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GCCI'm with michael on this one. There are a lot of free compilers out there now, including Microsoft VC++ and Borland
Gcc is good, open, and could use some work, so please think about helping out. My favorite is MinGW which is a really nice and decently maintained Win32 version of gcc and binutils. MinGW also distributes MSYS which is a bash shell and other gnu utilities that make a windows box capable of running a Linux configure script. This allows much easier porting of GNU applications to windows and vice versa. There are several GUI compilers based on MinGW too, see the web page FAQ. A nice GUI GCC based compiler for Win32 is Bloodshed Dev-C++, which I've used.
Cygwin is good too but I prefer MinGW (obviously).
So think about helping out, our tools will only get better if folks work on them.
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Re:C# & .NET are not new or innovative
I think you are thinking of Apple. As long as they haven sold it, it was reported here, but also including as a part of the same deal was the sharing of technology. You will notice Microsoft paid Borland (then called Inprise) $100 Million for "the rights to use Inprise-patented technology in Microsoft products and to settle a number of long-standing patent and technology licensing issues" (this is from the actual press release. I wouldn't be surprised if compiling to a common language was one of the things they paid the rights to use.
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Delphi or Kylix
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Delphi or Kylix
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How to implement a basic Doc Mngt Sys for any OS
A product from Borland call JDataStore, is a very high performance pure Java database system which has the particularity (in addtion to being a JDBC/SQL compliant DB) to also being able to store documents of any type directly into a built-in file system.
The examples that come with the distribution actually show you how to store and load files from it. You can then use an upload Servlet, and coouple that with a few JSP (Java Server Pages), and voila you got something which works anywhere.
Note that you will still need to program a way to keep older versions of documents, and a way to implement a locking mechanism for people to check out and check in files. I'm sure any competent programmer can accomplish all this in about a 2 weeks of work, and add another week for fine tuning and testing.
Note however that I assume that (1) storage space is not an issue, considering how cheap hard drives are these days, and (2) that you will not write any sophisticated mechanisms to store only the changes to a document, but rather that you will save ALL versions of all the documents, along with the choice to erase older versions (either with a fixed ptogramatically-fixed time variable, a user command, or both).
Please spare all the flames please, I KNOW there are commecial solutions, I KNOW this is a very simple solution, I'm JUST offering ONE possible solution to the poster's problem. Please spare all the "you can do this better with PHP or ASP, etc". Use the tools you want.
Note that I have already implemented systems which can do all this as outlined above, just not for the same problem domain, so I know what I'm talking about.
I hope this helps.
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Alternative open source DBs: SAP DB and InterBaseHave a look at SAP DB. I quote:
SAP DB is an open, SQL-based, relational database management system that provides high availability and performance scaling from small to very large implementations. In addition, SAP DB goes beyond relational database technology by offering object orientation as well as support for managing unstructured data. It supports open standards including SQL, JDBC and ODBC; access from Perl and Python; and HTTP-based services with HTML or XML content. SAP DB is platform independent, so users can deploy it for a wide array of projects. Since 1994, the SAP e-Business Solution is available on SAP DB technology. Today SAP DB is being used by nearly 800 customers. On October 5, 2000, at Linux World SAP DB was announced to be made available as Open Source software using the GNU General Public License for the database kernel and the GNU Lesser General Public License for clients and programming interfaces.
Take a look at InterBase from Borland/Inprise as well. I quote from the product overview :
Versioning Architecture for ultimate concurrency readers never block writers.
Active database, including the most full featured trigger and stored procedure implementation.
Event Alerters - React to database changes without polling. Exceptional ANSI SQL-92 compliance and full UNICODE support.
Rich data types - Blobs, multi-dimension-al arrays.
InterClient - all-Java JDBC driver for low maintenance.
Designed for business critical distributed database environments, InterBase provides power and flexibility for Internet, mobile, and embedded database applications.
Scalable from Windows 95/98, Linux, HP/UX, Solaris, and other UNIX systems.
INTERBASE SPECIFCATIONSIntegrity
- Declarative Primary Key
- Declarative Foreign Key
- Cascade Declarative Referential Integrity
- Domain and column-level Check constraints
- Trigger procedures with the following features:
- Unlimited triggers per record change
- Invoked before or after record insertion, deletion, or update
- Multiple triggers per action, optionally ordered.
- Forward-chaining (cascading triggers)
- Optimistic locking
- Data isolation levels: read consistency, read committed, and cursor stability
- Shared, and protected lock types for explicit table-level locking
- Online backups
- Immediate recovery after failure
- Simultaneously connected databases -limited only by hardware
- Automatic distributed transaction processing via two-phase commit
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Alternative open source DBs: SAP DB and InterBaseHave a look at SAP DB. I quote:
SAP DB is an open, SQL-based, relational database management system that provides high availability and performance scaling from small to very large implementations. In addition, SAP DB goes beyond relational database technology by offering object orientation as well as support for managing unstructured data. It supports open standards including SQL, JDBC and ODBC; access from Perl and Python; and HTTP-based services with HTML or XML content. SAP DB is platform independent, so users can deploy it for a wide array of projects. Since 1994, the SAP e-Business Solution is available on SAP DB technology. Today SAP DB is being used by nearly 800 customers. On October 5, 2000, at Linux World SAP DB was announced to be made available as Open Source software using the GNU General Public License for the database kernel and the GNU Lesser General Public License for clients and programming interfaces.
Take a look at InterBase from Borland/Inprise as well. I quote from the product overview :
Versioning Architecture for ultimate concurrency readers never block writers.
Active database, including the most full featured trigger and stored procedure implementation.
Event Alerters - React to database changes without polling. Exceptional ANSI SQL-92 compliance and full UNICODE support.
Rich data types - Blobs, multi-dimension-al arrays.
InterClient - all-Java JDBC driver for low maintenance.
Designed for business critical distributed database environments, InterBase provides power and flexibility for Internet, mobile, and embedded database applications.
Scalable from Windows 95/98, Linux, HP/UX, Solaris, and other UNIX systems.
INTERBASE SPECIFCATIONSIntegrity
- Declarative Primary Key
- Declarative Foreign Key
- Cascade Declarative Referential Integrity
- Domain and column-level Check constraints
- Trigger procedures with the following features:
- Unlimited triggers per record change
- Invoked before or after record insertion, deletion, or update
- Multiple triggers per action, optionally ordered.
- Forward-chaining (cascading triggers)
- Optimistic locking
- Data isolation levels: read consistency, read committed, and cursor stability
- Shared, and protected lock types for explicit table-level locking
- Online backups
- Immediate recovery after failure
- Simultaneously connected databases -limited only by hardware
- Automatic distributed transaction processing via two-phase commit
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Security patches
You can get the security patches from the sourceforge site. What can I say? I'm shocked. Did anyone read the source? or do we just want these things open source for political reasons these days?
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Re:Wonder what it means for KylixKylix is still moving forward -- Corel's merger with Borland, err, Inprise, err Borland never happened, mostly because Corel didn't have the cash.
http://www.inprise.com/kylix/
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What is Kylix?Disclaimer: Like DaBudda, I work for Borland.
Secondary disclaimer: I can't prove I work for Borland, but in a couple days it will be a moot point.
Two issues at hand: (a) What's is Kylix? (b) Will Kylix be Open Source? I can't answer these in detail, because I actually take my nondisclosure agreement seriously, even a few days before the info goes public. (For me, it's not so much a legal issue as an ethical issue.) But I think I can clear a few things up.
What is Kylix? The answer to that keeps changing. When I was hired (early this year), there was no product called Kylix, and no plans for one. What we had "Project Kylix" (complete with T shirt), a scheme to extend the Delphi/C++Builder product line into the Linux world. This project went through many changes, but at that time, the basic idea was to port various development apps, including the IDE and compiler, to Linux. A cross platform version of the VCL (Visual Component Library; the cross platform version is now called CLX) would also be written. Existing software would be extended to support CLX (in addition to the VCL), but the new Linux software would support CLX only.
Sidebar: this strategy is meant to leverage a little known fact: there is a lot of Delphi and C++Builder code out there. (This is no suprise to thousands of programmers who use these products every day. But the rest of the world -- including me, before I came here -- is under the delusion the Delphi and C++Builder are more or less dead. Running the VCL Scanner will demonstrate how untrue this is.) CLX is designed to minimize the cost of modifying Windows-VCL software so that it becomes Windows-Linux-CLX software.
Now, I'm not giving anything away when I disclose that there has been a slight change in plans. There will actually be a product called Kylix. (All the name recognition was too good to pass up.) I'm gonna honor my NDA and withhold the specifics of this product. But any intelligent person should be able to figure out what "Kylix" will be. The rest of you will know later this week.
Now, the open source issue. I can't disclose specifics, but Borland's strategy should be obvious. On the one hand, we need to contribute to the Free (RMS "Free", not Budweiser "Free") software pool -- this is enlightened self-interest. On the other hand, we don't sell hardware, and our revenues from consulting are limited. If we can't keep some of our source private, we have no income. Again, an intelligent person should be able to figure out what we plan to give away.
One complication is that we've unwittingly involved ourselves in the KDE versus GNOME wars. Kylix was never conceived as a desktop-specific product. Unfortunately, the decision to base CLX on Qt was interpreted in some quarters as an alignment with the KDE camp. (Possibly the abortive merger with Corel, which is very KDE-involved, also contributed.) With Sun et al. leaping on the GNOME bandwagon, this Looks Bad. So upper management is making the most of Kylix's interoperability with GNOME, and our possible plans to provide future GNOME support. (And, of course, minimizing future plans for KDE support!) Which, together with our limited open-sourcing, seems to have been lept upon and overblown by ZDNet.
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in other OT news
Jbuilder 4 Foundation has recently been released, and can be downloaded here:
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I don't need no stinkin' patent!That sounds very much like Entera. Given the time frame (OEC was founded in 93), it's not impossible that one of the patents behind Entera is the very one we're conspiring to quash!
In any case, this is really a silly discussion. Unless Winslett is prepared to entertain/inform us(how about an explanation of how you can patent an algorithm?) she has no business wasting our time.
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Re:Nice License choice
It would really be nice to see them open up some of their other great products, such as their compilers and IDE's. It would be nice to see them open these up, or at least port them to Linux
Ever heard of JBuilder or Kylix?
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Honest Question: Why Not Link To Actual Releases?
(Instead of)/(In addition to) just linking to Yahoo's condensed summaries -- how hard can it be for the editors to provide links to the original release from Corel or the even more exciting release from Inprise regarding the exchange ratio involved in the proposed merger
... ?Flamebait or an honest plea -- you decide.
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Good riddanceInprise doesn't need them. They have the perfect Windows-killer already. With Star Office being free and already the best tool we have for converting Office documents, Corel doesn't have much to offer the Linux community.
A really good RAD tool with integrated database tools such as kylix would go a long way to make Linux be used more in the corporate world. Its no coincidence that Windows didn't really take off until there was Visual Basic to ease application development.
With a good RAD tool available, applications for Linux will skyrocket. The more applications there are the more people will switch to Linux. When more companies start using Linux, people will realize they don't necessarily need Windows and Office to do their day to day tasks. This is a Good Thing(tm).
Hopefully when Inprise and Trolltech release kylix they will do the smart(Windows-killing) thing and release it under the GPL.
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Re:Who here is using KDevelop at work for producti> I don't have a big problem with it as long as I can still choose to use emacs/gcc/gmake/bash/grep,
So, why flame KDevelop ? It won't prevent you to work as you like, and it will surely won't prevent you from using gcc/gmake/bash/grep 'cause it use it also. And autoconf/automake, SGMLtools, etc also.
KDevelop is a front-end to all these unix tools, and manage all scriptable-task itself. 'Twas intented to allow a coder to code without messing with details of project management (Makefiles, configure scripts, CVS, etc) and use all traditionnal Unix-tools transparently. Except Emacs, but there are peoples trying to include it as the standard editor.There is, however, an IDE using Qt and which will bring its own tools. It's codenamed Kylix and it's not from KDE-folks but from Corel-Inprise/Borland.
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borland C++ 5.5 compilerBorland/Inprise has also released it's Borland C++ Compiler 5.5 for free. Note, this is not Borland C++Builder, which I gather has all the extra bells and whistles. It's just the basic C/C++ library, STL and compiler. No IDE, no Windows MFC
From the website,
The Borland C++ Compiler 5.5 (BCC) is the core of Inprise's C++ compiler technology. Borland C++ Compiler 5.5 is a blazingly fast 32-bit optimizing compiler. It includes the latest ANSI/ISO C++ compliance including the RTL, the STL framework and C++ template support. And now, Borland C++ Compiler 5.5 is openly available for free download!
Haven't gotten around to using it yet, but for people who have a hard time replicating the Unixish environment that the Cygwin compiler wants, it might be good.
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What Kylix is...
From this page cached on Google:
Project Kylix is currently planned to be a Linux component based development environment for two-way visual development of graphical user interface (GUI), Internet, database, and server applications. Plans are for Project Kylix to be powered by a new high-speed native C/C++/Delphi compiler for Linux and will implement a Linux version of the Borland VCL (Visual Component Library) architecture. The Borland VCL for Linux will be designed to radically speed native Linux application development and simplify the porting of Delphi and C++Builder applications between Windows and Linux.
The Project Kylix design was heavily influenced by the results from the Borland Linux Developer Survey, conducted in July 1999, which generated over 24,000 unique survey submissions. The results of the survey indicate that developers are seeking RAD, database enablement, and GUI design - all strong evidence that Linux is ready for mainstream professional application development. The Project Kylix development environment is planned to support major Linux distributions including Red Hat Linux and the forthcoming Corel LINUX. -
InterBase Information6.0 Beta Newsgroups
KnowledgeBase
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Links
Partners
Examples
ContributingInprise Offers InterBase 6.0 - Linux for Public Field Test
InterBase 6.0 for Linux now available for download on InterBase web site. (www.interbase.com)
SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif., March 8th, 2000 -- Inprise Corporation (Nasdaq: INPR) today announced a public field test of InterBase 6.0 for the Linux operating system now available as a download from the InterBase web site, http://www.interbase.com/open/downloads/linux60be
t a.htmlTwo years have gone by since InterBase 4.0 was originally released as freeware for Linux. Following on from recent announcements regarding the open-sourcing of InterBase 6.0, the new version of its cross-platform relational database - Interbase would like all interested parties to freely download and test this latest version of InterBase for Linux. Any feedback on this new version can be sent to ib_support@inprise.com or alternatively users are encouraged to participate in the field test newsgroups
Other field test versions of InterBase 6.0 for Windows, Solaris and CPM will be made publicly available shortly.
About InterBase 6
InterBase 6.0 is a powerful, high-performance cross-platform relational database designed for business-critical, mobile computing and Internet-based applications on Linux, Windows NT, Solaris, and other UNIX operating systems. Since 1985, InterBase has provided technologically superior relational database solutions to meet the business-critical database needs of numerous companies such as Nokia, Ericsson, MCI, Northern Telecom, Bear Stearns, the Money Store, the US Army, NASA, and Rob Schieck's mers.com web site. Through its ease of use, maintainability, simplified deployment and small footprint, InterBase has become the preferred embedded database solution.The Linux and Inprise development community tells us that this release of InterBase is one of the best things that has happened to them this week. There is no doubt that InterBase and Linux are a perfect fit, because both are known for stability and reliability combined with absolute zero cost of ownership," said Markus Kemper, Director of the Mustang 5.0 Ownership Club at InterBase.
About Inprise/Borland
Inprise Corporation is a leading provider of Internet-enabling software and services that reduce the complexity of application development for corporations and individual programmers. Inprise delivers integrated, scalable and secure solutions distinguished for their ease of use, performance and productivity. Committed to open platforms, Inprise continues its tradition of service and support for millions of software developers around the world through its online developer community and E-commerce site http://community.borland.com providing a range of technical information, value-added services and third-party products. Founded in 1983, Inprise is headquartered in Scotts Valley, California, with operations worldwide.
InterBase: the OPEN source database (minus the source)
Spamming for karma. If AC's do it, then karma whores cant. penix penix penix. -
Check the Help Wanted adds!Senior R&D Engineer
Senior engineering position responsible for research and development of the Delphi compiler for Linux. Will work with the entire team to to deliver future versions of Delphi for Windows and Linux.
Would've posted earlier but wanted to apply first
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Direct Link to download
I took me like a fscking half hour to register as for some reason its slow as hell loading the registration forms. So heres some more free beer a direct link to the download.
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Direct Download URLThe URL for direct download is
ftp://ftpd.inp rise.com/download/bcppbuilder/FreeCommandLineTool
just in case you haven't the time to register. As a side note, I'd like to say that Slashdot's attitude is becoming more and more of a problem. Don't you think you should be praising companies when they release free software and not complaining because they won't give you the source code too?s .exe
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Re:Borland C++, C++Builder, I'm confused
BC++ 5.02 is just a compiler program - it doesn't include any of the typical accountrements of an IDE. C++ Builder includes a complete IDE (though not a terribly good one),a debugger, support (I think) for Borland's OWL framework, and the VCL library of controls. Check Borland's list of features for the two for more info.
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Free Borland C++ 5.5 is WORTHLESS
Before everyone gets excited about this "free" compiler, allow me to point out to everyone that it is ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS. Want to know why? Because it doesn't include a debugger, that's why. Yep, that's right -- no debugger. None at all. NO WAY to DEBUG anything.
Complain to the VP of Developer Relations at Borland about this. His e-mail is davidi@inprise.com. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
/. Effect with GPL everywhere will cause them to really think hard. -
Various Contacts...
Here are some contacts, I encourge a nice letter, and possible a copy of the GPL.
Sales Reps:
mailto:bkelly@borland.com
mailto:swhite@borland.com
mailto:hredding@borland.com
mailto:mbell@borland.com
mailto:dbush@borland.com
mailto:jlweil@inprise.com
Other Contacts:
mailto:webmanager@inprise.com
mailto:consulting@inprise.com
mailto:customer-service@inprise.com
mailto:ftpadm@inprise.com
mailto:resume@inprise.com
mailto:listserv@inprise.com
mailto:newsgroup-admin@borland.com
mailto:ecommerce@inprise.com
mailto:inprise-training@inprise.com
mailto:y2k@inprise.com
mailto:ydavis@inprise.com
Be nice, a good letter will give you extra Karma points, and send a copy of the GPL in a second email.
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Some of the "Monumental Failure" theory can't holdThe notion that Mozilla is a massive waste of "open source resources" is decidedly silly; consider:
What other open source project would you expect Netscape Communications Corp (or AOL) to be involved with?
The fact that it has taken a whopping long time for the (marginally usable) M10 release to arrive is not a clear example of failure; the project has had to labour under several significant constraints:
- In order to release Mozilla as Open Source(tm), Netscape had to tear out a whole lot of code that they didn't own. Java, VisiBroker, RSA stuff, ObjectStore, TrueDoc, Full Circle Talkback, Inso Proofreader, and others.
This left gaping holes in the source code tree, things that had to be reimplemented.
- Mozilla has essentially been rearchitected.
What with the above gaping holes, and other things that had grown into being ill-designed, it made huge sense to rebuild a whole lot of the functionality from scratch.
If a version that is of "production quality" is released in the next 4 months, which is not inconceivable, that essentially means that Mozilla has been recreated in two years, which is certainly not a monumental failure.
- In order to release Mozilla as Open Source(tm), Netscape had to tear out a whole lot of code that they didn't own. Java, VisiBroker, RSA stuff, ObjectStore, TrueDoc, Full Circle Talkback, Inso Proofreader, and others.
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Lineo?Lineo? Yuk... That's about as bad as Borland renaming itself Inprise. Why mess with a good thing?
Alex Bischoff
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Re:OT: Borland developer survey
Note: That's the wrong URL. The real one is:
http://ww5.inprise.com/scripts/disurvey.exe/gens urvey?surveyid=1
or, you can just click Here.
--Rob
Comics:
Sluggy.com - It rocks my nads. -
Let's Slashdot Borland About This
let's all email borland asking for a delphi port to linux.
if borland ported delphi to linux, they'd do damned well with it. they're more credible than microsoft, and the delphi class library (VCL) is abstract enough to allow the interfaces to be kept largely intact. (forget it with MFC, just forget it; no abstraction at all). while microsoft is refusing to port VB in the (vain and silly) hope of damaging linux, borland will be politely eating their lunch. delphi is a high-profile and really damned good tool; linux and delphi have a lot to gain from each other. delphi has trailed behind VB in windows simply because they were so late to market compared to VB. here they can turn the tables beautifully.
or they could just do PythonBuilder or something wacky like that -- but i think that they'd suck in a lot more windows converts by porting delphi as-is. this would be a major, major, beautiful coup for linux. they'd probably never open-source it, but that's just tough. i'd rather see people using proprietary crap on linux than using the same proprietary crap on windows.
I just kicked around their web site for a while, and this is the most likely-looking address i found:
customer-service@inprise.com
The artist formerly known as borland, now Inprise
search for "linux" on this page; some borland dude mutters about linux.
some random page on borland's site
anybody wanna talka me about this please do, but flames will be ignored.
john a. mcnamara
johnmcn@ix.netcom.com
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Let's Slashdot Borland About This
let's all email borland asking for a delphi port to linux.
if borland ported delphi to linux, they'd do damned well with it. they're more credible than microsoft, and the delphi class library (VCL) is abstract enough to allow the interfaces to be kept largely intact. (forget it with MFC, just forget it; no abstraction at all). while microsoft is refusing to port VB in the (vain and silly) hope of damaging linux, borland will be politely eating their lunch. delphi is a high-profile and really damned good tool; linux and delphi have a lot to gain from each other. delphi has trailed behind VB in windows simply because they were so late to market compared to VB. here they can turn the tables beautifully.
or they could just do PythonBuilder or something wacky like that -- but i think that they'd suck in a lot more windows converts by porting delphi as-is. this would be a major, major, beautiful coup for linux. they'd probably never open-source it, but that's just tough. i'd rather see people using proprietary crap on linux than using the same proprietary crap on windows.
I just kicked around their web site for a while, and this is the most likely-looking address i found:
customer-service@inprise.com
The artist formerly known as borland, now Inprise
search for "linux" on this page; some borland dude mutters about linux.
some random page on borland's site
anybody wanna talka me about this please do, but flames will be ignored.
john a. mcnamara
johnmcn@ix.netcom.com