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Re:Soekris is what you want.
You can try out VIA C3 or Eden based solutions such as this one: http://www.computergate.com/products/item.cfm?pro
d cd=B7VEPIACL6
VIA http://www.via.com.tw/ makes excellent fanless CPUs and motherboards from 400Mhz upto 1+Ghz -
Re:That would work...
Do I go with a full distro that has everything and a jar of pickles or do I go with something lighter? More stuff, or less filling? Great taste or difficult installation?
My last pieces arrive today from computergate.com. I bought a case, mb, amd 2500xp and a dozen hard drive racks. Yes, a dozen. At 6.95 each (including both internal frame and actual drive housing) it was cheap and just takes the space of a cdrom. Now I have them setup on the box ready for OS testing. I have several old and some newer drives (3 x 1.6gb, a 20, a few 40s, 60, 10s, etc.) Now I just pop in a hard drive and boot up. I tested this on my 1700, and already have 98/2k dualboot, rh9, slack, bsd, gentoo, xp, and a few purely testing RH hard drives. Just shut down, swap out, and boot again. One platform to get drivers for, one monitor, one keyboard, lots of older parts. I also installed an extra ata controller, and put the cdburner as sec. master, so i have four masters and I can mount up to 2 other drives, mount and repair if I need to, using one of the 3 hd racks. Being all masters, I don't have to change jumpers.
This may seem like overkill, but actually its alot easier and faster for testing, debugging, experimenting and just having fun. Also, at $6.95 ($5.95 if you buy 4+) its also a cheap way to put those old hard drives to use. They have more expensive ones, but these were just fine and ATA133 compatible, including a built in HD fan. Even has a crappy lock/key. -
Re:price?Well you can put one together for yourself.
The Case is a mini itx case with a fan blow hole drilled and a low profile (probably U1) heatsink for the chip.
A motherboard that supports P4s in the mini-itx form can be found here, however I don't know any resellers... google it.
The rest is just laptop parts, but I really don't trust a 55W powersuply on a P4 so you might want to replace it with one here. My guess is that it will end up being $600-700 in parts so think about $1000 retail.
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Another alternative : MythTV is free and openThe modules are 249pounds. Which translates to about $500. Ouch. You can achieve similar functionality with http://www.mythtv.org and EPIA-M boards. I got the EPIA board from Fry's for $139 and this case : http://www.computergate.com/products/item.cfm?pro
d cd=HDRCM269BR for $72. The case is so small its hard to believe that its a computer case.See the mythv web page for more info on what it can do.
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Computergate usually has very low prices, but you need to know what you're getting. For instance for a brand name motherboard you'll do fine, and returns have never been a problem in my experience. They do have some no-brand cards and memory and cases that I've generally had good luck with - but not perfect luck.
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Re:How much cheaper can they really get?Modems are runing as low as $30 for comparison.
WinModems? They're much cheaper than that.
$10 for Intel chipset (not bad - I've used this one).
or about $3 for a $hitty HSP56 micromodem (for which I refuse to give a link, as it is such a pathetic product) -
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Re:Limited UsefulnessOK, plus minimum wage divided by 15 minutes.
$5.15 / 4 = $1.28
GOOD High School labor? $6 by 5 minutes.
$6 / 12 = $0.50
So you're already up around $2. Right in the same ballpark.
(Incidentally, I get mine pre-made for less than $1 each from my favorite vendor.) -
Re:What about Dual Durons?AMD Durons work in multiprocessor mode as well, and they're very, very close to Athlons in terms of performance (and obviously cheaper.)
Not so obviously. I upgraded my brother's PC two weeks ago, buying parts from my favorite online vendor. He's not a power user by any stretch (and in fact only upgraded from his K6-200 because it died on him). I spec'd a 900 MHz Duron (for the good price/performance) for $61. Before I finalized the order, I thought I'd check on what the T-Birds were going for. 900 MHz T-Bird: $59. I thought it was screwy, but I didn't complain.