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after all, we couldn't have any of the Beatles' material get into the public domain, could we?

Yes -- we wouldn't want more artists to expand on their work. This would take away, diminish, undermine and otherwise dammage the Beatles.

Afterall, it couldn't possibly bring a whole new generation to listen to their work?

Since we're on the subject of remixes, I think it's important to point out that many remixes are not legal. The folks at http://www.downhillbattle.org/ are working to let mixers into the ballgame, so to speak.

Also from the folks at downhillbattle.org comes http://bannedmusic.org/ which distributes some music that has been banned for copyright reasons (mixes and sampling). Included are the Double Black Album (Metallica's black album mixed with Jay-Z's black album) and the Grey Album (Beatle's white album mixed with Jay-Z's black album). There is much more stuff there, too, so check it out if you're into music advocacy.

for those who don't know, the grey album is a remix record using beats from the beatle's white album with vocals from jay-z's black album it's available at http://www.bannedmusic.org/ and is hosted by http://www.downhillbattle.org/. DJ Dangermouse was the DJ who made this mix.

There's an easy-to-use wrapper for bit torrent available here. It allows grandma to simply click once on a link and download the torrent... even if she didn't have bit torrent installed.

Well, did they try using the cool BannedMusic wrapper? http://bannedmusic.org/download_system.php

I've experienced the same blockage with non-techy friends and bit-torrent. I noticed that bannedmusic.org has some kind of bittorrent wrapper that is supposed to make bit torrent easier to use...

The guys at BannedMusic.org are using a similar system to make it simple to use BitTorrent. This combination of technologies could be the kick in the butt that Open Source needs to reach the mainstream.

A quote:
The best solution seemed to be a simple modification of BitTorrent: an installer that runs BitTorrent and begins download of an included torrent file. Windows users can click on the "Easy Download" button on an album's download page to get a 3mb executable. When they launch this executable it installs BitTorrent (which happens very quickly in the background) and immediately begins downloading the album they were seeking. After they've used the "easy download" once, they can simply click on the .torrent files to begin downloading. And they'll be able to use other sites that require BitTorrent.

"Bannedmusic.org"? - check out the torrent links:

http://bannedmusic.org/albums/WindowsXP-KB835935-S P2-ENU-exe.torrent

I mean - wow - that just exudes legitness doesn't it? Way to go guys! Hope you enjoy the lawsuit!

I think that we need to go back to mass f2f (friend to friend) trading of bootlegs and cassette tape copies, you know, get a whole group (like 500 or so.) of people to burn a cd or tape, get off of their computers, and meet in a public place and just trade with each other, or just do it like we did in the early 90s when America discovered Grunge (Nirvana, Perl Jam, etc) from friend to friend through a combination of word of mouth and cassete copies. I think the RIAA wont even touch this with a ten foot pole. Of course, I can sort of imagine little music riots if the RIAA does try to touch it with said pole. P.S. There are plenty of bands who are willing to sell you their music. Try them. Also, for the more daring there is a place to go for some choice tracks.

BannedMusic.org made a BitTorrent wrapper that installs the application and then automatically launches the download, they call it an "easy downloader" and have instructions and a script for sites that want to make their own. Makes it a *lot* easier for sites to give out big files to non-techy audiences.

BannedMusic.org made a BitTorrent wrapper that installs the application and then automatically launches the download, they call it an "easy downloader" and have instructions and a script for sites that want to make their own. Makes it a *lot* easier for sites to give out big files to non-techy audiences.

The only reason iTunes has DRM in the first place is because the major labels insist on it: they like their paying customers to have more restrictions than the folks that are getting it for free, makes sense right?

Every fumbling attempt the record companies make to control and restrict music blows up in their face. Case in point, the new, bannedmusic.org which is using a BitTorrent installer packaged with a specific torrent to spread music that's run afoul of the current copyright regime. They could have made money licensing this stuff, but now there ain't nothin they can do about it.