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The Internet At 35
Anonymous writes "CNN has a story on the 35th anniversary of the Internet, overviewing its past and the future. According to the article the history began on 'September 2, 1969, as bits of meaningless test data flowed silently between the two computers.' So, happy birthday, the Internet!"
So which is it? 25? or 35? Come on... :p
The Internet at 25. (1969)
Nice math there. It's 35.
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
You know, I usually round down when I'm hitting on girls, not whel I'm talking about geek crap..
35 Years Ago Today: Frist PSOT!!!1
You know, the internet at 25?
"The Internet At 25"... but it started in 1969. I think this "Internet" is a lot like some 35 year old guys I've seen in various chatrooms trying to convince all of the co-eds that they're really 25.
the delay in final submission for articles should be moved from 10 minutes to 20 minutes. I submit the mistakes to the editor on duty, but unfortunately, I was too late. :(
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...Ah yes, the internet. Putting porn and pipebomb instructions in the hands of 13-year olds since September 3rd, 1969...
I hope, when I'm 35, I'm 25 again! w00.
In 35 years of internet posting.. there are still acquisition erorrs
1) 1 x 1 pixel of goatse.cx 2) Two sentence SPAM email trying to get investors into something called TCP/IP 3) The famous "Nixon" worm of '69. Crippled 3 machines.
data between to computers? you could have given a few more general details, it sounds just like any serial link.
There was an unknown error in the submission.
...that the largest discussion of the difference between 25 and 35 in the history of the internet is about to ensue.
As of today, 25 == 35. Please rewrite all of your programs to handle this new math. Thank you.
yeah, but that post is about posts that are about the title.
Ah, the Internet. Designed so that even in the event of nuclear war, our military leaders would still be able to access pornography.
Love the Third Amendment?
Is the Internet going through a mid-life crisis or something? First it found it out that Al Gore wasn't his real father; it was actually adopted by the US government. Then everyone blamed it for the tanking economy.
And now it's just bought a Porsche and is going in for botox treatments.
The focus of the article seems to be security issues of the Internet. Talk of virusses, spam and whatnot. They even qute a guy saying he wishes security had been a priority when it was first invented. Shouldn't it be noted these issues are in software, not the hardware infastructure or protocal of the Internet?
It would forever be 29 years old.
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I think the editors are under enough stress. I mean they first have to make sure the article wasnt posted 3 times before and do a spell check. Now you all want them to check basic math. gessh give them a break
Well, let's not let the title get too carried away on accuracy, even disregarding its subtraction error. In 1969, the prototype ARPAnet started up. It used NCP (TCP/IP came later). It didn't become the "Internet" until there were multiple interconnected networks, and that was not until the early 1980s, after the TCP/IP transition (which was completed in 1983). There were multiple networks once the more production-oriented MILNET split off of the more research-y ARPAnet. And after that came CSnet and all sorts of others.
But yes, it was in many ways better in the early days (pre-1993), because there was no spam, or for that matter any other advertising. Although Google and the like do sort of make up for it.
Is it 25 or 35? And is today really Sept. 2nd?
I've got to go through high school and university again? Bum
This time I won't do computer science.
Not sure about this Internet thing, but I heard about the IntarWeb from a friend and gave it a shot. It's great! There's free Britney pics, lots of this "pr0n" stuff at various sites starting with the word goat, and forums full of all kinds of wonderful religious fanatics, ready to convert me to their cult. I love it!
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Wow, the Slashdot editors must really have a grudge against the masses today. I figured this would be the best way to justify killing everybody's karma through redundant mods.
Also, who would even be surprised anymore if they didn't even see as much as an acknowledgement of the mistake being corrected, just a quick change from "25" to "35"?
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
Initially, the internet was bits of meaningless data between two computers.
Today? Bits of meaningless data between millions of computers.
All joking aside though, I have no idea how people got anything done before the internet.
Need to fix something around the house? Check the 'net.
Need to figure out where the hell a business/friend is? Check the 'net.
Have some jackass who insists they're right about some obscure factoid, and want to make them admit they're full of crap now, before they can deny it ever happened? Good 'ol internet.
Between wireless, high-speed access, and laptops within an arm's reach, the average person now has access to information that used to be obscure and almost impossible to come by at a moments notice.
In 35 years, the internet has probably done more to change the way people live than any other invention. (at least in the last 100 years or so) That dude who discovered fire and the wheel did pretty well for humanity.
Al Gore
Its not even September yet...the internet is still 34 for a few more days.
I hope you don't live in the USA or you are in serious trouble for copyright infrigement on the "Happy Birthday" song!
"Remember America, I gave you the Internet, and I can take it back! Think about it."
If you build it, nerds will come. Soylentnews.org
Sept 2 should be a national holiday.
What are you getting for Internet Day?
Why a new Cisco 7x00 series router!
Thank you Linus Claus!
"Sig free in '03!"
I blame Y2K. Anyway, is it 1994 or not? I need to know if they'll let me into the bar tonight.
"We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't believe in tolerance and free speech." - David Brin
No, Really.
"It is a greater offense to steal men's labor, than their clothes"
But I knew back in '73 when we got our IMP that no good would come of it.
Thanks you! I dunut car if i spel write or aboot my tenseses, thanks fore tha suggestcion!
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Now I understand why you paid $115 for your current user ID, dolo666.
Most of the time, still doesn't help if no one is around to actually check the mail. Some editors are better than others, Hemos actually responds!
Moderators really need to learn how to read the timestamp on these posts.
Although since our editors can't figure out simple math, I suppose it should be expected around here.
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So they first tested Internet with spam? With that kind of a start no wonder we're in the current mess!
that in the summer of 1969 the just completed moon landing would have almost no impact to our lives 35 years later, but these bits between two computers would change the face of the world. Weird...
Whoosh!
All reporters should have a 3-day fact-checking period before they can print a story.
So Gore was VP in 1969? Now I'm throughly confused.
ooo look!
25 is isomorphic to 35- it changes randomly.
First 25, now 35, looky 25 is coming back soon!
/b
|f(x)dx = F(b) - F(a)
The Internet suddenly has a mid-life crisis. Looking back on its life, it realizes its squandered its time on earth on porn, e-commerce, and petty IM conversations. . The Internet feels hollow and worthless. To console itself, it buys a Porsche from www.porsche.com, and takes it out on the road. Now feeling youthful and vibrant, the Internet uses the Porsche to woo a younger network. Soon enough, the Internet and the younger network are in the throes of a sultry affair. One night, the Internet's rubber breaks and he accidentally gets the younger network pregnant. Scared, the Internet runs away, and the younger network is left on its own to raise the Subnet. The Subnet grows into a full Class C and then into an Internet of its own.
"It's just a jump to the left"...
And defying statistics, 99% of them just turned 18!
And another thing- if the Internet really is 25 (or 35, whatever)- how come she has so many web sites that say she just turned 18?
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this type of thing always makes me wonder about all the other firsts out there.
like the first word. What was the first word? it had to have happened somewhere at sometime, right?
We are fortunate enough to actually know when the first bits flowed accross this leap in human communication we call the Internet (or internet for those that like to mux with things).
But that first being on some ancient plain understanding the concept that she can convey an idea; that she has ideas, that she is something.
Someone, at sometime, somewhere expressed to another entity a concept - and it was the first time.
Mind blowing.
on that day 35 years ago this same type of event was repeated in a new iteration.
Ipv4 running out of room is a bit of a myth -- there's still plenty of companies and uninversities with huge blocks of ipv4 address space that they have for historical reasons.
Most ipv4 stacks run on top of an ipv6 stack now and have for several years. I don't see what hardware has to do with it, unless they mean those old routers on the backbone. Most peoples' desktop's and server's NICs can already handle ipv6, and there's nothing stopping them from writing and using ipv6-based applications (client and server). Gettiing ipv6 packets through an ipv4-only backbone segment is just a matter of setting up a tunnel.
PS I think they meant internet turns 23 -- in hex
Al Gore.
Al Gore: well this calls for celebration. *ceeeeeeeelebreate good times comon*
Al Gore: I will
The Internet's 35, isn't it time it got married and had kids? I mean practically everyone knows the pressure put on getting married these days. ;-)
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Meaningless? Meaningless?
Those bits weren't "meaningless" -- they meant something very clear and important:
Test successful.
-kgj
-kgj
Why is this modded +4 funny? Al Gore does deserve to be remembered for his involvement in the creation of what we now know as the Internet.
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In 1986 I was stationed at McClellan AFB, and got to watch some contractors install about 4 racks of beige equipment called an "Interface Message Processor" from a company called BBN. I had no clue at the time it was part of the internet. About ten years later I realized what it was, and thought "Wow, I got to see an IMP in person!"
Sorry, I don't have a photo (and couldn't find one via Google) -- cameras weren't allowed in the area. The very first IMPs looked like this, though.
Chip H.
Is it referring to Verisign (Net-Sol) or what?
Most of the previous commentors, so it seems, did not even read the article. Yes, someone please welcome me. I am new to /..
So it started with technological innovation, and saw rapid development through the cooperation of governments and universities. It was refined and improved thanks to the effort of a bunch of awfully dedicated academics to the point where it could merge with mainstream technologies (talking PPP over analog phone modems). The new worldwide resource gave us the ability to communicate like never before.
Things were going so well, until the marketers came on board and started flooding people with ads and junk whatever way they could find. Spam was funny at first; now it's a serious waste of bandwidth and resources, with business people resorting to purely criminal activities in order to flood their advertising and harm benevolent volunteer organizations. Thanks to dirty business the Internet has become a battle ground. Spyware and even viruses are directly linked to immoral advertising/spam.
Now, I don't hate marketing people (I run a businses, and am a student in Management) but it's safe to say that immoral marketers are f*cking up the Internet.
Al Gore did not create the internet! He coined the phrase "Information Highway", in a speach about the World Wide Web that was just starting to become available to public users.
They have the internet on computers now?
Wow, is it already 35? I feel so old... I remember when back in the early 1970s I said to one of my friends that I don't know when, I don't know how, but I am sure that eventually one day someone will somehow use this new technology for pornography... In my sickest dreams I haven't imagined something on the scale of images.google.com, though. That having been said, happy birthday to Internet, the most important achievment of humanity since the printing press. It all began on "September 2, 1969, as bits of meaningless test data flowed silently between the two computers." Today, after only 35 years, the unbelievably obscene amount of meaningless data silently flowing between billions of computers in every second, makes me wonder: can the net amount of entropy of the universe be decreased? Will the Internet help us find any meaningful answer? In any case, I am sure that the Internet is something which our grandchildren and their grandchildren will learn at school about. September 2 is a very important day. There is even an article on Wikipedia about this very day. I believe every person who has ever published anything on the Internet should be proud, because this is something all of us has created, even if none of use has envisioned. Truly remarkable achievment. Happy birthday!
Sincerely,
Pan Tarhei Hosé, PhD.
"Homo sum et cogito ergo odi profanum vulgus et libido."
What I am looking forward to the day when we finally get beyond the meaningless test data phase...uh, anyway, I looked at /. for the day and am off to the email account to perform a spam harvest.
So which is it? 25? or 35? Come on... :p
It's only a 10 years old dupe. You must be new here...
Sincerely,
Pan Tarhei Hosé, PhD.
"Homo sum et cogito ergo odi profanum vulgus et libido."
"....as bits of meaningless test data flowed silently between the two computers"
;)
that sounds a lot like the way i was made...well, let me rephrase that....
"...as bits of meaningless biomass flowed silently between the two organs..."
and out of all those semen, mine was the fastest
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So the Internet is really 35 years old, or at least will be in September, which is before November...
INTERNET FOR PRESIDENT!
The Internet? Is that thing still around?
This is a sig. Deal with it.
25 was right, that was when Al Gore invented the Internet. It was not those geeks in 1969 that did it. No no, not them. Al Gore did it. He said so. Remember, its not real until the legislature says so.
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Al Gore: [sitting motionless] "I will!"
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the internet was supposed to be a communcation system, that will operate even if a large part of it were knocked out because of nuclear war.
e nce/te chnology/internet.bomb/index.html
check out:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/experi
for more information.
Who "invented" flouride? And why is this something that has changed the way we live?
And guess who he'd have to pay to use it -- AOL/Time Warner... *shudder*
I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
"Working with NASA, Cerf is also trying to extend the network into outer space to better communicate with spacecraft."
Astronaut: Houston, we have a problem...one of the display screens is reading "j00 R pAwned".
SIGFAULT
After all, if it wasn't for him linventing the internet, we would have no reason to celebrate.
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Here's a nice collection of Internet maps from September 1969 onwards, showing the network build out from UCLA to include Stanford, UCSB, Utah and so on.
Maybe there will stop being so many liberals on it (you know - those over/under 30 who are liberal/conservative...). :p
John Kerry is a Joke!
just think of the good times. like the time you got finnish soldgers out of work becuse you got them attdicted to you. or that one time where you let pepole trade them mp3's over a thing called napster. or even now where a boy is typeing out a stupid responce on a news website
must be so happy that his child has grown up to unite the people of the world.
I wonder what the internet got al gore on fathers day?
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If you define "Internet" as two or more computers communicating with each other, then it's been around for longer. Hackers at MIT way back when hooked together 2 computers (PDP-11 and PDP-7 I think) and told some professors they had created a chess program. They had one professor sit in one room at the terminal for one of the computers, and the other professor in the other room with the terminal for the other computer. The professors played each other for a while until one of them realized the responses were a bit slow, then saw/followed the wire into the next room where the other professor was sitting!
...Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed.
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The bits were indeed meaningless. They were random bits which represented nothing. The grammar nazi thinks you have mistaken useless for meaningless. The test was indeed useful, but the bits were still meaningless.
... but I will say, I'm glad you're on the job, grammar nazi. That's exactly the kind of semantic nuance-manship I'd champion myself, were I sober ....
Hmm. I'm not sure I agree
-kgj
-kgj
There are a LOT of people on this planet that if you were to send them back 100 years in the past, the net would be the thing they most ache for
I call BS on that. Most folks today could not handle old school farming and raising and slaughtering their own animals. Even something simple like preparing a chicken would make modern folks miss frozen food far more than the net.
Additionally, the old school farming lifestyle would not leave any free time for the net. What modern folks would miss most of all would be the 8 hour work day that leaves time for luxuries like the net.
Just ask the "tech" "reporter" at AP "news."
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Web Turns 35, but Still Work in Progress
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The birth of the Internet should count when the first porn picture was published. Seriously, until it was made to the masses with a non-scientific use did it matter to the public.
LO
The word that the tester was trying to type was LOGIN. The system crashed before he could type the rest of it. Some things never change.
Source: "Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Birth of the Internet."
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A virgo?
- Al Gore
It is FUNNY that Al Gore claimed that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet" ... the video is there if you watch & listen to the entire interview at time stamp ~ 0:50
I believe Juanita
It is FUNNY that Al Gore claimed that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet" ... the video is there if you watch & listen to the entire interview at time stamp ~ 0:50
I believe Juanita
But nobody really cared at Case, because the emphasis there was on "high-capacity, fast-turnaround batch computing". They got really good at batch job processing. It was so cost-effective that Case stayed with it years after other schools went interactive.
Hello, Wow. I just posted and the Slashdot system just broke down... That makes me feel much much younger. I'm about as young as the relationship model of databases; or now I'm SRB young.... now I'm Hier....wait... I'm so young I'm network young....... Now I'm file system young...... Oh God! I'm File System young..... waaaaa! Waaaa!!!! No, stop... I'm a cobol baby.
Yep,
All f=d up.
Bout time someone started a tech discussion on Slashdot. I thought that would get attention. My post was messed up, and now those in the know would jump in. I know zero about databases., but you all know. So, Discuss! Let's get it on with the object oriented and that all and such....
Does this mean we can now start selling stupid CafePress t-shirt's???
--- hows it taste mother f$#@er!!!
happy birthday, the Internet!
"Oh come 'ere the Internet. I can never stay mad at you. Now let's go kick Strong Sand in the shins."
.. he is trying to defend the core addressing system from outside threats, including an attempt last year by a private search engine to grab Web surfers who mistype addresses.
Internet Explorer?
from the to-stupid-for-words dept.
foo ----------------->
<---------------- bar
Meaningless test data, indeed.
...nerds with computers. Something tells me the Internet is 34 1/2 then ;)
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
and forums full of all kinds of wonderful religious fanatics, ready to convert me to their cult. I love it!
You mean like the Church of the Self-Important Annoying Athiest, often represented by the mysterious symbols "/."? ;)
"...bits of meaningless test data flowed silently between the two computers" Completely silently? ...with no noise at all?
I would've thought, even if we couldn't hear it, some sound would be made.
UCLA will host a forum for the 35th Anniversary of Internet on October 29th. http://www.internetanniversary.com
Thank you, Al. ;p
However, you're right that the Al Gore joke is funny. Lies about drunk driving, legislation that was passed over your veto, and "compassionate conservatism" just don't have as much humor potential.
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/toxicchemicalsan/a/flo uride.htm and seem to think Flouride is bad. I met a guy on an airplane whose life mission appeared seemed to be to get rid of Flouride forever.
I stopped using a Flouride rinse my dentist sold me because of it. Seems kinda scary. Please someone rebut this.. I can't seem to find any good rebuttals.
...unfortunately no one can be told what The Mat^H^H^HGoatse is...they must experience it for themselves...
At 35, the Internet is now old enough to be President of the United States.
Take care,
brad
Until the mid-80s there were several national networks with various qualities of interconnectability-ArpaNet, MilNet, NSFNet, BitNet, etc. The "InterNet" agreed on standardized protocols and funded a trans-continental optical fiber backbone. AL Gore (really) is repsonsible for that legislation.
"So, happy birthday, the Internet!"
/. article "It's Just the 'internet' Now?" .
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Hivemind harvest in progress..
on this side of the ocean, the internet could be legaly drunk for many years already...
In Soviet Russia, interenet invents Al Gore!!!!