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Linux antivirus developers join Kaspersky Labs prostoalex writes "The Linux development team of Romania-based RAV AntiVirus, acquired this June by US-based Microsoft, joined Russia-based Kaspersky Labs. This transition took place after Microsoft confirmed there will be no Linux or Novell version of antivirus software. Kaspersky Labs now works on RAV Migration program for Unix/Linux users, since the company officials deem this market as one of the fastest-growing."
VeriSign must love attention. talon77 writes "Netsys is reporting that a class action lawsuit has been filed against Verisign due to their Sitefinder. It's about time."
And Anonymous Brave Guy writes "VeriSign are in legal trouble yet again, this time for handing over a domain name to a former employee of the former holder. Also some interesting tidbits in here about the impact of the sex.com case, the fact that since July domain names are regarded as property under U.S. law, and the idea that VeriSign might themselves be held accountable for punitive damages awarded against someone who takes over a domain name improperly."
Piling on, Anonymous submits: "Verisign seems to have issues with returning proper response packets for DNS queries on unused domains, so we thought we would give them a quick reminder in case they forgot what the right answer was. You can find pictures here. (This was on their building in Mountain View, and the signs said 'Verisign/Netsol, as if people didn't hate you enough already... How greedy/stupid are you? [Made with figlet/vim/a2ps/poster.c]')"
Update: 10/02 00:37 GMT by T : And (ooops!) this part got chopped off: "Note that the Verisign web search is powered by Inktomi for search and overture for ads, both of which are now owned by Yahoo. You can always vote with your dollars and your clicks."
Ohio uncappers peer at the ToS. Mike writes "Looks like Broadband Reports has posted a follow up to what happened to those Ohio Cable broadband users who had FBI agents confiscate their hardware for uncapping their modems (See original BBR story here, Slashdot story here). Looks like most of the offenders settled for fines and community service, but one took the case all the way, and eventually got it overturned because the cable company's AUP failed to clearly mention their legal stance on uncapping."
Thorn-in-side lessons, part IIXIIXV. jlechem writes "Lindows and Microsoft are at it again. Wired News is running a story about Lindows refusing to take down the settlement website reported on by Slashdot earlier. CEO Michael Robertsone stated 'Our plan is to continue to offer the MSfreePC service in spite of your threats. If required, we will be a voice in the courtroom defending a consumer's right to use technology and an online process to secure their settlement claims.'"
MPAA Scratches Oscar Screeners xstein writes "In a follow up to this story, the major studios have agreed to go along the MPAA's proposal to stop sending out screener tapes and DVDs to Academy members. The agreement would include MPAA's seven studio members, Disney, WB, Sony, Universal, 20th Century Fox, Paramount, and MGM, as well as their affiliates, which include New Line, Miramax, Focus Features and Sony Pictures Classics. Dreamworks, although not an MPAA member, also agreed to the ban. This move scratches a longstanding tradition, and is seen to hurt smaller, independent-minded movies distributed by MPAA members the most, though may allow truly independent studios such as Lions Gate to gain extra attention with their screener tapes. E! Online and Salon.com have the scoop."
Phantom Offices?
Ray B writes "On September 18th, Slashdot posted about an article on the Phantom video game console. Of particular note in the primary article investigating the Phantom's founder(s), was that the company did not even have physical offices.
Just four days later, the Phantom email Newsletter #2 is issued, with the first bit of news being:
"Infinium Labs recently signed a five-year lease on 10,000 sq. ft. of prime office space to locate its corporate offices in the Centre Pointe Building in downtown Sarasota, Florida. The Centre Pointe offices are in close proximity to many of the company's early investors, its corporate legal counsel and the industrial design firm that is developing the Phantom Game System(TM) prototypes"
Coincidence or damage control?"
Well, start with the Python then and work your way up. Wolfbone writes "A recent edition of 'Global Business,' a BBC World Service programme available here in RealAudio form, contains an admission that the BBC cannot afford to put it's entire archive online, contradicting an earlier Slashdot story and the BBC's own report. Even though it only has 11.56 Petabytes of the stuff, some of it recorded on wax cylinders, it would be too expensive, apparently, to keep their earlier promise. The rest of the programme is about the more general problems of long term archiving of data and how some organizations still don't trust digital electronic formats and prefer to stick with paper and microfiche."
Segway recall: in and out in 10 minutes! ptorrone writes "I got my Segway HT updated today, the 'recall' is a simple software update, it took 10 minutes and that was about it. To clarify what the recall is ...the HTs are not being sent back, Segway has people in each state of the USA and they update them. So far all owners have been notified and thousands have updated. The update makes it harder for people to ride after numerous low battery alerts (3 people out of 6,000 thought something else). Here are my pictures from the update procedure."
... What does banning screeners do to affect Indie filmmmakers?
Sorry if I'm being ignorant here, I'm not having a great day.
"Derp de derp."
Is there any digital database that large nowadays?
I don't think anything concerning the current state of the Phantom should be believed there is just too much undeniable proof that the guys a 'tard.
vampirical
Does that mean we can give Shrub a Segway, and he won't fall off this time?
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In the Phantom followup:8 /1544229 ?
"that the company did not even have physical offices"
So what's the https://slashdot.org/admin.pl?op=edit&sid=03/09/1
We recently had heard in the office over one of the Yellow Machine that's made by Anthology Solutions.
"The Value of Trust" indeed.
Qualitas edurus commercium, nullus penitus net rimor, nullus deus beneficium
maybe cars and transportation equipment are cathing up with software already!! We have bugs and crashes to start with.
If you lost your job today, don't despair. You may die tomorrow anyway.
How often will Microsoft do this rubbish. I don't even use RAV and never have but everytime I hear about their latest asset strip and close down I cringe...
Doesn't seem like those signs are terribly visible from afar, but at least the ones who take them down will be able to tell what it says. They might not get the point, though, not that the average passer-by would either.
"You tried your best and failed miserably. The lesson is...never try. Heh!" -Homer
How do i join the class action. I don't use my site much, just to put pics up for family and friends and stuff.. but the idea behind it really pisses me off. I have spam checkers (and sendmail) going apeshit about all these domains suddenly existing.. I don't really want a portion of the settlement (how unamerican of me) but I'd rather it go to schools. I just want versign to learn in the only way corporations do, with their wallet.
What are we going to do tonight Brain?
I thought the banners were a clever idea, although a bit small to make anybody really notice them in my opinion. . .
Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
Is it that hard for a "high technology" law firm to understand how DNS works?
A s/\"404\"/NXDOMAIN/g; would definitely improve their chances to win the law suit. ;-)
The actual complaint in the class action law suit has very serious confusion involving the technical issues surrounding the SiteFinder.
In the introduction, they discuss that the SiteFinder replaces what was previously done with 404 errors. However, as has been previously discussed many times here on SlashDot, 404 errors occur when the domain exists, but the requested document does not exist on the webserver hosting that domain (it is the webserver than returns the 404 HTTP error code). In actually, when a domain didn't exist, you would get an error stating "Could not find domain". The complaint even describes how, in the past, incorrectly typing a URL would give a 404 error (they use the typo "ssyncalot.com" as a typo of "syncalot.com"). This behaviour never occured.
Although I feel that legal action against Verisign is a good idea, the plaintiffs should perhaps organize their technical facts before appearing in court.
/<en
10 minutes... from a laptop... through a little plug...
How long before h4xx0rs are offering simple 10-minute updates to make Segways go 20 mph?
(By the way, the link in that article probably should have been this one.)
The bold print giveth, and the fine print taketh away
So does this mean Linux/Unix is going to beat Windows in the championship for most viruses available for the platform?
MSDOS: 20+ years without remote hole in the default install
Pity. Now those three people who own them are going to have to learn to walk again. What a shame that people have no concept of stored energy and how it's finite. The video of I guess it's GWB falling off of a Segway is damn hilarious.
Repeat after me!
I couldn't help but notice the quote from John Weglian, chief of the special units division of the prosecutor's office, when explaing why he is coming down so hard on modem uncappers. Cyber crime is potentially very damaging to society. We are taking a firm position on that type of criminal activity.
Uh, yea. I guess that is why they are putting virtually no effort into stopping the blatantly criminal spam and viruses that are spewed out every day by the millions. Besides, law enforcement is so busy protecting companies... err I mean society... from uncappers.
Wasn't there talk a while back about watermarking each DVD sent to the screeners, so they could track who leaked it?
For preventative maintenance, they could have set up a DRM solution that depended on a screener's private key.
They could have embedded the video on a BSD or Linux boot CD with an encrypted FS, so they'd have the DMCA on their side.
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A sort of BitTorrent-based filesystem would be really useful. A block of data would have both popular and unpopular programming on it, so that both would be equally available. A search through the system would point to the torrent managing that piece of data.
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Oh God, how embarrassing are those NXDOMAIN signs! I live around 3 minutes from Middlefield and Ellis, and I drive by there everyday. I didn't see this "protest".
Maybe, instead of using a dot-matrix printer, which made the letters almost invisible, they should have used a simple Sharpie pen. It would have been so much more visible. And maybe they should have used something else other than their obscure, stupid choice of words.
I wish I could see this entire debacle unfold:
1) Nerds spend hours thinking about a clever way of protesting
2) Nerds dig out their old dot matrix printer and print out their clever sign
3) Nerds put up sign outside of one of Verisign's buildings, not the HQ
4) Nerds take pictures thinking about how clever they are, and scamper off
5) Security guard comes by, sees sign, has no idea what it means, and throws sign in the trash.
It has zero impact, and makes these nerds look like such losers
I thought they would be interested in finding and prosecuting the offenders?
Couldn't they individually encode the discs so the source of the leak can be traced (I realise this would cost more as you can't use a single master disk)?
Then again, the RIAA hasn't had too much success with their customers, and this would probably only annoy their members.
I suppose they'll still need some kind of an alternative for promotions.
09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
(by the way moderator everyone needs a laugh sometimes)
You presume to tell ME, the mighty, powerful, and ignorant Slashdot moderator, how to go about modding your comment?
Offtopic for you! Meddle not in the affairs of moderators, for they are unsubtle, and quick to mod you down without cause.
Valenti says a new program developed by Caltech researchers allows a movie file to be downloaded in five seconds
Did I miss something here? Is this some quantum leap in information theory/signal compression? Or maybe Caltech was doing some tests in their labs on a gigabit Ethernet connection, and Valenti thought that it meant that any home user could achieve such download times as well?
There's 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I'm just thinking, if a few high volume websites were to include links to a 1-pixel GIF at bogus randomly generated domains, wouldn't sitefinder crumble, and zero the value of any collected statistics on domain name typos.
I think this would be much more entertaining than lawsuits or BIND hacks...
jeff
The domain was registered in 1990. From my experience, it is much more likely that the former employee, seeing the business benefit of the Internet, registered the domain listing him/herself as the registrant because most companys didn't give a sh*t about domain names in 1990. That was particularly true of startups. As I have done, the former employee was probably doing them a favor, gratis, and after years of use the company thinks that a domain that was never *truly* theirs, was theirs once the realized the worth of it.
For the record, I turned over the domains (and trademarks) that I registered to my former employer when I left, without them even asking. The schmucks didn't even offer to re-imburse me for the nominal fees.
Why does Peta want to byte them? Do they wear fur? /me ducks...
Linux AV software writers? Maybe they should team up with the Maytag repairman.
Oh, and for good measure... ummm... I dunno, pour some hot grits on that, make a Beowulf cluster. You're all smart guys, I'm sure you'll think of something.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Buford "Mad Dog" Tannen
The Academy members will just download the movies from the internet instead!
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Maybe they should team up with the Maytag repairman.
Gordon Jump, dude. Gordon Jump.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
RTFA.
It's been around for years. You can buy one surplus for USD$20K. That's just the library and robot handling, not the tape drive.
sony brochure
more pictures
HIV Crosses Species Barrier... into Muppets
Humm, I guess he and ever Sagway owner(all two of them) have mod points today.
There have apparently been a number of incidents where the riders of the bicycles, having stopped providing the motive force for the gyroscopic stabilization devices that keep the bicycle upright, fell off and sustained minor injuries.
While a small number of victims required stitches, almost all experienced emotional distress, as evidenced by excessive crying and requiring cuddling and care for their "boo-boo's".
Huffy is installing a free hardware upgrade in the form of wheeled outriggers known as "Stabilization Pods."
Oh yeah: Attn: Huffy Corporation and/or Holders of the Huffy Brand name: The above is SATIRE - please don't sue me!
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
you should surround that system with a fork/forget, and add a timeout to the wget (or use curl with "-m #") so that you don't spawn off too many. (make sure to reap children in the spawning loop).
I'm sure a machine on a broadband connection could spawn 40 requests in the time it takes one to reply.
Finally, you should really consider not using the bare URLs in the request because all you really do is hammer your local DNS server.
instead, make fake requests DIRECTLY to sitefinder-idn.verisign.com. To see what the request ends up looking like, run wget with headers turned on with one of those fake queries.
Then duplicate the request but substitute that static IP address. Your ISP won't think you're DoS'ing their DNS.
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
Aha. They put a photo of the building online from down the street as if to say "see, we have offices now". Mind you, anyone can take the photo they have. I know that building. I live practically down the street from it. I'll give them a week before I go in with my camera and find out the truth of the matter, hehheh.
Oogabooga
If ignorance of the law is no excuse, then neither is ignorance by the Law.
... how about some basic common sense? It's just unbelievable. How on EARTH could anyone believe that 23 individuals could appropriate a QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS of bandwidth over cable modems in such a short period? It's not like they were tapping into an OC3 or a major fiber trunk. One would have every right to expect the cops to have at least asked for some evidence that an actual crime was committed! I am truly staggered. Okay, a cable company behaved in an unethical and/or criminal manner (insert sincere expression of surprise here) but the fact that a bunch of supposedly professional "police officers" were so easily taken in is, well, disappointing.
... arrests? Seizures? FELONY CHARGES? My God. People speeding in cars who run red lights and might actually kill someone are given more respect. Gang-bangers that shoot people dead in the street can get better treatment! What were these cops thinking? Were they thinking?
I'm amazed at the complete and total lack of technological prowess exhibited by the law enforcement officials in the Buckeye case. Law enfarcement is closer to the mark. Hell, forget the computer skills
Somebody higher up in the cops' food chain should have said "WTF? Slap their wrists, say you're sorry, and send these guys home." This is called oversight, and it is supposed to prevent such egregious abuses. I imagine it would probably have been more than sufficient to deter any future "abberrant" behavior. But
Law enforcement purports to protect us from wrongdoing and frequently does, but this level of irrationality by government officials is just unnerving. I mean, what kind of judge signed the warrants that (I presume) were presented during these raids? Whoever he (or she) was ought to turn in his (or her) robes immediately, and go work in a computer store for a few months and learn a few useful facts before returning to the bench. I would further venture to guess that there are many judges who would benefit from such training. My apologies to any judges in the Slashdot audience, but considering how many poor technology decisions I've seen handed down by the Judiciary lately I feel justified in my opinion. It is no longer enough to simply understand the Law: one must have a good grasp of scientific and engineering principles as well, and a basic understanding of such terms as "bandwidth" probably wouldn't hurt!
The sad truth is that merely being accused of a crime in this country is punitive in and of itself. The sadder truth is the increasing number of individuals and corporations who abuse that fact for fun, profit, or as a means of intimidation. This reminds me of some older cases involving the Bell System where publicly-available documents that were accessed by crackers were arbitrarily valued at tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. This was done solely and deliberately to exceed legal minimums on financial damage to enable law enforcement to take action. This kind of behavior is unethical as hell, and should be illegal in and of itself, if it isn't already.
And I'll further say this: the rest of the nation's cable companies had better start distancing themselves from the Buckeye debacle. If they're smart, they'll indemnify their users from such actions, and limit their own recourse to termination of services, in writing. For most people, broadband is an expensive luxury, yet one that most have felt safe in using (viruses, trojans, hackers and spyware notwithstanding.) At least, we weren't afraid of the service provider itself.
If the public perception of broadband shifts to one of fear and anxiety (we're already well-past loathing) users will simply put that disposable income into some other avenue of entertainment. If that comes to pass they won't need to worry about bandwidth caps: they'll be out of business, and then were would I get my MP3s?
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
I emailed the law firm involved, and was stunned to actually get an answer:
;-)
The NXDOMAIN issue is part of the case as well - in Federal Court we have
mere "notice" pleading - frankly we could have simply said "they broke the
internet and we want the Court to fix it" and that would have been enough to
get the case started...Slashdot rocks and I do read the postings
Ira
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Daniel"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Verisign Case
> It appears you are attempting to sue Verisgn (we applaud you at Slashdot) but are suing them for something completely unrelated: a 404 error. The error that should be discussed is the NXDOMAIN error!
> Thank you, and best of luck with nailing the bastards.
knee-jerk? check. post? check. okay, time to read the article.
The link fixed itself a couple of hours after my posting. I guess it's offtopic now -- but that was definitely weird. Sorry for the confusion.
-AEton posting AC to avoid +1
Did I miss something?
I assume that this is suposed to be Roman numerals, but it's not a valid numeric value. I suppose most closely translated it would be "8 8 5" or "8 and 8 and 5". But that doesn't make very much sense.
If we're suposed to add these values together that would make arabic numerals 29, or XXIX in roman.
Maybe he means "eight hundred and eighty-five" bot correctly rendered in Roman is DCCCLXXXV.
Maybe I should just pronounce it as is...eekseeksev, but that sound doesn't homonymistic to any other numeric words that I know.
Is this an inside joke that I missed? Or does somebody need a refresher course on Roman numerals?
The thing that gets me is that broadband providers never have a minimum speed that they guarantee. If they do, it's something extremely small; ie, Earthlink guarantees 2400bps on its DSL service. However they usually do have a maximum speed which, if exceeded, they'll take notice. The double standard amuses me, "If we're giving the customer piss poor service we don't care but if they're getting really good connection speeds we do." Hmmm...
Reinvent the wheel only at either a lower cost, greater effectiveness, or your own personal enrichment and satisfaction.
It's not called a 'bug database', it's called a 'Manual' or "knowledge base" or "White paper".. by documenting them, bugs are turned into features.
... and you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Yeah! Stop using yahoo because they had the gall to sell an ad-server and web-search engine to verisign!
Good thinking.
How is yahoo to blame for what verisign uses their technology for? Are all software companies supposed to check what their software will be used for before they sell it?
I know yours works because of the brackets, try it with some letters too.
c'mon moderators! Mod this guy up, he put some work into it, and he's got *good* info! (Tosses his 3 non-existant AC mod points on top of this one.)
but it's sending me traffic. For free. Don't get me wrong, I hate NetSol as much as anyone who reserved domains back when they were the only game in town, charged $100, and left you on hold for two hours. And the sitefinder thing is just one more attempt to exploit a monopoly at the expense of would be competitors. But then while I was watching the web logs roll by for my site I spotted a refer from "sitefinder.verisign.com...". Sure enough, when I ran my log analysis, I've gotten 200+ visits from their search engine.
Now if they just send me another 999,800 more I'll consider myself paid back for my 3 years forced interaction with them.
Clitmap.com: A better adult search engine
The average reader can't immediately make the intellectual leaps some of these two-line jokes require. :(
There are a few leaps which aren't too hard:
1. [Insert SCO thought process here]
2. ???
3. Profit.
____________________
I for one welcome our [insert evil organization here] overlords....
____________________
In Soviet Russia.....
____________________
"All your [insert prized possession here] are belong to us."
____________________
[insert CowboyNeal one-liner for Poll]
A definite gem. Thank you! :)
Software is not supposed to be about how to work around a useability issue. - Ken Barber
MOD UP PARENT
The Academy members will just download the movies from the internet instead!
Dude, no they won't! Where do you think we got the internet rips?!?
Seriously, that's how I got my copy of Two Towers before I went out and bought it. Someone ripped the DVD that was given to one of the academy reviewers. Then, instead of compressing it, they put it on the internet as 6 gigs of raw DVD movie file. Weeeeeee! DVD burner, and bam, instant two towers.
To be honest, I haven't bought it yet, but I'm planning on buying a boxed set. I refuse to purchase 2 copies of the same movie, so I always wait for special editions and boxed sets. Case in point, dogma DVD.
~Wx
sig?
When did it say in the article that indie studios had decided to ban screeners? It didn't.
"Sufferin' succotash."
you're right, I sent them an email with a typo.
Kill Me Now!
knee-jerk? check. post? check. okay, time to read the article.
they didn't say what movie... maybe it's a *really* short movie... ;-)
Wow, great job tracking down these e-mails. Also, don't forget to contact the companies actually paying for SiteFinder, especially if you or your business have a relationship with them. Here are a few of them (websites only, someone else can find the contacts). Let them know what they're association with VeriSign is contributing to (domain name hijacking, disruption of internet standards, interference with spam filters, etc.) and that you'll encourage others to avoid (boycott) their products where ever possible. Some might not care (the gambling sites, for instance), but some should probably know better (E-bay, Dell, Pixar, etc.), and I bet that most don't have a clue and probably think they're being "net savvy" by promoting their products this way (such as the upcoming movies "Veronica Guerin" and "Brother Bear").
Let them know that what they're associated with is possibly illegal, is the subject of at least one class action lawsuit, and has some of the largest and active Internet communities and the Internet's governing body up in arms. And if they don't respond, you really should avoid their sites and services, miss their movie, or tell purchasing to avoid their computers as much as possible.
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My next sig will be ready soon, but friends can beat the rush!
Until today, for me the wildcard in .com wasn't much trouble. Everybody was making a lot of noise about basically nothing.
However, today I mistyped a domainname by one character. I then get redirected to some stupid sitefinder. I realize my mistake and mouse over to the addressbar to correct that single character typo. Not so. I Have to retype the whole thing.
This annoys me to no end. Crash verisign, crash!
Roger.
And I have signed you up for an embarassing number of pornographic magazines and movie clubs.
I do this so to help you fulfill your dreamland fantasy of being a playa.
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
Wow, I had missed the original story on the cable modem uncappers. I used to live in Toledo, and I know how horribly the Block family runs things. The Toledo Blade newspaper was especially bad. The thing that blows me away about that uncapping case was how they got the FBI called in. The FBI policy is (and rightly so) that they don't get involved with cases like that...unless the amount of the theft is over $250,000. It infuriates me how they guy from Buckeye cable "calculated" :P the amount of theft each person stole, and Hey! Whaddaya know? It came out to just over $250,000 so they could call in the federal whoopin' stick. That is a total load of BS. The only "calculation" they did was $250,000 / 23 uncappers = "Yeah, they must have stolen about this much bandwidth." There's no way bandwidth is that expensive. I am totally supporting that Buckeye Cable should have cut their service and/or brought some kind of civil case fine against them, but confiscating their own stuff through a false statement of damage amount is inexcusable.
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If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating