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For deep crater action Liamuiga is the place.
I'm not sure what's going on in the article, it seems more of an artsy-fartsy place than really rugged volcano-ey belly of the beast thingy. If you are looking to trek up, over and down into a hopefully-extinct volcano will take your breath away, that is accessible and is not overrun by tourists and access roads, here's the place:
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=17.369741&lon=-62.80873&z=14.2&r=0&src=yh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Liamuiga
http://www.peakware.com/peaks.html?pk=2174
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g147374-d147557-r157740414-Mount_Liamuiga-St_Kitts_St_Kitts_and_Nevis.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/18/travel/climbing-a-st-kitts-volcano.htmlHere's my suggestion: plan a night in the crater. Everyone should be in decent shape. The hike up the mountain is not too demanding and even pleasant if you make a 4-5 hour trek of it. Take at least 1-1/2 gallon drinking water per person, compact food for a couple good meals, mosquito repellent and light tents for shelter from bugs and rain. There is a lake in the crater that you might find drinkable. I did, it was the most delicious water I have ever tasted. Make sure everything is carried on your backs or can dangle comfortably, you will need both hands and feet for the final ~400' climb down into and out of the crater. It will be a careful scramble using both hands to cling to tree roots as you face the hillside and lower yourself, there are short lengths of rope left by previous climbers. Bring 50-100' of rope to use if existing ropes are in bad condition and to leave for future adventurers. It is rigorous but I do not recall that any part of the decent as terrifyingly vertical or overhanging.
Once you're down in the crater set up camp. There are a few active fumaroles along the rim, in places you can see faint steam rising and there is a faint odor of sulfur but the crater has good air circulation within it. As a common sense precaution site your camp on high ground within the crater, and if you are particularly nerdy you can bring a gas detector to check for H2S but it's probably not a big deal.
Regardless of the weather you will be in a place like no other and will consider yourself grateful to be alive. Framed by the circular crater rim's cliffs above you a sharp celestial bowl of stars might roll above you, untainted by light pollution. Or perhaps a light rain punctuated by echoing thunder and circle of lightning along the sharp peaks of the rim.
If you camp overnight have at least one good hands-free head mounted flashlight in the group in case of emergency, for someone would need to climb up to the crater's rim to call for help. Volcanic craters tend to have bad cellphone reception.
It is a little known fact that compatible and like-minded individuals are implicitly married as they descend into the crater of hopefully-extinct volcanoes so there is no need for pomp or ceremony. Just get on with it.
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meanwhile, in Italy ...
I hope you can all stop laughing at the Russians 'shooping a map for a moment to take the time to check out the following:
go to http://www.flashearth.com/ and select the Microsoft VE (with labels) radio button.
in the 'search' field type in
Godi, Italy
and then gradually scroll out. Look! It's-a da magical NATO run-a-way, and she is a covered in trees so nobody bomb-a her!
C/- http://cryptome.org/ - there were heaps of them.
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Re:Compatibility
If you want to quickly compare the difference in maps between :
Google Maps
Microsoft VE
Yahoo maps
Ask.com
OpenLayers
and NASA Terra
then http://www.flashearth.com/ is pretty cool. Go to a location and toggle between the different map layers. -
Re:The Problems with Tycho as an Impact Crater
Ok, I think I understand where you are coming from let me summarize:
Some craters are obviously created by impacts with meteors, comments or any other solid body.
There are some unusual features to some craters that can not be explained by our current theory of solid body impacts
Electrical phenomenon could explain these features
Is this what we are talking about? Do you agree with these points?Yeah, that's pretty close. Within certain filters, the rays that emanate from Aristarchus look like a Lichtenberg pattern -- which is the pattern that currents make when traveling through solids. The human eye can intuitively recognize this pattern as electrical. Compare these images of electrical Lichtenberg patterns
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Plasma-filament s.jpg
http://205.243.100.155/frames/lichtenbergs.html
http://205.243.100.155/photos/For_Sale/June04/3Inc hDisk/CenterLED1b.jpg
http://picasaweb.google.com/mgmirkin/LightningScar s/photo#5075225945259278338
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309lightning.jpg
With Aristarchus ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309aristarchus.jpg
With the supposedly enigmatic Martian spiders ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/0607 26spiders2.htm
Titan ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/0506 29titan-rilles.htm
With these (on Earth) ...
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-24.395158&lon=114. 997495&z=13.1&r=0&src=yh
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.659683&lon=140. 387453&z=15.4&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.655156&lon=140. 386295&z=18.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-23.742312&lon=140. 982472&z=16.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-27.863467&lon=141. 872015&z=15.2&r=0&src=ggl
These images are not proof of anything, but we can certainly be excused for using them as motivation for further investigation.
But Electric Universe Theory is not just about using the senses. There is very good reason to believe that electricity can flow through space. It is now accepted within astrophysics that space is not a vacuum, but rather filled with charged particles called plasma. In fact, matter within the plasma state represents 99.999% of all visible matter in the universe, and a gas can become electrified within the laboratory such that it becomes a plasma with only 1% ionization. That's not a whole l -
Re:The Problems with Tycho as an Impact Crater
Ok, I think I understand where you are coming from let me summarize:
Some craters are obviously created by impacts with meteors, comments or any other solid body.
There are some unusual features to some craters that can not be explained by our current theory of solid body impacts
Electrical phenomenon could explain these features
Is this what we are talking about? Do you agree with these points?Yeah, that's pretty close. Within certain filters, the rays that emanate from Aristarchus look like a Lichtenberg pattern -- which is the pattern that currents make when traveling through solids. The human eye can intuitively recognize this pattern as electrical. Compare these images of electrical Lichtenberg patterns
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Plasma-filament s.jpg
http://205.243.100.155/frames/lichtenbergs.html
http://205.243.100.155/photos/For_Sale/June04/3Inc hDisk/CenterLED1b.jpg
http://picasaweb.google.com/mgmirkin/LightningScar s/photo#5075225945259278338
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309lightning.jpg
With Aristarchus ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309aristarchus.jpg
With the supposedly enigmatic Martian spiders ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/0607 26spiders2.htm
Titan ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/0506 29titan-rilles.htm
With these (on Earth) ...
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-24.395158&lon=114. 997495&z=13.1&r=0&src=yh
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.659683&lon=140. 387453&z=15.4&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.655156&lon=140. 386295&z=18.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-23.742312&lon=140. 982472&z=16.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-27.863467&lon=141. 872015&z=15.2&r=0&src=ggl
These images are not proof of anything, but we can certainly be excused for using them as motivation for further investigation.
But Electric Universe Theory is not just about using the senses. There is very good reason to believe that electricity can flow through space. It is now accepted within astrophysics that space is not a vacuum, but rather filled with charged particles called plasma. In fact, matter within the plasma state represents 99.999% of all visible matter in the universe, and a gas can become electrified within the laboratory such that it becomes a plasma with only 1% ionization. That's not a whole l -
Re:The Problems with Tycho as an Impact Crater
Ok, I think I understand where you are coming from let me summarize:
Some craters are obviously created by impacts with meteors, comments or any other solid body.
There are some unusual features to some craters that can not be explained by our current theory of solid body impacts
Electrical phenomenon could explain these features
Is this what we are talking about? Do you agree with these points?Yeah, that's pretty close. Within certain filters, the rays that emanate from Aristarchus look like a Lichtenberg pattern -- which is the pattern that currents make when traveling through solids. The human eye can intuitively recognize this pattern as electrical. Compare these images of electrical Lichtenberg patterns
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Plasma-filament s.jpg
http://205.243.100.155/frames/lichtenbergs.html
http://205.243.100.155/photos/For_Sale/June04/3Inc hDisk/CenterLED1b.jpg
http://picasaweb.google.com/mgmirkin/LightningScar s/photo#5075225945259278338
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309lightning.jpg
With Aristarchus ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309aristarchus.jpg
With the supposedly enigmatic Martian spiders ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/0607 26spiders2.htm
Titan ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/0506 29titan-rilles.htm
With these (on Earth) ...
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-24.395158&lon=114. 997495&z=13.1&r=0&src=yh
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.659683&lon=140. 387453&z=15.4&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.655156&lon=140. 386295&z=18.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-23.742312&lon=140. 982472&z=16.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-27.863467&lon=141. 872015&z=15.2&r=0&src=ggl
These images are not proof of anything, but we can certainly be excused for using them as motivation for further investigation.
But Electric Universe Theory is not just about using the senses. There is very good reason to believe that electricity can flow through space. It is now accepted within astrophysics that space is not a vacuum, but rather filled with charged particles called plasma. In fact, matter within the plasma state represents 99.999% of all visible matter in the universe, and a gas can become electrified within the laboratory such that it becomes a plasma with only 1% ionization. That's not a whole l -
Re:The Problems with Tycho as an Impact Crater
Ok, I think I understand where you are coming from let me summarize:
Some craters are obviously created by impacts with meteors, comments or any other solid body.
There are some unusual features to some craters that can not be explained by our current theory of solid body impacts
Electrical phenomenon could explain these features
Is this what we are talking about? Do you agree with these points?Yeah, that's pretty close. Within certain filters, the rays that emanate from Aristarchus look like a Lichtenberg pattern -- which is the pattern that currents make when traveling through solids. The human eye can intuitively recognize this pattern as electrical. Compare these images of electrical Lichtenberg patterns
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Plasma-filament s.jpg
http://205.243.100.155/frames/lichtenbergs.html
http://205.243.100.155/photos/For_Sale/June04/3Inc hDisk/CenterLED1b.jpg
http://picasaweb.google.com/mgmirkin/LightningScar s/photo#5075225945259278338
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309lightning.jpg
With Aristarchus ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309aristarchus.jpg
With the supposedly enigmatic Martian spiders ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/0607 26spiders2.htm
Titan ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/0506 29titan-rilles.htm
With these (on Earth) ...
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-24.395158&lon=114. 997495&z=13.1&r=0&src=yh
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.659683&lon=140. 387453&z=15.4&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.655156&lon=140. 386295&z=18.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-23.742312&lon=140. 982472&z=16.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-27.863467&lon=141. 872015&z=15.2&r=0&src=ggl
These images are not proof of anything, but we can certainly be excused for using them as motivation for further investigation.
But Electric Universe Theory is not just about using the senses. There is very good reason to believe that electricity can flow through space. It is now accepted within astrophysics that space is not a vacuum, but rather filled with charged particles called plasma. In fact, matter within the plasma state represents 99.999% of all visible matter in the universe, and a gas can become electrified within the laboratory such that it becomes a plasma with only 1% ionization. That's not a whole l -
Re:The Problems with Tycho as an Impact Crater
Ok, I think I understand where you are coming from let me summarize:
Some craters are obviously created by impacts with meteors, comments or any other solid body.
There are some unusual features to some craters that can not be explained by our current theory of solid body impacts
Electrical phenomenon could explain these features
Is this what we are talking about? Do you agree with these points?Yeah, that's pretty close. Within certain filters, the rays that emanate from Aristarchus look like a Lichtenberg pattern -- which is the pattern that currents make when traveling through solids. The human eye can intuitively recognize this pattern as electrical. Compare these images of electrical Lichtenberg patterns
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Plasma-filament s.jpg
http://205.243.100.155/frames/lichtenbergs.html
http://205.243.100.155/photos/For_Sale/June04/3Inc hDisk/CenterLED1b.jpg
http://picasaweb.google.com/mgmirkin/LightningScar s/photo#5075225945259278338
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309lightning.jpg
With Aristarchus ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/image06/060 309aristarchus.jpg
With the supposedly enigmatic Martian spiders ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/0607 26spiders2.htm
Titan ...
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/0506 29titan-rilles.htm
With these (on Earth) ...
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-24.395158&lon=114. 997495&z=13.1&r=0&src=yh
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.659683&lon=140. 387453&z=15.4&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-25.655156&lon=140. 386295&z=18.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-23.742312&lon=140. 982472&z=16.2&r=0&src=ggl
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-27.863467&lon=141. 872015&z=15.2&r=0&src=ggl
These images are not proof of anything, but we can certainly be excused for using them as motivation for further investigation.
But Electric Universe Theory is not just about using the senses. There is very good reason to believe that electricity can flow through space. It is now accepted within astrophysics that space is not a vacuum, but rather filled with charged particles called plasma. In fact, matter within the plasma state represents 99.999% of all visible matter in the universe, and a gas can become electrified within the laboratory such that it becomes a plasma with only 1% ionization. That's not a whole l -
Re:Huh? - Example Image
I think the accurate Google Earth Service will be the one you pay subscription for. Can anyone Confirm?
I spent some time looking thru online map services, including this comparative one Flash Earth All of them look pre-Katrina to my untrained eye.
I did find documentation on a lighthouse (mentioned in news articles) which had collapsed, but was visible in Google maps.
Google Map of West End Lighthouse
Image of Lighthouse Documenting its Collapse
Lighthouse Society Rebuilding Efforts -
flashearth
Check out Flashearth.com The UK intelligence agency in Cheltenham is very clear, while Google Earth has a very low res image. Google Earth has very clear images of nuclear plants in England and South Africa though.
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Re:A Step in a direction
The FWA itself is a database driven content managed site.
In other words it's a flash interface to a CMS.Resize your browser and see how it adds rows and columns to fill up the available space (ie: it's a flash 'liquid layout' )
Generally I'm browsing the web full-screen (F11). I was really annoyed at how the content wasn't already preloaded on the page, scrolling with the interface seemed very unnatural and slow loading because of this (not to mention my laptop fans were at maximum).Resize your browser and see how it adds rows and columns to fill up the available space (ie: it's a flash 'liquid layout' ) and the content is all being loaded on the fly asynchronously
I still would of rathered a long page with thumbnails that dynamically changed positions (easy todo with basic HTML). Simply because I saw nothing wrong with it, and I still see nothing that innovative or new about this.now start thinking of how that can be useful for other subjects.
Deviantart? I don't need Flash to make browsing that site unbareably slow and difficult to give out URL references to specific browsing thumbnails I'm looking at.Dynamic data with realtime responses and monitoring of user input.
I don't consider Flash real time, if it's going to skip trying to show me a animation to display the animation, I also don't see how this is superior to AJAX, which works on far more platforms, browsers, doesn't break UI features.Would it help if they used a large clunky interface to demonstrate this?
Seems like it's a clunky interface to me. Large? No, a bit too small to read.Maybe a datagrid with words instead of funky pictures?
I'm opposed to Powerpoint presentations?Anyways... did you go to http://www.flashearth.com/?
It's not as fluid/smooth as Google maps from what I can see -- just click dragging the area.Also, Don't you know not to browse the web with your sound turned up?
I'm quite happy listening to music when I do things on my computer, not to mention I like to be notified when someone sends me a instant message/e-mail/says my name on IRC. I rarely ever browse flash based websites beyond Google video (lots of interesting speeches/demos are posted there).That's like keeping your TV volume up while watching the weather channel and then being surprised by a commercial when you change it to a normal station.
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Re:A Step in a direction
You're missing out on the backend expertise here. The FWA itself is a database driven content managed site. Resize your browser and see how it adds rows and columns to fill up the available space (ie: it's a flash 'liquid layout' ) and the content is all being loaded on the fly asynchronously... JIT for you to view it. See at the top right of the grid how it paginates the listings dynamically according to how many columns and rows you have showing? Watch it while you resize again so more rows are showing... now start thinking of how that can be useful for other subjects. Dynamic data with realtime responses and monitoring of user input. Would it help if they used a large clunky interface to demonstrate this? Maybe a datagrid with words instead of funky pictures?
Anyways... did you go to http://www.flashearth.com/?
Also, Don't you know not to browse the web with your sound turned up? That's like keeping your TV volume up while watching the weather channel and then being surprised by a commercial when you change it to a normal station. -
flash based google earth
This website has google earth as well as msn virtual earth accessable via web browser, so it is compatible with mac, linux, what ever has a flash enabled browser
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FlashEarth, based on Google Maps!
FlashEarth is soo much better (for me). You even get the coordinates in real time as you move around the map (which is important for me).
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Re:Two camps
For that matter, see Flash Earth
I now the majority of /.-ers think Flash is only for ads, but actually you can do everything Ajax with less effort. -
Re:google earth for Mac?
This should do it http://www.flashearth.com/ although you'll have to do your searches manually.
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Re:Ajax compared to Flash
The thing with all these examples is, we're having a discussion about the merits of a technology based on examples of that technology. It would have been similar to arguing that we shouldn't develop nuclear power when all we had seen was the atom bomb. In the web world, it would be similar to visiting Mirsky's Worst of the Web back in 1995 and declaring, "nothing good can come of this!" If you really don't like these sites, that doesn't explain to me why you don't think you could build something better with the same technology.
Nonetheless, I'm going to follow on this discussion track a little more. I did have a hard time finding good/interesting Flash applications. The one that I honestly think is the best example, Flash Earth, is a remix of two Ajax applications. At the same time, we really are just beginning the transition to the application heavy web, and I wouldn't be surprised to see many more good applications spring up in the next 6 months.
Reguarding Saving - that's something that's up to the developer, though like all files you can dredge them out of the cache if you need to. Some developers like to share, going so far as to put View Source items in their right click menus to allow you to download the code. There's nothing about Flash that prevents people from letting you download elements. Personally, if people don't want to let you do that, I wouldn't hold that against the technology they're using. To give a non-Flash example example, a lot of Quicktime movie trailers don't provide download links anymore. I often do a view source, find the file reference, create a link in a new HTML file, right-click Save As, and download the movie. For some QuickTime movies that doesn't work, they've used Quicktime to create a shell for streaming the movie off the Internet. When I encounter either of these situations I don't think "Quicktime sucks", I think, "the developer was foolish for not letting me download advertising".
As far as interoperability goes, and from a hacker mentality, I really see you point. When I switch hats to a content developer/service provider mentality, I disagree that Flash is at a disadvantage to Ajax on this front. Let me put it this way, there's a big difference between providing public API's for your application, and having Greasemonkey fiddle with its bits.
Pretend I'm Google, and I've put out Gmail. Now along comes someone with a Greasemonkey mod that turns Gmail into a Peer-to-Peer network. (I'm talking hypothetical here -- I think.) Ok, now there's two things to consider: First, I might not want this hack that people have added on top of my site. It might get me in big legal trouble, and I might not even like Peer-to-Peer networks. Is there any way for me to stop this without legal action or without playing an escalating arms race of code changes with the modders? Secondly, what if I really like the mod, what if more people are using my site for the mod than for the original functionality and I don't want to break it. Am I stuck in development limbo? One of the big advantages of web applications is the Zero-install environment. If I fix a bug in a web application I don't have to push out changes to anyone, everyone who visits the site is using the newest version. What if fixing my bug means breaking eveyone else's hack? While the theoretical promise of the mod that's more popular than the original is alluring (see Half-Life and Counter Strike), this is really not a place I want to be as a web developer. I don't want to piss off my users just for maintaining my code. It's an entirely different thing if I've published an external API of course, that's not dependent on how I implemented my code - interoperable systems like Greasemonkey are.
I'll admit that in some ways the interoperability argument I just made is a bit silly, because there isn't anything inherient in Flash that prevents someone from creating "Greasemonkey for Flash". But that's the larger point. Down at the roots, Flash and Ajax applications are quite similar. They're both EMCAscripting they just have different object models and different run-time environments. From my perspective, the differences favor Flash. -
Ajax compared to Flash
Now I'm not saying that these are mutually exclusive technologies (Macromedia itself has put out some examples of them working together), but as someone who started out writing a lot of Javascript and moved over to Flash in part to escape browser incompatibilites, what is the technical advantage of Ajax as compared to Flash.
As far as I can tell, Flash is more accessible (they've built in hooks for this), and Flash uses less bandwidth. (It comiplies to a binary format.) There's an open source compiler (MotionTwin). Flash also seems to provide a better user experience. (Compare Google Earth to Flash Earth.)
I know everyone here doesn't like Flash because it's used for advertising, but people here talk a lot about how wrong it is to attack a technology because of how some people choose to use it.
So, seriously, I've been thinking about looking into Ajax some more, but right now I don't have a good reason to. Convince this Flash programmer that Ajax is a better solution.