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Comments · 18
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Re:Browsers need to fix tracking
Believe it or not, IE actually has an excellent anti-tracking mechanism built in (existed since v8, better by far in v9 though). It's called InPrivate Browsing on IE8, and Tracking Protection on IE9+. By default, once you enable it, it tracks what resources have crossed a certain threshold for number of requests across third-party sites. In other words, every time you go to foo.com and it contains an image tag for http://bar.com/transparentpixel.gif, IE increments a counter for that image. Once the counter reaches a certain threshold (defaults to 10, but configurable) the browser stops respecting any requests for that URL. This also works for things like scripts and such. Essentially, it's heuristic-based anti-tracking.
There are obvious limitations to this approach. For one thing, you can still be tracked up until the threshold is reached. For another, since it's URL-based, you can fool the heuristic by making different sites request different URLs (although I believe it ignores the querystring and fragment, so you would have to assign different paths). You may want to allow ads on certain sites, but this system also makes a pretty effective ad blocker. Finally and most importantly, there are legit third-party resources used by many sites (think about the big JS libraries, or PayPal donation buttons, or certain SSO widgets). Fortunately, there are counters to all of this.
1. Set a lower threshold. Mine is set to three, and that works fine.
2. Although it requires manually (or programmatically) editing the blocklist, the filter supports wildcards just fine.
3. You can turn off the feature on a site-by-site basis (it's actually controllable right from the nav bar, just a couple clicks to toggle).
4. The filter UI also supports whitelisting specific URLs (or wildcards, though again that requires manual editing).As of IE9, the filter also supports subscribing to "Tracking Protection lists" which contain blacklist and whitelist definitions. These supplement the heuristic (or personally customized) filter list, but don't override it; a locally-specified behavior always takes priority over one from a subscribed list. EasyList, the most popular choice for AdBlock Plus, offers both a pure tracking-protection list for IE9, and a full ad-blocking list.
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Re:Call it what it is
Will this cause people to no longer see this custom 'page not found', and replace it with their own? Because if so, that'd piss me off.
That would depend on the typo. Mistyping http://www.bar.com/index.html as http://www.bar.com/index.htm would still go to your site, assuming you own bar.com. Mistyping as http://foowww.bar.com/index.html, would presumably be redirected if you don't have a DNS record for `foowww.bar.com'.
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Re:Call it what it is
Will this cause people to no longer see this custom 'page not found', and replace it with their own? Because if so, that'd piss me off.
That would depend on the typo. Mistyping http://www.bar.com/index.html as http://www.bar.com/index.htm would still go to your site, assuming you own bar.com. Mistyping as http://foowww.bar.com/index.html, would presumably be redirected if you don't have a DNS record for `foowww.bar.com'.
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Re:Call it what it is
Will this cause people to no longer see this custom 'page not found', and replace it with their own? Because if so, that'd piss me off.
That would depend on the typo. Mistyping http://www.bar.com/index.html as http://www.bar.com/index.htm would still go to your site, assuming you own bar.com. Mistyping as http://foowww.bar.com/index.html, would presumably be redirected if you don't have a DNS record for `foowww.bar.com'.
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Re:Read the spec first
I've never had any problems buying cold medicine without ID, but then, I'm Irish, not American. (Hint:
.ie = Ireland).
The only 'single point of failure' here is the protocol, which has been studied. Examine it for weaknesses.
Same problem as for, eg. SSL. Are you advocating multiple protocols?
Govt insisting on one trackable OpenID: yes it is rediculous. You need to think the protocol through.
I connect to a website https://www.foo.ie./ Do something. Then I connect to https://www.bar.com/
foo.com and bar.com may communicate, using encrypted comms.
For the (US) govt to even know that some OpenID is involved means reading all the encrypted communications.
Insisting that the openid I have at foo.ie authenticate against a govt server', how?
foo.com is my server in Ireland. No jurisdiction.
Not only can you get plenty of openid accounts outside the US (or wherever), any attempt to enforce one
openid will backfire. The protocol specifically allows sites to reject 'valid' openids.
Just because you have a valid openid 'gov.us/John.Smith' doesn't mean it will be accepted by my website:
I can reject you saying "Please get a non-government ID; free IDs available at https://overseas.com/"
And I will do so. I am not beholden to the US government, and neither is the internet. -
Re:Stupid or misquoted?
The thing is, couldn't this level of functionality have been achieved with a single dialog? Something like: "Warning! Microsoft cannot assure the legitimacy of this software: If you wish to install foo.exe from http://www.bar.com/ please enter your user account and password below, and press "Continue". I don't think it's reasonable to complain about MS attempting to provide security, but if the same functionality can be achieved with fewer dialogs, and a well written explanation, isn't some criticism valid? The more dialogs needed to get things done, the more likely people will either entirely avoid that functionality, or mindlessly click through without assessing the ramifications.
I don't know exactly what's going , since I don't work in that group. I have noticed that sometimes there's just one dialog, and sometimes there are multiple.
My guess is the following. A warning pops up for each "check" of security. For example, if you try to install some new software, it will display a warning. Now, if this new thing that you're attempting to install, tries to do something above-and-beyond what normal software should be able to do (try to contact resources over the Internet, write files to secure areas of the OS, etc.), then that's when it prompts another warning. And so on.
If that's indeed what it's doing, then arguably, that's probably the right thing to do. Sure, warn me once if I'm installing some software. It'll set itself up in the sandbox environment. But if it tries to do something more than it should (play outside the sandbox) ... then I ought to be warned again. However, if the software is written adequately, then there's no need for it to try to do more than it should, so then I'd only get the one initial warning. -
Re:Stupid or misquoted?
The thing is, couldn't this level of functionality have been achieved with a single dialog? Something like: "Warning! Microsoft cannot assure the legitimacy of this software: If you wish to install foo.exe from http://www.bar.com/ please enter your user account and password below, and press "Continue". I don't think it's reasonable to complain about MS attempting to provide security, but if the same functionality can be achieved with fewer dialogs, and a well written explanation, isn't some criticism valid? The more dialogs needed to get things done, the more likely people will either entirely avoid that functionality, or mindlessly click through without assessing the ramifications.
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Server-side redirection
I've had success using a simple server-side script that simply sets the 'Location:' header to an e-mail URL such as mailto:foo@bar.com. The advantage is that the e-mail address is not in the client-side code at all. Does anyone know if spam bots are able to harvest redirects like this?
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Re:URL? URN? URI? Email? Username? Login? Identity
Not necessarily. The OpenID client can look at your URL and fetch the link tag just as easily:
mailto:foo@bar.com -> http://bar.com/ -> http://bar.com/openid/server
Or if you like, leave off the mailto: entirely, like you can with the http:/// and have the client assume user@host means "go fetch the OpenID server from the top level host." -
Re:URL? URN? URI? Email? Username? Login? Identity
Not necessarily. The OpenID client can look at your URL and fetch the link tag just as easily:
mailto:foo@bar.com -> http://bar.com/ -> http://bar.com/openid/server
Or if you like, leave off the mailto: entirely, like you can with the http:/// and have the client assume user@host means "go fetch the OpenID server from the top level host." -
Re:URL? URN? URI? Email? Username? Login? Identity
Not necessarily. The OpenID client can look at your URL and fetch the link tag just as easily:
mailto:foo@bar.com -> http://bar.com/ -> http://bar.com/openid/server
Or if you like, leave off the mailto: entirely, like you can with the http:/// and have the client assume user@host means "go fetch the OpenID server from the top level host." -
Re:The winner is foo@bar.com
I've been using foo@bar.com for as long as I can remember.
I once read an article about the guy who owned the domain bar.com, and the amount of e-mail that would be sent to the mailbox "foo". He didn't seemed too bothered by it, so I kept using foo@bar.com.
It seems that he has moved on though. I'd love to have the sub-domain foo.bar.com (It used to be there).
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Re:The winner is foo@bar.com
I've been using foo@bar.com for as long as I can remember.
I once read an article about the guy who owned the domain bar.com, and the amount of e-mail that would be sent to the mailbox "foo". He didn't seemed too bothered by it, so I kept using foo@bar.com.
It seems that he has moved on though. I'd love to have the sub-domain foo.bar.com (It used to be there).
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foo@bar.com
I'm sure that someone at The Grill Store and More really appreciates me.
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Re:Linking to the site and the story
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foo@bar.comI often use foo@bar.com for random sites that require registration. I checked out bar.com and discovered that's it owned by some sort of domain squatter who "really meant to use all those domain names." Plus, mail to bar.com bounces for lack of proper mail handling. So I think that's a pretty good alternative.
Of course, that one's often already been used at a site, but not as often as you'd think.
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foo@bar.comI often use foo@bar.com for random sites that require registration. I checked out bar.com and discovered that's it owned by some sort of domain squatter who "really meant to use all those domain names." Plus, mail to bar.com bounces for lack of proper mail handling. So I think that's a pretty good alternative.
Of course, that one's often already been used at a site, but not as often as you'd think.