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Here Here! Well said!
When the summit of the highest 'Mount' in your state looks like this (Mount Sunflower, Kansas, elevation 4039'):
http://www.dimensional.com/~jbettin/air/ks25.jpg
...your state is probably flat.

For comparison, here's Mount Borah in Idaho (elevation 12655'):
http://www.idahoaclimbingguide.com/id142.htm

I also am going to take the opportunity to remind the Slashdot community that a good percentage of our founders were not fundamentalists, and emphatically supported the concept of separation of church and state. I also would like to share the fact that it has been a practice of late for the religious right to spread misconceptions on this topic.

Christian revisionism
Here or here about your founding fathers.
I suppose the formerly conservative supreme court is now liberal because they wont allow an Alabama judge to activily endorse the christian religion.

Other than the people who got shipped over in chains (african americans), starved out (americans of irish descent during the potato famine), were here before us (latinos/american indians), sent to serve out prison sentences, or just wanted a better life, I would hazard a guess and say very few came to the US exclusively because of religious regions.

I just wanted to emphasize the tourists part with a few Golgafrinchan comments about how us humans came to this planet ... But I don't carry my HHG2G bible (in an Orange cover to boot) around.

Now since the God is in the White House , anything that challenges Biblical Creationism might get the short stick ?. Sadly even education seems to teaching creationism rather than darwinism. I hate how these people try to explain dinosaur fossils with the great flood.

It really sucks when religion clouds Science !!. Even the hard-core Hindutva does not enforce creationism as the entire tantric cycle is based on evolution of a single unit mind into a human yogi. Even Einstein allowed it and said "God does not play dice with the universe" . Stephen Hawking takes the high road by "God did have a choice in the initial state of the universe" (and he set rules too, so science IS GOD).

"Damn American tourists" ... (repeat in whatever native language for maximum effect)

...people scaling the sheer cliffs of the local sidewalk...

The founding fathers were all Christian...Christianity was all they knew about so this should be obvious.

That assumption is false.

I suggest you do a bit of research before making statements such as you have here.

The Septuagint is a corrupt translation; observe that it has Methuselah living after the flood. There is strong evidence that it was created by the heretic Origen. The KJV is based on the Masoretic text, which was proven accurate by the Dead Sea Scrolls.

I don't read German, so I cannot comment on Luther's translation skills.

As for your statistics on the Inquisition, all I can say is that denial is not a river in Egypt. For some vivid details about the inquisition methodology, see here.

Those desiring more detailed and thoroughly researched information should read Dave Hunt's book, ISBN 1565071999 at your favority bookseller. This book documents that in Spain alone, three million people were condemned under the RCC Inquisition, and 300,000 were burned at the stake. As neo-Nazis try to claim the holocaust did not kill millions of Jews, some rabid RCC apologists try to claim that the inquisition was also not a mass killing machine. Neither can hide history, but they keep on trying.

Your posts about Linux are pretty far off-base:

1) When is the last time you called MS support and got USEFUL information? The "support is only free if your time is worthless" argument is completely moot. You want support? Get a support contract with RedHat.

2) Things you install yourself (not from the distro) almost never work out of the box. No kidding, well not ALL non-MS Windows apps ALWAYS work right out of the box either. See where I'm going here? If you want a guarantee it will work, stick with the apps certified with the distro.

3) Inconsistent interface (emacs vs. vi)? Come on, compare apples to oranges why don't you. I could just as easily say MS-Word and Corel WordPerfect have inconsistent interfaces. They're not from the same authors and toolkits, they're bound to have differences. Besides, there's not interface guidelines for either emacs or vi. Pick a suite of applications and compare within, like the KDE suite or the GNOME suite.

4) No hardware support for scientific hardware:

CCD Camera
Digital Frame Grabbers
Confocal Microscopy- got me there, guess they must stock these at your local BestBuy because mine sure doesn't
High Res Image Analysis

Fact is, you probably didn't know about all this before you posted but now you do. I'm not saying everything works hunky-dory under Linux but don't post untruths. If you don't like Linux, fine, then don't use it, nobody's forcing you in the way MS forces it's products on the masses.

Great - so now we can get morons suffering from the 3psi actual pressure (extreme oxygen deprivation) scribbling "FP from Everest!"

I prefer this sort of mountain climbing.

• Ex. 20:13 Thou shalt not commit murder.
• Ex. 32:27 Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, put every man his sword by his side...and slay every man his brother...companion..neighbor.(See also 1 Sam. 6:19; 15:2,3; Num. 15:36)

• Eph. 2:8,9 For by grace are ye saved through faith...not of works. (Rom. 3:20, 28; Gal. 2:16)
• James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(Matt. 19:16-21)

> Do you live in berkeley too? I can't imagine any other place in the world that calling
> someone a fake liberal is an considered a valid argument tactic.

I don't live in the States.

> For the record I am not a `liberal' I am a utilitarian.

OK, noted. I also note that this site talks about...
"the large degree of altruism implied by utilitarianism - altruism not only in an
abstract philosophical sense, but real and concrete altruism: actually going out and
doing things to help others." Hmmm...

I said:
> > Illicit drugs (including tobacco) damage you physically. Yes, there is enough research
> > backing this. And you don't believe it - quote me the *peer-reviewed* research that
> > says it *doesn't* harm.

but then you gave me this paper:

>For physical damage how about these peer reviewed studies. ...
> Opioid therapy for chronic nonmalignant pain: a review of the critical issues.
> Portenoy RK.
> From the last article we have the following wonderfull quote:
>
> "Long term opiod therapy has not been
> associated with major organ toxicity in large
> surveys of cancer patients and methadone-
> maitened patients"

Here's the link to the paper. Read it.
The opiates are carefully administered to patients suffering terrific
pain by doctors who carry out an "ongoing assessment of aberrant drug-related behaviors".
If the patient develops an addiction, "a specialist in addiction medicine"
is called on to help the patient.

Dude, if you administer cyanide under careful medical supervision, there aren't be any
ill effects either. That's not what I am talking about.

What I am talking about these drugs in the *wild* - on the street. What happens
when you let people use opium as they wish to... what happens when a teenager
is given opiates to experiment with... with no doctors or
addiction counsellors 'carefully monitoring the situation'?

Many die. Many waste away. Remember the Chinese Opium wars ?
when "during the early 1800's opium addiction reached epidemic proportions in China."

Are you so hard hearted that you think this an acceptable tradeoff so that
a drug user can feel "legit"?

> In fact as you are the one claiming that all drugs cause physical harm you
> are the one that should be required to provide evidence.

Sorry, but there are GOOD reasons that drugs were regulated.
And you are the one advocating changing the locus standii.
Hence the burden of proof is on you. I will still answer your points, though.

> That is a nice trick saying "there is enough research to back this up". How the fuck ...
First I'll remove the strawman argument you've put up - different drugs cause
different degrees of harm, and different amounts of addiction.

> > Its about protecting those who would perish: the "one-trip" teenagers,
> > the "irreversibly changed" innocents, the ones whose first puffs dragged
> > them uncontrollaby down in a never-ending spiral towards death.
> Did you pull this directly from refer madness or an anti-drug ad?

From the same paper that your initial "wonderful quote" comes from:
"It has also been postulated that subtle abstinence syndrome phenomena could contribute
to a "downhill spiral" in which pain is sustained or maladaptive behaviors are perpetuated
as a result of opioid use. Some type of similar process has also been suggested to explain
"rebound" headache, a syndrome of refractory pain ascribed to frequent use of short-acting
analgesics. Although no systematic study has been done of this putative phenomenon,
the problematic nature of opioid therapy in some patients is unquestionable,
and, in these individuals, the impact of all possible outcomes related to treatment,
including physical dependence, should be carefully assessed."

> > Do you condone slavery? Why do you oppose the government clamping down on extremely addictive drugs then?

> A two year old could see this is clearly a cheap emotional appeal and not actually an argument.

Really? I suggest you try it. I'm sure you'd be surprised how perceptive children can be. I guess you mean that no drug user is a slave to their habit ?

Try explaining that to the otherwise modest woman FORCED to whore to support her habit.
Or the junkie caught up in spiral of crime to support a habit he WANTS OUT OF.

Sorry, perhaps none of your friends come from this category of people.

As for "physical damage", check this paper on ecstasy publised by Lancet.

Login to lancet.com (needs free registration, search for "LSD")
__________________________________________ ________ ______
Congenital anomalies after prenatal ecstasy exposure
P R McElhatton, D N Bateman, C Evans, K R Pughe, S H L Thomas
Prospective follow-up of 136 babies exposed to ecstasy in utero
indicated that the drug may be associated with a significantly
increased risk of congenital defects. Cardiovascular anomalies
(26 per 1000 livebirths) and musculoskeletal anomalies
(38 per 1000) were predominant. ...
Drug exposure Anomalies
Ecstasy

4 weeks Left 4th toe underlying the 3rd toe

612 weeks Right-sided plagiocephaly

45 weeks Unilateral talipes

First trimester Unilateral talipes

6 and 9 weeks Bilateral talipes

First trimester Pyloric stenosis

First trimester Absent upper limbs, left scapula, clavicles,
and hypoplasticity of the first rib pair; pregnancy terminated at 22 weeks.
________________________________________________ __ ______

You asked about LSD? From this page:

The consequences of LSD use can be deleterious, not merely benign as is commonly
perceived. Powerful hallucinations can lead to acute panic reactions when the mental
effects cannot be controlled and when the user wishes to end the drug-induced state.
While these panic reactions more often than not are resolved successfully over time,
prolonged anxiety and psychotic reactions have been reported.
The mental effects can cause psychotic crises and compound existing psychiatric problems.

> Also as I am not a drug dealer I fail to see how you get to accuse me of
> being a booze trading european.

It gets worse!

Since you see nothing wrong with consumption of drugs its a no-brainer that
you'd see nothing with production either (for you can't have one without the other)

Given yet another century, you'd easily be a greedy English merchant helping prosecute
the Opium war.

> It would however be a fair analogy to suggest
> you would be in favor of going in with guns and draggin all the indians who buy liqour into jail.

Ha, of course not. You gotta *love* the weak... i.e. help them, talk to them, rehab them.
As for the exploitative European booze pushers - warn them off, and if they don't listen, lock
them up. Not that I object to liquor *in moderation*, but that societies
that have not seen been exposed to it before must be helped to learn to handle it responsibly.

BTW, you don't much fit the profile of the utilitarian described at the top of the post.

how about james madison?
or benjamin franklin?
john adamn, perhaps?
thomas paine?

http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/founders.htm
http://www.postfun.com/pfp/worbois.html

zing!

"The next thing you know it will be illegial or unlawful to utter the word 'God' in public"

The same law that prohibits the government from promoting any religion, prohibits the government from censoring any particular religion

"So much for the founding fathers with their Christian beliefs"

What I think is funny is that Parker Brothers never really invented the game to start with. It's a dirty little secret. Parker Brothers used to include a little sheet inside the game with a story about the game's "inventor" Charles B. Darrow. The problem? The guy copied a game that was invented by a Quaker woman and was already in the public domain.

Check out the excellent book "The Monopoly Swindle" by Ralph Anspatch:
http://www.firstprint.com/Anspach.htm
http://www.acesup.com/books/monopoly_swindle.html
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0738831395/ qid=1018627182/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_7_1/104-0536921-788 3116

Or these web sites:
http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa121997 . tm
http://www.speakeasy.org/wfp/36/monopoly.html
http://www.historychannel.com/cgi-bin/frameit.cgi? p=http%3A//www.historychannel.com/exhibits/toys/mo nopoly.html

Patrick Kellogg
kellogg@dimensional.com
http://www.patrickkellogg.com

Judge: No, he didn't say "You can't." He said "This defendant can't."

Sullivan: He said, "This defendant can't."

Judge: He didn't say "The world can't."

Sullivan: That's correct, Your Honor.

Judge: And most of the briefing here is as if he issued a worldwide injunction. If it was a defendant class of all journalists, professors, researchers, citizens of the world - it's a very precise injunction.

And the lawyer didn't even mention the fact that the MPAA's threatening letters use the injunction to try to intimidate others who post links, as if it were, in fact, a worldwide injunction. Pity.

She seemed a little unprepared for this hearing.

-Legion

-Legion

They're much more vulnerable to the uncertainties in the broadband market than the big boys.

My ISP, Dimensional Communications, seems to have done better than most other independent providers, at least in its limited service area (basically, the Boulder/Denver/Colorado Springs corridor and a few mountain areas). They jumped on the DSL bandwagon early, offering service from U S West/Qwest and Jato Communications (the latter primarily for business accounts).

Unfortunately, Jato tanked in December and switched off most of their DSL circuits without warning. And since some Dimensional customers used Jato because they couldn't get DSL service from Qwest, they were left without broadband access. For a big ISP, this is a minor inconvenience, since they can usually just switch a customer over to another broadband provider. For a small ISP, such a setback can be disastrous, or even fatal if they're heavily dependent on a single vendor.

They're also at the mercy of monopolistic telcos. DimCom had to threaten legal action, and in fact filed a grievance with the Public Utilities Commission, against U S West in order to get their MegaBit circuit installed. (After all, U S West/Qwest offers its own Internet access; why would it want to provide broadband to a competitor, no matter how small?) It's conceivable that telcos could just sit on service orders from indy ISPs until they wither and die on the vine.

DimCom seems to have survived, however, and their service, from the first moment I signed on (7/97) to this day, has been superb. Even though I'm stuck on a dial-up account, and could move to a provider who offers DSL in my area, service and reliability are a hell of lot more important to me than speed. And aside from the large telcos, I can't think of a single DSL provider that has good long-term survival prospects. I'd rather stick with my trusty 56K modem, and have full net access (with a shell account!), then run at 256Kbps and worry about the circuit disappearing overnight.

All hail the little guys!

-Legion

Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that the Christian God passed judgement on everybody--otherwise, how do you determine who gets into Heaven, The Ultimate Playground? Mind you, I learned all this from a pretty dated source, so there could be an updated version that I haven't read yet or something. Of course, if you want to go pointing fingers at organizations bent on shackling freedoms...

But to your point. I'll assume that you're a fairly religious type of person, and you firmly believe that you'll be getting into heaven in due time. Why, then, does it matter one bit to you what us hopelessly lost souls do with our earthly time and money? You're gonna get into HEAVEN, man! Who cares if we drop a few bucks on rocket ships? What does it matter how earthly governments run their affairs? You're still gonna win out over us all!

(I know, I know, I shouldn't have...but look at the poor thing--he looks so hungry!)

IANALOJ (Or Judge), but I think this is incorrect. Judges at all levels have the right to determine the legality of a law. In fact, by your interpretation, it would be extremely difficult to overturn a law since merely losing a case isn't grounds for appeal. If I'm not mistaken, you must lose the case AND court procedure must have been violated (the merits of the law violated are not grounds for appeal). The Scopes trial is actually an excellent counter-example. The law may have been unconstitutional, but if the trial was legally valid (ie. the defendants rights were not violated), it would not be subject to appeal. In fact the Scopes trial was later won on appeal on the basis of a judicial error, not legal merit. (see http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/scop es.htm). Of course the losing party pretty much always has the right to appeal if a law is declared invalid, so rarely will the matter stop at a trial judge, but that doesn't mean they have no ability to overturn a law. Any Lawyers in the house, corrections are appreciated...

Wow. Two posts in two days... all for my favorite little series. First off all, below this is the FAQ as it currently stands. Second, here is the status of the long sought third OVA.

First of all, Tenchi is actually 13 different stories that have the same characters. The story types change from series to series. The OVA series (what is airing right now) is a bit of epic fantasy, sci-fi with sorta family dynamics, the next series that airs (Tenchi Universe or TV) is much more romantic, while Shin Tenchi (Tenchi in Tokyo) is just plain weird and bad.

I talked to Hiroki Hayashi (One of the co-creators of Tenchi Muyo) last week, and he said that AIC is committed to a new series, but director etc has not been picked yet. Masaki Kajishima (the other co-creator) will probibly be it. The only thing we know for sure, is that Hiroshi Negishi (the man who directed the TV series) will not be directing it.

Hiroki Hayashi will be at Nan-Desu-Kon this year. This is a _awesome_ con that takes place in colorado every year. Last year it was one of the best Conventions in the USA with a much better atmosphere then AX (Look at how big we are) and Otakon. He really is a nice guy, and it will be a lot of fun. More info here.

Anyways, here is Tenchi FAQ (REALLY REALLY BIG). As one huge document. Sorry, it is in word, have not had time to do a proper conversion on it.
Here it is . Spoilers be here . (People who read the FAQ last week, the novels section has been updated.

The creators of Tenchi Muyo have gone on to create other great series, such as Sol Bianca, Photon, Dual, El-Hazard, BGC 2040 and many other series.

Please don't bitch about the fact that it is in microsoft word. My linux box needs a new drive.

The intro to the interview (here, if you need it), compares Garbus to a modern day Daniel Webster. I'm not convinced; it seems to me that he has more of a Clarence Darrow case on his hands. (From the Scope Monkey Trial, if you don't remember him.) Both were dealing with a case of the PTBs trying to squelch what is (was) a novel idea, and should have been protected as Free speech. Of course, Darrow lost....

However, recently (read: starting a couple months ago) the quality dropped significantly. Bandwidth got worse and worse, and I was always getting disconnected. Finally, I ran into a problem where the downloads of certain files would just fail. Executables, game data files, whatever. Network geography had nothing to do with it; I think certain bit patterns were just freaking out their routers.

I called tech support, and they estimated a 20-minute wait. They had several options, Mac, Win95, WinNT, and "other" or maybe "UNIX" or something. I pushed "other" and waited. After waiting an hour, someone finally answered, and it turned out I had been transferred to "Windows".

I made the mistake of mentioning that I run Linux. He instantly went into the "that's not supported" mode, which I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with, except that he knew nothing about the Internet, or networking in general. I repeated numerous times that hostnames were getting resolved and that the problem was common across different sites. All the poor guy could suggest was changing my DNS servers and "contacting the administrator of the site in question". Argh.

I dumped Earthlink and switched to Dimensional, an ISP local to Colorado. $25/month gets me a static IP, a shell account, and a reliable connection. They actually say to call if you ever get a busy signal, so they can add more modems. With Earthlink, I was lucky if I could get past the busy signals.

I guess they just got too big...

Why would a Department of Commerce web page resolve to a cable modem user?

Okay, it *really* resolves to DOCUSER.osec.doc.gov, so it probably is a legitimate message from the Office of the Secretary for the Department of Commerce. But why does the META TAG contain "FREE KEVIN!" references?

I really, really want this to be true. I do not like having to put access controls on my unoffical Debian Kerberos packages, but at this moment in time we have a single document saying exactly what we want to hear... and it wasn't put up on slashdot until LONG after the contacts listed would be asleep.

And never forget that the US Government has a very long history of "the large print giveth, the fine print taketh away" in crypto policy. It will probably take the lawyers some time to figure out exactly what the new policy really means.

So don't pop the champagne yet... but definitely put it on ice so you'll be ready!

I'm surprised that anyone who runs an Internet-based venture (besides spammers themselves, that is) would not be happy to see more judgments like this. The problem, as mentioned in another thread, is that many small ISPs lack the legal resources (and cash) to pursue spammers for damages, even if they can find an attorney willing to take the case for a contingency fee. And spammers can be a shadowy lot--it takes an enormous amount of time and effort to track them down, and once they're found, they usually have moved on or closed their doors.

So kudos to AOL: they are, and have been, willing to put their legal team to work to pound spammers who abuse their network. Hopefully by using their corporate muscle, they can shut down the more inveterate spammers permanently and prevent them from victimizing smaller ISPs that don't have AOL's resources. I am not a big fan of AOL, but their spam-fighting efforts in the legal arena have usually been commendable.

Of course, AOL probably would not need to use such tactics if they would just provide their subscribers competent spam-filtering tools, but that's for another thread . . .

Hi Crispy,

I think I found your sig over at home cooking (aka 'burnt to a crisp' :)

cheers,

-matt

Please do me the favor of reading my draft proposal for Internet/Usenet profile-based collaborative rating. I believe it addresses most of the issues we're all concerned about.

It is on my Homepage in the INMP/NNMP section.

I have written and am polishing an Internet Draft to address this sort of problem for NNTP news, and it was primarily inspired by Slashdot.

Basically it allows everyone to moderate/rate/vote and then allows readers to select who's opinions will impact the presentation for themselves.

I think it's fairly concise and may be useful in this situation, and many others.

It's callen NNMP (NetNews Metadata Protocol):
http://www.dimensional.com/~xenon

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• For use with: PGP 5.x/6.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.pgpi.com/download/
• Description: This plugin integrates PGP with Microsoft Outlook Express 4 (not 5!). It is included in the PGP 6.0.2i distribution.

MacPGP Control 1.0

• Author: Raïf S. Naffah
• Category: Shell
• Platform: MacOS
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Shareware ($15)
• Homepage: http://www.deepeddy.com/pgp/
• Description: AppleScript application that offers an easy-to-use, more Macintosh friendly user interface to MacPGP 2.x.

MailPGP 1.3

• Author: Sami Tolvanen
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: lk32v310.zip
• Requires: mfc4.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.iki.fi/st/mailpgp/
• Description: MailPGP is an advanced, yet fast and easy-to-use Windows user interface for PGP. MailPGP conveniently integrates PGP with every program that uses the clipboard and does not require any space from the screen since the window can be minimized to the taskbar notification area. PGP is run on the background and the DOS window is shown only if necessary. You can encrypt, decrypt and sign messages on the clipboard just by clicking the taskbar icon. The most important key management functions are located on a pop-up menu. You can also easily encrypt and decrypt files by choosing them from a file dialog, or just by dragging and dropping one to the program window. Requires properly installed PGP 2.6.x or newer and mfc40.dll.

Mailcrypt 3.5.3

• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x/5.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.nb.net/~lbudney /linux/software/mailcrypt.html
• Description: Mailcrypt is an Emacs Lisp package which provides a simple interface to public key cryptography with PGP 2.x/5.x, as well as GnuPG.

MandelSteg and GIFExtract 1.0

• Author: Henry Hastur
• Category: Tool
• Platform: Unix / MS-DOS
• For use with: PGP 2.x/5.x/6.x
• Filename: MandSteg.tar.Z
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.unicorn.com/pgp/m-readme.html
• Description: These two programs allow you to hide confidential data in fractal GIF images, giving an increased level of security compared to sending PGP-encrypted email over the Internet.

Mollusc 1.0

• Author: Net Services
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 3.x/95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: mlsc100.exe
• License: Commercial, try before you buy
• Homepage: http://www.compulink.co.uk/~net-servi ces/pgp/
• Description: Direct interface to your e-mail software - you don't have to cut and paste. Extensive key management including Key Server functions. Mollusc currently supports Eudora Pro (v2.2 - 32 bit), Eudora Light (1.5.2 and 1.5.4), Pegasus Mail 2.40, WinCIM 2.0, Ameol, Free Agent and Netscape 1.2N.

PGP Encryptor Interface 1.1

• Author: John Navas
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpjn.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://web.aimnet.com/~jnavas/w inpmail/helpers.html
• Description: Integrates seamlessly into Pegasus Mail for Windows (Version 2.23 and above), making it easy to protect email messages with secure PGP public ke encryption and/or digital signatures. NB! Only works with the 16-bit versions of Pegasus Mail.

PGP Extension for Microsoft Exchange 1.10

• Author: Jon Whalen
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 3.x/95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpext.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://homepage.interaccess.com/~jon/
• Description: PGP Extension is an add-on for Microsoft Exchange that allows execution of basic PGP commands from the Exchange menu.

PGP Manager (16-bit) 1.3

• Author: Ollivier Civiol
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpman13.zip
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://www.voicenet.com/~jank/astec/ pgpman.htm
• Description: Sporting a friendly front-end, PGP Manager allows you to type in your message then Encrypt it and send it through the mail. PGP Manager Supports the Windows MAPI SubSystem. When an encrypted message is in your mailbox, it will show in the main combobox, click and read. PGP Manager requires PGP 2.6 and up (some functions require PGP 2.6.3i (multiple recipients)).

PGP Manager (32-bit) 2.2b

• Author: Ollivier Civiol
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpmgr22b.zip
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://www.voicenet.com/~jank/astec/ pgpman.htm
• Description: Sporting a friendly front-end, PGP Manager allows you to type in your message then Encrypt it and send it through the mail. PGP Manager Supports the Windows MAPI SubSystem. When an encrypted message is in your mailbox, it will show in the main combobox, click and read. PGP Manager requires PGP 2.6 and up (some functions require PGP 2.6.3i (multiple recipients)).

PGP QuickFront 1.0

• Author: Ross Barclay / Ugali International Corp.
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pqf.zip
• Requires: vbrun300.zip
• License: Shareware ($25)
• Homepage: http://www.netacce ss.on.ca/~rbarclay/ugali/crypt/quickfront.html
• Description: PGP QuickFront works as a companion to PGP WinFront. It uses the clipboard so thus can interface with any Windows application. The encryption and decryption is automatic. It also makes signatures and check signatures.

PGP REXX 1.2

• Author: Lueko Willms
• Category: Tool
• Platform: OS/2
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://nick.secant.com/pgprex.htm
• Description: PGP REXX consists of seven REXX scripts to automate PGP usage from your OS/2 internet mail program. PGP REXX works with Post Road Mailer, PMMAIL and MR/2 ICE.

PGP Windows 1.1

• Author: Roger Kurrat
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpwin11.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage:
• Description: PGP Windows offers an easy to use interface to PGP. Includes key management and clipboard integration.

PGP Winfront (16-bit) 3.1

• Author: Ugali International Corp.
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pwf31.zip
• Requires: vbrun300.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.netaccess .on.ca/~rbarclay/ugali/crypt/winfront.html
• Description: PWF provides a very efficient way of accessing the full functionality of PGP through an intuitive Windows interface.

PGP Winfront (32-bit) 4.0

• Author: Ugali International Corp.
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pwf32402.zip
• Requires: vbrun300.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.netaccess .on.ca/~rbarclay/ugali/crypt/winfront.html
• Description: PWF provides a very efficient way of accessing the full functionality of PGP through an intuitive Windows interface.

PGP-PM32 0.7 beta

• Author: Scott Renfro
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.sirinet.net/~srenfro/crypto. html
• Description: PGP add-on for 32-bit Pegasus Mail. Available from the author via email (US only): srenfro@silvix.sirinet.net.

PGP4Pine (aka PAPP)

• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~gator/pgp 4pine/
• Description: PGP4Pine, also known as "PAPP" ("Pine And PGP") is a Perl script to integrate pgp into the popular mail reader Pine.

PGPClick (16-bit) 2.5

• Author: Robert Wilson
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpclk16.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.ncinter.net/~rewilson/PGPClic k/
• Description: PGPClick was written to simplify use of PGP encryption for email applications. Once properly set up, most encryption and decryption can be accomplished with just one or two mouse clicks. PGPClick works well with email readers, newsreaders, text editors, word processors, and almost any program that edits text.

PGPClick (32-bit) 2.5

• Author: Robert Wilson
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpclk32.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.ncinter.net/~rewilson/PGPClic k/
• Description: PGPClick was written to simplify use of PGP encryption for email applications. Once properly set up, most encryption and decryption can be accomplished with just one or two mouse clicks. PGPClick works well with email readers, newsreaders, text editors, word processors, and almost any program that edits text.

PGPClip 1.4.4

• Author: Michael Meyer
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pcl1_1_4.zip
• Requires: vbrun300.zip
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://ourworld.compuserv e.com/homepages/michael_p_meyer/
• Description: PGPClip utilizes the clipboard for most PGP functions. Provides immediate desktop access to PGP functions.

PGPSort 1.0

• Author: Ståle Schumacher Ytteborg
• Category: Tool
• Platform: Unix / MS-DOS
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpsort.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: ftp://ftp.pgpi.com/pub/pgp/2.x/ pc/msdos/pgpsort.zip
• Description: Sorts PGP public keyrings and (optionally) removes bad keys.

PGPn123 (freeware) 1.0 beta 5

• Author: Alpha1 Enterprises
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pn123-05.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.pobox.com/~alpha1/epgpn123.htm
• Description: PGPn123 floats above your e-mail application in the form of a toolbar, making it possible to click a single button to sign, encrypt or decrypt your messages. PGPn123 has been found to work well with Eudora, Agent, Netscape, Pegasus, and a few other products.

PGPn123 (shareware) 1.8

• Author: Alpha1 Enterprises
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pn123e18.zip
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://www.pobox.com/~alpha1/epgpn123.htm
• Description: PGPn123 floats above your e-mail application in the form of a toolbar, making it possible to click a single button to sign, encrypt or decrypt your messages. PGPn123 has been found to work well with Eudora, Agent, Netscape, Pegasus, and a few other products.

PGPoMAGIC 2.4

• Author: Jens Bruhn
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pom24.zip
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://members.aol.com/PGPoMAGIC/
• Description: PGPoMAGIC features a "fast clip board" mode that allows you to highlight and capture text for encryption in any editable window. Decryption with only one mouse click. This version now supports things like networks (PGP may be somewhere in the net, the keyrings in an other directory and PoM may be in a third directory; all users can use PGP with their own configuration) and multiple keyrings

PGPsendmail 1.4

• Category: Tool
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: PGPsendmail-v1.4.tar.gz
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: ftp://ftp.ifi.uio.no/ pub/pgp/2.x/unix/PGPsendmail-v1.4.tar.gz
• Description: PGP-aware replacement for Unix sendmail.

PGPtoGUI

• Category: Shell
• Platform: Amiga
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: PGPtoGUIV2.0e.lha
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: ftp://ftp.wustl.edu/pub /aminet/util/crypt/PGPtoGUIV2.0e.lha
• Description: GUI for PGP

PGPwho

• Category: Tool
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpwho.gz
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: ftp://ftp.ifi.uio.no/pub/pgp/2.x/un ix/pgpwho.gz
• Description: Computes the signature distance to another person.

PMMail/2 2.0

• Author: SouthSoft, Inc.
• Category: Email client
• Platform: OS/2
• For use with: PGP 2.x/5.x
• License: Commercial (free demo available)
• Homepage: http://www.wilmington.net/bm tmicro/catalog/pmmail.html
• Description: PGP aware email client.

PgpEudra 1.02

• Author: Hans Bausewein / Comerwell Software
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 3.x/95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpeudra102.zip
• License: Freeware for personal use
• Homepage: http://www.xs4all.nl/~comerwel/pgpeudra/
• Description: PgpEudra is a PGP-shell that runs as an extension to Eudora. It adds a menu item "Run PGP..." to Eudora's "Message" menu, thereby making receiving and sending encrypted mail very easy. It supports just the basic PGP tasks encrypt, decode, sign and check signature. No copy and paste needed anymore. Works with both 16 and 32 bit versions of Eudora.

PowerPGP (16-bit) 2.0

• Author: Joe Fennin
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: ppgp2-16.zip
• License: Shareware ($20)
• Homepage: http://www.frontiernet.net/~jfeen in/powerpgp.html
• Description: PowerPGP lets you write and encrypt messages. After that you can cut and paste your message into any windows based e-mail program.

PowerPGP (32-bit) 2.20

• Author: Joe Fennin
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: ppgp2-32.zip
• License: Shareware ($20)
• Homepage: http://www.frontiernet.net/~jfeen in/powerpgp.html
• Description: PowerPGP lets you write and encrypt messages. After that you can cut and paste your message into any windows based e-mail program.

Private Idaho 2.8b3

• Author: Joel McNamara
• Category: Tool
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pi28b3.exe
• Requires: vbrun300.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/pi.html
• Description: A PGP/anonymous remailer utility for e-mail software. Supports direct sending of SMTP e-mail, as well direct receipt of PGP messages from POP3 mailboxes. Also supports multiple NYM servers, NYMS, multiple PGP keys for signing, etc., support for C2.org remailer, usenet posting through remailers, and more.

Privtool 0.90 beta

• Author: Mark Grant
• Category: Email client
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.unicorn.com/privtool/privt ool.html
• Description: Privtool is intended to be a PGP-aware replacement for the standard Sun Workstation mailtool program, with a similar user interface and automagick support for PGP-signing and PGP-encryption. Privtool runs on Linux and FreeBSD as well as SunOS and Solaris.

Pronto Secure 1.13

• Author: CommTouch Software Inc.
• Category: Email client
• Platform: Windows 3.x/95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://www.c ommtouch.com/commtouch/products/pronto_secure/psec ure.html
• Description: PGP-aware Windows POP reader.

QDPGP 2.60

• Author: Gerard R Thomas
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 5.x/6.x
• Filename: qdpgp.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.wow.net/community/grt/qdpgp. html
• Description: Email plugin for Pegasus Mail. Supports encryption/decryption, generation/verification of signatures, addition of public keys to keyring.

SafeMail 2.0 beta5

• Author: Highware, Inc.
• Category: Email client
• Platform: MacOS
• For use with: PGP 2.x/5.x/6.x
• License: Commercial
• Homepage: http://www.highware.com/main-sm.html
• Description: OpenPGP compatible email client.

Stealth 1.1

• Author: Henry Hastur
• Category: Tool
• Platform: Unix / MS-DOS
• For use with: PGP 2.x/5.x/6.x
• Filename: stealth.zip
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.unicorn.com/pgp/s-readme.html
• Description: Stealth is a simple filter for PGP which strips off all identifying header information to leave only the encrypted data in a format suitable for steganographic use.

WPGP 1.6

• Author: Jack Gostl
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: wpgp160.zip
• License: Shareware ($40)
• Homepage: http://www.panix.com/~jgostl/wpgp/
• Description: A Windows/PGP integration tool with a point and click interface between Windows applications and PGP. With WPGP, simply click on a window; WPGP will extract the text from that window, process it through PGP, and place the result back in the window. Includes a drag & drop file encryption interface.

WinPGP (16-bit) 4.1

• Author: Chris Geib / Geib Enterprises Network
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: pgpw41.zip
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/home pages/CGeib/
• Description: Allows you to access the features of PGP while remaining in Windows. Also supports directory encryption and has good key managment features.

WinPGP (32-bit) 5.0

• Author: Chris Geib / Geib Enterprises Network
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Windows 95/98/NT
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• Filename: winpgp5a.zip
• License: Shareware
• Homepage: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/home pages/CGeib/
• Description: Allows you to access the features of PGP while remaining in Windows. Also supports directory encryption and has good key managment features.

dirtypgp

• Author: Carsten Meyer (carsten.meyer@home.gelsen-net.de)
• Category: Shell
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://195.145.169.13/~cmeyer/dirtypgp
• Description: PGP 2.6.3i shell for X11.

elmpgp 2.4pl24

• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: ftp://ftp.cert.dfn. de/pub/tools/crypt/pgp/utils/elm/README.html
• Description: PGP interface for the elm mail reader.

pgp4pine

• Author: Chris Wiegand (cwiegant@urgentmail.com)
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x/5.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.dimensional.com /~cwiegand/linux/pgp4pine.html
• Description: PGP/GPG filter for pine, enabling you to manually and automatically decrypt and encrypt email messages.

psMail 1.1

• Author: Bill Cohee
• Category: Email client
• Platform: Windows 3.x
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://mville.edu:8000/~bcohee/psmail.ht ml
• Description: psMail (Pretty Secure Mail) is an offline mail manager designed for people who wish to send/receive encrypted email through their online service or Internet access provider. psMail is composed of two seperate modules; an Inbox and a OutBox. psMail:InBox manages and decrypts email sent to you. psMail:OutBox manages and encrypts email that you are going to send.

zmail PGP script

• Author: Aldo Valente
• Category: Email plugin
• Platform: Unix
• For use with: PGP 2.x
• License: Freeware
• Homepage: http://www.rhein.de/~aldo/zmail.html
• Description: Script for integrating PGP with zmail.

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