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I've looked everywhere but I cannot find anybody that sells a simple slim-DVD drive bracket.

http://www.idotpc.com/thestore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=74&idproduct=780

And there are many more turned up by google. Also look on the Mac sites (e.g. for putting two hard disks into a Mac Mini).

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I was recently looking for a low end 1U server, and the cheapest that I could find was at http://www.idotpc.com/ for ~$500. They specialize in mini-ITX systems so the systems don't draw too much power.

1. Are they hard to find, or do you not know where to look? Protip: amazon.com and newegg.com are not good sources.
2. I thought they were targeted at the embedded system market, and if so they're really not that overpriced.
3. Where did you get "no warranty?" All the ones I've seen come with a fairly standard 1-year warranty

Your inability to comprehend the concept of an embedded system that needs to run x86 software or use standard hardware does not affect the usefulness of this product in any way.

here's a few sites so far:

http://mini-itx.com/
http://damnsmallinux.org/store/
http://idotpc.com/
http://logicsupply.com/

so far, none of these sites(except maybe mini-itx.com) have a way to configure a complete system; mostly they don't stock all the necessary components.

oh, i forgot, "spcr.com" is actually http://silentpcreview.com/

I was seeking the same thing before. I did some research and found some really cool and small products. The problem of being cool is it carries a high price tag.

I endup ordered a mini-itx box from idotpc. No hassle, super fast delivery. Cost me around $350 for a 512MB ram 80GB HD system (w/0 CDROM). It ran a small website link above. The best part, my power bill dropped by $10 a month after I turned off the AMD box!!! Now I can brat about helping out in the California energy crisis.

Eventually something should make a webserver the size of iPod. How about $200 for a 40GB version?

Maybe I could find another quieter power supply?

Get access point, router and quota capability in one machine.

Start at IdotPC Which appears to be down now.

Add a wireless card, and install software from here:

Mesh AP site

Use Linux skills to setup whatever routing or traffic shaping you need.

VMware: $299
Mini-ITX machines: $209 each

Now, you only need one of the VMWare's but you might need two or more of the mini-ITX's. Also, that's the bare-bones mini-ITX; I listed it as old 4 to 10 GB harddrives are basically free around where I work, and I would install my OS to that harddrive in another machine, shove it in the bare bones mini-ITX, and not put in the CDROM or floppy.

Still, if someone offered me a choice between two of those mini-itx's and a full licensed version of VMWare in the package, I know what I'd do -- the mini-ITX.

Why not just a small, regular pc ? 12v DC is what comes into the case, allowing for easy battery power.

Perhaps still a little haughty over their win, Lindows decided to take on another of Microsoft's products. In late 2002, Microsoft put into market the Media Center Edition of its popular Windows XP operating system, complete with system requirements dictated to OEM system builders. On January 28, 2003, Lindows released its own Lindows Media Computer as a direct competitor.

After looking over all the media hype, I went searching for one of these little machines. Could the Lindows Media Computer really pull off meeting the new Windows machine in a pitched battle? It did boast Instant on DVD, CD, MP3, and VCD playback as one of the prime features. And, it was only a fraction of the price for a Windows Media Center system. At the time, only one vendor had them available, iDOTpc.com. After some communication, the folks at iDOTpc.com were kind enough to loan me one of the units to take for a spin.

This is it, right out of the box. One word came to my mind after seeing it next to my PogoLinux machine - tiny. I hoped there was some serious power packed in that little box or someone was going to be unhappy. With that in mind, on to the system specifications.

VIA C3 E-Series 933MHz Processor

VIA PLE133 + VT8235 Chipset Motherboard

128MB RAM PC133 and up to 1GB of PC100/PC133 SDRAM capacity

20GB ATA 100 5400RPM hard drive attached to one of 2 Dual-channel enhanced IDE Ports supporting UDMA 66/100/133

16X DVD Drive in the single full height 5.25" drive bay

4 USB 1.1 Ports (two in front, two in back), 1 Serial Port, 1 Parallel Port , and 1 PCI Slot

Integrated Trident 2X AGP with 2D/3D Graphics Acceleration

Integrated VIA AC97 Audio, 3 Audio Jacks: Line-in, Line-out, and Mic-in

Onboard VIA 10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet Controller

Mini-ITX Tower Case with 150W Power Supply

Dimension: 10.24"(D) x 5.31"(W) x 11.75"(H)

LindowsOS 3.0 MP3.com Edition with dedicated tech support

One Year Parts and Labor Warranty

FRONT

BACK

Some of you who are avid readers may recognize this box. It is none other than the FIC Falcon CR51 small form factor PC that was announced last October. However, it has been updated with the etDVD software from Elegent Technologies. The etDVD software is a boot time embedded software set that does all the magic of audio and video playback at boot time.

Brains! I need Brains!

Of course, I couldn't resist cracking the case. While there were some instructions included, I thought it would be more interesting to see how intuitive it would be to go without. Three thumb screws on the back side released the side panel which slid away. Inside, there isn't a whole lot to see. Yes. On the left you can just get a glimpse of the hard drive which is mounted to the floor of the chassis. Dead center is the DVD drive, and to the upper right is the teeny tiny power supply. Again, not too interesting. But, I discovered that one of the thumb screws actually held onto the DVD drive sled. After popping off the front face plate, I found the mate to the thumb screw. Removing this, I was able to get the DVD drive out of the way and have a better look at the rest of the insides.

As expected, I wasn't a good photographer. But let me assure you, everything was clean and small. You can make out the twin SDRAM sockets there at the top, the CPU and fan assembly just below that. Under the green heatsink resides the chipset, and over there on the right you can see the single PCI slot. Not a whole lot of room in there for anything else.

Fire It up!

Once I had it back together, I connected it to my spare monitor, keyboard,

Perhaps still a little haughty over their win, Lindows decided to take on another of Microsoft's products. In late 2002, Microsoft put into market the Media Center Edition of its popular Windows XP operating system, complete with system requirements dictated to OEM system builders. On January 28, 2003, Lindows released its own Lindows Media Computer as a direct competitor.

After looking over all the media hype, I went searching for one of these little machines. Could the Lindows Media Computer really pull off meeting the new Windows machine in a pitched battle? It did boast Instant on DVD, CD, MP3, and VCD playback as one of the prime features. And, it was only a fraction of the price for a Windows Media Center system. At the time, only one vendor had them available, iDOTpc.com. After some communication, the folks at iDOTpc.com were kind enough to loan me one of the units to take for a spin.

This is it, right out of the box. One word came to my mind after seeing it next to my PogoLinux machine - tiny. I hoped there was some serious power packed in that little box or someone was going to be unhappy. With that in mind, on to the system specifications.

VIA C3 E-Series 933MHz Processor

VIA PLE133 + VT8235 Chipset Motherboard

128MB RAM PC133 and up to 1GB of PC100/PC133 SDRAM capacity

20GB ATA 100 5400RPM hard drive attached to one of 2 Dual-channel enhanced IDE Ports supporting UDMA 66/100/133

16X DVD Drive in the single full height 5.25" drive bay

4 USB 1.1 Ports (two in front, two in back), 1 Serial Port, 1 Parallel Port , and 1 PCI Slot

Integrated Trident 2X AGP with 2D/3D Graphics Acceleration

Integrated VIA AC97 Audio, 3 Audio Jacks: Line-in, Line-out, and Mic-in

Onboard VIA 10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet Controller

Mini-ITX Tower Case with 150W Power Supply

Dimension: 10.24"(D) x 5.31"(W) x 11.75"(H)

LindowsOS 3.0 MP3.com Edition with dedicated tech support

One Year Parts and Labor Warranty

FRONT

BACK

Some of you who are avid readers may recognize this box. It is none other than the FIC Falcon CR51 small form factor PC that was announced last October. However, it has been updated with the etDVD software from Elegent Technologies. The etDVD software is a boot time embedded software set that does all the magic of audio and video playback at boot time.

Brains! I need Brains!

Of course, I couldn't resist cracking the case. While there were some instructions included, I thought it would be more interesting to see how intuitive it would be to go without. Three thumb screws on the back side released the side panel which slid away. Inside, there isn't a whole lot to see. Yes. On the left you can just get a glimpse of the hard drive which is mounted to the floor of the chassis. Dead center is the DVD drive, and to the upper right is the teeny tiny power supply. Again, not too interesting. But, I discovered that one of the thumb screws actually held onto the DVD drive sled. After popping off the front face plate, I found the mate to the thumb screw. Removing this, I was able to get the DVD drive out of the way and have a better look at the rest of the insides.

As expected, I wasn't a good photographer. But let me assure you, everything was clean and small. You can make out the twin SDRAM sockets there at the top, the CPU and fan assembly just below that. Under the green heatsink resides the chipset, and over there on the right you can see the single PCI slot. Not a whole lot of room in there for anything else.

Fire It up!

Once I had it back together, I connected it to my spare monitor, keyboard,

Perhaps still a little haughty over their win, Lindows decided to take on another of Microsoft's products. In late 2002, Microsoft put into market the Media Center Edition of its popular Windows XP operating system, complete with system requirements dictated to OEM system builders. On January 28, 2003, Lindows released its own Lindows Media Computer as a direct competitor.

After looking over all the media hype, I went searching for one of these little machines. Could the Lindows Media Computer really pull off meeting the new Windows machine in a pitched battle? It did boast Instant on DVD, CD, MP3, and VCD playback as one of the prime features. And, it was only a fraction of the price for a Windows Media Center system. At the time, only one vendor had them available, iDOTpc.com. After some communication, the folks at iDOTpc.com were kind enough to loan me one of the units to take for a spin.

This is it, right out of the box. One word came to my mind after seeing it next to my PogoLinux machine - tiny. I hoped there was some serious power packed in that little box or someone was going to be unhappy. With that in mind, on to the system specifications.

VIA C3 E-Series 933MHz Processor

VIA PLE133 + VT8235 Chipset Motherboard

128MB RAM PC133 and up to 1GB of PC100/PC133 SDRAM capacity

20GB ATA 100 5400RPM hard drive attached to one of 2 Dual-channel enhanced IDE Ports supporting UDMA 66/100/133

16X DVD Drive in the single full height 5.25" drive bay

4 USB 1.1 Ports (two in front, two in back), 1 Serial Port, 1 Parallel Port , and 1 PCI Slot

Integrated Trident 2X AGP with 2D/3D Graphics Acceleration

Integrated VIA AC97 Audio, 3 Audio Jacks: Line-in, Line-out, and Mic-in

Onboard VIA 10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet Controller

Mini-ITX Tower Case with 150W Power Supply

Dimension: 10.24"(D) x 5.31"(W) x 11.75"(H)

LindowsOS 3.0 MP3.com Edition with dedicated tech support

One Year Parts and Labor Warranty

FRONT

BACK

Some of you who are avid readers may recognize this box. It is none other than the FIC Falcon CR51 small form factor PC that was announced last October. However, it has been updated with the etDVD software from Elegent Technologies. The etDVD software is a boot time embedded software set that does all the magic of audio and video playback at boot time.

Brains! I need Brains!

Of course, I couldn't resist cracking the case. While there were some instructions included, I thought it would be more interesting to see how intuitive it would be to go without. Three thumb screws on the back side released the side panel which slid away. Inside, there isn't a whole lot to see. Yes. On the left you can just get a glimpse of the hard drive which is mounted to the floor of the chassis. Dead center is the DVD drive, and to the upper right is the teeny tiny power supply. Again, not too interesting. But, I discovered that one of the thumb screws actually held onto the DVD drive sled. After popping off the front face plate, I found the mate to the thumb screw. Removing this, I was able to get the DVD drive out of the way and have a better look at the rest of the insides.

As expected, I wasn't a good photographer. But let me assure you, everythin

Perhaps still a little haughty over their win, Lindows decided to take on another of Microsoft's products. In late 2002, Microsoft put into market the Media Center Edition of its popular Windows XP operating system, complete with system requirements dictated to OEM system builders. On January 28, 2003, Lindows released its own Lindows Media Computer as a direct competitor.

After looking over all the media hype, I went searching for one of these little machines. Could the Lindows Media Computer really pull off meeting the new Windows machine in a pitched battle? It did boast Instant on DVD, CD, MP3, and VCD playback as one of the prime features. And, it was only a fraction of the price for a Windows Media Center system. At the time, only one vendor had them available, iDOTpc.com. After some communication, the folks at iDOTpc.com were kind enough to loan me one of the units to take for a spin.

This is it, right out of the box. One word came to my mind after seeing it next to my PogoLinux machine - tiny. I hoped there was some serious power packed in that little box or someone was going to be unhappy. With that in mind, on to the system specifications.

VIA C3 E-Series 933MHz Processor

VIA PLE133 + VT8235 Chipset Motherboard

128MB RAM PC133 and up to 1GB of PC100/PC133 SDRAM capacity

20GB ATA 100 5400RPM hard drive attached to one of 2 Dual-channel enhanced IDE Ports supporting UDMA 66/100/133

16X DVD Drive in the single full height 5.25" drive bay

4 USB 1.1 Ports (two in front, two in back), 1 Serial Port, 1 Parallel Port , and 1 PCI Slot

Integrated Trident 2X AGP with 2D/3D Graphics Acceleration

Integrated VIA AC97 Audio, 3 Audio Jacks: Line-in, Line-out, and Mic-in

Onboard VIA 10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet Controller

Mini-ITX Tower Case with 150W Power Supply

Dimension: 10.24"(D) x 5.31"(W) x 11.75"(H)

LindowsOS 3.0 MP3.com Edition with dedicated tech support

One Year Parts and Labor Warranty

FRONT

BACK

Some of you who are avid readers may recognize this box. It is none other than the FIC Falcon CR51 small form factor PC that was announced last October. However, it has been updated with the etDVD software from Elegent Technologies. The etDVD software is a boot time embedded software set that does all the magic of audio and video playback at boot time.

Brains! I need Brains!

Of course, I couldn't resist cracking the case. While there were some instructions included, I thought it would be more interesting to see how intuitive it would be to go without. Three thumb screws on the back side released the side panel which slid away. Inside, there isn't a whole lot to see. Yes. On the left you can just get a glimpse of the hard drive which is mounted to the floor of the chassis. Dead center is the DVD drive, and to the upper right is the teeny tiny power supply. Again, not too interesting. But, I discovered that one of the thumb screws actually held onto the DVD drive sled. After popping off the front face plate, I found the mate to the thumb screw. Removing this, I was able to get the DVD drive out of the way and have a better look at the rest of the insides.

As expected, I wasn't a good photographer. But let me assure you, everythin