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  1. Re:Electricity by whoever57 · · Score: 1 · on EU Telecom Deal Finished — No Three Strikes

    No, the first such laws were for felonies - after the third felony (murder, armed robbery, rape, etc.) you got life in prison.

    Maybe that was what people expected, but in CA, what happens is that people get locked away for life for 3 minor crimes (for example, shoplifting and other minor offenses).

  2. Re:Am I missing something or by rtechie · · Score: 1 · on Hans Reiser To Reveal Location of Wife's Body

    Even IF what you say is true (and I dispute that--feel free to provide some backing evidence), for what you say to have any relevance at all, there would have to be collusion between all lawyers
    (defense+prosecuting), judges, police, and Big Prison Co. Is that really what you're claiming? You're disputing the existence of private for-profit prisons in the USA? Yes, they exist. No, I'm not going to give you a link. Use Google. Is your question whether or not they lobby the government? The answer again, is yes. Look up donor lists.Are prosecutors, police and prison industry colluding? Yes. The police and prison guard unions lobby heavily for longer sentences, more prisons, etc. in part because the private prison industry generally pays guards better and give the unions money. For many DAs their largest campaign donors are the police unions and prison industry. Are defense attorneys and judges collaborating with the prison industry? NO! They have generally lobbied against such laws, usually represented by the local Bar. Are you disputing that prisons make more money the longer a person is locked up? That's obvious.

    So here's the question: Does the prison industry lobby specifically for longer sentences? YES. The prison industry here in California campaigned heavily for the so-called "3 strikes" law that drastically increased prison sentences and prison population in California.

    So to be precise I am claiming that prison companies lobby state legislatures, Congress, and promote ballot initiatives that increase prison sentences. Not just in general, but also for specific crimes, like sex crimes. The only conceivable reason they are doing this is to make more money. You're the only person I've ever talked to that seriously questioned this.

  3. Research the facts before calling me a moron. by Cocoshimmy · · Score: 1 · on China Jails Porn Site Leader For Life
    Those laws only apply to felony CONVICTIONS. Moron. 3 felonies, you're out.
    In many states the definition of felony varies. In California specifically, petty theft is often considered a felony. Check your facts before calling me a moron, moron!

    Here is another link which shows how rediculous this law is. From the page you'll see people getting life sentences for stealing a spare tire, stealing some CDs or stealing a slice of pizza.
  4. Re:And the world wept by UnrefinedLayman · · Score: 2, Insightful · on SEC Investigating SCO?

    The difference between penalties someone cultivating marijuana for their own use and someone cultivating it for sale is non-existent. Impartiality means we convict a cancer patient of cultivation and intent to distribute the same as a con. That is unjust.

    Impartiality means we send someone to prison for the rest of their natural life under the Three Strikes law for shoplifting $2.69 worth of batteries. (Believe it: http://www.facts1.com/ThreeStrikes/Stories/)

    I believe that answers your question; please let me know otherwise.

  5. Felony by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Interesting · on UCSB Student Engineers Grade Hack

    I find it bad, that changing your grade counted as 4 counts felony.

    3 Strikes and you can goto prison for life, its no longer just 3 dangerous felonies see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony

    http://www.facts1.com has some good info on how the law is abused. Then put mandatory sentencing on top, you really get ground up in the system...

    She can loose her right to vote, her DNA kept on file as a criminal, she is now considered a dangerous criminal in the eyes of the law.

    Hey, she could get busted for smoking a joint, or filling out a DMV record incorrect and serve 25 years in prison. Thanks to 3 strike laws.

    But hey, you feel safe now, right?

  6. Re:You'll never hear about the smart criminals. by jfern · · Score: 1 · on A How-Not-To Guide to Cyber-Extortion

    You're wrong. Because of a prior felony record, crimes that wouldn't otherwise be a felony become a felony. He stole one slice of pepporoni pizza.

    See here

  7. Re:3 strikes by Jeremi · · Score: 2, Informative · on The Worst Jobs in Science
    Show me one documented time this has _ever_ happened.


    Okay, here are one hundred and fifty documented third-strike outcomes -- life sentences, for such offences as as "waslking away from fire camp", "filling out a false DMV application", "shoplifting of a baseball glove", etc.


    As an aside, I think the three strikes law has a good idea at its root, but it is implemented way too bluntly. Instead of an oversimplified-to-the-point-of-injustice "third conviction gets you life in prison" rule (which is the rule only because people in the US like baseball and a good sound-bite!), we should consider something like "every previous crime on your record results in a doubling of the prison sentence for subsequent crimes"... so, for example, if shoplifting normally would get you two weeks in jail, then shoplifting with a prior conviction would get you four weeks, with two priors -- eight weeks, and so on. This would avoid ridiculously long sentences for minor crimes, except in cases of extreme recidivism.

  8. Re:Warped world view.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on UK Makes Spamming a Fineable Offense

    A teary-eyed whiteteenager gets a year for killing and maming. How much should the black guy get for stealing pizza?

  9. Re:A Great Example by benedict · · Score: 2 · on Expose on Insider Loans

    Look at all the idiots here who think that
    corporate fraud is peachy-keen. These aren't
    original thinkers: wittingly or not, they are
    parroting ideas promoted by the economic right
    wing, from Rush Limbaugh to the Cato Institute.
    These court philosophers to the kings of capital
    have managed to shift discourse in this country
    dramatically to the right over the last 30 years.
    Largely with the help of the "liberal" media.

    That's why you get more of a jail term for
    stealing a pizza than for
    participating in a crime ring that steals $1.1
    billion.

  10. Reality vs Politics by smiff · · Score: 2 · on Microsoft Planning Digital Restrictions Server
    > "Running non-secure software will become a federal offense punishable by life in prison or worse" Yeah you'll be executed for warez. Goddamnit, get a grip on reality.

    Could you please relay that message to your senators and representatives? In 1900, Coca-Cola put cocaine in their soft drinks. In 1991, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a mandatory sentence of life-without-parole for possessing 0.672 kilos of cocaine was not "cruel and unusual". Our government is quite capable of handing out outrageous sentences for petty offenses.