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Re:I wish the US Supreme Court was that smart.
Now days if, for example, the entire population of new york fought against the US army the whole place could be turned into a blackened crater in the space of a few hours.
Even assuming the army would be uniformly willing to do that, the US Government would then certainly face a general revolution. I know there are some stupid people in the government but I still have more confidence in them than to think they would order the destruction of any major US city. Many in the armed services take their pledge to defend the constitution quite seriously and would immediately turn against anyone who tried to establish a military dictatorship. This is unlikely to happen ever.
The fact is that the police can bring more guns to bear
...Rubbish. The police are vastly outnumbered and require the cooperation of the public for the performance of their duties. Total number of FBI employees: 28,576. Total number of BATF employees (2006): 4,559. USA population (2008 estimate): 305,421,000. Really, think before you post. What's wrong with you people?
and the penalties for using them on police, which you can bet would unofficially include long hours with the camera turned off and a taser being used inventively, are too high for most people to take that option.
If you take up arms without accepting that you may die, you're a fool. If you take up arms against the government without the popular support needed to win, you are exactly the type of batshit crazy idiot the media make such people out to be.
Here's the thing that needs to be dealt with before anyone reaches for their gun. The actions of the governments aren't suprising, government power increases towards tyranny, that has long been observed, understood and predicted. The real question is what on earth is wrong with the juries? How are the governments getting these convictions when they have to pass them by 12 citizens. For as long as the government can easily find passive juries that will comply with the states demand for unjust convictions then resistance has no chance. If the government couldn't find those willing juries, armed resistance would probably be unnecessary. Probably, but don't give up your insurance policy. -
Re:Criminal Minds
Actually, the guy is Moroccan.
See also: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/cyber/echouafni_s.htm
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Re:Revoke
Maybe he can run a lemonade stand.
Well, right now, he's running... like the fugitive scum that he is.
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Which databases?
There are multiple databases at the state level and, at the federal level, NCIC is the one that contains warrant information. Many times a request goes out from NCIC (and other similar systems at CJIS) and days or months go by without a state returning information to the system operators so they can update records. Requests go out to courts and DAs without timely responses. The accuracy of the federal databases are therefore held at the whim of the state agencies and their personnel. The feds make attempts to keep their databases up-to-date but without state support it isn't going to happen. There are many other federal databases however beyond NCIC which hold other types of data and whose personnel communicate with other federal level agencies to maintain accuracy (e.g. BATF) which do have their own problems.
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Re:I'm all for it
Looks like it's in the ballpark. The FBI says 1.1 million vehicles were stolen in 2007.
Source: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses/property_crime/motor_vehicle_theft.html
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Meaningless?!
The most interesting quote here "Authorities say no personal information will be stored or transmitted by the chip, only an ID number that will be meaningless to anyone but DHS."
That ID number can be cloned unless you have Verayo Physical Unclonable Functions (PUF) which still have to be proven in the real world:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/08/1710237
My real worry about any RFID is cloning and spoofing since now I can be anyone without having someone check who I really am.
Meanwhile, you can clone James J. Bulger's ID:
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Re:Did the editor read the last paragraph?
In November, the city withdrew its demand that Reisinger not link to city government sites.
SO um, what's the issue?Hint: not the city's eventual respect of the victim's unalienable legal right to free speech.
Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 ..."makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same)." It's a felony, not water under the bridge. -
I have to keep posting this
Bin Laden is not wanted by the FBI for WTC and never has been :
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Re:Makes parent open minded/observant, and you she
That argument makes as much sense as, technicalities of how much bin Laden was actually involved aside, of, say, a hypothetical situation where a leader of a foreign nation ordered air strikes on California being put on the FBI 10 most wanted.
What point are you trying to make with bin Laden not being on the FBI 10 most wanted list? That is somehow proves that the FBI secretly knows 9/11 was a hoax and they are trying to hint to that fact? Please.
Of course, there are some problems with my argument; special allowances have been made. I'm trying to show possible reasons he wouldn't be on.
The actual reality is, you're just parroting bullshit, because he is on the top 10 most wanted list!
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm
WHAM!
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Jay Echouafni - DDOS for $$$ and still at largeIs Saad (Jay) Echouafni the most infamous cyber fugitive who never saw the inside of a jail cell?
He made the FBI's Top 10 most wanted list and is still a FBI cyber fugitive probably living in his native Morocco now.
Starting in 2003 he paid for DDoS attacks on his online Satellite TV retailer competition. These DDoS attacks did collateral damage on the various hosting and CDNs providers that these competitors turned to for support. The costs were estimated to be as high as $2,000,000 by Attorney General John Ashcroft. The prosecutor for the case, assistant U.S. attorney Arif Alikhan, head of the Los Angeles computer crimes section, said: "I think it's the first case of its kind involving a DDoS for commercial advantage or for hire,
..."An update to older coverage. In 2005, criminal complaints against those techincally involved were dismissed
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Title 18, USC, Sections 241, 242Unless they have prior felony convictions, the members of the RNC Welcoming Committee all have the right to bear arms.
On Saturday afternoon, he displayed a number of the confiscated items: a gun, throwing knives, a bow and arrows, flammable liquids, paint, slingshots, rocks and buckets of urine.
"We know these things were going to be used as weapons," Fletcher said, a charge protesters and their advocates vigorously disputed.
Fletcher however, stressed that he and other agencies had informants planted inside this and other groups for "a long period of time."Clearly, somebody is guilty of conspiracy here. I wonder whether it's the activists or the fuzz, but after reading the Star Tribune article, the arrests look legit and the anarchists look dirty. I also suspect that they're criminals. Responsible gun owners never store their buckets of urine nearby. Corrosion.
But then, Salon includes a very important detail that the Star Tribune omitted: the cops never presented a warrant! Because they failed to present a warrant, Title 18, USC, Section 242 says they were "acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S."In the house that had just been raided, those inside described how a team of roughly 25 officers had barged into their homes with masks and black swat gear, holding large semi-automatic rifles, and ordered them to lie on the floor, where they were handcuffed and ordered not to move. The officers refused to state why they were there and, until the very end, refused to show whether they had a search warrant. They were forced to remain on the floor for 45 minutes while the officers took away the laptops, computers, individual journals, and political materials kept in the house. One of the individuals renting the house, an 18-year-old woman, was extremely shaken as she and others described how the officers were deliberately making intimidating statements such as "Do you have Terminator ready?" as they lay on the floor in handcuffs.
I hope that the fraudulent arrests are prosecuted as kidnapping, committed during conspiracy against rights.
Title 18, USC, Section 241Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 Conspiracy Against Rights
This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).
It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.
Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.These jack-booted thugs need to be reminded who they're responsible to protect and serve. If standing trial for a death penalty offense doesn't put them in line, convict and execute.
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Title 18, USC, Sections 241, 242Unless they have prior felony convictions, the members of the RNC Welcoming Committee all have the right to bear arms.
On Saturday afternoon, he displayed a number of the confiscated items: a gun, throwing knives, a bow and arrows, flammable liquids, paint, slingshots, rocks and buckets of urine.
"We know these things were going to be used as weapons," Fletcher said, a charge protesters and their advocates vigorously disputed.
Fletcher however, stressed that he and other agencies had informants planted inside this and other groups for "a long period of time."Clearly, somebody is guilty of conspiracy here. I wonder whether it's the activists or the fuzz, but after reading the Star Tribune article, the arrests look legit and the anarchists look dirty. I also suspect that they're criminals. Responsible gun owners never store their buckets of urine nearby. Corrosion.
But then, Salon includes a very important detail that the Star Tribune omitted: the cops never presented a warrant! Because they failed to present a warrant, Title 18, USC, Section 242 says they were "acting under color of law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom to willfully deprive or cause to be deprived from any person those rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution and laws of the U.S."In the house that had just been raided, those inside described how a team of roughly 25 officers had barged into their homes with masks and black swat gear, holding large semi-automatic rifles, and ordered them to lie on the floor, where they were handcuffed and ordered not to move. The officers refused to state why they were there and, until the very end, refused to show whether they had a search warrant. They were forced to remain on the floor for 45 minutes while the officers took away the laptops, computers, individual journals, and political materials kept in the house. One of the individuals renting the house, an 18-year-old woman, was extremely shaken as she and others described how the officers were deliberately making intimidating statements such as "Do you have Terminator ready?" as they lay on the floor in handcuffs.
I hope that the fraudulent arrests are prosecuted as kidnapping, committed during conspiracy against rights.
Title 18, USC, Section 241Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 Conspiracy Against Rights
This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).
It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.
Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.These jack-booted thugs need to be reminded who they're responsible to protect and serve. If standing trial for a death penalty offense doesn't put them in line, convict and execute.
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Re:I'M NOT LEAVING NEW ORLEANS
Except those darker-skinned negroes actually bring a lot of crime and poverty with them: http://www.colorofcrime.com/.
Of course, if you don't believe those "racist" claims, then you can crunch the data yourself from the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports in which arrests are broken down by racial group.
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Re:Irrelevant
I was glued to the TV and radio while all this was going down and I'm sure you were too. I heard the announcement that WTC7 was going to be pulled shortly before it was. But yes, it does take a lot of planning to demolish a building... properly. But the act of setting explosives and the like without getting planning and permits and all that nonsense, I believe a building probably only needs a few hours to prepare... you gotta know there's probably a lot of overhead that could be skipped.
But one thing I think is really interesting about these discussions is that there is a constant and consistent miscommunication with regards to certain assumptions about what is being said. For example, when the whole "pull it" thing got started, the presumption was that the firefighters were the demolition people. That's a pretty wild assumption and not likely that anyone has ever suggested it. The next assumption would be that a team was sent in to place the explosives and get out. That's not an event of record, so truly the only logical presumption could be that the explostives were planted prior to September 11, 2001... and interestingly enough, there is the testimony of at least one IT person in that building that shows exactly when the opportunity for that came about. And I haven't heard any follow-up on that story to determine if electrical work done on that building could be verified as bonafide electrical work... did anyone identify the electrical company or contractor or any of their employees about the event? I don't know. Another interesting thing that people keep confusing is about the mention of molten metal. Yes, we KNOW steel can be weakened and made malleable at much lower temperatures, so no one is saying that the steel of the building had to be liquified to cause the structural failures of the buildings. What people are ACTUALLY pointing to is that something VERY hot and VERY fast was used to cut the steel supports to bring the building down and that the liquified metal, that wouldn't appear when a building is being weakened by ordinary fire, is the result of the application of something used to destroy the steel supports of the building... in this case, people are asserting that thermite was used as the means by which the columns were severed and to bring the buildings down. So the presence of molten steel isn't the indication that people claim that it is. The "weakened steel" argument is not adequate to debunk the argument that there was molten steel found and reported by several independent sources at ground-zero during the aftermath. (And there's the odd angular cut on several of the support beams... there are pictures of it on various web sites... it looks like someone whacked them off with a lightsaber or something... dribbles of previously molten steel shown solidified in the eds\ges of the cut and all that. Some might suggest those cuts were made during the clean-up, but the angle is so weird that the only welder I know thought it was very unusual indeed to cut the steel that way for removal and clean-up purposes, but I'm very open to hear other opinions on that as well.)
There's no question that the September 11 attacks were premeditated and carefully planned mass murder... the real question is who is responsible. We want to say Al Qaeda, but to this day, Al Qaeda does not accept responsibility and does not claim to have perpetrated the attack. (And they are pretty good at claiming the attacks they ARE responsible for too.) And to this day, they have non hard evidence to support Al Qaeda's involvement and more specifically, Osama Bin Laden's involvement... and interestingly, he's still not mentioned here: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm either. Several government people claimed they would produce the evidence they have against Bin Laden, but after all this time still haven't produced it, so in spite of everything else we have on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, we don't have a clear connection betw
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Re:One Wonders Why the FBI Wants This
The FBI is a law enforcement agency, not an foreign or even a domestic intelligence gathering agency.
Oh but the FBI is a counterintelligence agency. Legally the CIA can not spy in the US, that's the FBI's bailiwick.
Falcon
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Re:A note from here in MexicoI had a student once tell me she doesn't want to go to the US because, as you know, there are hundreds of nutcase students with guns who kill classmates at random.
Kidnapping is the Mexican version of the same thing. It happens, at most, extremely rarely. You are far more likely to get hit by a car,
between 2002 and 2006, the Mexican government was able to...dismantle a lot of kidnapping rings
.There is nothing random about extortion --- the victim's family will be extraordinarily wealthy by Mexican standards --- a very small sub-set of the general population.
You would have to go very far back in U.S.history to find anything resembling an extortion "kidnapping ring." The response to the Lindbergh kidnapping in 1034 made this a very dangerous business to enter. The Lindbergh Kidnapping
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Re:The devil is in the details
...if you can think of a system where there is legitimate need for anonymity, then that system isn't totally free.
I don't know about "system" level, but a society and community (town or global) is more than the systems that make it up. People have been lynched for less. See the Bible Belt and the American South, even in the last ten years. I don't want to write details here, but sometimes people die. And never well. From http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/incidents.html:
Of the 9,080 reported hate crime offenses in [the U.S. in] 2006: * 32.1 percent were destruction/damage/vandalism. * 27.6 percent were intimidation. * 19.1 percent were simple assault. * 13.0 percent were aggravated assault. * The remaining 8.2 percent of hate crimes were comprised of additional crimes against persons, property, and society.
That makes 1180.4 aggravated assaults reported as hate crime. I don't think deaths are common, but who wants their life fucked with? And this is just the U.S.
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Re:I Love Kiddie Porn
What is your favorite kiddie porn website?
The best place to express your desires for pedo material.
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Re:UAV missions more demanding that you might expe
"Didn't play ball? I'd say. They harbored Osama Bin Laden."
So? Osama had nothing to do with 911. Even the FBI only consider him a suspect, and don't even mention 911 on his 'most wanted' page.
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Who are the "co-conspirators"?
The FBI press release says that "the indictment charges one count of conspiracy and three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization". Conspiracy with whom? The indictment alleges that there were "co-conspirators", but who are they?
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You're crazy
You're a real radfem, aren't you?
In the United States, odds are that 1 in 6 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime.
First, I don't believe the RAINN stats on rape. I don't believe that so many women get raped. I checked RAINN's sources and they don't really tell you where exactly they get their statistics. They do give a long list of different studies they supposedly used to get their numbers here:
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims
but you really can't find where that 1 in 6 number comes from. They don't tell you that. They don't tell you because it's not a valid statistic. It's a product of the imaginations of the paranoid people working at RAINN. RAINN is full of radicals who are just looking for ways to inflate sex assault statistics to epidemic levels. Take a look at the FBI's rape statistics for some numbers that are more grounded in reality:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/forcible_rape.html
RAINN is full of shit and so are you.
Women earn approximately $.80 to a man's $1
The pay gap is due entirely to the way the statistics are compiled. It completely ignores the fact that there are not equal numbers of men and women working in every field. Women are more likely to work part-time instead of full time. Even women working full time are likely to work fewer hours than men. They are more likely to leave their careers for extended periods of time. Women are more likely to chose to work in lower paying service industry positions than men. Women earn less money because they chose to earn less money. There is no pay gap when studies compare men and women doing similar jobs with similar levels of education, experience and seniority:
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/CAREER/trends/12/12/womenpay/index.html
http://www.reason.com/news/show/119920.htmlThe pay gap is another feminist myth, it's full of shit and so are you.
Most women in the US are not allowed to control their own bodies, as numerous State and Federal government regulations have been imposed on their reproductive systems and available medical procedures.
What the hell? I suppose you want all medical procedures for women to be completely unregulated? I'm willing to bet if that were the case you'd be bitching about how the government did nothing to protect women from unsafe medical procedures and fraudulent doctors. You're crazy. Women are fully able to 'control' their bodies.
The brunt of housework and child-rearing still falls primarily on women.
You make child rearing sound like some hellish chore or prison sentence. Women who feel like that don't have any business having kids in the first place. This will probably shock you, but many women *want* to have kids and they *want* to take care of them as the primary care taker. You are out of your mind and completely disconnected with reality. You've read one too many Dworkin books and they've fried your brain.
ALL of these forms of oppression stem from misogynistic beliefs--primarily pushed by those in power, but to a certain degree they are perpetuated by ignorant fools who buy into them.
Nearly all of the 'oppression' that people like you speak of is nothing more than an imaginary creation of your paranoia and victim complexes. You are a damn nut, and I'll not waste anymore time dissecting the rest of your drivel.
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Re:Editors
It's a program to combat drug and gang related violence, specifically around Denver. Since the FBI (it is a federal prison camp, after all) would probably need local assistance to find him, the task force probably was the easiest way of organizing that assistance. But I'm just guessing. Maybe the Spam King joined a gang in prison, and his "brothers on the outside" are helping him.
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FBI's picture is a dead link
On the Denver FBI's page for the escape, the picture of Davidson is a dead link. (There are press photos, but a Government picture can be put into Wikipedia.) It's embarrassing for the FBI to issue a wanted notice for a prison break with no picture.
The Denver FBI office doesn't seem to have a contact e-mail address.
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Re:Easy...
You mean James J. Bulger I presume.
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The FBI press release
Here's the FBI press release.
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Re:Escalate the Issue to the FBI
Respectfully, you are mistaken, or joking.
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Re:He is repeating inflated security concerns
> http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terrorism2002_2005.htm
An error (502 Bad Gateway) has occured in response to this request.
> And more people have been killed by bees than have been directly killed by
> global warming. Does that mean we shouldn't take measures to prevent global warming?The threat of terrorism is immediate death and suffering. The threat of global warming is long-term. To compare the two in that way is to show absolute ignorance of both issues.
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Re:He is repeating inflated security concerns
Gee, izzatso? Where's the proof? Where are the successful attacks? Where are the thwarted attacks?
There's a fairly extensive listing of both terrorist incidents and prevented attacks within the US (years 2001-2005) in this FBI report:
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terrorism2002_2005.htm
World wide, bees kill more people per year than terrorists do.
And more people have been killed by bees than have been directly killed by global warming. Does that mean we shouldn't take measures to prevent global warming?
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Re:It will inevitably lead to mistakes.
Once they get a DNA database everyone, you'll have to leave the house wearing gloves and protective clothing so you don't accidentally leave DNA on someone who happens to get murdered later.
You mean like CODIS?
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Re:Overreactions
One, it is particularly noted that the UK (http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/crimeew0607.html)has switched its methods on crime reporting since the 2000 data, and that there is alot of conflict with that (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aBKQE71WDa4U&refer=uk). The new method of reporting DRASTICALLY increases the numbers, on top of excluding groups considered to be the highest rate of offenders. I use these numbers, the British Parliament has fought hard to keep this method of reporting in place, so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Second, I can take umbrage in the FBI report (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/index.html) on the fact that the numbers that would show a problem with gun violence haven't had any suspicious shift. I do this because the Director of the FBI (the guy who gives the final sign-off on the report) is an avid Anti-Gun supporter. No suspicious shift means the guy has some dignity, so I trust the FBI report a little more than most other sources culled by mostly liberal organizations. You know, the kind of liberal organizations that say things like "Women are %100 more likely to get killed when there is a gun in the household," without any numbers to back that up. I have yet to see a single solitary case study or statistical survey by any of the anti-gun organizations that has stood up to peer review. For the most part, they don't even bother putting their studies up for peer review, they just publish them and cite them as fact.
I don't use case studies that haven't stood up to peer review (for that matter, I haven't found a single one that points to guns being a problem), and I use reports that are giving numbers and statistics without offering comparisons or opinions. In my mind, that's about as much as you can ask for, show me one popular Anti-Gun liberal that has had the respect for what he/she believes in to actually look at the NUMBERS in depth, and not just take the "studies" for granted. I won't hold my breath. -
This link will answer your question
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That's not what's being doneOrdinary hashes are how this sort of thing is being done at present:
http://foia.fbi.gov/cvip.htm 1. Hash values are of files in the CVIP are compared to any evidence obtained by the field offices. Hash values are non-pictorial, alphanumeric values that are unique to each computer file that can serve as a "fingerprint" of a file for matching purposes and also provide security, because the original image cannot be recreated from the hash value itself. http://pcworld.about.com/news/Jan252005id119434.htm Using hash sets to hasten image comparisons is nothing new. Both the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation already maintain databases of images and hash sets. But the DOD is using newer, highly secure mathematical algorithms, such as the MD5 Message-Digest Algorithm and Secure Hash Algorithm, or "SHA-1," to create hash values that are more accurate and that will provide more reliable evidence in court cases, Zatyko said. You may be able to imagine different ways to catalog and identify these images but that's not what's being done. They're using normal file hashes and there aren't any 'fuzzy' matches to be found with the techniques being used. I don't think that the feds will change the way they're doing things any time soon, either. -
Re:Geez,
Nice choice there for an example. The LTTE , which operates in Sri Lanka is among the most dangerous terrorist groups in the world. True they do not target tourists but they have attacked the airport a couple of times.
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The problem with 'fake' and 'real'
First, I suggest reading the FBI's testimony to congress:
For those who don't want to take the 5 minutes it essentially boils down to this: everyone pretty much agrees 'real' child porn should be illegal. Not everyone agrees that the 'fake' child porn should be. So, if you are caught, you claim it is all the 'fake' stuff and make law enforcement prove it is the 'real' stuff. That part is really hard next to impossible unless you can find the actual people in the photographs, but you don't have to take my word for it....
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Re:are you serious?
The incidence of murder in the United States was 16,528 in 2005 of 5.5 per 100,000 inhabitants. As you can see from the charts, less that 1,000 of those have known connections to gangs. If we assume this is an average, we are talking about ~100,000 in a population of more than 300 million.
Contrast with conservative Iraqi war casualty estimates. We have 151,000 people dead and an estimated 9 out of 10 as a result of U.S. military combat operations or ~135,000 in a population of slightly more than 28 million.
it is malformed individuals who most frequently subvert moral and ethical behavior, not governmental organizations. really, fruitcake, that's the truth
Most instances of genocide, torture and a whole variety of other immoral behaviors happen directly because of government, and on a scale unthinkable to the individual.
in fact, within the context of a human organization, there is the further observation that any subversive activity is not actually being done in the name of that organization. on other wordsa, individual within that organization are just gaming the system for selfish goals, not working in the name of the system
It's all just a few "bad apples", right? Abu Gharib, School of the Americas, the many instances of genocide is just a few bad individuals and doesn't reveal something about how government encourages people to immoral behavior that would be unthinkable to most alone, right? I don't buy it.
People are ethical. Organizations are not ethical, and most organizations these days are designed to absolve people of personal responsibility. I was just following orders. I just did what the experts told me to do. I was just following the will of the people. No personal responsibility. No morality to it.
In any event, I find your post interesting. It's a rather knee-jerk reaction, peppered with lots of name calling - that frankly, I don't understand. I look at the fruit of government, and other large organizations such as big business, and while I can understand that they have benefits, I also understand that they have drawbacks - and one of those drawbacks is that organizations are not moral and that, by trying to short-circuit around personal responsibility - make it much more likely that people involved in it will do something immoral.
You can disagree, but it is observationally wrong - as you put it. Still, it is possible that you have made a mistake or even that I have (though you certainly haven't made a good case for it). I wouldn't rush to call you a moron because for one, I don't think you are - I regularly find your posts interesting. I just couldn't let this particular one go without comment.
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The problem: FBI Baltimore
We need the FBI Baltimore office taken out of the business of distributing child porn and put on this problem. After ten years of work, they've arrested over 6,000 people.
How many computer criminals have they arrested? The Department of Justice doesn't seem to provide useful statistics, but it looks like the number per year is in the 10-100 range.
This is backwards, given the relative size of the problems.
Part of the problem is that the FBI has a measurement bias against white-collar crime. See the FBI Crime Statistics page. Violent crimes are counted if they are reported; white collar crimes are only counted if there's an arrest.
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The problem: FBI Baltimore
We need the FBI Baltimore office taken out of the business of distributing child porn and put on this problem. After ten years of work, they've arrested over 6,000 people.
How many computer criminals have they arrested? The Department of Justice doesn't seem to provide useful statistics, but it looks like the number per year is in the 10-100 range.
This is backwards, given the relative size of the problems.
Part of the problem is that the FBI has a measurement bias against white-collar crime. See the FBI Crime Statistics page. Violent crimes are counted if they are reported; white collar crimes are only counted if there's an arrest.
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Re:Nigeria
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Re:hum
But American evangelicals have bombed and killed people who disagree. Here's a list of crimes against abortion clinics:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm
And here are some hate crime statistics from the FBI:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/hate_crime/index.html
Many of the crazier high-profile evangelicals have called people with different political views (read: anything remotely left-leaning) traitors, with the implication that they should receive a traitor's punishment.
It's also worth noting that while Islam is over a thousand years old, modern suicide bombing didn't appears until the 1980s, and it was just as popular with the secular Tamil Tigers as it was with Islamic groups in the Middle East. According to Wikipedia, the first suicide attack against Israel was by a Japanese communist group. So I don't think it's fair to say that suicide bombing is an inherently Muslim idea. It may be that the lack of American suicide bombers is more due to the lack of region-based internal conflict than anything else -- the population is so distributed now that there isn't as much of a base for terrorist operations as there was during, say, the pre-Civil War period, which saw things like cross-border raids between pro- and anti-slavery forces in Missouri and Kansas. Americans are perfectly happy to do all sorts of nasty things up close and personal, there just has to be something more important than the price of gas on the line. -
Re:I would have read the article before replying
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not even
According to this article the links were fake. So all you need is a link that says child porn here and people who click the link will go directly to jail. Or, at least, get their homes raided. Even if the link really didn't feature photos of exploitation of children. Nah, no way this rule could be abused.
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Re:PrioritiesWith BotNets, Identity Theft and other serious on-line crime, I am so glad that the FBI has the resources to protect us from porn .
.The FBI has the resources to multitask. Child Pornography is a victimless crime only in the - too often adolescent - imagination of the Geek. Innocent Images National Initiative
Officials at a Surprise charter school say they were shocked to learn that a fifth-grade teacher who also taught an after-school program had been distributing and receiving child pornography on the Internet for years.
On Monday, federal agents arrested Victor Scott McPeak, Jr., a teacher at Arizona Charter Academy, after unraveling an international pornography ring spanning more than 20 countries.
Court documents also state that McPeak told two agents he had thousands of sexually explicit images of female minors on his laptop, and admitted he was the only user of the laptop.
Records also state, "McPeak advised that he has had a sexual interest in minors for approximately five years and he has been attempting to hide his sexual interest from his 12-year-old daughter."
Europol officials reportedly identified one of the ringleaders as an Italian national who was operating a Web site that advertised and distributed videos of minors, some under the age of 10, engaging in sexual acts.
two agents visited McPeak in Surprise on Monday and were told:
" . . . he predominantly has sexually explicit images and videos of females between the ages of eight to twelve on his laptop computer."
" . . . he looks for child pornography on the Internet two hours every night after his children's bedtime."
This is the second case in 14 months in which a Surprise charter school has been linked to possible sex offenses involving minors.
Investigators in January 2007 discovered that a 29-year-old sex offender had been posing for several months in fall 2006 as a pre-teen at Imagine School at Rosefield. Neil Havens Rodreick II was finally caught while trying to pull the same ruse at a Chino Valley charter school. Surprise charter-school teacher busted for child porn [March 20]
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Re:Even the courts aren't this daftI actually found a few links that should be useful in cases like this:
- FBI NATIONAL COMPUTER CRIME SQUAD (May be outdated)
- FBI Tampa Cyber Crime squad (you may have your own local version of this)
- Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)
- CERT
- Forum for Incident Response and Security Teams
- Swedish IT incident Center (sitic at pts dot se)
So if we really want to avoid having the police hunt us for petty crimes of downloading files - give them something real.
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Not too scared...
What the heck is N-Dex?
N-DEx: Law Enforcement National Data Exchange
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ndex/ndex_home.htm
I've actually heard this term around vendors once or twice. It's on the horizon, but not being sold at the moment. Heck, we'd be happy to get out of Uniform Crime Reports and into National Incident-Based Reporting System. Trust me. Its not the cops or the police agencies that want those things. They like to keep their data in their black box and share it with no one. It's the various folks at the federal/state level and the newspaper people that like to compare how your police department is doing with the neighbors that drives this. NIBRS is all about crime stats so that those that like to compare crime stats have more columns of information to compare.
There was a program called RPIS that died still born that was one of the precursors to this. It was mainly aimed at drug task forces to share intel data. It never really went anywhere. No one at our agency every entered anything into the system.
I've heard N-Dex in connection with NIBRs. The way its talked about is using those crime stats and sort of generating a "weather map" of crime stats or at least trying to predict future crimes based on current crime trends at more than just the local level. I think that sounds really cool in theory. I have serious doubts that they'll get and keep it up though. This sounds like something the feds will work on for a few years and will die off in 5 or so years. I'll wait until vendors start pushing N-Dex as a selling point or the state suddenly requiring it before I'm interested in it for our agency. -
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Lookit me! I'm hacking the pentagon! And the CIA! And the FBI!
Hold on, one moment--someone's knocking. -
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So another Whistleblower speaks, its a MOO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO But then again, The FBI Academy is located on the United States Marine Corps Base at Quantico, Virginia.
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Re:Will somebody please. . .
You say "thousands of deaths every year due to violence"? really? Where are your statistics for the "thousands" figure? I've been in the US for a decade now and keep up with the news and stuff, and out-and-out homicidal crimes are very rare compared to Muslim countries. Lots of robberies and rapes and stuff, but very few actual murders. Show me some reliable facts and figures about violent deaths, individual or en-masse, in the US.
In 2004, the United States reported. . .
16,137 Murders 854,911 cases of Aggravated Assault. 94,635 cases of Forcible Rape
The worst cases of ethnic violence in the US in the past 2 decades have been the Crown Heights riot (Blacks against Jews)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Heights_Riot some 2-3 actually died, LA riots (Blacks against Asians mostly) with some 60 people dead, and this business with Jena Six (one dead). Add the Columbine incident and the Virginia Tech incident and lesser incidents and you have maybe a few hundred actual deaths from ethnic violence in the US in the last 20 years. Even despite this the US enjoys 100% religious freedom. So much so that even $cientologists are allowed to practice. Compare that with Pakistan. Millions of Bengali Hindus and moderate Muslims murdered in 1971, 17,000 Baluch murdered in 1974 alone.
We've been over this. You're trying to compare only recognizable behavioral sets without looking at the bottom line. Why does only ethnic or religious violence count? Why does only violence perpetrated within home borders count? I have already pointed out that the U.S. has been at war with one country or another almost since its inception; the resulting body count is in the millions. The U.S. actions in Vietnam alone was responsible for between one two million deaths of non-Americans, and over three hundred thousand American casualties, (we must not forget that a nations' own troops must be counted among the victims of an oppressive state.) --It should also be mentioned that several of these wars were used to create the infamous banana republics, and various other slave nations all now living and acting in service to the U.S. economy.
I have been trying to figure out why you are putting up so much resistance. --It's certainly not as though I am trying to say that the U.S. is "Worse than Pakistan", although you seem to keep assuming that this is in fact my message. --I don't really know why, as I have several times now made it plain that I feel such comparisons were altogether unhelpful and that there are larger issues at stake. Since I am obviously not getting this message across, I will repeat myself one more time: my intent is to illustrate why it is wrong to point to a country like Pakistan and, by way of that comparison, tell people in effect to stop complaining and be happy with the state of the U.S. Toward this end, I have made efforts to direct attention to following qualities of the United States. . .
1. Violent and oppressive tendencies internally; (see the crime figures posted above, and previous links to current prison population data, (in fact, here's a new item on it which just hit the news), and the hundreds of yet-to-be-filled prison camps built in preparation for some projected eventuality.)
2. Violent and oppressive tendencies externally; (through endless wars on other nations, also linked previously.)
Do you really not understand this? Do you really think I am spending all this energy because I am seeking to somehow diminish Pakistan's tragedies?
The U.S. hasn't experienced any genoci -
Re:Will somebody please. . .
You say "thousands of deaths every year due to violence"? really? Where are your statistics for the "thousands" figure? I've been in the US for a decade now and keep up with the news and stuff, and out-and-out homicidal crimes are very rare compared to Muslim countries. Lots of robberies and rapes and stuff, but very few actual murders. Show me some reliable facts and figures about violent deaths, individual or en-masse, in the US.
In 2004, the United States reported. . .
16,137 Murders 854,911 cases of Aggravated Assault. 94,635 cases of Forcible Rape
The worst cases of ethnic violence in the US in the past 2 decades have been the Crown Heights riot (Blacks against Jews)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Heights_Riot some 2-3 actually died, LA riots (Blacks against Asians mostly) with some 60 people dead, and this business with Jena Six (one dead). Add the Columbine incident and the Virginia Tech incident and lesser incidents and you have maybe a few hundred actual deaths from ethnic violence in the US in the last 20 years. Even despite this the US enjoys 100% religious freedom. So much so that even $cientologists are allowed to practice. Compare that with Pakistan. Millions of Bengali Hindus and moderate Muslims murdered in 1971, 17,000 Baluch murdered in 1974 alone.
We've been over this. You're trying to compare only recognizable behavioral sets without looking at the bottom line. Why does only ethnic or religious violence count? Why does only violence perpetrated within home borders count? I have already pointed out that the U.S. has been at war with one country or another almost since its inception; the resulting body count is in the millions. The U.S. actions in Vietnam alone was responsible for between one two million deaths of non-Americans, and over three hundred thousand American casualties, (we must not forget that a nations' own troops must be counted among the victims of an oppressive state.) --It should also be mentioned that several of these wars were used to create the infamous banana republics, and various other slave nations all now living and acting in service to the U.S. economy.
I have been trying to figure out why you are putting up so much resistance. --It's certainly not as though I am trying to say that the U.S. is "Worse than Pakistan", although you seem to keep assuming that this is in fact my message. --I don't really know why, as I have several times now made it plain that I feel such comparisons were altogether unhelpful and that there are larger issues at stake. Since I am obviously not getting this message across, I will repeat myself one more time: my intent is to illustrate why it is wrong to point to a country like Pakistan and, by way of that comparison, tell people in effect to stop complaining and be happy with the state of the U.S. Toward this end, I have made efforts to direct attention to following qualities of the United States. . .
1. Violent and oppressive tendencies internally; (see the crime figures posted above, and previous links to current prison population data, (in fact, here's a new item on it which just hit the news), and the hundreds of yet-to-be-filled prison camps built in preparation for some projected eventuality.)
2. Violent and oppressive tendencies externally; (through endless wars on other nations, also linked previously.)
Do you really not understand this? Do you really think I am spending all this energy because I am seeking to somehow diminish Pakistan's tragedies?
The U.S. hasn't experienced any genoci -
Re:Will somebody please. . .
You say "thousands of deaths every year due to violence"? really? Where are your statistics for the "thousands" figure? I've been in the US for a decade now and keep up with the news and stuff, and out-and-out homicidal crimes are very rare compared to Muslim countries. Lots of robberies and rapes and stuff, but very few actual murders. Show me some reliable facts and figures about violent deaths, individual or en-masse, in the US.
In 2004, the United States reported. . .
16,137 Murders 854,911 cases of Aggravated Assault. 94,635 cases of Forcible Rape
The worst cases of ethnic violence in the US in the past 2 decades have been the Crown Heights riot (Blacks against Jews)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Heights_Riot some 2-3 actually died, LA riots (Blacks against Asians mostly) with some 60 people dead, and this business with Jena Six (one dead). Add the Columbine incident and the Virginia Tech incident and lesser incidents and you have maybe a few hundred actual deaths from ethnic violence in the US in the last 20 years. Even despite this the US enjoys 100% religious freedom. So much so that even $cientologists are allowed to practice. Compare that with Pakistan. Millions of Bengali Hindus and moderate Muslims murdered in 1971, 17,000 Baluch murdered in 1974 alone.
We've been over this. You're trying to compare only recognizable behavioral sets without looking at the bottom line. Why does only ethnic or religious violence count? Why does only violence perpetrated within home borders count? I have already pointed out that the U.S. has been at war with one country or another almost since its inception; the resulting body count is in the millions. The U.S. actions in Vietnam alone was responsible for between one two million deaths of non-Americans, and over three hundred thousand American casualties, (we must not forget that a nations' own troops must be counted among the victims of an oppressive state.) --It should also be mentioned that several of these wars were used to create the infamous banana republics, and various other slave nations all now living and acting in service to the U.S. economy.
I have been trying to figure out why you are putting up so much resistance. --It's certainly not as though I am trying to say that the U.S. is "Worse than Pakistan", although you seem to keep assuming that this is in fact my message. --I don't really know why, as I have several times now made it plain that I feel such comparisons were altogether unhelpful and that there are larger issues at stake. Since I am obviously not getting this message across, I will repeat myself one more time: my intent is to illustrate why it is wrong to point to a country like Pakistan and, by way of that comparison, tell people in effect to stop complaining and be happy with the state of the U.S. Toward this end, I have made efforts to direct attention to following qualities of the United States. . .
1. Violent and oppressive tendencies internally; (see the crime figures posted above, and previous links to current prison population data, (in fact, here's a new item on it which just hit the news), and the hundreds of yet-to-be-filled prison camps built in preparation for some projected eventuality.)
2. Violent and oppressive tendencies externally; (through endless wars on other nations, also linked previously.)
Do you really not understand this? Do you really think I am spending all this energy because I am seeking to somehow diminish Pakistan's tragedies?
The U.S. hasn't experienced any genoci -
Not True@all.org
This post is not even remotely close to being accurate!! you can check for yourself @ http://www.fbi.gov/