Domain: aria.com.au
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Comments · 19
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Re:Confounding factors
ARIA produces some "top charts" in Australia, here's how.
This is much better than what they used to do many years ago: rely on distribution figures (that is, how many unit were shipped this week.) I still don't think they reflect much except the skills of advertisers.
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Re:What a typical waste
Indeed. I wish I could go back in time to trademark the (very non-common) word AppleIBMfoxfiremicrosoftatariactivisionsonygamestop.
As a bonus you can sue the Australian arm of the RIAA because your trademark contains the string "aria".
http://www.aria.com.au/ -
ARIA
Let's hope the primary schools are up to date with their ARIA license fees!"
Never let a fact get between a geek and his meme.
ARIA doesn't take money from the primary schools. ARIA licenses recorded music for commercial use in pubs, restaurants, dance halls and so on.
Licensing FAQs - What sort of sound recording reproductions is ARIA able to license?
We DO NOT license reproductions in the following circumstances:
Anyone wanting to put together a product/compilation for sale to the public (this includes all retail stores, market stalls, etc);
Any compilation /product to be created for branding, promotional or training use;
A DJ or any other person wishing to use a sample of a commercially released sound recording in their mix or any person wanting to create mix-tapes or remixes;
The reproduction of sound recordings for use in a film, DVD or video;
The use of sound recordings for theme music, promos or in a dramatic context in television productions;
The reproduction of sound recordings for use in any advertisements or commercials;
The reproduction of sound recordings for use as "walking on" or "walking off" music at seminars or conferences;
Music for use at wedding ceremonies or other public events;
Any person wanting to make a "back-up" copy of their album, CD or cassette;
Any person wishing to make a copy of a sound recording for a friend;
Any person wanting to set up a business where the customer details which sound recording they would like on a CD and the business puts the required sound recordings onto a CD and sells the product to the customer. This is considered the retail sale of a compilation CD;
Any person who wants to set up a business where they convert sound recordings into another format for customers (e.g. converting vinyl records into CD format for customers;
ALL reproductions of sound recordings downloaded from unauthorised internet sites;
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Re:Who Do You Pay?
1) Who do you pay?
You need to look at the list of participating ARIA members
Basically, ARIA just say "you need a license to play any music*", and then the hidden * is ".. the copyright for which is owned by a participating ARIA member".
2) The real question (to my mind) is, is such a license required at all? Format shifting is specifically allowed under Australian copyright law since the Copyright Amendment Bill of 2006, as long as its for "private and domestic use". I assume "domestic" in this context means "inside the home". I haven't read the actual legislation (yet).
3) ARIA will do what they always do - wait until violation is brought to their attention (I assume this happens less and less) or through their active enforcement measures (eg, they, or some other entity, have people wandering around looking for shops that play music that don't have a license sticker in the window). -
Re:Don't buy into this...
As it currently stands in Australia, DJ's don't ever have to pay any royalty/licensing issues...
Its all managed by the Club/Event Production Managemnent. (ala the Companies responsible for running said event).
ARIA is simply trying to "Double Dip", as they already receive a 'licensing payment' based on the number of people who could potentially hear the music.
ref: http://www.aria.com.au/pages/licensing-faq.htm
As what music they cover ~ well they claim to represent "all music", regardless of the genre/nationality/copyright... and the Australian Government supports this view.
From personal experience, i was invloved with touring a Swedish Electronic Music Group thru Australia ~ where the group were signed to their own label, which they OWNED.
ARIA still claimed we owed them licensing payments for any music heard from the Swedish Group... WHICH WAS THEIR OWN MUSIC!!
Try being an unsigned garage band in Australia who write their own music, who decides to put on a "free concert" to promote themselves.... better watch out, ARIA will come calling, and they will find you. -
Re:public performance.Why are you trying to change the meaning of the article? It says they specifically pay for format shifting, as does the frikkin ARIA website.
From TFA:Yep, they need to pay a licence fee to copy music they already own legally to their iPods, laptops, or compilation CDs.
From the FAQ on the ARIA website:What sort of sound recording reproductions can ARIA license?
... A DJ wanting to put sound recordings from his various albums on to a single source (computer hardware) for ease of use, and as a back-up in case originals get lost or stolen.
And regarding fair use, it does exist for private persons:Under legislation passed in late 2006, you no longer need permission, under limited circumstances, to make a copy of a CD or a digital download that you own for your private and domestic use for use on a different device.
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Re:Scare tactics as usual
The logic is quite erronious: labels have been losing sales not due to competition/substitution from downloads, but from a lack of new, fresh product to sell.
Actually, even that is erroneous (or, at least, not backed up by the facts). ... Sales would drop even with zero downloading.
A couple of days ago, ARIA were feeding the "OMFG! Illegal downloads are ruining the poor, struggling, defenceless record industry in Australia" line to the media, and the media were dutifully repeating it far and wide. But anyone who actually took the time to read ARIA's own press release learned a different story : the value of CD sales fell 5%, but actual sales rose by 8%! Not to mention the whole wholesale market - CDs, downloads, and god knows what else they count (ringtones?) - rose by a whopping 27%!
(Thoughtful aside: when the media in this country can't even report a fuckin' press release properly, how are you supposed to believe anything else they tell you???
But I won't turn this into a rant against the Australian media industry. I did that yesterday... ;-) -
Re:What apple should do next...
Ask the ARIA.
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Foreign counterparts boycott
The rest of the world ignoring the Recording Industry Association of America would have such a huge impact
Take Australia for example. The major RIAA labels (Sony, Warner, Universal, EMI) are also in the ARIA.
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Re:Quantity not quality ?Well, you could always take a look:
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CRIA, RIAA and other acronymsDoes anyone else think the Recording Industry Association of America missed an obvious acronym when they failed to name themselves the American Recording Industry Association?
Too late, Australia's got it now
:-)Or maybe these guys just beat them to it...
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Re:MIPI?
MIPI - Music Industry Piracy Investigations
This seems to be an organisation set up by ARIA Australian Recording Industry Assoication (equivalent to the RIAA) to hunt down commie thieving file traders.
The ACCC lists the MIPI website as ARIA's. and ARIA have come out in support of the bully boy tactics that MIPI have been using. In fact, ARIA's CEO has listed himself as the contact on their press release on this issue ARIA News and was nice enough to give his mobile number(cell phone) as the contact number - 0422 604 668.
BTW A bit of trivia. His name is Stephen
... the AU EDT time zone is GMT +10 and Australia's international phone country code is 61 (remember to drop the zero.) - its now 10:50pm so best wait for a couple of hours to make sure that he is well asleep.I wonder if you can
/. a phone... -
Re:MIPI?
MIPI - Music Industry Piracy Investigations
This seems to be an organisation set up by ARIA Australian Recording Industry Assoication (equivalent to the RIAA) to hunt down commie thieving file traders.
The ACCC lists the MIPI website as ARIA's. and ARIA have come out in support of the bully boy tactics that MIPI have been using. In fact, ARIA's CEO has listed himself as the contact on their press release on this issue ARIA News and was nice enough to give his mobile number(cell phone) as the contact number - 0422 604 668.
BTW A bit of trivia. His name is Stephen
... the AU EDT time zone is GMT +10 and Australia's international phone country code is 61 (remember to drop the zero.) - its now 10:50pm so best wait for a couple of hours to make sure that he is well asleep.I wonder if you can
/. a phone... -
Re:MIPI?They are affiliated with ARIA (Australian Recording Industry Association) and funded by record companies. So we are talking about a raid by a private organisation. Bizarre. Their contact details (if anyone fancies dropping them a line, ahem) are here
The ARIA press release is available here if anyone wants evidence that FUD isn't confined to Microsoft and SCO.
So in essence the MIPI is an organisation set up by the music industry to investigate alleged music piracy. I would have thought that carrying out the raid would have been the responsibility of the police or other government agency, rather than an industry association, but apparently jackboots are more freely available here than I thought (Godwin's Law notwithstanding).
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Re:Linking should and shouldn't be illegal
sites like this exist only to allow me to make use of my protected right to a backup.
Er, not in Australia.
Real, law-abiding people getting screwed by the RIAA (or its AU equivalent) legal machine does not make sense.
The Oz equivalent to the RIAA is the ARIA. -
Re:RIAA?
Slashdot these people: ARIA - Australian Recording Industry Association
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Re:In case of /.'ing
Yeah, they're just a member of ARIA instead. Same thing penis-faced bastards, different letter order. I don't think ARIA's sued anybody itself, but FOX has sued Scour and a couple other programs on it's own from time to time. Sorry for the crushing intrusion of reality, but FOX owns it's own legion of crappy pop cutouts, they're not going to try and bring anybody down. Since Direct TV being what it is didn't turn down FOX's hard-on to merge with them, I think I can continue burning effigies of Rupert in my bathroom without feeling guilty.
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Re:Small world
When RIAA comes to town in Australia, for instance, we do it the other way around.
Australia actually has its own version of the RIAA.
I doubt music piracy is a real issue there (at the moment) as broadband is limited/expensive and as a result most users are on dialup (either by choice because they dont justify the costs OR no options).
But yes - it will happen soon. -
Re:He copied a cd?I'm not really sure The Oz Copyright Council is the most balanced source of information given the organisations affiliated with it - consisting of such delightful organisations as The Australian Record Industry Association (the Australian equivalent of RIAA).
They very much fail to make clear that breach of copyright is only a criminal offence when the breacher makes money out of it (or breaches "to an extent that affects prejudicially the owner of the copyright" - quote from the law). Any other breaches are simply civil offences (in general much less rewarding in Australia when compared to the US). [how large a breach needs to be before affecting the owner prejudicially has never been tested in the courts here to the best of my knowledge]
They also don't make mention of the right to back up software - a right which has been supported by the Australian Competition and Consumer comission when they supported the right to sell Playstation modchips.