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Re:Depressing
Where'd you get the 90 day figure from?
They had signed up for the $29.95 Kazaa 'service' 3 months prior to getting sued. And remember, this is a 12 year old honor student, obviously not spending all of her time downloading stuff. -
Re:He was very honest
No, he insisted that they were developing them. This was based on the same sort of intelligence that others, including France, had, and they had the same belief.
No, he actually did claim that Saddam had WMDs and could use them against the US and our allies at any time. It's absolutely surreal to me that you would even claim otherwise. Here's a good collection of quotes on the issue.
And the "sort of intelligence" to which you refer turned out to be one British report of which everyone else was, rightly, skeptical. The rest of the world wanted to wait until we had, you know, actual evidence, but Bush and Blair blazed ahead.
He never insisted any such connection other than that Saddam and Al Quaeda were both terrorists.
No, this had been one of the administration's official arguments for war up until recently. Look at news from two years ago, and earlier this year. Contrast with the story a few weeks ago.
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Re:Obvious
>Are you trying to say that only black men are getting sued by RIAA or something loony?
Not at all.
I'm simply pointing out (not so clearly) that the same crime carries different punishments depending on if one is computer-knowledgeable or not.
Shoplift a few CDs from HMV? $250 fine.
Download them from Kazaa? Only god can save you now.
Brianna and the others sued yesterday under federal copyright law could face penalties of up to $150,000 per song, but the RIAA has already settled some cases for as little as $3,000.
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Big $$$ in WiFi @ Mickey D's
Some time ago, the news media began reporting that McDonald's was to going to provide wireless access in their restauraunts. That service, according to McDonald's itself, would in some places be for pay.
McDonald's giveaway will promote its for-pay WiFi access. iTMS is the market leader of downloaded music with, according to a 5 November analyst conference call held by Apple, over 80% market share. McDonald's will be able to "give away" US $0.99 tracks to, in some cases, sell US $2.99/day WiFi access.
I wonder if some of those Happy Meal freebies will include a day's worth of free WiFi.
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Re:CorrectionCNN: The Least Trusted Name In News.
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Re:Media trying to hide the Media's attempt to rig
Uhhhh... I'm guessing you get your news from a "fair and unbiased" source like Roger Ailes, Media Director for George HW Bush's campaigns and creator and producer of Rush Limbaugh's TV show.
There are some FACTS that get in the way of your straight-from-the-GOP arguments. I figure it's probably a lost cause to try to convince you, but here they are...
(First, for the record, I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, and am horrified at the increasing narrowness of the American political "spectrum" after having lived for 3 years in a thriving Democracy (Brazil), where there are more parties than anyone can name, and virtually all points of view are represented, with no one or two or even three parties able to dominate)
That said, on to the uncomfortable facts...
Yes, there was some serious rigging in the 2000 Florida election, but it looks like most of it was done by the Republicans. Besides the funny business that went on before the election (ordered by Jeb Bush) to remove tens of thousands of Democratic voters from the lists of registered Florida voters, and besides the numerous African-American (likely Democratic) Florida voters who were denied their right to vote, there is the matter of the leaked Diebold memos, which show that there was some election night hanky-panky with the 2000 Florida presidential vote totals (made possible by Diebold, a company whose top man has declared that it is his mission to deliver Ohio's electoral votes to George W Bush). Best of all, Diebold does not deny that these things happened; it is trying to use the DMCA to shut down any site hosting copies of the incriminating memos, alleging that these company memos are copyrighted material. IANAL, but that looks to me like a direct admission of ownership and verification of the authenticity of those shocking memos. If I had a site hosting those memos and I were to get a Cease and Desist from Diebold, I'd simply tell them "no way" and hope hope hope to get the chance to discuss the contents of those memos in front of a judge.
Bad as all this is, as they say on infomercials, "that's not all!" Recounts were stopped because the Supreme Court, loaded 6-3 with Republicans, including one major political activist (Scalia) and his apprentice (Thomas) basically said that if the recounts weren't stopped, George W Bush might not be President. Worse, they basically recognized the ridiculousness of their own arguments and said that this case could never be used as a precedent for a future case. Funny that... (in a distinctly non-humorous way, of course)
I'm guessing Ann Coulter didn't mention these things. I wouldn't be surprised if the presenters at Fox News forgot to mention them either...
Don't even get me started about the fact that exit polls unanimously showed Gore winning Florida... or on the recent election in Georgia, where every poll (exit polls, third-party pre-election polls, Democratic AND Republican internal tracking polls) showed the Democrat winning handily, but the Republican ended up winning with relative ease. Small but possibly important detail: an unverified patch was applied to the Diebold (that name again!) voting machines after they'd been certified by Georgia election officials.
What? Brit Hume didn't mention that? Color me shocked!
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Re:What about the dangers?
Any diet, even Atkins, only works as long as you can follow it...
Except that nows there's evidence that low-carb style diets work better than other more conventional diets. A recent Harvard study presented at the last meeting of the North American Association for the Study of Obesity showed that subjects on a controlled low-carb diet lost more weight than conventional dieters--despite eating on average 25,000 more calories over the course of the 12 week study! The AP covered this, and I found an archive of the storyat FoxNews. It really flies in the face of the standard nutritionist's "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie" dogma. -
Re:Keep in mind
sorry i got it wrong again
:P stupid tab key is screwing me over:
Fox News Report
justthefacts.com
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Google Search for Statistics in Europe
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Re:That was a great quote to leave unchallenged:This is the point where a bad reporter starts typing up the story, and a good reporter starts asking about smartcards reporting -16,000 votes. At least the AP is looking at the right story now, so hopefully eventually the right person will be looking at it.
One major media outlet HAS noticed the problem -- Fox News Network.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100152,00.htm
l Here's a quote: "JOHN GIBSON, HOST: Talk about fishy. Just wait until the next election. A lot of folks will be holding their noses around the new electronic voting machines (search). There's already a stench of suspicion surrounding some of last year's elections which used touch-screen machines made by Diebold (search). They may have been tampered with after they were certified. David Allen is co-author of Black Box Voting: Ballot Tampering in the 21st Century. Mr. Allen, that is today's big question. Were electronic voting machines suspect in the Georgia elections?" That's a transcript of an October 14 show, and they had an earlier story on October 6 talking about fears of tampering.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99241,00.html
Looks like CNN is behind the ball on this one -- again. As for the AP -- look, you are more likely to get action based on the FNN stories than anything the AP prints. FNN has a lot more viewership, and frankly, a lot more viewer trust with ordinary Americans.
What we need isn't more news stories, we need more letters from concerned voters to their election boards and local representatives. This is a problem that will be fixed on the state or local level. Let's write those letters folks.
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Re:That was a great quote to leave unchallenged:This is the point where a bad reporter starts typing up the story, and a good reporter starts asking about smartcards reporting -16,000 votes. At least the AP is looking at the right story now, so hopefully eventually the right person will be looking at it.
One major media outlet HAS noticed the problem -- Fox News Network.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100152,00.htm
l Here's a quote: "JOHN GIBSON, HOST: Talk about fishy. Just wait until the next election. A lot of folks will be holding their noses around the new electronic voting machines (search). There's already a stench of suspicion surrounding some of last year's elections which used touch-screen machines made by Diebold (search). They may have been tampered with after they were certified. David Allen is co-author of Black Box Voting: Ballot Tampering in the 21st Century. Mr. Allen, that is today's big question. Were electronic voting machines suspect in the Georgia elections?" That's a transcript of an October 14 show, and they had an earlier story on October 6 talking about fears of tampering.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99241,00.html
Looks like CNN is behind the ball on this one -- again. As for the AP -- look, you are more likely to get action based on the FNN stories than anything the AP prints. FNN has a lot more viewership, and frankly, a lot more viewer trust with ordinary Americans.
What we need isn't more news stories, we need more letters from concerned voters to their election boards and local representatives. This is a problem that will be fixed on the state or local level. Let's write those letters folks.
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Re:That was a great quote to leave unchallenged:
Fox News has reported on this before:
Suspicions About New Electronic Voting Machines
But I guess it is not news for slashdot unless it is CNN or NYT. And it is an AP story, not a CNN story. -
Fox news is beyond Republican HQs
Fox news is also the Likud propganda headquarters.. to give you an example, it's the only news channel that refers to suicide bombings as "homicide bombings".
The worse show on that network is Fox and Friends. You want to see extremist right-wing hatred against arabs and europeans? Then watch that show. They absolutely took the cake one time when they hit the french with a few monstrous low-blows. Eade I think her name is, and one of the other jerks, Steve or Bryan said that the french don't have air conditioners, don't care about their elderly and let their own grandparents die in the streets. I was gobsmacked. Then that was followed by the usual and typical "we helped the French out on WWII blah blah".
Take a look at their questions of the day - Fox and Friends Questions of the day
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9/11 Blame Game: FBI Fumble or Saudi Sabotage?
Saudi Speak-Out: Help, or Hindrance?
Speak Out on Saudi Arabia: Friend or Foe?
Syria Situation: Time to Get Serious, or not Syria-ous Problem?
Fickle French: Help All the Way, or Stay Away?
French Whine: Sour Grapes, or Right to Gripe?
Nobel Peace Prize: Bush and Blair Best Bet?
And another thing, every time there is a "homicide bombing" in Israel, you'll see an Israeli being interviewed. They also gave that fucker William (Bill) Kristol (partly responsible for the Iraq war along with Wolfowitz, Feith among other zionists) alot of air time before the Iraqi war and Kissinger is a regular too.
Anyway, honestly, I do watch fox news occassionally - only to check out what the latest euro-arab hate speech is. -
Re:Suing themselves
They've never, as far as I am aware, said "WMDs have been found!" If you have a link you can provide to a Fox News story that shows differentaly, please provide.
You can't honestly tell me, with a straight face, that a story like this isn't at least slightly sensationalistic. Or this one. Or this one. Generally, it is advisable to wait until there are facts to report before writing a story -- FNC seems to have abandoned that notion when it comes to Iraq's phantom WMD.
Also, keep in mind that the articles on the FNC website are more toned-down than the on-air reports, and much more toned-down than the FNC crawl, which, as The Simpsons pointed out so derisively, is so full of misinformation it's funny.
I searched for retractions on FNC's site, and couldn't find a single one. To my knowledge, they never ran a retraction on-air, either. The only CYA they bothered to do was to -- like you said -- assure their gullible viewers that, while we're not certain this is where Iraq was making its deadly chemicals, it sure looks promising.
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Re:Suing themselves
They've never, as far as I am aware, said "WMDs have been found!" If you have a link you can provide to a Fox News story that shows differentaly, please provide.
You can't honestly tell me, with a straight face, that a story like this isn't at least slightly sensationalistic. Or this one. Or this one. Generally, it is advisable to wait until there are facts to report before writing a story -- FNC seems to have abandoned that notion when it comes to Iraq's phantom WMD.
Also, keep in mind that the articles on the FNC website are more toned-down than the on-air reports, and much more toned-down than the FNC crawl, which, as The Simpsons pointed out so derisively, is so full of misinformation it's funny.
I searched for retractions on FNC's site, and couldn't find a single one. To my knowledge, they never ran a retraction on-air, either. The only CYA they bothered to do was to -- like you said -- assure their gullible viewers that, while we're not certain this is where Iraq was making its deadly chemicals, it sure looks promising.
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Re:Suing themselves
They've never, as far as I am aware, said "WMDs have been found!" If you have a link you can provide to a Fox News story that shows differentaly, please provide.
You can't honestly tell me, with a straight face, that a story like this isn't at least slightly sensationalistic. Or this one. Or this one. Generally, it is advisable to wait until there are facts to report before writing a story -- FNC seems to have abandoned that notion when it comes to Iraq's phantom WMD.
Also, keep in mind that the articles on the FNC website are more toned-down than the on-air reports, and much more toned-down than the FNC crawl, which, as The Simpsons pointed out so derisively, is so full of misinformation it's funny.
I searched for retractions on FNC's site, and couldn't find a single one. To my knowledge, they never ran a retraction on-air, either. The only CYA they bothered to do was to -- like you said -- assure their gullible viewers that, while we're not certain this is where Iraq was making its deadly chemicals, it sure looks promising.
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Re: Spelling error, but Faux News truly misleadsThere's a study out that correlates misperceptions about the Iraq war with news source. You can read the whole
.pdf if you like.They took 3 polls with 3334 respondents, gathering data on three misperceptions about the Iraq war
(1) Evidence found for link between Iraq and Al Queda
(2) Evidence found of WMDs in Iraq
(3) Positive world opinion about Iraq warNews_source______FOX_____CBS_____ABC_____NBC_____ CNN___Print_____NPR/
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0_misperceptions_20%_____30%_____39%_____45%_____ 45%_____53%_____77%
1_or_more
misperceptions___80______71______61______55______ 55______47______23
Yep, you read that right; fully 80% of Faux watchers had at least 1 of the misperceptions; fully 77% of the NPR/PBS crowd had zero. Wow!They also attempted to control for demographic variations in the audience. Here's what they say (end of P.15)
Looking just at Republicans, the average rate for the three key misperceptions was 43%. For Republican Fox viewers, however the average rate was 54% while for Republicans who get their news from PBS- NPR the average rate is 32%. This same pattern obtains with Democrats and independents.
I also really like this paragraph (page 16):Misperceptions According to Level of Attention to News
Isn't that amazing? The more you read the paper, or watch CNN, the better informed you are. But the more you watch Faux News, the more likely you are to be misled!! Now of course these are correlations; they don't prove causation, but they are pretty darned persuasive.
While it would seem that misperceptions are derived from a failure to pay attention to the news, overall, those who pay greater attention to the news are no less likely to have misperceptions. Among those who primarily watch Fox, those who pay more attention are more likely to have misperceptions. Only those who mostly get their news from print media, and to some extent those who primarily watch CNN, have fewer misperceptions as they pay more attention.This study was commented on in the wash post seattle times twin cities and other places
The one place you I can guarentee you won't find it is fox news!
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Re:Luskin v. Krugman
Another angry left rant. What, exactly, do you want Bush to do?
What, EXACTLY, are benefits the "rich" are getting that poor people aren't? And while you're at it, define "rich".
You want to stem financial disaster? How about this: todays news is that the GDP grew a WOPPING 7.2 percent (best quarter in almost 20 years). The estimates of the deficit keep shrinking because of the tax cut (even JFK knew how that worked). New requests for unemployment benefits have also dropped, and are staying below the 400,000 mark ("Most economists consider new claims below the 400,000 threshold as a sign of a recovery. This is the fourth consecutive week the figure has been below that level." - CNN).
So what exactly do you want? I am NOT a Bush apologist, I WANT him to cut spending, and I find it sadly laughable that lefties hate him so much. This guy is a democrats dream come true - if you couldn't win the whitehouse, he's the best republican you could have asked for. Read this story. Bush got along wonderfully (as much as can be expected) as governer of Texas. It wasn't until he was elected president that the hatred of the extreme left came out.
Partisan politics sucks. I know it goes both ways, but I've never seen such extremism as I've seen coming from the left. Bush could wipe out disease and world hunger and Howard Dean would find something wrong with it (what about all those germs on unemployment?). Bush Jr. has done more for this country than Clinton ever did (or had to do), and he's done it under horrible circumstances. Is he perfect? Hardly. Would I being doing things differently if I were president? You bet your sweet ass I would. But all things considered, he's doing a great job. -
Re:Of course...
Actually, the number is now 2,976, idiot. If you bothered keeping current with the news, you'd know that. And yes, ordinarily such a correction would count as picking nits, but the fact of the matter is that it's because so many of you skip reading international news that we're in this mess in the first place. You're too busy watching football or wrestling.
Actually, the number is now 2,750, idiot. If you bothered keeping current with the news, you'd know that. And yes, ordinarily such a correction would count as picking nits, but the fact of the matter is that it's because so many of you skip reading international news that we're in this mess in the first place. You're too busy watching football or wrestling.
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Re:What?
What you really should do is to write your reps supporting NPR. After the whole O'Reilley thing, they could use some political support. Since Bill is talking to the politicians, so should you. Read the link. Discovery channel? History channel? Please tell me you aren't insulted by your "choices"....
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Ho hum
This needs to be said, and as a bonus it is on topic.
I recently made the mistake of visiting the European continent. Why was it a mistake? I'm certain that all the American trolls are already forming 'jokes' about how Euro women don't shave their armpits, that Euro's have yet to discover underarm deodorant, that they are the champions of soccer hooliganary, etc...
We all know that this is just more American /. dreck.
My concern is the rampant anti-Pakistani sentiment that pervades Europe. I recently visited Oslo, and I have to admit that I was disgusted. They invite Pakistani immigrants in, yet they are so quick to blame ALL crime in Norway on the 'Pakis' (Pakis is to Pakistani as NIGGER is to African American.) 'Pakis' are denied both educational and employment opportunities, all with the support of the average Norwegian. This condition exists despite the fact that the Norway encouraged Pakistanis to immigrate to Norway. It would seem that there is a wide gap between the tolerant facade put up by Norwegians and their actually feelings toward Muslims.
What is more disturbing, however, is that this attitude is not local to Norway. In fact, like anti-Semitism, it is commonplace in Europe. For all their criticism of the United States and our 'racist, anti-Muslim' foreign policy, they seem to suffer from the same bigotry. Many similar stories have been documented at FoxNews, which I think we can all agree is the best source for the actual NEWS, not the slanted reported that we've come to expect from the military-industrial-media complex that constitutes the Fifth Column of the European continent.
This post is not a cheap shot at our Christian European brethren - rather, it is an appeal to the European continent to adopt the more elightened view of the New World.
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Re:Whining Socialist....Ashcroft and Bush haven't burned down any religious comunes, haven't covered up FBI sniper killings, and haven't condoned forced repatriation of orphaned immigrants.
You may find this fox news item interesting then. Remember, Fox stands for fair and balanced news
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Tell them you want VeriSign stopped!
- The Department of Commerce; VeriSign's contract to operate
.com and .org was originally with them. - The Federal Communications Commission, which oversees telecommunications.
- The Senate Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Communications; contact the committee itself, the chairman, the ranking member, and any of the other members you'd like.
- The House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, including the committee itself, the chairman, the vice-chairman, and the ranking member. Plus any of the other members you feel like contacting.
- The Federal Trade Commission, which hears consumer complaints.
- Your U.S. Representative
- Your Senators
- Your Governor
- Your State Legislators
- ICANN's wildcard comment address
- Finally, complain to the media. If they get enough letters on a topic, they'll run stories. Try the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, Fox News, CBS News, ABC News, NBC News and MSNBC.
Remember, VeriSign is busy telling them its side of the story. We need to tell them ours!
- The Department of Commerce; VeriSign's contract to operate
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Oh Yeah?
Nobody needs prima donnas, of course (well, except ballet companies, I suppose
;-)
Not this prima donna
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Re:Dissidents?
I don't think that's true. I went to cnn.com and foxnews.com and looked up recent stories about U.S. soldiers under attack in post-war Iraq. In the CNN story they call the attackers "gunmen." In the Fox News report they call them "ex-soldiers," and also mention "dissidents" who were protesting and throwing rocks. I think the media is using the correct words.
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Re:Party...
Understood completely, and agreed! I was more interested in quelling the tide of people coming up with "SEE?!? Democrats are teh suck!" when it's "SEE?!? Both parties CAN be total fucking bastards!" It was more about myth-debunking than your actual post per se.
One of my other current favorite myths to debunk is that the ACLU is "owned" by the Democrats. This is obviously bullshit. If the ACLU is good enough for Bob Fucking Barr, it's good enough for anyone concerned with civil liberties. I'd normally see myself as a natural political enemy to a guy like Barr, but I have to admire his honesty and adherence to his beliefs and rationale instead of lame party politics, etc. (Naturally the ACLU isn't perfect, they sometimes chase rather minor or silly issues, but we're a hell of a lot better off with them than without them, and they certainly don't "belong" to just one party. That's a rather insulting notion to the Republican, Libertarian, Green, and other party members that are members!) -
Re:Siegfried and Roy killed by tiger in Las Vegas
Sorry. Clickable link with no sign-in. Roy injured in tiger attack (Fox News)
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Complain about VeriSign here!
- The Department of Commerce; VeriSign's contract to operate
.com and .org was originally with them. - The Federal Communications Commission, which oversees telecommunications.
- The Senate Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Communications; contact the committee itself, the chairman, the ranking member, and any of the other members you'd like.
- The House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, including the committee itself, the chairman, the vice-chairman, and the ranking member. Plus any of the other members you feel like contacting.
- The Federal Trade Commission, which hears consumer complaints.
- Your U.S. Representative
- Your Senators
- Your Governor
- Your State Legislators
- ICANN's wildcard comment address
- VeriSign itself
- Finally, complain to the media. If they get lots of letters on a topic, they'll run stories. Try the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, Fox News, CBS News, ABC News, NBC News and MSNBC.
- The Department of Commerce; VeriSign's contract to operate
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Re:A source, but not an EXCLUSIVE source.
I learn all I need to know about current events from Fox News.
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Ticked at VeriSign? Tell these people!
- The Department of Commerce; VeriSign's contract to operate
.com and .org was originally with them. - The Federal Communications Commission, which oversees telecommunications.
- The Senate Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Communications; contact the committee itself, the chairman, the ranking member, and any of the other members you'd like.
- The House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, including the committee itself, the chairman, the vice-chairman, and the ranking member. Plus any of the other members you feel like contacting.
- The Federal Trade Commission, which hears consumer complaints.
- Your U.S. Representative
- Your Senators
- Your Governor
- Your State Legislators
- ICANN's wildcard comment address
- VeriSign itself
- Finally, complain to the media. If they get lots of letters on a topic, they'll run stories. Try the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, Fox News, CBS News, ABC News, NBC News and MSNBC.
- The Department of Commerce; VeriSign's contract to operate
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Re:Representative government?
*That number is most likely made up. Otherwise you would have to believe that 50% of the households in the US (more than the number that have Internet access) went to that website and put in their phone number.
Not according to Fox News. In this article, it states:
There are about 166 million residential phone numbers in the United States and an additional 150 million cell phone numbers.
It also has a break down of how many people signed up for the list through various means. If you don't want to read the article, then it is as such:
31.1 Million from the Web Site
10.9 Million by calling the toll-free hotline
8.6 Million transfered from individual state DNC lists.
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Well, the Judge is feeling the heat NOW!
From FoxNews: "Egged on by talk show hosts and angry Web sites, people have flooded West's office and home with calls and faxes, apparently trying to show him why they wanted to ban unsolicited sales calls. "They are just calling to tie up our lines," said Rick Wade, operations manager at the district clerk's office. "They just keep calling to harass us, like the telemarketers harass them, I guess." The phones at the federal courthouse were jammed Thursday morning and voicemail boxes were stuffed with messages blasting West's ruling that the Federal Trade Commission (search) lacked authority to create and operate the registry. West's home and office telephone numbers were posted on the Internet, and consumers angry with the ruling were encouraged to call. Calls by The Associated Press to West's home seeking comment were blocked by busy signals. The ruling even made late-night television talk show host Jay Leno's monologue Wednesday night. "The judge says the telemarketers can call you whenever they want," Leno said. "You know what we should do? Let's all call this judge tonight at home during dinner." West did please some businesses with his ruling Tuesday. Telemarketers say the list would devastate their industry and lead to the loss of thousands of jobs. Rick Ratliff, president of U.S. Security, Inc., one of the plaintiffs in a lawsuit challenging the list, said his company laid off half of its 600 employees because of restrictions on telemarketing. "U.S. Security does not sell anything over the phone," he said. "We simply ask for the opportunity to tell someone about the lifesaving benefits of our security and fire systems in a face-to-face meeting." The do-not-call registry appears that it will go forward after all. The House approved legislation Thursday intended to ensure the list goes into effect next week. After less than an hour of debate, which included potshots at West from both parties, House members voted 412-8 to approve the bill."
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Re:How many precincts in CA use Diebold?
That's not odd if you consider that the ACLU is owned by one of the political parties.
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Best Quote of All : Security through Obscurity!
From the Fox News article
Regarding the 160 pages redacted from the 200 page report, State Budget Secretary James C. DiPaula Jr said: "The best security is for you not to give a road map to the people who want to do harm," DiPaula said. -
Re:Yay Americans!
It seems like more Americans participated in this than they did in the last presidential election
Huh?
According to CNN, over 101 Million people cast votes for a major party candidate in the 2000 election. However, only 50 million people registered for the Do-Not-Call list.
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Re:Where is the ACLU in all of this?
If you'd pay a little more attention, you might have noticed that the ACLU, just yesterday, filed suit against the US Secret Service, specifically to defend our Right To Assemble and Freedom Of Speech.
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Another Alternate Story...
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Re:Unnecessary confusion
If the French were civilized, you'd have a point, but as they're not, their SI "standards" can be put right into that storage bin where you keep your ratty old shirts. You know, the ones that you use for working around the house to keep your nice clothes clean & civilized looking.
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Re:Prison Rape Researcher
Curious. I was just reading a Fox News article on that:
A bright light is about to be shone on an almost unseen social problem: prison rape. On Sept. 4, President Bush signed the Prison Rape Elimination Act, which provides for an annual Department of Justice review on the rate and effects of prison rape. Why should you care?...
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Re:O_o
Did they? Do you know the details of that confidential settlement?
No, I don't know. But they were sued once before for selling speakers with their computeres, and based on the agreement alone, they lost. So it's a fair assumption that Apple agreed to "stay out of the music business"
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More than 12 hours since the story broke and still
Though the world news organizations have had over 12 hours to cover this story, only Fox News has had an original article (note that Yahoo! News, Mac Central, etc all reference the Fox News article).
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Silliness
Fox News pointed out that a lawsuit on this was inevitable back in June.
Frankly, I think it's silly. When you say "Apple" and "music" in the same breath, what comes to mind, the IPod or an old Beatles record label? I hadn't even heard of them before this.
The whole thing kinda reminds me of the old GIF patent lawsuits. The "legal insider" from the article was quoted as saying, "When it first happened with the iPod, we said, 'What could they be thinking?'" If it really bugged them, why didn't they say something right at the launch -- why wait until now? Sounds a bit like, "Hmm, let's keep quiet on this for now; maybe we'll get lucky and IPods'll take off. Once they're established and Apple can't just spin the idea off to some other company, then we can sic the lawyers on'em again!
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Re:What they lose
Obligatory Anti-GoogleBomb: Fair and Balanced
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Re:Wanna make somebody think they're being sued?
Obligatory Anti-GoogleBomb: Fair and Balanced
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Re:Freedom from being sued?
Obligatory Anti-GoogleBomb: Fair and Balanced
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Re:Which products?
Obligatory Anti-GoogleBomb: Fair and Balanced
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Re:Perhaps if the RIAA *pays* $2000
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Re:Let's see..
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How Fast Can You Guess if AIM is Left or Right?From aim.org:
"How do you know the media are biased?
All the major media surveys for the past 20 years have shown that 80 to 90 percent of the mainstream media consistently vote for Democrats."
COMMON SENSE DISAGREES WITH AIM.ORG:
You can tell the media is biased based by actually measuring airtime they give to views/opinions/people categorized as conservative, centrist and liberal. There is no better method than this if you do your own measuring instead of relying on others unlike surveys which can easily be distorted (i.e. survey only well-known liberals while avoiding conservatives so we can say that the media are mostly Democrats or survey the idealistic journalists fresh out of college instead of the editors in charge).
As stated in an earlier post, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) have interesting reports like
Media Citations of Think Tanks in 2002:
- conservatives received 47%
- centrists received 41%
- progressives received 11%
Don't take their word for it, do your own measuring of airtime and see for yourself.
Gee, the media keeps telling us they are biased left while giving 400% more airtime to conservative views & guests. Do they think we're retarded?
Whether you are left or right, bias and distorted reporting hurts America. Fight fictional news even if it promotes your own views--if your views are sound, they won't need biased reporting as a crutch.
But if your views are not sound, they'll need to use biased reporting, ugly weirdos representing opposing views on TV, decent-looking people representing your views on TV and carefully worded survey/polling questions to make the masses think more people agree with you than them (and the few that disagree with you are ugly/weird/wimpy).
Check out the bio pictures on this page and ask yourself who you'd hire to represent your views and who you'd hire to represent your oppositions views. The confident jock or the wimpy/creepy Frankenstein mutant?
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Re: Why Censor When You Can Debunk & Ridicule?We all know that censorship doesn't work as well as it used to in the past.
The best strategies are to debunk, ridicule and associate valid stories/opinions with undesirable words/people like "communists", "lefties", "conspiracy theorists", etc.
For example, when interviewing "people off the street" make sure you have only the wackos presenting opposing views while you pick out "decent-looking, well-dressed" people to present your own views. And if there aren't enough people who share your views, hire some people off the street or go with local actors/models if your budget allows. Even if both views get equal airtime, the opposing views will be associated with ugly weirdos and who the hell wants to share the same views as them even if they're right?
A similar strategy is to hire strong-looking & charismatic tv/news personalities that support your own views while hiring ugly-assed & uncharasmatic "wimps" to offer very pitiful opposition. I'm sure you can find a decent example of this tactic by watching TV.
As you can see, your previously unpopular views can be easily associated with "winners" and opposing views are associated with "whiners, losers, traitors, communists, etc." without resorting to outright censorship.
The best part of this strategy is that it works because the average joe-sixpacks don't understand how to detect bullshit.
To sum it up: associate undesirable words/concepts/people to opposition and associate desirable words/concepts/people to your own views and don't let the pesky facts or Truth get in the way because perception is usually more important in manipulating the public.
This of course goes hand-in-hand with manipulating opinion polls and surveys by carefully crafting questions in ways that lead people to pick desired answers and then hiding the exact original wording of these questions when presenting the results to the public.
Who needs censorship when these tactics work so well?
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Re:list of stories
How to present a political agenda whilst masquerading as a news piece.
Roger Ailes has already done that in a much larger more effective way than Project Censored could ever dream of doing.