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[Quickies] would not be possible on E2 because Everything 2 does not allow <a href="...">external links</a>, only [hardlink]s within the E2 system.

What a crappy website!

Post proof or retract.

I was wrong about Goedel, but let's talk Turing.

Remember, you can use a TM to make statements or prove/disprove theorems about TMs.

Provided you have a longer tape. According to this page, a Turing machine has among its parts "a head that can read, write, and move along an infinitely long tape that is divided into cells" (strong mine). In the real world there is no such thing as infinite RAM. An emulator in general has to have more registers than the system it's emulating; otherwise, registers will spill to RAM, which is a Bad Thing for an emulator that runs at such a low level, unlike user-space game console emulators that can spare a few bytes.

Oh, BTW, the Brainfuck language is one of the smallest (eight instructions) Turing-complete languages in existence.

As far as generalizing this to all Open Source project, though, I'd have to disagree. It really depends on how focused the project leader is and how much 'me too' syndrome there is hovering around it.

If the project is fairly low-key, or the developers are strict, the project will get the features it needs and people itching to implement something unnecessary will either not know about the project in the first place or go find something else to do. (or maybe even make a fork)

With more lenient project leaders, it's much more succeptible to "feeping creaturism". Instead of becoming specialized for one area, it gets the kitchen sink.

I'm not saying either method is bad, just that it is possible for open source to produce the "blue bloods". I'm a code optimization / embedded systems junkie, so I like to use code size as an example. IIRC, Linux was first coded on a 386, then as the hardware got faster and the features creeped in, Linux grew. It still works on the older machines, but probably not as well as it used to. XFree86 is another of those quite spread-out projects. It works on diskless terminals, big SMP machines, and it can even be crammed into an embedded system like the iPaq. But, a GUI specially designed for small systems will always be better at running on small systems and there's no reason it can't be open source too.

Ack! I've been rambling!

One thing you forgot:
a seasonal reference.
(See Everything 2)

And I've certainly dl'd MP3's over 56kbps.

But you can't create them in the United States and several other countries without buying licensed software from a software firm that pays the MP3 encoder software patent license royalties, which are currently USD$15,000 for the first 6,000 units shipped yearly and USD$2.50 for each additional unit. This is why official LAME binaries will not be released before around 2010 (good thing what happened to copyright duration hasn't (yet) happened to patent duration). BTW, to compile LAME on Win32, get GCC for Windows.

If you think licensing fees are the problem, it's time for you to upgrade.

I agree totally. After having upgraded from MP3 to OggVorbis, the only MP3 files I encode are Wrapster archives containing .ogg files.

Unix is no longer an operating system. An operating system is the software that comes with a computer (or OS distribution) that programmers and users need to make themselves productive.

Unix is only a small part of that.

Last I checked an OS is:

"The three main purposes of an operating system are to attempt to schedule computational activities to ensure good performance of the computing system, they provide a convenient environment for the development and execution of programs, and convenience for the user. )

An operating system has four components. These four components are Resource Management, Hardware Control, Application Services and Applications" - Source Nia_Cial at everything2.com

So 1) this author is WAY off 2) even if Unix is defined by his diluted defination he is still WAY OFF!

I got 5-10 "OS" distrubation in the back room. If the "OS" is defined by "additional applications and functions that are required for it to run" then his statement: "Unix is only a small part of that" is way off, this guy is a dumb ass.

SuSE Linux 6.3 - 6 CDs PACKED with "Additional applications"

Freinds "custom" debain build 7 CD PACKED

Solaris 7 - 1 "os" disk and 2 CD's packed with applications (software disk 1 & 2)

Windows 95 b - 1 CD, half of which is taken up by a Weezer MPG movie

Windows 98 SE - 1 CD, half empty

MacOS 7.0 - 1 CD, half empty

So by this authors OWN defination he is complety fscking wrong, by the correct defination he is complely fscking wrong. Who is the fuck that gave him web space to put up this shit?

I am really starting to hate Mac users.

In reference to the iMac --
"MY COMPUTER IS GRAPE" -- penny-arcade.com

Had you posted this on Everything2 (another fine BSI site), you would have got a C! for that write-up.

Had you posted this on Everything2 (another fine BSI site), you would have got a C! for that write-up.

Uh, if you're going to post this, why not post something balanced, or at least post something comparable about the dirty tricks of the other side? Both major parties constantly participate in this kind of crap. The Republicans are harping on Gore's misstatements, the Dems are harping on Bush's misstatements. It's been going on for a long time, and both sides are guilty. How long did we have to hear about Qualye's "potatoe"?

Because the media's stance against Gore and for Bush has been extremely prevalent and incredibly consistent. This seems to me to be a perfect example of an "Emperor Wears No Clothes" kind of event: the media is by and large conservative, not liberal, and this campaign season only serves to prove this. Yes, there have been attacks from both sides. But by and large Bush has gotten off the hook on several major issues (such as the death penalty and other problems with the Texas judicial system, irregularities in his financial history [where did that jet come from again, Dubya?], and the powerlessness of the Texas governorship.) The conventional wisdom is that Gore is a liar, facts be damned, and this portrait keeps getting reinforced by the media. Meanwhile, GWB's own misstatements and/or lies get almost wholly ignored.

The "I invented the Internet" meme is a perfect example. Gore never said this, and taken contextually what he did say was wholly correct. But it has been repeated ad nauseum by pundits, reporters, and partisans until the general population believes that he did say this. Meanwhile, Bush's statement "...insurance - that's a Washington term" gets little if any discussion. This is amazing because that statement to me is absolutely incredible in its banality. Time and time again Bush says something that is just out and out moronic: "The woman who knew that I had dyslexia--I never interviewed her." Nevertheless, the media treats him like a god worthy of admiration, not someone's who intelligence should be seriously and thoroughly questioned.

This wouldn't bother me so much except that the gaffe count seems to be so lopsided. Gore makes misstatements that are, upon further investigation, honest mistakes. Ex: Travelling to Texas with the FEMA director; he mistook the exact date. But Gore's mistakes are much fewer than Bush's, and they are at least in grammatically correct English. But Bush... His list of moronic statements has its own lengthy page dedicated to them. Are these generally questioned? No. Instead we hear about what his policy advisors have cooked up with regarding prescription drugs whatever politically moderate group they happen to be courting this week.

Questioning Bush's intelligence is something that has gotten way, way too little attention, IMHO.

The following quote from E2 sums this up perfectly:

"And throughout it all, the United States: Rich, prosperous, myopic, magnificient in aggregate and petty in specifics, unwilling -- always, always -- to accord respect to the mind. To good fortune, to luck, to rugged individualism, to faith in God, to patriotism, to beauty, to spunk or pluck or grit or git, but never to complex intellegence and complex thought."
-- from Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress

The best way to do this is to make them self-reproducing. The one slight problem with this is that when you have a microscobic devive that will reproduce, it is possible to lose control of it. If this happens, they reproduce like bacteria, except there isn't penicillin.

The ultimate conclusion is that they are numbered in the trillions, and the earth is overcome with Grey Goo.

Beware of nanotechnology.

Prepare for it.

Pessimists see optimists' minds as three-quarters empty.

I often dream of being a tall, slender plumber in green and blue clothes. I can jump higher than my brother, but he seems to be better in sprints.

And then I was Lampwick, Pinocchio's partner in some weird James Bond-style spy adventure.

And then I discovered a race of Precious Moments kids.

The Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act exploits a loophole in the Constitution that makes "the lifetime of the Universe" a valid value for "limited times" in the copyright clause. It's all part of the slippery slope to make copyright perpetual. This must be stopped; click here to help.
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The Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act exploits a loophole in the Constitution that makes "the lifetime of the Universe" a valid value for "limited times" in the copyright clause. It's all part of the slippery slope to make copyright perpetual. This must be stopped; click here to help.
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The Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act exploits a loophole in the Constitution that makes "the lifetime of the Universe" a valid value for "limited times" in the copyright clause. It's all part of the slippery slope to make copyright perpetual. This must be stopped; click here to help.
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The Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act exploits a loophole in the Constitution that makes "the lifetime of the Universe" a valid value for "limited times" in the copyright clause. It's all part of the slippery slope to make copyright perpetual. This must be stopped; click here to help.
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Oh, believe me, they are adding support for quite a lot

The Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act was Disney's idea. Have you ever noticed how copyright extensions always come just in time before "Steamboat Willie" (first Mickey Mouse cartoon) goes PD?

Yes, perpetual copyright is constitutional.

...is that he is President of ITAA (and we know how organizations ending in "AA" behave).
Honesty I do not think Lawrence Lessig got enough credit. I watched and heard him debate with Jack Velenti last week and his argument in many ways seemed parallel the views of RMS (and we all know RMS is never wrong).
Lessig is undoubtedly more knowledgeable than any of the other candidates in the legal field and probably more intelligent. Legal knowledge is especially important in forming policies for litigious American society. I think it is better to have an intelligent person who may be less familiar with some specific issues than someone less intelligent who may not see the enduring consequences of their actions.

I wouldn't call it competition or even ironic, if anything they are complementary - H2G2 could never hope to approach the accumulated geek knowledge contained within the nodes of Everything2 and, although Everything2 has its share of amusing entries it could never surpass the depth of humour that H2G2 manages.
H2G2 tries and succeeds at inducing guffaws while maintaining a smattering of fact, it is in the very nature of DNA fans (who make up the majority of H2G2 researchers) to find the humour in the mundane. Everything2 is a resource at heart whose noders are geeks and techies and while many of them are also DNA fans the nodes emphasize fact with an amusing edge. Kudos to the many busy noders and researchers out there who keep the two site growing.

Hai. So Desu. Gomen-Nasi.....
I meant that it was ironic that Hemos linked to Everything2, in order to explain an aspect of Hitchhiker's Guide Earth Edition. These two companies are the main players in this new market of User writeups on life. Also in this market is the startup E-Pinions
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Did anyone else find it ironic that Hemos posted a link to Everything2, the main competition HitchHikers Guide Earth Edition, where this information is hosted?

*smirks*
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babelfish wouldnt translate it into german. everything2 doesnt know it, too. what does it mean? and btw, how can i open a thread on /.? i only found the reply-link...

Yes, which is why -- repeat after me -- the web is not the internet. Yes, "the web" is mostly a non-interactive, eyeball-driven, point-and-drool, entertainment-for-the-masses medium. I'd say that /. and k5 and other
community-driven weblogs are the closest you'll find to breaking that paradigm. On the web.

Ever tried to get any information out of slashdot (I mean really get any sizeable information out of it that can be access a month or more after a sotry is posted). I have tried to deal with this problem. Slashdot just dosn't scale well to getting long term access to information. What would be closer to better access for information to achieve in an archieved method is almost, kindof, not quite there at e2. Although it dosn't lend itself well to noninteractive retrieval means (get's stuck in a rather anoying infinite loop on a random node link for your information).

However, there's still Usenet, there's still MOO, there's still email ... there's still a lot of things. I wouldn't knock the idea of a "virtual community" that quickly. Most of the people I consider my closest friends in the
world are part of my "online" community.

Usenet started dieing after the emergence of many of the sites like slashdot and it's use of a very unreliable protocol for transporting information around.

There is far too much control over the mechanism involved and too much propensity for error. The utility is extremely low hell you're not even guaranteed to get all your messages. Also you have to be "subscribed" to a server to allow for access. There aren't in fact archives of all the data in question. Very bad karma.

What would make it much better is if you could access any information you wanted and post anything you wanted via any open portal that had everything that was sent into the system instead of relying on the famed "generosity" of sysadmins. Slashdot is a good method of this but it's too centralized and too prone to be ruined by some unforseen event. Now if you took a protocol like a search engine/napster method but allowed for many access points using rudimentary interfaces on the web accessible via text based machines then you would truly have something.

I have always seen usenet's exclusiveness as a means to "keep the rabble out" more or less. You don't have any guarantees and there is no guarantee of point to point communication pure and simple.

MOOs are created around a central point and are still not very reliable.

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Here we go again.

This is what I imagine happening: based upon this report, the media will give this issue increased focus, especially in light of recent "backlash" against the Internet. Primetime Live and/or 20/20 will do a "story" on the drug culture and how bad it is, focusing on the minority who are stupid enough to stick needles in their arms, etc. The talking heads will go in to full sanctimonious mode, bemoaning the decline of modern culture and the need for tougher law enforcement. "Experts" will be interviewing talking about trends in drug use, socioeconomic status, and so on.

Absolutely no attention will be paid to the civil liberty aspect of drug use, nor the inability of the Cult of Prohibition to fix the so-called problem. Focus on geeks will subtly shift from their hacking activities to their personal drug use. A new characteristic will be added to the stereotype of "hacker": that of an acid or pot head, dirty and even more criminal.

Fuck all of 'em. I make $78k/yr and smoke pot. I have a family, and a house, and I'm a clean freak. The idiotic and sheeplike masses might buy into you're anti-drug propaganda, but I am an evolved being. I *know* it's all lies.

Hehe! Unless those [ ] marks used in this story are actually there for some other reason, that I've possibly missed, which wouldn't be suprising, then it looks like Everything2 has permeated into timothy's soul. ;)

Emanuel Goldstein was the name of the person who 'escaped' in Orwell's (yet another alias) classic 1984. He wrote a manifesto explaining the realities of the world under Big Brother which O'Brian gives Winston to read. He was a symbol of 'the underground'.

If you want more info, check everything2 or search the web with your favorite search engine for more info . . .

You can also read this for a story similar to Orwells.

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This is a great thing for those of use that use laptops on a daily basis and hope to use use *nix-based handhelds soon... at least here in the USA... to keep over-zealous law-enforcment officials at bay;

Now, IAMAL[?], but here is how I got it explained to me: Items on your person fall under the dictates of law governing search and siezure. If you have a cabinet in your home, the police are allowed to search is if they have probable cause; but if you have a safe in you your home, you are not required to volunteer the combination to it without a subpeona. Goes the same for passwords and crypto, too, AFAIK. They can put me in the squad car, but until they get a court order, I don't have to tell them the password to my PDA or my GPG/PGP secret key passphrase.

This is a good thing, because an over-zealous officer could start dinking around on you laptop and find some incrimitation evidence (violating S&C Law), but tell the judge that he found 'by accident'. Who is the judge going to believe? But if you have it all locked up tight, nothing short of a circuit court judge can force you to unlock it.

And please not my gratuitous use of the phrase 'over-zealous'. The VAST majority of law officers are decent human beings - its just those choice few emmy-award winners that makes everyones life hell.

At the very least put a pasword on your PDA, laptop, and modified-laptop-car-MP3-Player. Especially the MP3 player -- Ms. Spears would be so pissed if she found out I downloaded all 50 remixes of "I'm a closet dyke" off Napster :)

Here is yet another explanation of moore's law, and who Moore is, on Everything2.

Here is yet another explanation of moore's law, and who Moore is, on Everything2.

the idea of a Slashdot softball team is pretty amusing

the idea of a Slashdot softball team is pretty amusing

Waiting a century for Project Gutenberg to pick things up once the copyright expires just isn't the answer.

Tell me about it. Here's everything you always wanted to know about the Sonny Bono Copyright Theft Act.* It's all a ploy to keep Walt Disney's Company's copyright on one cartoon, "Steamboat Willie" (the first Mickey Mouse cartoon).

Jeezus...You really worship Bill, don't ya?

But anyway. Bill's right. It's ok to rape the consumer, steal other people's ideas, buy or destroy the competitor...Just as long as you don't copy *Bill's* software.
The fuckin' amerikan way, right? Money rules, fuckin' sue em' if they don't like it.

You stupid fucks really don't 'get it', do you? Despite what the Rev. Bill may have preached to you, money isn't everything.

Richard Fuckin' Gere
Hey! Check it out! You're a karma whore and I'm a troll!
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the union of "Unix" and "Not Unix" is "everything"

OK, here's the UNIX web site.
Here's the GNU's Not UNIX web site.
Neither of those sites has everything.

The "life + 70" figure (doesn't that sound like a prison sentence for free speech?) comes from the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, also known as the Copyright Theft Act.
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• You moderated. There are several trolls out there who are trying to squash the moderation system by M2ing all moderations "unfair" to discourage the moderators from doing their job.
• Karma pack rape. A comment that irritates a lot of trolls might irritate a few with M1 points so much that they go to your User Info page and moderate down your last 50 comments. (Something similar has happened to Everything2.)

• You moderated. There are several trolls out there who are trying to squash the moderation system by M2ing all moderations "unfair" to discourage the moderators from doing their job.
• Karma pack rape. A comment that irritates a lot of trolls might irritate a few with M1 points so much that they go to your User Info page and moderate down your last 50 comments. (Something similar has happened to Everything2.)

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• Make sure that it still looks good when you delete all <table> and related tags. A left-navigated (like PinEight.com) or right-navigated (like BSI's Everything2) two-column layout works nicely.
• Make sure that it still looks good when you remove the /images directory (or whatever your site uses for its graphics).
• Make sure it doesn't require ECMAScript (the language formerly known as Java®Script) or Java® applets.
• Most recent text browsers handle client-side imagemaps properly (given good alt= text) but there is a patch to make server-side image maps work on any browser.
  
  And most importantly:
• Test your work on as many browsers as you can find, even telnet to port 80 :-)

2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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2000-09-08 01:49:27 Space Elevators in 50 Years (articles,science) (rejected)

I posted the following article text last night, and the apes decided that this story description was better? That's it - I give up on story submissions.

"Nasa Science has an article on the practical details of what would be needed to begin the construction of a space elevator (as envisioned by Arthur C. Clarke) as early as 50 years from now. Based on the results of a space infrastructure conference held at the Marshall Space Flight Center last year, this is when they predict the technology should be available to make this idea a reality.

David Smitherman is a scientist at the NASA/Marshall's Advanced Projects Office, where he wrote the publication "Space Elevators: An Advanced Earth-Space Infrastructure for the New Millennium", which outlines many of the practical details for the construction of a space elevator, while giving much credit to Arthur C. Clarke for having imagined the idea decades ago in his book "Fountains of Paradise".

A space shuttle payload could be lifted to orbit for around $17,700, while a passenger (plus luggage) could see the entire earth from far above for around $200. Based on this, the cost to "lift" something to space would only be about $1.48/kg. I'll reserve my seat today... What an awesome view that would be to see during my retirement! "

I'm saving any future useful information for everything, where the site design doesn't include hasty filtering to "keep up" with the submissions, and where XP (everything's version of karma) actually is designed well and has meaning.

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