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The lack of features like mouse gestures are enough to keep me away from mozilla.

Both gestures and pie menus are available as add-ons.

I prefer RadialContext myself. It makes things just as quick as the mouse gestures, but since you still have a visible menu you don't have the problems of screwing up a gesture. I remember some gestures where if you screwed up a little it would end up doing the wrong thing. I never have this problem with the RadialContext, plus you don't have any of the complicated gestures either. Some of the gestures I found to be frustrating, like drawing an 'S' to view the source, or an 'h' to go home.

Yes, I use Pie Menus on Mozilla & Firebird as well. They're like gestures, but with some visual feedback, so each gesture is easy to learn. Get it here.

Opera ouse gestures are nice and efficient. But as you have
to learn them by heart, people use only a few of them.

An alternative is the RadialContext menu
for Mozilla and Phoenix. It has the same feel as gestures,
but adds a GUI to them. It takes some getting used to, but
you'll end up using a lot more gestures than you would with
other implementations.

Radial Context also accepts these same gestures and a lot more. Give it a try.

Look at http://optimoz.mozdev.org and Radical Context for Mozilla.

Personally I feel Radical Context is better than simple gestures, but YMMV.

Actually moz has had gestures for a while: http://optimoz.mozdev.org/.

But something even better than gestures are the pie menus (found on the same page above, but also at: http://www.gamemakers.de/mozilla/radialcontext/) they are like gestures with a gui (indeed after you use them for a while you never look at the pie-menu any more, except to find obscure actions).

My favorite: RightClickandHold->UpRight->Down->Release (Closes the current tab)

Derek

Good point. Try RadialContext ig you haven't already. I love this feature. Wish that this could be incorporated into normal Apps. This is a much better approach than a normal toolbar.

Now if only the spellchecker worked with 1.2b ;-)

Where they have a pie menu plug-in for Mozilla. I am a huge pie-menu fan. They are so much faster than a right click menu where you have to look down through all the options, and find the one that you want, and position the mouse just right, and then click. What a waste of motor control.

With pie menus, you can internalize the movement, and do it without even looking at the screen. I'm loving Radical's back and forward are just click, drag left (for back) or click drag right (for forward) When I want to full screen, I drag diagonally up and to the left, then curve around to the right. They've done a great job.

Another beautiful pie menu implementation is in Natural Selection the mod.

Now I just want to zip around web pages all day.

-Jim

First, I dont know what all this hubub about tabbed browsing and mouse gestures has been. W/o a quick way to cycle through my tabs,

Mouse gesture Up-Left or Up-Right IIRC.
Or CTRL-PgUp / CTRL-Pg Down.
Or try the Radial context pie menus - a little easier to learn than the mouse gestures.

Personally I find the Tabbrowser Extentions add a bit more functionality to tabs aswell. (I particularly like the addition of a close button to each tab, and the ability to drag'n'drop to re-order the tabs.

w/o being to have a tab be automagically reloaded,

See the Tabbrowser Extention above.

w/o a keyboard shortcut to close the tab,

CTRL-W

There are mose gestures too, but you didnt ask that :)

I dont see why opening multiple windows and using the WinXP group programs feature isn't any better.

Memory, and (personally) speed. I'm already focussed on that window, so having a 'taskbar' on that window seems faster than going to the real taskbar, hunting down the correct application group, and then choosing the new window.

Second, the auto-scroll Moz bug has been around forever. Every time Ive been on another computer and browsed in IE, I realiz how often I use that feature. It drives me crazy not having it in Moz.

We're different I guess. I prefer the scroll wheel.

Third, maybe I can w/ a theme, but I can not quickly move and re-arrange my bars like I can in IE.

On it's way. Pheonix includes something like this atleast.

On top of that its very anoying when I go to some sites to be told I have to have such and such browser.

You might try something to mung your UA string. How about the PrefsBar2.

Numero cinco. Mime types. It is really anoying to click on links like .rar, .wmv, etc. and just have the file not downloaded, but opened in a new window or tab. I see where I can add such mime types, but this should be done already.

Misconfigured server problem. But look on the bright side, at least Moz doesnt automagically run .exe s with a mime type of audio/x-wav ;)

7. Mouse gestures were a joke. Every time I wanted to highlight something, and then copy it, the gestures decided I wanted to close Moz. I could have saved this with a modified key, but then what is the point of the gesture if I have to hit my keyboard?

Preferences>Advanced>Mouse Gestures. Change the 'Make Mouse Gestures with' option to something more sensible like "Right Mouse button". I agree, 'Left Mouse button' is a bit of a silly default.

8. Until I hunted it down, Moz would not let me use anything other then composer for mailto: links. This I was able to fix, but it was not cool.

As you know know, theres a line you can set in your prefs.js file (I cant for the life of me remember what it is though - I use composer :) )

9) I'm on a 56k modem, so couldnt comment. Seems weird though

10) IE and Moz seem roughly equal on my WinXP machine. I just prefer browsing in Moz though.

Ill finish out my two weeks, but I can't wait to get back to IE. I am just as anxious to try Moz again after the next big release.

The first time I tried Mozilla seriously (back in the 0.9.2 days), I went running back to IE pretty quickly. I think it's quite a big culture shock initially.

I went back to it at about the 0.9.5 stage, dug around the preferences for a bit, and it's been my default browser ever since.

They don't post the README anywhere, and there is nothing on the site to indicate that you should backup your chrome directory - you don't get to see the README until after the fact.

I admit that I was stupid for trusting that it wasn't going to change things much - my mistake, and I will be extra careful in the future. Fortunately they provided a way to disable it (and it made me finally get my three button mouse working properly last night as well). Still, I don't consider myself a moron in these affairs - last week I got that Linux kernel driver for the PowerGlove compiled and working properly with my modded glove (yes, I soldered it myself back in 1993/94 and had it working with Rend386 under DOS on my 486 box) - I didn't blindly trust the source on that one, I read through it (it was only 5K or so), checked it out, verified that it wasn't doing anything hinky, then compiled and installed it - worked great. However, for that code I _could_ download it before install - I wasn't able to with this code.

If you know of a way I could have, that was referenced off the homepage or site somewhere, for a tar install or something, please point out my true idiocy - please!!!

You can view some screenshots on this page.

Rather than looking at that page, you could always install mozilla and try out the menu yourself.

I thought so too, then I tried loading the page in Mozilla. (Remember when Bill Gates used to lock out Netscape now and then?) Loaded slow, but loaded and I now have pie menus!

Here's some relevant links that still seem to load rapidly: Developer's home page

Screenshots of the menus with a key to their functions.

I thought so too, then I tried loading the page in Mozilla. (Remember when Bill Gates used to lock out Netscape now and then?) Loaded slow, but loaded and I now have pie menus!

Here's some relevant links that still seem to load rapidly: Developer's home page

Screenshots of the menus with a key to their functions.

Hello everybody, and thanks to Linus and all the other kernel hackers for this marvelous piece of software called linux 2.4.

Please do yourself a favor and compile the kernel with HZ=1024 instead of HZ=100 (this is the frequency for multitasking timeslices).
This gives you a much better "perceived performance" especially for gui applications.

The drawback is that since the machine switches the execution context more often, performance goes down a bit. But on my machine (K6-II 350MHz, 196MB) it is less than one percent, so it does not matter at all as long as you do not do serious number crunching.

If you compile with a very strange value like 4096 Hz (yes, I tried that too :-), ps and top get irritated but everything else works just fine. In fact, I write this post at 4096! Proof:

ps
Unknown HZ value! (4096) Assume 100.
PID TTY TIME CMD
862 pts/0 00:00:01 cat
882 pts/1 00:00:04 bash
893 pts/1 00:00:02 wvdial
1035 pts/2 00:00:04 bash
1042 pts/2 00:00:04 ps

With 1024 even ps and top do work, since this frequency is used by the alpha port. And your KDE/Gnome/whatever will feel much better even with the current scheduler.

Sorry if this is redundant, but I think it is important,


MrRight

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