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Morpheus Infiltrates Other P2P Networks
An anonymous reader writes "Morpheus was the number one post-Napster P2P app until Sharman Networks took over KaZaa and got them bumped off the FastTrack network. Now Morpheus is back on FastTrack, according to MP3NewsWire, tapping into it and the other leading networks through a beta of the NEOnet technology in the just-released version 4. Thomas Mennecke over at Slyck speaks more about it with Michael Weiss, CEO of StreamCast Networks." prostoalex also points to a ZDNet article discussing this new version of Morpheus, and notes the Download.com warning that: "Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings."
Doesn't this mean now that the RIAA only has to download one program when they want to find file swappers and what not?
Morpheus always seemed to look a bit dated aswell..
Morpheus got back in the Matrix? Any word on Neo?
If Morpheus wants to capture a big share of the product market and really make a stand, it should do two things which I believe are critical:
A successful 3rd generation P2P program should;
a) Either have no spy-ware or, if necessary, do it out in the open. List each program that is in use, what it is recording, and remove it on an uninstall. It's one thing to have advertising and tracking information: its another to pull a Sherman and hide it all (and then !deny all when they get caught)
b) Have some sort of way to filter out the fake files put out by record companies and the RIAA. Check files, particularly MP3s, for filler, or repetitions of strings (the usual cause of noise on fake MP3s). Make users able to chose the actual content that they are after. Perhaps also blacklisting of unreliable users from a user level?
Put in these two features and your program can be competitive on any server (particularly ALL servers)
I wonder what the size of the profit they reap from spyware?
"Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your eating habits, deliver doomsday predictions, collect the neighbours paper, or may leave an unpleasant taste in your mouth."
Be you Admins? nay, we are but lusers!
Have ya ever noticed that Windows can't see your Linux partitions?
KFG
"Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings."
Doesn't Kazaa do these things anyway?
Why would anybody ever download something bundled with the crap referred to here, much less install it? Such "third-party applications" make the main product worse than useless.
I'm surprised there isn't a completely open-source, distributed P2P filesharing application widely available to people. Such a thing, when advertised as been spyware/adware-free, would likely be a huge hit. But I guess the "distributed" problem is a tough one, and it's the only way to avoid having to host some sort of master server (which would be expensive).
BitTorrent is probably the closest thing we have so far, but it doesn't provide an index or anything along those lines...
Use 'slashdot stuff' in the subject line in any email you send me if you want to get past the spam filter.
Who cares?
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The answer to spyware ? Two words: "Reverse Snapshot".
Long live VMWare.
DZM
TFA starts:
Morpheus 4 is Here and Legal
Morpheus 4 is here and legal - "the only American file-sharing software ruled legal by a U.S. federal court," its owner StreamCast Networks boasts.
But never says why and how, further more, how is it legal and supports FastTrack network at the same time?
Anyway, FastTrack isn't the network it used to be, the quality of its files is getting worse and worse, many times you'll download something to find out that it was something else but renamed, I've switched to eDonkey long time ago, much better file quality, yes it's slower, but that is just fine with me as long as the file quality is OK.
It's much harder to share fake files in eDonkey anyway, because of the file hashing and voting system.
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I'm sure he does. thats why he said 'who cares' if yu get a virus. its not gonna mes up your ext partitions. copy your data over from windows to linux when youre done, close vmware or whatever virtual software you're using and the spywares gone when you restart vmware + windows. if you want to keep whatever spywares on, just close the ports they use and it wont be able to leak stuff over the web.
Ok, I don't know anything about FastTrack etc, but would this means that we can now finally use the old KaZaa "kza" linux version app again to go and search the same files as Morpheus users? I really liked it back when the old Linux kza app allowed me to search and download files on the Kazaa network straight from the Linux console.. That'd be great if I could use it again... *sigh*
Some 70 to 80 per cent of Internet traffic is already P2P related. I wonder if a sizable portion of this is pure query traffic. I would assume that applications such this one that support multiple networks would be cause for increased query traffic all around. Therefore in my opinion it's hard to say if this development is a good thing at all.
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January 21 MUTE 0.2.1 was released.
http://mute-net.sourceforge.net/
Jan 7 slashdot posting about MUTE 0.2
Changes includes mention of a time out problem in win32 version fixed. I hope that also reduces the tendency for MUTE to abort downloads.
It may be a bit wobbley in these early stages, but it's anonymous and doesn't install spyware and crap. Worth supporting if only by running it so there are more active nodes.
The user comments at download.com have more mention of the apparent spyware - to quote one comment:'The claim by the program vendor that this software is free of Spyware is utterly ridiculus. I installed it on a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. It installed "Websavings by Ebates" without the option to opt out.' But then, maybe that's just intrusive adware and not technically spyware - not being familiar with this ebates doobrey I wouldn't know.
On the RIAA comment, the download.com blurb states that 'Morpheus protects your privacy with integrated access to public proxy networks.' But I'm a bit skeptical about that myself.
It WILL happen.
Just include a small fs driver in the virus...
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It's always been a mystory to me how to actually become a participant in the Nielsen ratings system. If 3rd generation p2p apps with spyware actually fed back information as to what I was downloading and watching... I would think that would be most spiffy, well except for that whole MPAA RIAA thing, but ignore that for a moment.
I for one would be perfectly willing to submit what I watched in the hopes that it would improve its ratings, so long as the process didn't lag down my system. I would also be perfectly willing to live with comercial content if it paid for the media.
There is no sanctuary. There is no sanctuary. SHUT UP! There is no shut up. There is no shut up.
I know that I don't have anything (at least shared) that the RIAA/MPAA would be interested in. All of the music that I listen to, have more or less been first introduced to through P2P downloads, have been bought - understandable, since I want to support the people that do good stuff. Most of the music is free, though (there's alot of the matter that can be put here, but I'm not going to make it more off-topic).
But to the point.
It seems like a good idea to get some competition out in the "mainstream" P2P-area. Competition's always been more or less to the positive end of the deal - BUT - where at least my principles collide, is with the tracking subject. I don't think that a normal user even knows over these features, even if it's mentioned someplace. Even less if it's in the EULA. And I don't think that Joe O'Normal would appreciate it either.
What I believe is the same thing as AC posted previously - a spy/ad/bloatware -free piece of software.
But we can all raise questions about that, again.
It wouldn't be either a) profitable, nor b) profitable. Mentioned twice, because first of things, the creators'll earn a "buck" with the advertising, and second, is with the info they gather. And I don't think they're gathering the information "just because it's fun and we can do it ^______^" - that info IS worth something.
Also, to refer to Dreadlord's post, there are alot better networks to go on.
Morpheus doesn't offer quality, either - who cares what the network carries, as long as they'll get their share of the profit.
THIS IS THE INTERNET. PLEASE PICK UP YOUR SERIOUS BUSINESS SUIT AT THE FRONT COUNTER.
Just face it... P2P isn't going away. P2P clients are like Whack-A-Mole: As soon as you smack (sue, crash, buy out, whatever) one, three more pop up.
So, RIAA, do like the government strategy : If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
I'm waiting for the RIAA 'official' P2P network that allows record labels to profit from the spyware ads on a user's machine. Not like I'd use it, but... it's a better (and more profitable) idea than suing 15-year-olds. And it makes the RIAA look like the good guy!
I wonder if there will be a Morpheus Lite, just like Kazaa Lite.
I agree with you that copyright infringement is a bad thing in general, etc etc -- but integrity checking, just like P2P software, is just a tool.
:-)
I only use P2P networking software to download Linux ISO CD images so that I don't put unneccecary strain on the FTP sites -- but I recently downloaded what was advertised as being Linux kernel 2.6.3 -- only to find it to be a 10 MB tarball full of the man from the late goatse.cx!
For this reason, I second the grandparent poster's assertion that integrity checking is required -- after all, who knows how many potential Linux users have been scared off because they can't figure out what weird and vaguely pornographic images are doing in a supposedly state-of-the-art operating system kernel...
Even a virtual virus could do you a lot harm. Running applications using virtual machines is getting quite casual nowdays with the dotnet-technology exploding.
> It really is time to just run *everything* inside a virtual machine. Got a virus? Who cares. It's just a virtual virus - all your data is backed up to a safe, real partition which you don't boot from.
What if you need to transfer your data one way or the nother over the internet?
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
The old kza will not work because it does not have the new encryption layers. Instead you can use giFT, giFT-FastTrack and giFTcurs.
It looks alot better than kza and it's guaranteed to be free of spyware (it's free software). It's all in Debian, except for gift-fasttrack which you can get here:
deb ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/gift-fasttrack unstable main
Well, at least not to the extent that Kazaa does. Originally Morpheus had no spyware whatsoever, but now you are forced to install 4 peices of software which are comparitively quite harmless. You just have to make sure that as soon as you install Morpheus, you uninstall these 4 programs. These programs do not have to be installed in order for Morpheus to run, unlike Kazaa which checks to see if they are installed. It may be annoying, but Kazaa is a hell of a lot worse, and theres nothing that will cause permanent damage.
I don't run Linux. I get paid to write Windows apps, I play and write DirectX stuff in my spare time, and when I'm not doing that I'm making music using Windows sequencers. Let me know when I can write and play decent games, use cubase and make a living from writing code under Linux and I'll take another look at tedious hard disk issues.
Dude, it's now 2004 not 1994. Where have you been all these years?
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I recently saw "Poisoned" being used on a Mac OSX box and it brought home to me the generally sucky nature of P2P on Windows I had been using KaZaA + DietK but switched to a recent build of KaZaAliteK++ which is much leaner and more friendly, but can't match Poisoned's multinetwork, spyware-and-adware-free smoothness Which P2P apps would /.ers recommend for the Windows platform?
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
Found me a sequencer to compete with Cubase, Logic, even Cakewalk? How many VST instruments can I play with? Soft synths? Reason?
Do you have a clue yet?
Let me know when I can write and play decent games, use cubase and make a living from writing code under Linux and I'll take another look at tedious hard disk issues.
Whoooooooooooooosh!
KFG
Actually, I'm making an OS with the base as a VM.
You can boot off a CD or DVD, then use your HD for data.
And it definately has anonymous browsing built in.
- Kaos games and encryption systems developer
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If you want to buy fresh tea, you can pay (triple the accepted market value) for it.
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Go back to England asshole (historical figure of speech - no offense intended to our 'Brothers across the Pond').
Discussion is already up on the MLdonkey Lists about possible infringement of the MLDonkey GPL License.
:-)
MLdonkey connects to all kinds of Networks, as Edonkey, Overnet , Bittorrent , Gnutella, Gnutella2 and Fasttrack and that seems where the Morpheus NEOWhateverTech (insert your favourite marketing-droid-speak here) code comes from.
BTW, apart from being GPL and from being written for linux originally, MLdonkey gives you a nifty web-interface which lets you search and download (at home) all sorts of stuff while hanging out at the office
i actually dled and installed it cause access to a bunch of nws sounded good and i figured i could just remove any spyware. plus here is an actual quote from the beginning of the licence agreement: "Morpheus values your anonymity and privacy. Morpheus does not contain or bundle malicious spyware." THE FUCK IT DOES. In addition to the My Search bar, Ebates, and BroadcastPC it admits to installing it has 3 or 4 other progs plus an ad window and popup ad thingy built into the gui. most of this shit runs in the backround and doesn't show up in the processes or services lists. thank god for adaware and spybot sd and fuck morheus. i'm sticking with Azureus (a BT client)
And Next on Slashdot, 3l3T3_h4k3r_20x6 releases his newest P2P app: Trinity.</kidding>
P2P was a neat concept way back when it was called a bulletin board. I guess it still is a neat concept, now that we have IM for sharing snapshots and web-camera streams. The truth, however, is that it isn't nearly as effective in pushing around bits as administering a cheap Linux box with 200GB of HD off a cable modem with a bunch of college frat buddies.
Moreover, it isn't nearly as good as having a private server with 500+GB of storage on a college LAN... I lost count after the 5th HD was added to my frat's file server. Dues in a frat house go to the 60"HDTV, game systems, parties (It's all about the Super Bowl), and the file server "as needed". As long as you meter/throttle the bandwidth so that the file sharing outbound network doesn't spike the University's network admin's attention (or better yet, have a student network admin in your frat), bandwidth consumption looks just like a massive Quake (or other FPS) game. Match that to the right port for Quake, etc, and even the best sysadmins are fooled.
Lest you think that this is too paranoid, I have a colleague who only traded audio or video on his private 10/100 ethernet switch which was behind a Linksys NAT/firewall from his dorm room's connection (he graduated recently). In these days of IPods and USB2 devices, a portable 200GB HD can be filled up pretty quick. They cost less than $200 for a USB2 200GB drive.
Another friend started using NetFlix recently, and copying the DVDs to DVD-Rs (they are even cheaper at $1 per 4.5GB in bulk).
A recent alum halfway around the world shares popular series like Farscape or Carnivale in DivX. One of our friends likes to encode the director's comments and such when he rips DVDs. Others go for the make-it-fit-in-700MB VCD. These are all private networks with strong encryption. Having a "P2P network" of geeky college aged friends with a central file store provides orders and orders of magnitude the bandwidth and security from being caught.
I'm not saying that I don't purchase media (now that I live on my own, I do have a cable subscription). But when I go back to the house on the weekend, there's a good selection of media.
Let me just say that DRM doesn't work, and neither does software activation. People don't rip crappy stuff. All my friends buy content (CDs, MP3s, DVDs, etc) when it suits them. Busting all my friends would be nice for the MPAA, RIAA, or BSA, but lets just face it, that's not going to happen, because this content is on private devices. The wire taps required to even discover the shared content aren't legal, and aren't practical (go ahead and try to wire tap my dorm's P2P WEP protected 802.11g WiFi network). The answer is to provide the content at high quality on demand over that broadband channel. TV does this, with the exception of the on-demand part. At 3AM, though, if I want to watch Farscape season 2 episode 4, that's what I want to watch with no commercials at DVD or DivX quality.
It's a good thing we live next to a guy with an open WiFi network. I might be afraid to post something like this from my home network logged in with my user name... You can trace this message off a few bounces into some poor guy's closet, and if you get the IP address, then it may or may not have been changed since his network seems to be going down regularly (see related thread on RIAA lawsuits).
DC is great for what it is - creating relatively small, closed communities. But if you are looking for something rare the huge p2p networks are just unbeatable with their gigantic amounts of shared data.
For some things, the fastrack network is still ok, but since Kazaa Lite killed themselves when they decicded to try to start charging, a new client is a good thing. The original Morpheus was the first p2p ap i used, and it was great back then. I'm kind of dissapointed now, because originally it was touted as a spy/adware free version or Kazaa. Just my thoughts, i think i'll stick with the last version of K++.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
I can't run a windows or a Linux GUI application, hence the question.
Can anyone suggest anything?
Many thanks
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Whine at the end of your post about how you're about to get flamed and how you're too noble to care.
Just for once I'd like to see one of these assclowns get what they're expecting.
Actually, no. This makes it even easier to prevent copyright infringement, its all about who controls the blacklists.
Actually, either - and you know perfectly well which way it will go. The amount of thievery that goes on and is actively encouraged makes me sick.
"Oh, but CDs/DVDs are so expensive, they're just a rip-off!" (not a quote from the parent comment)
Deal with it. Boycott or abstain, but overpricing doesn't give you any legal or moral right to steal.
Have a nice day.
Ydco co
Isn't funny how an application that distributes mp3 illegally is now breaking into other applications that do the same thing, which instead of doing only one illegal action it is now doing two
mldonkey does also support the fasttracker network
Now Morpheus is back on FastTrack
and
Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings.
Which is why I'm glad I still have a copy of KazaaLite. Sure, it's been shut down but you can still download the client via FileMirrors.com, and it doesn't have any of spyware/malware shit.
Morpheus was great before it got kicked off FastTrack, then it changed and sucked. Just because it's back on FastTrack doesn't mean it sucks any less.
Cruising the internet on my TI-99/4A @ a whopping 300 baud!
Er.....yes. Does that mean you've found me a development platform to match DirectX and pro quality audio software such as Cubase? Or are you just some Linux fanboy who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Don't answer that. Just give me a link to reviews of the above for Linux.
> Even a virtual virus could do you a lot harm.
No it can't. Remember - i'm booting into a clean install of windows and my apps. It's always the first session as far as the OS is concerned. Only the data - stored outside the session, such as on another pc attached to a local network - is shared between sessions. Zero virus risk.
The giFT Project has a FastTrack plugin, and it works really well. Plus it runs as a daemon, so you don't even have to be logged in. get giFTcurs or one of the other console-based clients, and you're ready to rock.
Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings.
When you translate this for a cellphone it would sound like this:
Device may record your shopping habits (GPS), deliver advertising (screensaver?), collect private information (record phone calls/destinations) or modify your system settings (Remove/block phone numbers/addresses/notes related to competitor?).
It's beyond me why anyone in their right mind would only consider using a software/device that shamelessly admits to do all these things. IMHO Legislation should take care of these gnats ASAP.
Not sure if the kza is able to connect - IIRC they changed the protocol.
Not sure how well giFT-FastTrack works...
I tell you what, why don't you write such an app with such a filter and see how long it takes for RIAA and the courts to come down on you like a ton of bricks for deliberately designing a tool that a) stops them from posting their own material, whilst, b) helping people infringe on their copyrights as easily as possible
It could also stop people renaming virsus/trojan's and putting it as legit software. (I.E a game patch).
...it's probably for the same reasons that I do: if you listen to the radio in the U.S., or if you are a band looking to have CDs distributed in the U.S., you are the defacto bitch of the RIAA.
Or are you telling me that the RIAA/major record labels/etc. do not do their best to restrict the music available to us in order to make money off of 'superpackaged' 'superbands'?
No one has yet managed to explain to me how CDs are 2x + more expensive than when they first came out despite the fact(s) that music production is cheaper, CD production is cheaper, and bands make almost no $$$ until they sell a few million alblums.
Are you saying that the RIAA and the major record labels are not guilty of 'extremely scummy' business practices? Are you an ex-songwriter who is now a music industry lawyer?
MLdonkey is open source and supports not only donkey but fasttrack, bittorent, soulseek, dc, gnutella, gnutella2, overnet, opennap networks too. u can use it with many guis and from console.
Why would anybody ever download something bundled with the crap referred to here, much less install it? Such "third-party applications" make the main product worse than useless.
My younger brother is an example, he has his own computer, I have explained to him (and installed for him Kazaalite and BT) about adware and spyware. But he doesn't really understand (Admittedly his is 10, but he has someone who knows what he is talking about helping him out.) and countinues to download stuff that has adware and spyware.
He doesn't care about spyware, and he only cares about adware when it gets in his way.
There are plently of people out there who have no idea what adware and spyware is. And often have it installed, think its annoying, but have no idea what it is, or how to remove it.
So they continue downloading things that have warning, totally oblivous to the implications.
I wasn't aware of anything you couldn't get over BitTorrent. Why would you mess with spyware-ridden software and risk getting subpoenaed by the RIAA for slow download rates and fake files?
Framed in a sheerly legal way, the above statement is correct. Framed in a moral/ethical way, the above statement has as many differing opinions as slavery and women's rights had in their heyday.
- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
nothing compares to poisoned for OSX. gnutella, fastrack, gift all in one search
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The war on terror is a war for peace
Eh, Morpheus?
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..."Morpheus Is Banned From Other P2P Networks"
Now this?
"Third-party applications bundled with this download may record your surfing habits, deliver advertising, collect private information, or modify your system settings."
When the average person ELECTS to use something even after reading this warning, you can be assured that the Internet has really and truly become McNet. (McDonald's reference for those of you unfamiliar with it) Hmmm... now that I think about it, it sounds like the Microsoft EULA, and plenty of people accept that every day. ;P
A sad day indeed. A sad, sad day...
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Of course if you were really serious about music, you'd be using PT on a Mac ;)
I don't think so..
porn maybe, and some of that is p2p..
do you have a basis for that claim?
I had installed it in my desktop two days ago and I can't say that I was impressed. ----I know that it is still beta----, put it has a lot of way to go! -It uses the mldonkey fasttrack plugin in order to connect to the kazaa network... Hmmm... doesn't this mean that they should provide source or something? Correct me if I am wrong -User interface is awful!! Big ugly graphic buttons and I have the impression that I didn't see any proper menu bar. Of course, there is a ad-box in an uncomortable position taking up a whole strip of the screen just in order to display an ad in the middle. At least kazaa ads to not take up a whole row (There are the play-stop-etc buttons next to them) - There is no way to see the peers you are connecting to (At least that was my impression after the 20min. period that it had the honour of being installed in my machine) -UI was slow on my P4 3ghz, 1gb ram (!) -It crashed.
MorpheusLite available in 3... 2... 1...
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In all this talk about a "open" protocol and client that doesn't have spyware, Im suprised that I never hear /.'ers talk about OpenFT/giFT client. I had been using it regularly but constant changes to the protocol and server updates made me look else where. Even though this was a problem I'm supprised there isn't a bigger community pushing giFT and there efforts to help make it a solid product. I noticed they have more clients and one that works with windows now (cross plat is good). Like I said its been awhile since I used it but at the time I loved it. After reading this post I revisted their site and it looks like they are making progress so Im assuming that they have a some what more stable protocol that doesn't get changed all the time. I think ./'ers should either take a look at it or give it another try like I AM!
Does it matter? All your going to do is make shit that nobody wants to hear.
I've been using it for years, in version 3.3 now, very stable. Downloads aren't always available (ie you might have to wait in line), but you can connect to OpenNet networks in addition to the WinMX default network.
The real reason I like it is because it's low-key, doesn't recieve any media attention (and hence RIAA/MPAA attention), no spy/ad/bloatware installed, very lightweight and fast. I highly recommend it.
Seems like, if you get a dummy file, you could just re-post it, adding to the name "(is a dummy file)". Wouldn't others then get the warning?
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I can't keep track of which P2P networks exist, how popular they are, what clients there are for each, and which features they support.
Would somebody care to enlighten me, or at least point to a good resource? (or both)
P.S. If there were no legal issues with any P2P content, wouldn't we have one (major) network, like we do with NNTP?
And my third party software (VMWare) inside which I run your little programs on a dedicated image with nothing on it but P2P programs doesn't really care. Spy away.
Nothing compares to iSwipe on OS X. Gnutella, Fastrack, Gift, Carracho, Hotline, OpenNap, OpenFT, eDonkey, and Bittorrent downloads in one search/app. Not to mention that it is the only OS X app I know of that will continue to search all servers until the song is found downloaded via its autosearch function.
Most people would find it to be a vast improvement without NSync/electronic repetetive and uninteresting garbage.
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
Most emulators provide some way of moving data back and forth from the emulated environment to the "real world" and back again. If you need to transfer something, just verify that it isn't a virus, move it to your production environment (via shared folders or, in VPC's case, simple drag-and-drop), and you're done. Happy sending!
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If you want "infiltration" of other P2P networks, what about Shareaza (Windows only).
It supports Gnutella 2 (& file swarming), Gnutella 1, EDonkey 2k networks, has BitTorrent support - plus it understands "magnet://" and "ed2k://" web links to P2P content (more about those standards here). It contains absolutely no spyware and is one of the best-written apps I've ever used.
For file sharing, you don't need anything else.
Why is FastTrack more popular than the Gnutella network? Gnutella is an open network, while the only way to get on the FastTrack network is by installing dog shit spyware programs. It is my understanding that they have the same overall decentralized infrastructure and are both equally effecient. Also, when the first batch of lawsuits from the RIAA came out, 99% of them were against FastTrack users. That could be reason enough to use Gnutella.
KCeasy available at www.kceasy.com also taps into the Kazaa network, is open source, and spyware free. Check it out.
Why the hell would I want to do all of that when my original post advocated using Windows?
KFG
to use giFT.
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Does the spyware associated with Morpheus, when installed in Windows, use these programs I have not intentionallly installed myself to go looking for a Linux partition?
They're getting to be clever bastards then, but even in that case it leaves them with trying to figure out what's important personal information and what isn't, since Linux systems aren't quite as standardized as a Windows box. For instance, my address book file is named Thomas.Selfridge. It would be a clever bit of software that figured that out, let alone that and the format I keep the file in as well.
I really don't see a future when spyware assumes a Linux partition must be around somewhere when it's installed in Windows.
KFG
Not being an authority on Morpheus, I can't really answer that question, but in the case of EXT2IFS and Samba, the data is mounted just like your every day drive C: or D:, so it's logical to assume that the spyware associated with Morpheus could read and in some cases write to them.
You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
How's that Kaos project coming along? Still no code I see, nor will there ever be I suspect. You might want to quit bragging about it until you have actually done something.
Is there documentation on accessing these networks? I would like to write my own client and be free from all the ****ing popups.
Where can I find out about whatever protocol I need to use?
Forget the Morpheus jokes. Bring on the Winter-Mute jokes!
(Neuromancer, you young whipper-snappers).
By Sharman and then the makers of the Matrix trilogy.
Morpheus is back on FastTrack, according to MP3NewsWire, tapping into it and the other leading networks through a beta of the NEOnet technology in the just-released version 4.
DOH!
LK
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Ever heard of hobbies? Some people prefer to do things that are productive, instead of installing the latest software to make themselves look "cool".
Now when you actually take advantage of linux, that's another story. Although there are too many wannabes out there who are addicted to linux simply because it's the "thing to do". They're no better than Windows users, and they're often even much worse. Especially when they're completely ignorant to the fact that Linux is actually a different operating system with different software, and it isn't a practical alternative in many situations.
Sure, it's an open source operating system. But what could be so good about it that a user would actually go through the trouble of learning how to program from scratch, then writing decent alternatives to several windows programs that they use on a regular basis. Not to mention the trouble of using a dual-boot system so that they could still get work done while they're in the development phase of their applications.
place a levy of like $5 on every computer sold and $10 on evey MP3 player sold, and pay the morons off. Period done final.
ahem.
For great justice take off every sig.
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DCC (Direct Client-to-Client) transferrs, expediated via IRC (and fly-by-night FTP servers advertised via 'bot's) was the way to go, back in the early-mid '90-s.
ahh...
One still remembers the ack: "... NO BOTS!!!/nNO BOTS!!!/nNO BOTS!!!"
'course, writin' those 'bot's (some of us called ours "borgs", since we could control them, remotely, via DDE) gave a bunch of script-kiddies access to the knowledge which has lead to all of these VBscript[ed] viruses. ("floodin'" someone offline (now, known as a [D]DOS attack, or a "booter") required the use of 'bot's to keep from "flooding" oneself offline, in the process
ahhh... progress.
I just tested this out. By the time I connected to 3-4 other nodes I was getting dozens of hits for Metallica, Led Zeppelin, etc. Yeah, it's a pretty bare-bones interface at this point, but since it is truly anonymous via encryption (and you can set the key bits quite high!) the link between your random 'virtual address' and your actual IP address will never be discoverable, not to mention the data packets themselves traveling over the net in encrypted form. Quick, someone develop a user-friendly GUI for this thing!
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Well, I just had a quick look on Freshmeat and found:
RoseGarden
Sweep
Ardour
Audacity
Protux
DAP
ReZound
GLAME
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