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  1. Re:we've already done this to death by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 5, Informative · on AT&T's Plan to Play Internet Cop

    Does Speakeasy offer DSL in your area? That's what I did until I could go with RCN. Speakeasy DSL costs more, but they have highly technically skilled customer support people, an expectation that their customers run servers, and a rock-solid network. I highly recommend them.

    Your packets will still likely go through an AT&T network and thus still be inspected.

    Because AT&T is so large this will affect a good chunk of the Internet - especially US networks.

    Hell their backbone runs the entire length of the us.

    This map is from 2000 so it's probably much more invasive now:

    http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/att_backbone_large.gif
  2. good map of global submarine fibers by viking80 · · Score: 1 · on Quake in Taiwan Cripples Internet

    http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/alcatel_large. gif

  3. Re:Iceland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Iceland To Drill Hole Into Volcano

    They are connected to the submarine cable lines. Space coms are a pain that far north, since your dish is pointed just above the horizon.

  4. Makes sense. by jd_Solid · · Score: 1 · on The New Air Force Mission?

    http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/johnny.jpg Two pre-teen hackers on your six, moving in for a better shot, over.

  5. Re:Dammit by d474 · · Score: 1 · on Internet to Pakistan Goes Down
    "Does the US have any major undersea pipes?"
    Oh, just a few more than Pakistan. See for yourself.
  6. Re:Ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on America's Most Connected Campuses

    No, Rutgers was not among the early ARPAnet nodes.
    Hey cool! It shows up here in 1974. That's kinda early, no?

  7. Re:Ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on America's Most Connected Campuses

    No, Rutgers was not among the early ARPAnet nodes.

  8. 1969 Internet maps by oob · · Score: 4, Interesting · on The Internet At 35

    Here's a nice collection of Internet maps from September 1969 onwards, showing the network build out from UCLA to include Stanford, UCSB, Utah and so on.

  9. Re:Ok let me get this straight.... by daBass · · Score: 1 · on Transatlantic Cable Fault Disrupts Internet In UK
    There are a few more cables then just the one.

    And no, you don't simply drive a van to where the cable is broken, dig it up and repair it all in an afternoon's work.

  10. Re:Pfft! Kids today by hburch · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Map the Internet... In One Day?
    We still have that picture.


    Since I linked to his site, I should mention that Martin Dodge has gathered a nice collection of maps of the Internet on his CyberGeography site, including many historical maps. CyberGeography also includes many other interesting types of maps.

  11. Re:Pfft! Kids today by hburch · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Map the Internet... In One Day?
    We still have that picture.


    Since I linked to his site, I should mention that Martin Dodge has gathered a nice collection of maps of the Internet on his CyberGeography site, including many historical maps. CyberGeography also includes many other interesting types of maps.

  12. Re:Pfft! Kids today by hburch · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Map the Internet... In One Day?
    We still have that picture.


    Since I linked to his site, I should mention that Martin Dodge has gathered a nice collection of maps of the Internet on his CyberGeography site, including many historical maps. CyberGeography also includes many other interesting types of maps.

  13. Internet Topology by Tacoguy · · Score: 2, Interesting · on Map the Internet... In One Day?

    I have followed various projects related to mapping cyberspace through the years and have always found An Atlas of Cycerspaces to be fascinating.

    Mapping by Lumeta is one such methodology and I even have a poster of theirs printed by Peacock Maps (server down just now) in my office.

    I have noticed that these mappings take a long time to complete and being able to map in a short time frame could be beneficial in much the same way that Internet Traffic Report can be to visualize traffic patterns or disruptions.

    Taco

  14. Been there, done that by Fux+the+Penguin · · Score: 4, Informative · on Map the Internet... In One Day?

    Okay, yes, I fully admit that it's cool to map the internet in one day. Regardless...I think I hear about some internet every other day.

    There's John Quarterman who's been doing it for years, and then the CAIDA visualization tools, and Cybergeography and the Internet weather report and damn maps and more maps.

    Note to everyone: please stop mapping the internet.

  15. visualizing complex data by Clandestine+Fourberi · · Score: -1, Redundant · on 3D Visualization of Linux Kernel Development

    Yes, that is interesting indeed.

    I think in general there may be interesting research to be done in the area of mapping/visualization of complex data: for instance this project of mapping the internet.

    Does this really help in general? Are there many cases where such visual maps would help understanding of complex data?
    Think for example, it may be interesting to produce such a map of everything2, which is a sort of hyperlinked online encyclopedia, to see where the clustering is.

    In astrophysics, 3D maps of the universe have been produced for some time, and the human-eye understanding of large-scale structure was at first more direct than statistical analysis--for instance, people would see the famous filaments, but stats wouldn't.

    A post above quoted the possible use in spotting "usefulness" of code contributions, by looking at their interdependencies for example.

  16. visualizing complex data by fiiz · · Score: 5, Interesting · on A 3D Animation of Kernel Source Development

    Yes, that is interesting indeed.

    I think in general there may be interesting research to be done in the area of mapping/visualization of complex data: for instance this project of mapping the internet.

    Does this really help in general? Are there many cases where such visual maps would help understanding of complex data?
    Think for example, it may be interesting to produce such a map of everything2, which is a sort of hyperlinked online encyclopedia, to see where the clustering is.

    In astrophysics, 3D maps of the universe have been produced for some time, and the human-eye understanding of large-scale structure was at first more direct than statistical analysis--for instance, people would see the famous filaments, but stats wouldn't.

    A post above quoted the possible use in spotting "usefulness" of code contributions, by looking at their interdependencies for example.

  17. It was asked long ago ... by jc42 · · Score: 3, Insightful · on Automatic Wireless Network Organisation

    We should probably note that the a wireless, redundant "mesh" design was part of the ARPA project from the beginning. A lot of old-timers are somewhat disappointed that it's 40 years later, and we still don't have it.

    You can see an example in the first diagram at this historical article. Note that the diagram dates to 1964, and the text mentions a "communications network that would survive a major enemy attacked" [sic].

    Many of the earliest diagrams of the ARPAnet showed planes, ships, plus all sorts of mobile ground vehicles, with wireless random-looking connections. Again, this was 40 years ago.

    Another interesting bit of history: The earliest ARPAnets were mostly on Ethernet. This is a curious term. Why would they use it for a length of coax cable? The reason was that the intention was that it be wireless, with packets being sent "throuh the ether". The wired version was just a temporary kludge until they could get the wireless version working. "Ethernet" was chosen as an unsubtle hint as to what was considered the real packet medium. It was clumsy, limited and kludgey, but the wires were only supposed to be a temporary medium, to be phased out in a few years.

    It's been 40 years, and we're still not there ...

  18. Cybergeography.org by BuckshotJones · · Score: 1 · on Charting Virtual Worlds

    If you want the online version of this book, visit cybergeography.org or join the mailing list. Also check out mappa.mundi.net for well written and researched articles on related topics. Martin Dodge, author of this book, contributes monthly columns about cyberspace maps.

  19. Not just maps of the internet by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 3, Informative · on Charting Virtual Worlds

    Not really just straight-forward maps of the internet. On the authors web page, there's a bunch of others too, like kernel maps of linux and artistic interpretations of various networks. Some are pretty, go check it out.

  20. Methinks they're munching on "special" brownies... by Guppy06 · · Score: 3 · on Charting Virtual Worlds
    From over at the Cyberceography site they mention in the article, we're posed with the question:
    "Have you ever wondered what a data packet might actually look like as it zips along the phone line? What physical form might it take?"

    Now, maybe I paid too close attention to my physics and EE classes, but they might as well ask "What does an electron taste like?" (Yes, I know it's grape-aid)

    A conceptual map of the internet would be useful for helping to grasp the concept of the amorphous monstrousity the 'net is, but I'm worried that these electronic cartographers are going in the wrong direction. It's nice that 16th century cartographers put in all those pretty sea serpents and mermaids, but that still doesn't change the facts that South America looks nothing like that, there's a whole other continent in the South Pacific, and there's no Northwest Passage.
  21. Based on this map. Plenty of cables nearby. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1 · on Sealand Looking For Partners

    Take a look at this map of undersea cables. There looks to be plenty of telecom cables near Sealand. In fact, I'd be surprised if Sealand itself wasn't used as a waypoint for the cables laid prior to Sealand's habitation.

  22. Re:features of MULTICS by trb · · Score: 1 · on The History of UNIX
    As multics was a large bloated behemoth, unix (eunuchs) was intended for smaller networks (at the time)
    UNIX was born in 1970. There were really no "networks" at that time (that is, no computers linked by what we think of as networks). For what networks there were, see this atlas. (Or perhaps you simply meant smaller machines?)
  23. not worthy of a patent by anonymous+loser · · Score: 1 · on Geographic Screening
    I really hope that iCrave's patent application is rejected. Mapping IP addresses to geographic locations has been around for many many years (witness GeoBoy and Atlas of Cyberspaces).
    1. Filtering based upon this information
    2. has been done before (although I can't find a handy quick reference, an example would be the many ftp sites which kept users from downloading encryption code from outside the US),and
    3. is what I consider an obvious use of existing technology.

    It really irks me to see people even trying to file a patent for this kind of crap.

  24. See also... by Yarn · · Score: 4 · on Mapping the Internet

    CyberGeography mirrored: here and here