like there will be a box, here is a link from apple themselves: http://images.apple.com/appletv/images/buystrip_hero.png
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
-
Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
To the tune of "Let it snow":
When the docs are all old and dusty,
or the metal case is rusty,
don't blog or call rent-a-thug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When the coder throws an exception,
or your cell gets poor reception,
or crashes when you touch the rug,
file a bug, file a bug, file a bug.When they finally ship GM,
you might like for your app to still run,
'cause a million users' screams
can take away all of your fun.So when you're tired of all the whining,
and for robustness, pining,
quit being a stupid lug,
and file a buuuug, file a buuuuuuug, fiiiiiiile aaaaaaa buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug.Thanks. I'll be here all night.
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Re:Unprecedented Disclosure?
If anything they are better for the iOS platform than for OSX. If you are looking to secure your Mac then you better hope you are using Snow Leopard, because that is the latest OS which has a security guide.
Sure you can follow the guide and try to apply it to your Lion/Mountain Lion system, but you are going to run into issues eventually.
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Re:The important link
TFA also forgets an equally important links to prior security material released by Apple, which discusses the technical details and architecture contrary to what TFA suggests.
But then he could hardly claim the release was unprecedented, now could he.
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Re:The important link
TFA also forgets an equally important links to prior security material released by Apple, which discusses the technical details and architecture contrary to what TFA suggests.
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Unprecedented Disclosure?
Yes, Apple is so sneaky and secretive we never would have learned about the iOS security model without this unprecedented revelation. I feel so fortunate to live in the age of apple security enlightenment. If only there was some way to divine such special knowledge before this document was disclosed.
Security Starting Point for iOS
iOS Security Overivew
iOS Secure Coding Guide
iOS Security ReferenceThe list goes on
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Unprecedented Disclosure?
Yes, Apple is so sneaky and secretive we never would have learned about the iOS security model without this unprecedented revelation. I feel so fortunate to live in the age of apple security enlightenment. If only there was some way to divine such special knowledge before this document was disclosed.
Security Starting Point for iOS
iOS Security Overivew
iOS Secure Coding Guide
iOS Security ReferenceThe list goes on
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Unprecedented Disclosure?
Yes, Apple is so sneaky and secretive we never would have learned about the iOS security model without this unprecedented revelation. I feel so fortunate to live in the age of apple security enlightenment. If only there was some way to divine such special knowledge before this document was disclosed.
Security Starting Point for iOS
iOS Security Overivew
iOS Secure Coding Guide
iOS Security ReferenceThe list goes on
... -
Unprecedented Disclosure?
Yes, Apple is so sneaky and secretive we never would have learned about the iOS security model without this unprecedented revelation. I feel so fortunate to live in the age of apple security enlightenment. If only there was some way to divine such special knowledge before this document was disclosed.
Security Starting Point for iOS
iOS Security Overivew
iOS Secure Coding Guide
iOS Security ReferenceThe list goes on
... -
Unprecedented Disclosure?
Yes, Apple is so sneaky and secretive we never would have learned about the iOS security model without this unprecedented revelation. I feel so fortunate to live in the age of apple security enlightenment. If only there was some way to divine such special knowledge before this document was disclosed.
Security Starting Point for iOS
iOS Security Overivew
iOS Secure Coding Guide
iOS Security ReferenceThe list goes on
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The important link
The most important link missing from TFS is iOS_Security_May12.pdf