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the anti vaxers are smart. they pick up on the lies. they know medical professionals lie to promote their businesses. it's a business not medicine. this has resulted in medicine science being mostly entirely fraudulent propaganda, statements made by the medical profession without facts or scientific basis.

I have knowledge that vaccines are mostly a for profit system. doctors like them because so many visits to their offices are forced by pro vaccine legislature backed by billions of dollars in profits. they like to use a psychological warfare tactic to disarm the public who feels wronged by the profiting and forced medical procedures.

the same issue effects psychiatry. psychiatry is largely debunked by the industries own medical science but you never hear about it from them. they profit off abducting healthy children and adults into mental hospitals, for profit group homes, where mental health care is not provided only forced medication injections.

take a look at these four sites. even the United Nations special Reporter on health and torture is asking the United States to stop. http://www.psychrights.org/ http://www.madinamerica.com/ http://www.mindfreedom.org/ http://www.cchr.org/ http://www.wayneramsay.com/

the medical science behind psychiatric drugs proves the drugs cause severe brain damage, induce psychosis and mental disorders, prevent recovery, induce suicides and homicides, cause 25 years of life expectancy to be reduced, kill between 1 in 3 and 1 in 2 within 17 years of the neuroleptics, kill 500,000+ elderly alone yearly, do not treat any mental disorder but serve to tranquilize and chemical lobotomize only, etc. yet the standard practice when you sit down in front of any psychiatrist, MD, school counselor, or end up in the ER is for them to prescribe a drug to you knowing it won't help. sickening. maddening.

http://www.trumpsweapon.com/

FOTF2012 says
April 18, 2014 at 11:26 am

The Boris letter is misleading. Makes it sound like CCHR applied for and got a grant from Google in the sense of a monetary gift.

Pretty much anyone can set up a Google ad words account (https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/1704354?hl=en) and then learn how to manage the details (https://www.google.com/grants/details.html). Here are the basic qualifications: https://www.google.com/grants/....

One requirement is to be a 501(c)3, which CCHR is. You can search for them on GuideStar (http://www.guidestar.org/?gclid=CKDF0e2q6r0CFVKFfgodPrMAHA) and you get 38 results. Apparently CCHR sets up separate entities in each state — maybe they have to as a charity.

One of the Google Ads program restrictions is that you can only link to one legitimate website. So I imagine they will link to http://www.cchr.org/.

Anyway, this “grant” is something that any “non-profit” can use. It is nothing significant Google has given CCHR specifically. It is part of a program that no doubt profits Google while they can say they are helping non-profits. Further, given the eligibility criteria (which CCHR meet), if Google were to deny CCHR use of the program, they would be in a lawsuit and would probably lose.

Actually, lots of different drugs will blunt 'nervous reactions'. Antidepressants, anti anxiety drugs, opiates, marijuana, some blood pressure meds, television.

You can drug someone to the point where nothing bothers them.

Supposedly, this is used by suicide bombers as well.

Better living (or not) through chemistry!

"If there is no valid test for ADHD, no data proving ADHD is a brain dysfunction...why in the world are millions of children, teenagers and adults...being labeled with ADHD and prescribed drugs?"

- Dr. Mary Ann Block, author of No More ADHD

"Psychiatric Drugs & Your Child's Future

I found a free version of their $495 personality test here... https://www.cchr.org/

I'm still behind hounded to go in to discuss my results - which if you're interested, I have uploaded to imageshack. http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scientlol ogypq7.jpg

John Taylor Gatto makes some good points but lacks an understanding of the real hidden influence on Education and the technology that can be used to combat it. This is much more evil than it looks at first glance despite the best efforts of educators.

The problem:

http://www.cchr.org/topics/educators/index.htm

The answer:

http://www.appliedscholastics.org/

An example:

Taken from http://www.appliedscholastics.org/teach.php

TEACHING

If one wishes a subject to be taught with maximal effectiveness, he should:

1. Present it in its most interesting form.
a. Demonstrate its general use in life.
b. Demonstrate its specific use to the student in life.

2. Present it in its simplest form (but not necessarily its most elementary).
a. Gauge its terms to the understanding of the student.
b. Use terms of greater complexity only as understanding progresses.

3. Teach it with minimal altitude (prestige).
a. Do not assume importance merely because of a knowledge of the subject.
b. Do not diminish the stature of the student or his own prestige because he does not know the subject.
c. Stress that importance resides only in individual skill in using the subject and, as to the instructor, assume prestige only by the ability to use it and by no artificial caste system.

4. Present each step of the subject in its most fundamental form with minimal material derived therefrom by the instructor.
a. Insist only upon definite knowledge of axioms and theories.
b. Coax into action the student's mind to derive and establish all data which can be derived or established from the axioms or theories.
c. Apply the derivations as action insofar as the class facilities permit, coordinating data with reality.

5. Stress the values of data.
a. Inculcate the individual necessity to evaluate axioms and theories in relative importance to each other and to question the validity of every axiom or theory.
b. Stress the necessity of individual evaluation of every datum in its relationship to other data.

6. Form patterns of computation in the individual with regard only to their usefulness.

7. Teach where data can be found or how it can be derived, not the recording of data.

8. Be prepared, as an instructor, to learn from the students.

9. Treat subjects as variables of expanding use which may be altered at individual will. Teach the stability of knowledge as resident only in the student's ability to apply knowledge or alter what he knows for new application.

10. Stress the right of the individual to select only what he desires to know, to use any knowledge as he wishes, that he himself owns what he has learned.

-- L. Ron Hubbard

Fred Baughman is a medical expert for the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), a front group for Scientology. The site www.adhdfraud.com can most likely be considered a front for the front group CCHR.

The ridiculous sound-bites on the front page ("ADHD--total, 100% Fraud"?) immediately rang a bell with me, and the "commentary" page reeked of the irrational garbage typically spewed forth by the Co$/CCHR.

A quick google of "Fred Baughman" revealed a page at the CCHR's site by Dr. Fred, and a PBS interview from May 4, 2000. Nothing wrong with any of that, but why doesn't he disclose his affiliations on the front page?

The connection is made clearly edvient from this page, where Dr Baughman recommends the CCHR.

The poster is most likely either a Scientology shill (hello OSA!), or a common troll.

For more information on Scientology, see Operation Clambake, or for it's constant (and irrational and paranoid) war on the mental health profession, see for instance here.

Now, I won't say you shouldn't trust Dr. Fred as your doctor, but please, just be aware of his connection to a dangerous mind-control cult. And remember to always take all input with a huge glacier of salt, this post included.

oSlash

Sorry, this is the link to the rest of the publication.

Article and rest of the publication

ADHD, What They Aren't Telling You

I fully understand that you have a problem with your attention and I am not trying to say that you don't, but the question is whether taking the drugs you get prescribed by your doctor is the right thing to do if you weigh the benifits of the drugs against its negative side effects. The above links might help you make a more qualified decision about this, as I don't believe doctors tell the whole truth about ADHD and its drugs when they prescribe it.

Article and rest of the publication

ADHD, What They Aren't Telling You

I fully understand that you have a problem with your attention and I am not trying to say that you don't, but the question is whether taking the drugs you get prescribed by your doctor is the right thing to do if you weigh the benifits of the drugs against its negative side effects. The above links might help you make a more qualified decision about this, as I don't believe doctors tell the whole truth about ADHD and its drugs when they prescribe it.

Article and rest of the publication

ADHD, What They Aren't Telling You

I fully understand that you have a problem with your attention and I am not trying to say that you don't, but the question is whether taking the drugs you get prescribed by your doctor is the right thing to do if you weigh the benifits of the drugs against its negative side effects. The above links might help you make a more qualified decision about this, as I don't believe doctors tell the whole truth about ADHD and its drugs when they prescribe it.

Adverse side effects of Ritalin

Still don't believe me? Ritalin is a mental straitjacket

Quote:

"After years of prescription drugs, the progression to street drugs was almost a given â" a too often repeated consequence of Ritalin. For example, actress Jill Irelandâ(TM)s adopted son was given Ritalin for childhood âoehyperactivity.â She attributed this to his later use of cocaine and heroin. As did another mother, Faye Oâ(TM)Donnell, whose son was prescribed Ritalin and later continued it illegally, then took up âoecrankâ and speed because it made him feel âoenormalâ again. Cobainâ(TM)s battle with heroin addiction would become widely known over the years, as he repeatedly tried and failed to resolve his dependency."

Compounding the Ritalin were untreated chronic medical conditions which effected him his entire life â" including a curvature of his spine, which was aggravated by the weight of his guitar around his neck and a âoeburning, nauseousâ stomach that often drove him to feelings of suicide. In fact, Cobain praised heroin as the only drug that âoequenched the fire in his gut.â What nobody mentioned was that abdominal pain is a known side-effect of Ritalin intake by children.

Personally, I have ADD (the non-hyperactive, quiet type). I take DMAE, DMG, Ginseng, Flaxseed oil (has essential fatty acids), multivitamin/mineral supplement, mullein bark. If I had to choose only one of these I would choose DMG.

I completely abstain from eating sugar, processed foods (bread etc...), junk food, or wheat in any form.

I do eat Cold water fish like salmon, tuna and herring (they contain fatty acids) twice a week. I daily eat non animal and occasionally animal sources of protein. I eat raw oat with honey for breakfast, protein rich foods for lunch, and fruits and vegetables for dinner.

I used to drink a lot of coffee, but the "high" it gives you turns into a deep low mentally and physically. Maybe twice a week I have a cup or two.

For those days when I absolutely have to have perfect mental focus I have found that pseudoephedrine works excellently. But I have to be very careful because you can't take it everyday or every week.

I used to take Dexedrine. I am now on wellbuttrin for depression and it also helps with my ADD. It is like there is another world that is open to me.

I would STRONGLY question anything that a psychiatrist tries to give you, they are merely legal drug pushers, simple pawns of drugs companies. Seriously, the entire mental health complex is based on getting you to believe that there is something "wrong" with you. There is nothing wrong with you, your mind merely works differently. Einstein had ADD, some historians think Beethoven had ADD/ADHD, many very creative people have ADD.

After you start responding to medicine only go back every six months. Eventually in the future, by eradicating toxins and carcinogens and living a clean, healthy life and getting enough sleep and exercise, you may be able to stop taking prescription drugs.

www.cchr.org

[This is a serious question, please think before you moderate]

Could, anyone explain why we are going to Mars? Or, why we are even bothered taking pictures of it? What's the point of going to Mars, when most of the powers in this planet are at the brink of nuclear war? I don't see any short-term necessity to go to Mars. If anyone wish to give constructive remarks contrary, please feel free to do so. I understand the ghist of this site, but should we not worry about the amount of human lives being lost in the name of established religions that dictate nothing but outdated virtue?

Thank you.

Javid O'Hare.
Citizens Commission on Human Rights

Maybe the psychs can make up another disease to go with this (they have made up enough of them), so we can go after the recording companies like we do after drug cartels.

Musical Addiction Dependency, or some such thing.

These people need help with their music addictions!

(not)

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DISKEEPER USER STUNNED BY DENIAL OF TECH SUPPORT

Nancy Kelly, Digital News. Feb 4, 1991

Ciba-Geigy was refused technical support for its disk defragmenter after the supplier, Executive Software Inc., learned that the Swiss chemical company made Ritalin, a drug sometimes prescribed for hyperactive children.

Executive Software, maker of the dominant disk defragmenter for the VAX, Diskepper, objects to the production of Ritalin as a drug that is prescribed by psychiatrists. The drug has provoked controversy based upon some studies that document several cases of suicides among young adolescents who had been given the drug as children. The Physicians' Desk Reference indicates that the side effects of Ritalin withdrawal include paranoia with thoughts of
suicide.

The Glendale, Calif. software firm has a longstanding policy against selling its products to psychiatrists and psychiatric institutions. On Jan. 9 the firm's board of directors voted to expand that policy to include psychiatric drug manufacturers, after a company employee brought it to President Craig Jensen's attention that the makers of Ritalin had purchased a copy of Diskeeper.

"Ciba-Geigy ranks with the scum of the earth in my opinion," said Jensen.

"The primary effect of Ritalin is suicide. When some of our employees heard we sold our software to them, I agreed to cancel that license, if necessary, and refuse to do business with drug manufacturers in the future."

The U.S.-based Ciba-Geigy MIS manager who bought Diskeeper late last year is not part of the pharmaceutical division of the company, which has eight seperate divisions that produce products ranging from pigments to plastics.

He asked that he and his division not be identified. He said that he sought technical support when his employees ran into difficulty installing Diskeeper and that he was referred by the support staff to Dave Kluge [no relation- s.d.] Executive Software's corporate affairs manager.

He said Kluge told him Executive Software would not provide Ciba-Geigy with any technical support. "He told me 'You people make psychiatric drugs and implements of torture.'

"I said, 'You're kidding.' I thought he was putting me on.

"He said we're responsible for people taking these drugs and don't we know they commit suicide. I told him we have nothing to do with the pharmaceutical division but he said it was the company policy," said the Ciba-Geigy official.

Kluge sent the MIS manager a letter outlining Executive Software's policy and the means by which Ciba-Geigy could obtain a refund for its purchase.

Jensen told Digital News that Executive Software would honor its contractual obligations with Ciba-Geigy, which had purchased a 12-month update
service. However, it would not renew the service or the software once the agreement expired.

"Ciba-Geigy slipped through," said Jensen. "But I think someone should take a stand on this, and I'm willing to do so."

Meanwhile the Ciba-Geigy MIS manager, who had worked with Diskeeper at a previous job and had decided to purchase it after experiencing problems with a competitor's product is essentially without a disk defragmenter.

"There's no point in using it if this is what they are going to do," he said, referring to the eventual loss of technical support and upgrades. He also expressed dismay at Executive Software's stand on Ritalin.

"Thousands of kids can attend school because of Ritalin," he said. "Those parents thank us. There are problems with every drug on the market. It is up to the doctor to decide who it should be prescribed to."

According to two former Executive Software employees, the company's policy in part stems from Jensen's membership in the Church of Scientology. "He doesn't believe in anything that has to do with psychiatry because the church doesn't," said Michael Sigourney, president of Aviv Software Inc. and a former director of marketing at Executive Software. A second employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed Jensen's affiliation with the church, adding that, "The Church of Scientology is against the distribution of Ritalin to school
children. They're opposed to a variety of drugs."

In an October 1989 letter to his employees, Jensen detailed the company's policy in refusing to license software to psychiatrists or psychiatric institutions, stating that the policy reflected his own personal views.

That policy states in part that to do business with psychiatrists "would condone political mental treatment such as electric shocks, lobotomy and convulsive drugs. We condemn utterly this fascist approach to 'mental health' by extermination of the insane, and we will not agree to brutality and murder in the guise of mental healing or to the easy and lawless seizure of persons in the name of 'mental health' for political reasons."

The latter further elaborated that, to counter the action of some psychiatrists who purchase the product, Jensen personally donates "large sums" to organizations such as the Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, "which is doing an excellent job of documenting and publicizing psychiatric crimes."

The Citizens Commission on Human Rights was founded by the Church of Scientology in 1969 to protect individuals from psychiatric abuse. It frequently lobbies against the practice of frescribing Ritalin as a means to control hyperactive children.

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DISKEEPER USER STUNNED BY DENIAL OF TECH SUPPORT

Nancy Kelly, Digital News. Feb 4, 1991

Ciba-Geigy was refused technical support for its disk defragmenter after the supplier, Executive Software Inc., learned that the Swiss chemical company made Ritalin, a drug sometimes prescribed for hyperactive children.

Executive Software, maker of the dominant disk defragmenter for the VAX, Diskepper, objects to the production of Ritalin as a drug that is prescribed by psychiatrists. The drug has provoked controversy based upon some studies that document several cases of suicides among young adolescents who had been given the drug as children. The Physicians' Desk Reference indicates that the side effects of Ritalin withdrawal include paranoia with thoughts of
suicide.

The Glendale, Calif. software firm has a longstanding policy against selling its products to psychiatrists and psychiatric institutions. On Jan. 9 the firm's board of directors voted to expand that policy to include psychiatric drug manufacturers, after a company employee brought it to President Craig Jensen's attention that the makers of Ritalin had purchased a copy of Diskeeper.

"Ciba-Geigy ranks with the scum of the earth in my opinion," said Jensen.

"The primary effect of Ritalin is suicide. When some of our employees heard we sold our software to them, I agreed to cancel that license, if necessary, and refuse to do business with drug manufacturers in the future."

The U.S.-based Ciba-Geigy MIS manager who bought Diskeeper late last year is not part of the pharmaceutical division of the company, which has eight seperate divisions that produce products ranging from pigments to plastics.

He asked that he and his division not be identified. He said that he sought technical support when his employees ran into difficulty installing Diskeeper and that he was referred by the support staff to Dave Kluge [no relation- s.d.] Executive Software's corporate affairs manager.

He said Kluge told him Executive Software would not provide Ciba-Geigy with any technical support. "He told me 'You people make psychiatric drugs and implements of torture.'

"I said, 'You're kidding.' I thought he was putting me on.

"He said we're responsible for people taking these drugs and don't we know they commit suicide. I told him we have nothing to do with the pharmaceutical division but he said it was the company policy," said the Ciba-Geigy official.

Kluge sent the MIS manager a letter outlining Executive Software's policy and the means by which Ciba-Geigy could obtain a refund for its purchase.

Jensen told Digital News that Executive Software would honor its contractual obligations with Ciba-Geigy, which had purchased a 12-month update
service. However, it would not renew the service or the software once the agreement expired.

"Ciba-Geigy slipped through," said Jensen. "But I think someone should take a stand on this, and I'm willing to do so."

Meanwhile the Ciba-Geigy MIS manager, who had worked with Diskeeper at a previous job and had decided to purchase it after experiencing problems with a competitor's product is essentially without a disk defragmenter.

"There's no point in using it if this is what they are going to do," he said, referring to the eventual loss of technical support and upgrades. He also expressed dismay at Executive Software's stand on Ritalin.

"Thousands of kids can attend school because of Ritalin," he said. "Those parents thank us. There are problems with every drug on the market. It is up to the doctor to decide who it should be prescribed to."

According to two former Executive Software employees, the company's policy in part stems from Jensen's membership in the Church of Scientology. "He doesn't believe in anything that has to do with psychiatry because the church doesn't," said Michael Sigourney, president of Aviv Software Inc. and a former director of marketing at Executive Software. A second employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed Jensen's affiliation with the church, adding that, "The Church of Scientology is against the distribution of Ritalin to school
children. They're opposed to a variety of drugs."

In an October 1989 letter to his employees, Jensen detailed the company's policy in refusing to license software to psychiatrists or psychiatric institutions, stating that the policy reflected his own personal views.

That policy states in part that to do business with psychiatrists "would condone political mental treatment such as electric shocks, lobotomy and convulsive drugs. We condemn utterly this fascist approach to 'mental health' by extermination of the insane, and we will not agree to brutality and murder in the guise of mental healing or to the easy and lawless seizure of persons in the name of 'mental health' for political reasons."

The latter further elaborated that, to counter the action of some psychiatrists who purchase the product, Jensen personally donates "large sums" to organizations such as the Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, "which is doing an excellent job of documenting and publicizing psychiatric crimes."

The Citizens Commission on Human Rights was founded by the Church of Scientology in 1969 to protect individuals from psychiatric abuse. It frequently lobbies against the practice of frescribing Ritalin as a means to control hyperactive children.

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"Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable...of thinking or acting otherwise than their schoolmasters would have wished." --Bertrand Russell

Who do you think runs those schools, and for that matter, the whole system?

Check it out: http://children.cchr.org/eng/pdf/chil dren.pdf

The " Citizens Commission on Human Rights" is a Scientology front group. These people very tidily fit most reasonable definitions of "evil conspiracy". Don't trust them. Psychotherapeutic drugs are not a great blessing, but we do not need to replace them with fantastically expensive brainwashing about "body thetans". I'll take the drugs, thank you. At least those wear off when you stop taking them. And in any case, they vastly exaggerate the problem. Right now, an alarmingly high single-digit percentage of kids are on meds -- and the Scientologists want to replace that with one hundred percent being brainwashed by Scientologists. Yes, folks, this is not a joke. There's a real belly laugh in there, for those who aren't too sickened to laugh: They're claiming that psychiatry is out of control because it supposedly diagnoses too many people has having problems (single digits, remember); but Scientology, as a matter of doctrine, declares that literally everybody is badly screwed up, and that we all need many years of extremely expensive Scientological "treatments" to get ourselves "clean".

Do we need this?

Nope.