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Download while you still canWell it has been almost 6 years since Napster made its way into our lives? 6 Years Really? Lets look around and see what file sharing programs are left after the music and movie biz nuked the crap out of most of them.
1. Emule - This is one of the best we found out there. Hint (Search for server.met on google to update your server list)
2. Bearshare - Nice Gnutella client, lots of good hits
3. Limewire - Another Gnutella client. It even works on the Mac!
4. Shareaza - A beautiful Gnutella client with no spyware.
5. BitTorrent - Perfect for downloading movies, or that latest linux distro
6. KaZaa - Old favorite. Oh yea - Aussie users, you can't download - Yea Right!
7. Azureus - BitTorrent client that works on Mac, Linux, and Windows 8. Morpheus - Wow. They are still around? Wha happened!
9. Gnucleus - Open source Gnutella for you freeloading open source hippies out there - Yea I am talking about you
10. Napster - Ah, just put this one here to see if you are still reading, and I guess for shits and grins too
So there you have it folks. These are slim pickings. Get um while they still work!
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Sun E3500
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Re:I have to agree
shareaza? try gnucleus
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Re:"Third-party applications" my ass...
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Maybe they should be more like us at WPI.....
over here, we've had a network filesharing program for years. Early on stuff like kazaa and other p2p programs were banned, and well, we started using Gnucleus's Lan client. Maybe they should do the same if they already haven't.
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Damn you Slashdot!
2003-08-21 18:22:17 Music filesharing may be legal in Canada (articles,music) (rejected)
I am Canadian. I read Technews. I submitted this to Slashdot in August.
I guess I just go console myself with Gnucleus and legally download some more music. I would use pot, or perhaps do something in the gay community to console myself as well - but neither of those things appeal to me. Oh well, at least I still have Canadian beer! -
Gnucleus
Gnucleus has a LAN-only mode.
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Anyone ever heard of Gnucleus?
I can't believe that when I searched the list of replies to this article there is no mention of Gnucleus. Not only is it open source, but there is not spyware or anoying pop-up ads in the program. I have used quite a few different Gnutella clients and I have found gnucleus to be one of the better. Sadly, they don't have a linux verison, but you can get the source and probably figure out a way to make it work on Linux or you could just run it in on linux using a windows emulator like Wine.
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Re:those using "illegal" should understand the law
Yup, yup, yup.
I use Gnutella and Overnet to share some free 3D & Poser files I've created; I also do a lot of animations just for the heck of it that are not really something I want to include in my regular portfolio, so they get shared also.
If I wanted to do any up or downloading of anything illegal, I would surely not use a service that reports exactly who I am to anyone who wants to know, when there are fine packages like Freenet freely available (something I also share on gnutella; I had the thought once or twice that countries that block Freenet installer downloads might NOT be able to block one of the gnutella clients....just doing my part for world freedom).
There are many, many legitimate uses for P2P.
Wow. I really got Link-Happy on this one.
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Don't you mean...
StreamCast, which redistributes the Gnucleus peer-to-peer software, with a number of added features.
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Re:Well, let's look at the list
Well, how about open source application that are good enough to compete with proprietary software?
I can think of one off the top of my head. Gnucleus, a free open source peer to peer file sharing program. I have been using it for months and am quite satisfied with it. No spyware, no "permissions" to modify my computer, no worry about them selling out aka napster. My biggest complaint though, not enough people on the network. I think if most people who were on kazaa et al, were aware of Gnucleus and it it's advantages they'd switch over.Now that I've given a good example of a better open source program, I'll concede the main point your trying to make, propietary software tends to work better for the masses. Regardless of the fact that it is often inherintly inferior, it has what the masses think they want, pretty gui, marketspeak (try looking at anti-virus software lately?), and a source for troubleshooting.
All things considered, I think some open source is maturing to the point where it could start to overtake closed source, especially with utilities. The question at this point is not whether or not it can be made, but whether or not it can be made to look like geek free normal software for the masses. Your right, most closed source software doesn't have much to worry about right now, the question is when will open source software start taking some of closed source software's marketing lessons to heart?
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the real gnutellaAs mentioned in previous posts, the specification posted has nothing to do with Gnutella, Sharazea is just stealing a widely recognized name, this specification has nothing to do with Gnutella. If your interested in real gnutella development go to the Gnutella Developers Forum. There are quite a few open source clients available, the most popular being Limewire and Gnucleus.
I've been playing around with the limewire source for ahwile, it is well documented and there is no spyware in the open source version. I love how people complain about Limewire and spyware, when it is open source. Anyone can take the gpled limewire source and package it without spyware without having to reverse engineer it like closed source KaZaa.
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Gnucleus & GnucDNA
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Nothing UnusualAlmost every college and university has blocked or limited P2P software from accessing the internet, simply because the bandwidth is too expensive. Here at WPI, soon after Napster became popular, internet connection speeds dropped to less than 10% of what they previously were. After blocking P2P software, bandwidth use dropped a whopping 87%.
However, they do allow, and even encourage, the use of GnucleusLAN, which allows access on the local network. Since it is all local, we get really high transfer rates (at least 400KB/s), and it doesn't degrade network performance. Yes, the files are at least a week old (many kids get files of Kazaa when they go home for the weekend), but I've been able to get more stuff than I ever could on the outside.
You have to remember that P2P software is very inefficient with bandwidth. As this article shows, P2P programs can generate as much as 150KB/s of downstream traffic even when you aren't downloading stuff.
So, in conclusion, stop whining (and good luck finding any other college which allows unrestricted P2P access). Just be lucky that you have any access to internet P2P -- most college students don't anymore.
Can someone tell me why this is news?
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Nothing Unusual
Almost every college and university has blocked or limited P2P software from accessing the internet, simply because the bandwidth is too expensive. Here at WPI, soon after Napster became popular, internet connection speeds dropped to less than 10% of what they previously were. After blocking P2P software, bandwidth use dropped a whopping 87%. However, the do allow, and even encourage, the use of GnucleusLAN, which allows access on the local network. Since it is all local, we get really high transfer rates (at least 400KB/s), and it doesn't degrade network performance. Yes, the files are at least a week old (many kids get files of Kazaa when they go home for the weekend), but I've been able to get more stuff than I ever could on the outside. You have to remember that P2P software is very inefficient with bandwidth. As this article shows, P2P programs can generate as much as 150KB/s of downstream traffic even when you aren't downloading stuff. So, in conclusion, stop whining (and good luck finding any other college which allows unrestricted P2P access). Just be lucky that you have any access to internet P2P -- most college students don't anymore. Can someone tell me why this is news?
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Setup a local Lan Master Node
Gnucleus allows you to have a gnutella master on a lan. I think its extermely cool they allow you to still use P2P. But a large place like a college should use local nodes, why waste bandwidth?
Save the bandwidth for CounterStrike. (-; -
GNUCLEUS
Open source, fun, and a damn nice guy runs it.
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Re:Crap like this is going to Kill P2P
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Re:TranslationI also understand that with current P2P clients, it is nearly impossible to limit your traffic to a local network without a consistent configuration among ALL clients on the local network. If even a single client on the local network is allowed to connect to the outside world, the rest of the P2P local network is opened as well.
Gnucleus has a LAN version which seems to have been developed for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Works in WINE too. -
Ah!
You've noticed this too? Is there any trend to the IPs of machines sharing these? Are they all at sony.com or something? (Hey, they could be grievously stupid...) In any case, perhaps some provider like Gnucleus could provide a realtime ban-list of this kind of abuse. Centralizing this information wouldn't have any legal ramifications, and while it's a flawed, stopgap solution, it would work, at least for a while.
I wonder if those results are virii or something. I usually just filter them out by requiring filesizes about 100k...
Have you noticed the "[searchterms] free bangbus passes.htm" and .url files you get sometimes? I think it's just spammers doing some of this, and not the actual media industries.
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Misleading
Doesn't work:
Reason 1) Most p2p clients return the most popular files, so if someone downloads a fake, they will delete. Unless RIAA or whetever is running a p2p farm.
Reason 2) Someone said something about CRC. A lot of clients do what is called we usually call hashing, with SHA1, Tiger (even bitprint), etc... But it's widely used to compare versions of the same file, regardless of the title. No Gnutella client currently supports search by hash, but Edonkey does (also urls like edonkey://HASHNUMBER)
Anyway, fakes are usually useless. And all they do is incite the user to go to sites like ShareReactor and read the new and the forums. So the user begins to meet with other people, form a community, learn more and more how to do p2p the right way.
Oh, btw, Morpheus 1.9 will be out soon. Probaly a crap release like the first Preview Edition, which is a Gnucleus clone.
Also, search by hash and download of segments (unfinished parts of a file from other computers) are expected soon to be deployed on Gnutella. I just hope the damn GDF decides this fast, since it's really the next step that should be taken (IMHO). -
I just have to complain. . .
I submitted this story three weeks ago. Way to drop the ball, editors!
I never had much success with Audiogalaxy. All the songs I've, erm, downloaded for educational purposes in recent days have been from Gnucleus. As poor as the copyright controls were on AG, they were enough to deter a l4m3r like myself. -
Re:Someone actually uses Kazaa??
You guys might want to try gnucleus.
Only bad thing about it for most of you is that it only is a windows version. However it is not owned by a company at all so there are no single place that anyone can go to "shut it down". It searches all of the Gnutella networks for your files that you are searching for. It is pretty powerfull IMHO.
It is an open source P2P system with a download area for the source code, so all you Linux junkies out there I am sure can morph it into a Linux version. :-) -
A mini-P2P between yourself and friendsGive me a P2P solution that allows me to selectively authorize requests to my system and communicate only with those other people that I wish to communicate with. A mini P2P between myself and my friends.
Why don't you and your friends set up your own Gnutella network?- All get Gnucleus or some other Gnutella client
- Wipe the provided node IPs out of the node cache file (GnuCache.net for Gnucleus)
- Fill the node cache with the IPs of your friends. (This would probably the most difficult part, as your friends would be unlikely to all have static IPs. This problem may be overcome by using Dynamic DNS.)
- Have your friends do likewise, and you have precisely the mini-P2P network that you wanted, with only minimal effort.
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Uh, use Kazaa and grokster for privacy? huh?
Have none of you heard of gnucleus? gnutella, free, spyware-free, open source?
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Who Cares...But in a serious way. This company was destroyed the moment it was decided maintaining the fscking phonebook was illegal.
Although for a short time it was great, and most certainly changed the face of audio entertainment, we can see Darwinism at work. Ideas and implementations which exist in our current tech world, exist in a hostile world, where the single greatest threat comes from the "subpoena attack". Those devices and implementations which are immune to this attack are the ones which will thrive and survive.
If it hadn't been for the destruction of Napster, I doubt there would be the flurishing of the Gnutella clients we see today. And IMHO, although Napster was great for music, Gnucleus is a far better tool for sharing information/entertainment than Napster ever was, or could ever hope to become.
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Re:Good idea
gnucleus is a reliable, working, non-shitty, ad-free Gnutella client. I think you would be quite pleased with it.
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Gnucleus
If you want Kazaa without Spyware, why not use Gnucleus? Gnucleus is the open-source client that Kazaa and Morpheus are directly descended from. Get it here.
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Exactly!
Instead of Kazaa et al I have switched to Gnucleus. This is one of the only real Open Source Gnutella network clients for Windows. For Linux there are so many great Open Source Gnutella clients.
It works great. No spyware or addware, and since the Gnutella network is an open P2P network it can be expected to exist when all the other proprietary networks have been closed. -
GNUCLEUS
On Win2K, I use Gnucleus, a fine and FREE open-source Gnutella client hosted at SourceForge. Gives you access to anyone on the Gnutella net--users of Morpheus, Limewire, Bearshare, etc. It's quite sophisticated and intelligent (simultaneuous d/l's of the same file from multiple hosts, in-depth peer and net stats, etc.). Nice, honest OSS. ZERO crap. Not as pretty or friendly as Limewire, but then it doesn't run in a Java VM either (shudder). Plus, Limewire is now hosting ads and bundling "companionware," at least for the PC client.
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gnucleus
Gnucleus is a FAST, open-source window$ client in a relatively stable state right now. It also works in Wine, from what I hear. It has lots of features not present in slower clients like Limewire and, being open-source, doesn't lock out other clients like BearShare does. Morpheus has switched its entire network to Gnutella on a modified Gnucleus client, so there is no longer the "lack of files" excuse for using a proprietary network instead of gnutella. If you download it, be sure to "evolve" to version 1.6.3, as the version on the site is not very stable.
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Re:buts its open source
Heh heh, it's only open source because they've modified the Gnucleus client to contain the Morpheus artwork and assorted "hidden functionalities" (I doubt that they'd distribute them as open source if they were attempting to obscure them from the public's view). The Slashdot editors accepted a pseudo-fabricated story at the beginning of the month with information about how Morpheus PE was a GPL violation. Apparently, Streamcast had not yet made the source available.
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Re:Sleezy, but no point in Morpheus anymore anyway
Exactly. Why the hell are people using it anyways? Go here to download the spyware free and opensource version.
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Re:That's really clever..
Business 101 - try really , really hard to piss off your customers
Ah yes, the real model.
Anyway, this is pretty damn evil. I bet the gnucleus guys are loving that they're being associated with such horrible scumware. -
Delete Morpheus
First, they took an open source app, Gnucleus, and repackaged it as their own, adding nothing while actually degrading the software by adding popup ads.
Second, they started banning from their chat room anyone who mentioned this fact and posted the url to Gnucleus.
Now, they're installing scumware in order to control your browser for their own profit even while you're not using Morpheus.
Anyone left who still wants to argue with me about whether or not Music City is a company of degenerate sleazebags? Anyone who still disagrees with me that the proper course of action is to delete Morpheus and install Gnucleus immediately? (at least until something better comes along). -
Re:What is the plus side to using Morpheus?
Heh... I wonder what website a Morpheus user would find himself at if he clicked here.
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Re:Gnucleus
Absolutely. Gnucleus lets you download any file type and supports multi-source downloading, allowing you to grab chunks of a large file from several different servers. It's also got an auto-evolve function, but anyways I'm rambling. Definately check it out.
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You forget to mention Gnucleus in your expose'
You didn't once mention Gnucleus , the fine open source structure that Morpheus lifted to keep up there ad revenues.
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Morpheus Sucks
It's because Morpheus sucks. The client, which Morpheus STOLE, is wonderful. It's called Gnucleus. It's open source, free, and the future. Try it here.
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These Are the Saints to Whom You Shall Bow
heaven
Lots of thanks to everyone in this list, none of us get paid, we do it out of creating something for the greater good.
Developers
John Marshall - Gnucleus Author, from New Hampshire in the USA
Jacques Exelrud - Created self saving statuses in the transfer window
Thomas Hille - Working on the Plug-In System
Darren - New Icon look-up system
DA - Fixed some bugs in the transfer window
Sascha Nitsch - Fixed a couple memory leaks
Jerry Smith - Working on an internal web server
Andrey Klinger - New search code and fixes to file lists
Herve Le Breton - Oasis developer, plans to do some Gnucleus engine work
Sven - Fixed refreshing of all the views in Gnucleus during resize
Niderost B.U. - Revised CVS update instructions
Arun V - Working on a version of gnucleus for U2 fans and had the cool idea of simplifying the connect screen
Mark Dennehy (retired) - My C++ / MFC mentor in my first month of creating this project
Aaron Putnam (retired) - Opened my eyes to the wonderful world of STL
Scott Kirkwood (retired) - Lots of quality work, new list box classes and drive space info
Nathan Brown (retired) - Protocol and grunt work in the beginning
Justin Marrese (retired) - Hashing, hash, hash, hash
Graphics / Web
Gus - Created the cool new XP compatible icons
Bernard Lee - Made the big logo over at SourceForge
Derrich Hafemann - Did some graphics on this page and in Gnucleus
Jared Tomlin - Web design support
Roger Ryder - Working on getting some Gnucleus T-Shirts out!
Shawn R. - Created the current gnucleus logo with the molecule looking effect
Testers
Felix Ordelheide - Runs a large private Gnucleus LAN over in Germany
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Gnucleus Responds to the Morpheus Bullshit
Morpheus
Friday 03-02-2002
I had a feeling this would happen, Morpheus was moving in the direction of gnutella and the only reasonable way of getting there quickly was by using established code. As long as they post their source code and credit us in the program I dont have a problem with this, give the GPL the props it deserves. I dont even know what to think, I wish they contacted me or any of the other gnutella developers or protocol maintainers before doing this.
Gnucleus is a honest, well writen client. Please dont let this action by StreamCast tarnish your impression of us. We will continue as usual working on the next version of Gnucleus. Thanks for your support.
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Delete Morpheus, install Gnucleus
There's a name missing in this debate: Gnucleus.
Some of you might not realize the depths of sleaze to which Morpheus has descended. To make their latest "preview version", they took an open source Gnutella client named Gnucleus (http://www.gnucleus.com), added their branding and annoying popup ads, and redistributed it as the new version of Morpheus.
They did not even contact the developers of Gnucleus before they ripped off their software. And they ban anyone from the Music City chat room who even mentions the existence of Gnucleus.
The "developers" of Morpheus are not people who deserve your loyalty or concern. My advice to everyone is to immediately delete Morpheus and and install Gnucleus. It's the same program but without the advertising and popups. And by doing so you'll be showing a little respect to the people who actually wrote the program, rather than the pieces of shit who renamed it and are attempting to pass it off as their own. -
FILE STEALING L4|\/|3r5Support Gnucleus, you wet dream teeny-boppers!
Features
Open Source
The code that makes this program is free! Anyone who wants to is free to modify my program and make their own versions. The advantage of open-soure is that people can also find problems in the code and fix it themselves without waiting for me to fix it for them. This gives you, the user, confidence that gnucleus will never become 'out of date', even if I am no longer able to work on this project someone can always come out with new versions.
Simple and Powerful
Keep it simple, stupid. Gnucleus is created with the mind set that first time users should be able to open the program and get files immediately. To achive this kind of usablility I did not dumb down the program in any way. Advanced features are still fully accessible to the user, but they will only be found and understood by advanced users. Over time as a users become experienced and appreciates the kind of power that they have over the program.
Mulitple Windows
One of the most distinguishing features of Gnucleus is that it is not just one big dialog with tabs seperating different parts of the program. Gnucleus has sub-windows inside itself so that users can observe different aspects of the program simultaneously. Such as watching downloads progress while chatting with a friend, or performing an unlimited number of searches at the same time.
Not Evil
Unlike many file sharing systems, Gnucleus is not run by a company. This project has been active for over a year and no one has made a dime of it. We do not want your money, we want your support in development and making this program something great. Few windows programs are open-source, this is one of the few, because of that it is impossible for us to ever charge you for this program or future versions. I make this program out of my need for a honest file sharing system.
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GNUCLEUS
Support Gnucleus
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Re:The more the RIAA tightens its grip...
Gnucleus does this. Try this. You need to use 1.6beta as multi-source downloading is not implemented in earlier versions.
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Delete Morpheus and install Gnucleus
"Fork" seems to grand a term for just taking someone else's code and adding annoying popup ads to it.
Answer me this: is there ANY reason to use the new Morpheus rather than Gnucleus? Seems to me that Guncleus is just Morpheus without a whole lot of annoying shit added.
By the way, I got booted from the Morpheus chat room about six times yesterday for posting the Gnucleus URL. They seem to think they can supress the fact that they just took the code from Gnucleus and put their own branding info and advertising on it. -
Looks like both violate the GPL...I took a look at the requirements for compiling Gnucleus. Now I'm wonderingif Gnucleus doesn't violate the GPL by itself:
What you need to build Gnucleus:
Microsoft Visual Studio... Doesn't look like "anything that is normally distributed [...] with the major components" of Microsoft Windows (quoted text comes from paragraph three of the "Terms and Conditions" sections of the GPL).
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Not only that ...
But the Gnucleus team is really happy with Morpheus. The "news rant" i think was due to the MusicCity attitude. They didn't even the contact Gnucleus team.
But they indeed are very proud, and happy. Take a look:
http://www.gnucleus.com/general/clones.html
Here's the text:
"Morpheus: Also a post-Gnucleus 1.0 clone. Wow, this was unexpected, 50 million users and they switch over to the Gnucleus engine... uhm.. welcome aboard!" -
Delete Morpheus and install Gnucleus
I just tried Gnucleus and the new Morpheus. After that I spent about half an hour in the Morpheus channel fighting with the operators. I used to recommend Morpheus to everyone but I have totally turned against them now. Morpheus can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.
What they did is they took an open source program at http://www.gnucleus.com and basically "stole" it, though it's legal to do so under the license it was released. They took the source code for the program, without even informing the gnucleus guys, put their own branding info on it, added popup ads, and released it as the "new" Morpheus. They added NOTHING, they just made it worse with ads, There is not a single reason to run the new Morpheus. Go with Gnucleus -- it's precisely the same program, but with the ads removed.
Also, since the people that did Gnucleus actually are able to write their own software, Gnucleus will be the source of improvements and updates, not Morpheus.
The channel operators on Music City are very afraid of people learning this fact. They kicked me several times for mentioning Gnucleus. Somehow they think they can supress the fact that they entirely ripped off other people's work. It's not going to happen, though, you can't hide lameness of this magnitude.
Morpheus has discredited themselves forever as far as I'm concerned.
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Delete Morpheus and install Gnucleus
I just tried Gnucleus and the new Morpheus. After that I spent about half an hour in the Morpheus channel fighting with the operators. I used to recommend Morpheus to everyone but I have totally turned against them now. Morpheus can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.
What they did is they took an open source program at http://www.gnucleus.com and basically "stole" it, though it's legal to do so under the license it was released. They took the source code for the program, without even informing the gnucleus guys, put their own branding info on it, added popup ads, and released it as the "new" Morpheus. They added NOTHING, they just made it worse with ads, There is not a single reason to run the new Morpheus. Go with Gnucleus -- it's precisely the same program, but with the ads removed.
Also, since the people that did Gnucleus actually are able to write their own software, Gnucleus will be the source of improvements and updates, not Morpheus.
The channel operators on Music City are very afraid of people learning this fact. They kicked me several times for mentioning Gnucleus. Somehow they think they can supress the fact that they entirely ripped off other people's work. It's not going to happen, though, you can't hide lameness of this magnitude.
Morpheus has discredited themselves forever as far as I'm concerned.
Once again: go to http://www.gnucleus.com and use their software. Delete Morpheus at once.