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There is a group at my university's physics department working on a design for a cool planet detecting satillite. It is called BOSS. Check it out, cool stuff.

A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

ftp://davros.cwru.edu/pub/

Enjoy!

Ken

Check out BOSS an inlatible satillite. BOSS stands for Big Occulting Steerable Satillite. It will let you do things like directly view earth-like planets in orbit around stars from 5 Parsecs (18 lightyears) away.

A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

I am the original poster and a physicist. I have two problems with your point of view:

The fact is that there are many companies out there that fund basic research. They do it primarily because if a breakthrough occurs, they want to have people in-house that can help turn it into a working product.
Well, private companies do fund some a lot of "basic" research, but not all. Companies like IBM, Lucent (aka Bell Labs) and others do fund projects not directly applicable to makeing $$$, but the research they do fund is stuff that is somewhat related. ie, IBM funds projects in Solid State physics becuase if some breakthough occurs, it can easily be applied to make smaller, faster chips. Companies would not have invested in space just 25 years ago. The space program never whould have started without the government's push (and yes, the govenment pushed space because of the Cold War). Only now that space and satillites are established do companies send up things on their own.

You are also ignoring private charities and Universities. There are many private schools with hundreds of millions in endowments, and many of those do and would be used to fund basic research. These endowments would be even bigger in a society with a lower tax burden, since many wealthy people leave their fortunes to their alma mater. There are also private donations directly toward research programs.
No, this is wrong. I am at a private university. We do have a ~$1e7 endowment. it goes to scholarships, capital improvements, and makeing interest to maintain the endowment. As for the most basic of research in physics, no money for these projects come from private sources. I am talking about things like my research group's search for Dark Matter or another group's Big Occulting Steerable Satellite. Private companies do not and will not fund things like this because there are no even remotely visible dollar signs at the end of the research. The price tags on these (and other things like particle accelerators) are too big for private endowments. Only the govenment (or governments) is in a position to reasonably fund research as to how the universe works.

<rant>
What are ancient civilizations remembered for? Their scientific advancement. The Greeks with logic and math, the Mayans calanders and astronomy, the Chinese, gunpowder. What difference does it make in the grand scheme of things whether this battle was fought on Tuesday or Friday? Not a whole lot. The only thing that really lasts is the knowledge that we pass down to successive generations. This is the basic human drive. Why are we here? Where are we going? How did it happen? These questions are what make us human. This is why science is important. Science is the systematic attempt to glean meaning from the universe in an attempt to answer these questions. (Religion also attempts to answer these questions but it is usually not as systematic :-) and should really only be used to answer the questions that science cannot tell us). I am a relatively spritual and religious man, but religion cannot tell us where we evolved from just as science cannot tell us how to act morally.
</rant>

Disclaimer: This whole thing is of course my opinion, especially the last parenthetical sentence.

A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

I am the original poster and a physicist. I have two problems with your point of view:

The fact is that there are many companies out there that fund basic research. They do it primarily because if a breakthrough occurs, they want to have people in-house that can help turn it into a working product.
Well, private companies do fund some a lot of "basic" research, but not all. Companies like IBM, Lucent (aka Bell Labs) and others do fund projects not directly applicable to makeing $$$, but the research they do fund is stuff that is somewhat related. ie, IBM funds projects in Solid State physics becuase if some breakthough occurs, it can easily be applied to make smaller, faster chips. Companies would not have invested in space just 25 years ago. The space program never whould have started without the government's push (and yes, the govenment pushed space because of the Cold War). Only now that space and satillites are established do companies send up things on their own.

You are also ignoring private charities and Universities. There are many private schools with hundreds of millions in endowments, and many of those do and would be used to fund basic research. These endowments would be even bigger in a society with a lower tax burden, since many wealthy people leave their fortunes to their alma mater. There are also private donations directly toward research programs.
No, this is wrong. I am at a private university. We do have a ~$1e7 endowment. it goes to scholarships, capital improvements, and makeing interest to maintain the endowment. As for the most basic of research in physics, no money for these projects come from private sources. I am talking about things like my research group's search for Dark Matter or another group's Big Occulting Steerable Satellite. Private companies do not and will not fund things like this because there are no even remotely visible dollar signs at the end of the research. The price tags on these (and other things like particle accelerators) are too big for private endowments. Only the govenment (or governments) is in a position to reasonably fund research as to how the universe works.

<rant>
What are ancient civilizations remembered for? Their scientific advancement. The Greeks with logic and math, the Mayans calanders and astronomy, the Chinese, gunpowder. What difference does it make in the grand scheme of things whether this battle was fought on Tuesday or Friday? Not a whole lot. The only thing that really lasts is the knowledge that we pass down to successive generations. This is the basic human drive. Why are we here? Where are we going? How did it happen? These questions are what make us human. This is why science is important. Science is the systematic attempt to glean meaning from the universe in an attempt to answer these questions. (Religion also attempts to answer these questions but it is usually not as systematic :-) and should really only be used to answer the questions that science cannot tell us). I am a relatively spritual and religious man, but religion cannot tell us where we evolved from just as science cannot tell us how to act morally.
</rant>

Disclaimer: This whole thing is of course my opinion, especially the last parenthetical sentence.

A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

I am the original poster and a physicist. I have two problems with your point of view:

The fact is that there are many companies out there that fund basic research. They do it primarily because if a breakthrough occurs, they want to have people in-house that can help turn it into a working product.
Well, private companies do fund some a lot of "basic" research, but not all. Companies like IBM, Lucent (aka Bell Labs) and others do fund projects not directly applicable to makeing $$$, but the research they do fund is stuff that is somewhat related. ie, IBM funds projects in Solid State physics becuase if some breakthough occurs, it can easily be applied to make smaller, faster chips. Companies would not have invested in space just 25 years ago. The space program never whould have started without the government's push (and yes, the govenment pushed space because of the Cold War). Only now that space and satillites are established do companies send up things on their own.

You are also ignoring private charities and Universities. There are many private schools with hundreds of millions in endowments, and many of those do and would be used to fund basic research. These endowments would be even bigger in a society with a lower tax burden, since many wealthy people leave their fortunes to their alma mater. There are also private donations directly toward research programs.
No, this is wrong. I am at a private university. We do have a ~$1e7 endowment. it goes to scholarships, capital improvements, and makeing interest to maintain the endowment. As for the most basic of research in physics, no money for these projects come from private sources. I am talking about things like my research group's search for Dark Matter or another group's Big Occulting Steerable Satellite. Private companies do not and will not fund things like this because there are no even remotely visible dollar signs at the end of the research. The price tags on these (and other things like particle accelerators) are too big for private endowments. Only the govenment (or governments) is in a position to reasonably fund research as to how the universe works.

<rant>
What are ancient civilizations remembered for? Their scientific advancement. The Greeks with logic and math, the Mayans calanders and astronomy, the Chinese, gunpowder. What difference does it make in the grand scheme of things whether this battle was fought on Tuesday or Friday? Not a whole lot. The only thing that really lasts is the knowledge that we pass down to successive generations. This is the basic human drive. Why are we here? Where are we going? How did it happen? These questions are what make us human. This is why science is important. Science is the systematic attempt to glean meaning from the universe in an attempt to answer these questions. (Religion also attempts to answer these questions but it is usually not as systematic :-) and should really only be used to answer the questions that science cannot tell us). I am a relatively spritual and religious man, but religion cannot tell us where we evolved from just as science cannot tell us how to act morally.
</rant>

Disclaimer: This whole thing is of course my opinion, especially the last parenthetical sentence.

A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

Only through hard work and perseverence can one truly suffer.

I'm probably going to ruffle some feathers by mentioning this in a non-CWRU (Case Western Reserve University) forum, but so be it...

CWRU installed an ATM network long before their technology was stable, and as a result, the network was down a significant portion of the time, and you could count on it going down at the times when it was utilized and important (such as before finals.) That decision was made not with the best student interests in mind, but with publicity-oriented politics handed down from on high. As a result partially of that, CWRU was voted Yahoo!'s Most Wired Campus in 1999, but was less of a testament to it's fantastic high speed network, and more of a Bill Clinton-style Legacy Building attempt by the out-going CIO. Much of the information cited in that award, such as 90% of facilities availble around the clock and 25MB of free web space, were not really true, and the topic of much controversy at CWRU for months thereafter. The University made lots of excuses of how that really was policy despite the fact that nobody knew about it, and the U didn't have the resources to back it up even if they wanted to.

My point: High speed net access is great, but many Universities use it as a selling point rather than a resource. When it becomes a political marketing tool, it's reliability suffers, and the students are the ones left out in the cold. As a student, there are MANY times I would have much rather had a 33.6 modem and a simple network that worked, than a space-age technological marvel that swallowed my code and locked up my homework the night before it was due...

I'm probably going to ruffle some feathers by mentioning this in a non-CWRU (Case Western Reserve University) forum, but so be it...

CWRU installed an ATM network long before their technology was stable, and as a result, the network was down a significant portion of the time, and you could count on it going down at the times when it was utilized and important (such as before finals.) That decision was made not with the best student interests in mind, but with publicity-oriented politics handed down from on high. As a result partially of that, CWRU was voted Yahoo!'s Most Wired Campus in 1999, but was less of a testament to it's fantastic high speed network, and more of a Bill Clinton-style Legacy Building attempt by the out-going CIO. Much of the information cited in that award, such as 90% of facilities availble around the clock and 25MB of free web space, were not really true, and the topic of much controversy at CWRU for months thereafter. The University made lots of excuses of how that really was policy despite the fact that nobody knew about it, and the U didn't have the resources to back it up even if they wanted to.

My point: High speed net access is great, but many Universities use it as a selling point rather than a resource. When it becomes a political marketing tool, it's reliability suffers, and the students are the ones left out in the cold. As a student, there are MANY times I would have much rather had a 33.6 modem and a simple network that worked, than a space-age technological marvel that swallowed my code and locked up my homework the night before it was due...

CWRU has changed their page just a smidge. My personal favorite is one of their sidebars off to the left of the page

CWRU Events
Sat. Jan 01 1900 EST
No events scheduled for today

Events Calendar...

And Jesus shmoe is whatever you want him to be. I figure he's probably flexible like that, unlike the fundamentalists who have come after him. Merry Christmas

I've mirrored the whole downloads page here.

I can only hope it stays up for more than a few minutes... I've never gotten to load-test whatever server this is I'm using in Win95. ;-)

one of the things i always wonder about are the security fixes they send out. they note they fix a lot of security holes, and i'm sure they do, but i don't look at code diffs so i don't know where they take place. and i have not seen an Apache exploit in decent release for a long time. i think that says a lot. IIS, NS, yeah, you see those every now and then (ok, a lot of IIS ones).

it's good to see a product like Apache really continuing on so many levels the Inet's traditions.

jose
are rick rubin and alan cox related? find out at http://biocserver.cwru.edu/~j ose/humor/rubin-cox .html.

Meaning no disrespect to Hemos, CmdrTaco, etc., etc., Slashdot realy needs a "science editor." Someone with an appreciable knowledge of science. This article is quite a heap of crap, from a scientific methedology standpoint (to say nothing of the lousy "physics" involved).

Anyway, most of the time, the /. editors put decent ideas and stories up, but from time to time, things like this get through. This story is filled with misinterpretations and omissions of quantum and general relativisitc theory.

One does not have to know evrything there is to know about all fields of science to determine what is valid, but one needs a basic understanding of each fields underlying principles as well as the use of scientific reasoning. These skills and knowledge one can learn from a decent undergraduate eduaction in the "hard sciences" (Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Astronomy, etc.). An undergradute eduaction in these fields is not the ONLY to recieve this knowledge, either. They are just the ones classically recognized as providing a decent platform onto which one can learn about other types of science. The anaylitical skills learned from these fields allow one to anaylize other's scientific arguments based upon their scientific merit and reasoning.

I would like to propose that, in particular, Physics gives an excellent background on other sciences as well as the needed training in scientific reasoning. Hey a guy can have a small bias can't he? :-) Anyway, the concepts learned in an undergraduate physics program have applications in almost every scientific and engineering field (uh oh, I said the dreaded E-word :-) One learns about the scientific method, Newtonian Mechanics, Thermodynamics and energy, Quantum Mechanics, Electricity and Magnatisim, Materials Physics, and Relativity. This stuff won't tell you everything there is to know about Biology, Chemical Engineering, Computer Science, or whatever, but it does get you quite a bit along the way.

I am sure other disciplines teach the analytical thought processes and most of the topics I mentioned. However, physics is the study of how everything works, so it is kind of broad :-)

Anyway, I'm sorry if I sound like a snot. I'm not trying to berate other sciences. I actually think that the skills any science teaches are essential in being able to discern what is valid and what is not, at least from a scientific viewpoint.

As you can probably tell, I am a physicist. I am at the Depatment of Physics at Case Western Reserve University. Email me if you want. It should be easy enough to figure out my real address. I'll get off my soapbox now :-).

Meaning no disrespect to Hemos, CmdrTaco, etc., etc., Slashdot realy needs a "science editor." Someone with an appreciable knowledge of science. This article is quite a heap of crap, from a scientific methedology standpoint (to say nothing of the lousy "physics" involved).

Anyway, most of the time, the /. editors put decent ideas and stories up, but from time to time, things like this get through. This story is filled with misinterpretations and omissions of quantum and general relativisitc theory.

One does not have to know evrything there is to know about all fields of science to determine what is valid, but one needs a basic understanding of each fields underlying principles as well as the use of scientific reasoning. These skills and knowledge one can learn from a decent undergraduate eduaction in the "hard sciences" (Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Astronomy, etc.). An undergradute eduaction in these fields is not the ONLY to recieve this knowledge, either. They are just the ones classically recognized as providing a decent platform onto which one can learn about other types of science. The anaylitical skills learned from these fields allow one to anaylize other's scientific arguments based upon their scientific merit and reasoning.

I would like to propose that, in particular, Physics gives an excellent background on other sciences as well as the needed training in scientific reasoning. Hey a guy can have a small bias can't he? :-) Anyway, the concepts learned in an undergraduate physics program have applications in almost every scientific and engineering field (uh oh, I said the dreaded E-word :-) One learns about the scientific method, Newtonian Mechanics, Thermodynamics and energy, Quantum Mechanics, Electricity and Magnatisim, Materials Physics, and Relativity. This stuff won't tell you everything there is to know about Biology, Chemical Engineering, Computer Science, or whatever, but it does get you quite a bit along the way.

I am sure other disciplines teach the analytical thought processes and most of the topics I mentioned. However, physics is the study of how everything works, so it is kind of broad :-)

Anyway, I'm sorry if I sound like a snot. I'm not trying to berate other sciences. I actually think that the skills any science teaches are essential in being able to discern what is valid and what is not, at least from a scientific viewpoint.

As you can probably tell, I am a physicist. I am at the Depatment of Physics at Case Western Reserve University. Email me if you want. It should be easy enough to figure out my real address. I'll get off my soapbox now :-).

Live webcasting is what I do. Check it out at the WRUW page. MP3 is definately the way to go. We have a 300 (clocked to 450) celeron and 128mb ram. It's on a dual board, so if we ever need more power, it'll be real simple. we've got a SB Ensoniq PCI soundcard that we feed our signal off or our airboard. We run Linux (duh :-),lame with some magic with named pipes and netcat and apache and we have as many streams as we want.

We also have an AudioActive hardware MP3 encoder, that the folks at Telos/Audioactive were kind enough to donate (They ROCK!). It encodes one signal (56kbps) and our server encodes another (24kbps).

I discovered that to the sound quality of 56k is comparable to a normal FM broadcast, so you really don't need a higher bitrate. The 24k stream is mono for modem users.

The biggest bottleneck is definately your bandwidth to the rest of the world. We are lucky enough at CWRU to have one of the worlds biggest ATM LANs. The 155MB/s of oncampus bandwidth is denfinately nice to have. We were on ethernet, and I was dreading possibility of crashing our Ethernet segment. Now with ATM, we can have unlimited on campus listeners (because more Case students have computers than radios :-) and our off campus bandwidth lets us have about 150 listeners from elsewhere. If you have more questions, please don't hesitate to email me. It should be pretty obvious as to what my email is :-)

Live webcasting is what I do. Check it out at the WRUW page. MP3 is definately the way to go. We have a 300 (clocked to 450) celeron and 128mb ram. It's on a dual board, so if we ever need more power, it'll be real simple. we've got a SB Ensoniq PCI soundcard that we feed our signal off or our airboard. We run Linux (duh :-),lame with some magic with named pipes and netcat and apache and we have as many streams as we want.

We also have an AudioActive hardware MP3 encoder, that the folks at Telos/Audioactive were kind enough to donate (They ROCK!). It encodes one signal (56kbps) and our server encodes another (24kbps).

I discovered that to the sound quality of 56k is comparable to a normal FM broadcast, so you really don't need a higher bitrate. The 24k stream is mono for modem users.

The biggest bottleneck is definately your bandwidth to the rest of the world. We are lucky enough at CWRU to have one of the worlds biggest ATM LANs. The 155MB/s of oncampus bandwidth is denfinately nice to have. We were on ethernet, and I was dreading possibility of crashing our Ethernet segment. Now with ATM, we can have unlimited on campus listeners (because more Case students have computers than radios :-) and our off campus bandwidth lets us have about 150 listeners from elsewhere. If you have more questions, please don't hesitate to email me. It should be pretty obvious as to what my email is :-)

At WRUW-FM Cleveland, our campus/community station here, we're using an overclocked Celeron running Linux to encode our 24kpbs stream (using lame and a cheap sound card) as well as serve web and email.

Our higher-quality 56kpbs stream is generated real-time by a hardware MP3 encoder from Audioactive. The encoder is a really nice solution, because we can always crank up the bitrate later as the available bandwidth of the universe expands. Since we're non-commercial and Audioactive was feeling generous, they donated the encoder to us free of charge! With the encoder removed from the equation, our total cost was under $900.

We don't have a ton of people listening yet, but the response we've received so far has been very positive. If you have any questions, feel free to send email.

At WRUW-FM Cleveland, our campus/community station here, we're using an overclocked Celeron running Linux to encode our 24kpbs stream (using lame and a cheap sound card) as well as serve web and email.

Our higher-quality 56kpbs stream is generated real-time by a hardware MP3 encoder from Audioactive. The encoder is a really nice solution, because we can always crank up the bitrate later as the available bandwidth of the universe expands. Since we're non-commercial and Audioactive was feeling generous, they donated the encoder to us free of charge! With the encoder removed from the equation, our total cost was under $900.

We don't have a ton of people listening yet, but the response we've received so far has been very positive. If you have any questions, feel free to send email.

I don't know who or what the final arbiter of the meaning of the term would be, but as I understand the term, it specifically does not mean disassembly etc, and that's confirmed by that glossary that I quoted. Other definitions that I can find include: "The regeneration of a specification from a completed design", "analyzing a system and producing a representation at a higher level of abstraction, such as design from code", and according to Case Western Reserve University, Ohio, "It is legal to use reverse engineering to learn a competitor's trade secret". The evidence isn't 100% in my favour, but it seems to be biased in that direction.

http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/net/easy/fn/

You can still visit the system and see what has been (until September 30, 1999):

telnet://freenet-in-c.cwru.edu

A scan of the mirrors in the com/net/edu/gov/ca domains revealed that a handful have the Lorax release. Here's the list I compiled. Others might also have it, but are overloaded right now, so I can't check.

ftp://ftp.aklug.org/pub/redhat/mirror/ lorax/
ftp://cwrulug.cwru.edu/pub/ftp.red hat.com/lorax/
ftp://ftp.eecs.umic h.edu/pub/linux/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/lorax/
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/p ub/Linux/distributions/redhat/lorax/
ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.e du/pub/redhat/lorax/
ftp://ftp.snoopy.net/pub/mirrors/red hat/lorax/

Kinda. I managed to get the RealPlayer version of it. It's 8.0 megs, so don't everyone crash the server all at once: http://monk.student.cwru.edu/~betts/weirdal_starwa rs/wierdal_starwars.rm If anyone knows a way to save RTSP media to disk, please let me know.

This is really offtopic, but look at theonion.com's story about the unacceptable death rate in the world...

As far as the monitors, I don't think they have enough power to shoot xrays through the glass. The electrons hit the shadow mask which is usually charged to about 25k volts which supposedly isn't that much. Check here for some info from people who know alot more than I do. I knew the "Blank Screen" screensaver was there for a purpose!

Using speeds like this for anything but backbone work is not too good an idea. System busses and CPUs on *normal* computers cannot handle the data flow. However, normal computers *can* handle OC-3, which is what Marina uses. :)

Hell yeah, there's a streming MP3 player for macs!

Check out AudioActive. Click on ".mp3 player"

They rule. They donated a realtime HARDWARE encoder to my school's radio station, WRUW-FM.

Must learn to type...

Also mirrored on the CWRULUG ftp server.

-- A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

-- A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

I am a programmer (not a DJ, programmers program their show, DJs just play what they are told to play) at my college radio station, WRUW-FM 91.1 Cleveland. I am in charge of Webcasting. In a few weeks we will have a live MP3 stream courtesy of AudioActive. We have an OC3 onto campus so we can serve literally THOUSANDS.

The key to enjoysing radio is to find something different than the mainstream. I totally agree that most stations out there play nothing but crap. They only play what the record companies want them to play, the last "Big Hit" from prepubescent whiny boys to vapid pop jingles. Listen to noncommercial radio. Whether it is NPR or a college station, since we are not concerned with make money from all the 12-year-old tinnie boppers, we can play GOOD music. And I know that not all college stations sound great, but there are some out there that do put a decent amount of effort into their offerings.

WRUW's main objective is to provide a REAL altrenative to the Cleveland community. We, and other noncommercial stations , pride ourselves on being different (and I think better) from commercial stations. Variety is imperative. We have classic jazz shows, "avant" jazz shows, Ska, punk, Classical, indy rock, country (real country), blues, industrial, metal, and freeform (a wonderous mix of all of the above). Every programmer puts effort into into their show, not because they are paid ('cause we're not), but becasue we care.

I know I sound like an evangelist, but I truly believe what I am saying. In high school, I listened to the latest "modern rock" station. It was crap, and I was a willing participant. I listend to all the bands they told me to. I bought the CDs, too. Yes, I have Greenday's Dookie, REM's Monster, the Cranberries, I use them as coasters now. Now I know better.

So in conclusion kids, Varitey is the key, and noncomercial radio provides it. And some stations ever webcast this stuff to everyone, so don't dispair.

Moshe Katz-Hyman (Mo Katz)
The Shape of Jazz to Come
Programmer and Webcasting Director
WRUW-FM Cleveland 91.1

-- A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

I am a programmer (not a DJ, programmers program their show, DJs just play what they are told to play) at my college radio station, WRUW-FM 91.1 Cleveland. I am in charge of Webcasting. In a few weeks we will have a live MP3 stream courtesy of AudioActive. We have an OC3 onto campus so we can serve literally THOUSANDS.

The key to enjoysing radio is to find something different than the mainstream. I totally agree that most stations out there play nothing but crap. They only play what the record companies want them to play, the last "Big Hit" from prepubescent whiny boys to vapid pop jingles. Listen to noncommercial radio. Whether it is NPR or a college station, since we are not concerned with make money from all the 12-year-old tinnie boppers, we can play GOOD music. And I know that not all college stations sound great, but there are some out there that do put a decent amount of effort into their offerings.

WRUW's main objective is to provide a REAL altrenative to the Cleveland community. We, and other noncommercial stations , pride ourselves on being different (and I think better) from commercial stations. Variety is imperative. We have classic jazz shows, "avant" jazz shows, Ska, punk, Classical, indy rock, country (real country), blues, industrial, metal, and freeform (a wonderous mix of all of the above). Every programmer puts effort into into their show, not because they are paid ('cause we're not), but becasue we care.

I know I sound like an evangelist, but I truly believe what I am saying. In high school, I listened to the latest "modern rock" station. It was crap, and I was a willing participant. I listend to all the bands they told me to. I bought the CDs, too. Yes, I have Greenday's Dookie, REM's Monster, the Cranberries, I use them as coasters now. Now I know better.

So in conclusion kids, Varitey is the key, and noncomercial radio provides it. And some stations ever webcast this stuff to everyone, so don't dispair.

Moshe Katz-Hyman (Mo Katz)
The Shape of Jazz to Come
Programmer and Webcasting Director
WRUW-FM Cleveland 91.1

-- A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

I am a programmer (not a DJ, programmers program their show, DJs just play what they are told to play) at my college radio station, WRUW-FM 91.1 Cleveland. I am in charge of Webcasting. In a few weeks we will have a live MP3 stream courtesy of AudioActive. We have an OC3 onto campus so we can serve literally THOUSANDS.

The key to enjoysing radio is to find something different than the mainstream. I totally agree that most stations out there play nothing but crap. They only play what the record companies want them to play, the last "Big Hit" from prepubescent whiny boys to vapid pop jingles. Listen to noncommercial radio. Whether it is NPR or a college station, since we are not concerned with make money from all the 12-year-old tinnie boppers, we can play GOOD music. And I know that not all college stations sound great, but there are some out there that do put a decent amount of effort into their offerings.

WRUW's main objective is to provide a REAL altrenative to the Cleveland community. We, and other noncommercial stations , pride ourselves on being different (and I think better) from commercial stations. Variety is imperative. We have classic jazz shows, "avant" jazz shows, Ska, punk, Classical, indy rock, country (real country), blues, industrial, metal, and freeform (a wonderous mix of all of the above). Every programmer puts effort into into their show, not because they are paid ('cause we're not), but becasue we care.

I know I sound like an evangelist, but I truly believe what I am saying. In high school, I listened to the latest "modern rock" station. It was crap, and I was a willing participant. I listend to all the bands they told me to. I bought the CDs, too. Yes, I have Greenday's Dookie, REM's Monster, the Cranberries, I use them as coasters now. Now I know better.

So in conclusion kids, Varitey is the key, and noncomercial radio provides it. And some stations ever webcast this stuff to everyone, so don't dispair.

Moshe Katz-Hyman (Mo Katz)
The Shape of Jazz to Come
Programmer and Webcasting Director
WRUW-FM Cleveland 91.1

-- A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

I am a programmer (not a DJ, programmers program their show, DJs just play what they are told to play) at my college radio station, WRUW-FM 91.1 Cleveland. I am in charge of Webcasting. In a few weeks we will have a live MP3 stream courtesy of AudioActive. We have an OC3 onto campus so we can serve literally THOUSANDS.

The key to enjoysing radio is to find something different than the mainstream. I totally agree that most stations out there play nothing but crap. They only play what the record companies want them to play, the last "Big Hit" from prepubescent whiny boys to vapid pop jingles. Listen to noncommercial radio. Whether it is NPR or a college station, since we are not concerned with make money from all the 12-year-old tinnie boppers, we can play GOOD music. And I know that not all college stations sound great, but there are some out there that do put a decent amount of effort into their offerings.

WRUW's main objective is to provide a REAL altrenative to the Cleveland community. We, and other noncommercial stations , pride ourselves on being different (and I think better) from commercial stations. Variety is imperative. We have classic jazz shows, "avant" jazz shows, Ska, punk, Classical, indy rock, country (real country), blues, industrial, metal, and freeform (a wonderous mix of all of the above). Every programmer puts effort into into their show, not because they are paid ('cause we're not), but becasue we care.

I know I sound like an evangelist, but I truly believe what I am saying. In high school, I listened to the latest "modern rock" station. It was crap, and I was a willing participant. I listend to all the bands they told me to. I bought the CDs, too. Yes, I have Greenday's Dookie, REM's Monster, the Cranberries, I use them as coasters now. Now I know better.

So in conclusion kids, Varitey is the key, and noncomercial radio provides it. And some stations ever webcast this stuff to everyone, so don't dispair.

Moshe Katz-Hyman (Mo Katz)
The Shape of Jazz to Come
Programmer and Webcasting Director
WRUW-FM Cleveland 91.1

-- A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."

hi all,

we have it mirrored at ftp://x.cwru.edu/pub/menace_408.mov for your viewing pleasure. i'd host it on one of my servers but our ethernet trunk is saturate.

slashdot away... brandon's got a goal of a terabyte for downloads by semesters' end.

jnazario

Well actually, http://www.cwru.ed u/affil/ansmet/meteorites/lunar_meteorite.html mentions the discovery of lunar remainders in the same meteorite fields the Mars meteorites were found in.