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Re:Better Idea
Already done: http://www.intellectualventure... http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-...
It's only "done" when you can get on Amazon or got to Wal-mart and buy one.
That shit has been vaporware for over 10 years. Still nothing, nada, nobody can get one, even if they would spend $500 for one.
So no, not "done". Vaporware.
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Re:only?
Photonic fences as used against mosquyito could be adapted for enforcing drone-less zones.
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Re:Where is my mosquito laser?
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Re:Climate models
Which medical models are you referring to? I know of no computer model designed to predict how long a person will live. Or did you just get confused by the meaning of the word model?
First of all, "computer" is extraneous to modeling. Newton was modeling objects in motion as point masses quite a while back.
Second of all, all science is modeling.
Third of all, what world do you occupy? Or are you posting from the past? Start here: http://www.lshtm.ac.uk/study/c... and work your way down. http://dmm.biologists.org/ http://idmod.org/ http://www.sciencedirect.com/s... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm... http://www.intellectualventure... and keep going. -
Mosquito laser
So can I get a laser mosquito blaster [intellectualventures.com] in time for my next party?
I logged in for the first time in ages specifically to upvote this, but I don't have any points.
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Mosquito laser
So can I get a laser mosquito blaster in time for my next party?
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reason it was rejected raises some new questions
The main reason it was rejected appears to be that its claims were anticipated by patent 7,724,242. But now that patent still covers a pretty wide range of the same things, and is still valid (at least so far).
And if we look at who filed that patent, it's two people whose names appear at the list of Senior Inventors of everyone's favorite litigious organization that doesn't technically hold patents itself...
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Bill Gates is being abusive, again."... large scale larceny..."
That larceny is being done by Bill Gates, along with his partner, Nathan Myhrvold. Bill Gates owns stock in Intellectual Ventures. He is a somewhat silent partner.
Bill Gates and Nathan Myhrvold wrote a really, really poor book together, The Road Ahead. People bought the book thinking it would have useful information. But it seems as though several editors must have examined the book very carefully to make sure it had nothing of value. In my opinion, it was fraud, a way of stealing from people who bought the book because they assumed they would learn something.
Quote from the Wikipedia page:The New York Times review called the book "bland and tepid" and reading "as if it had been vetted by a committee of Microsoft executives"; it is "little more than a positioning document, sold in book form with accompanying CD-ROM and designed mainly to advance the interests of the Microsoft Corporation."
It appears to me that Bill Gates is using "philanthropy" to find ways to make more money. He discovers difficulties people have, asks for ideas for technology to fix those difficulties, and then turns those ideas into money-making projects for Intellectual Ventures.
To read more about how they use business to do what many regard as evil, read the August 21, 2012 article, Inside Intellectual Ventures, the most hated company in tech. -
That Is the Most Laughable Defense of IV Yet!
everyone has design patents and patents rectangles and other shapes. check the patent office.
You're saying that everyone has the same design patents? I was under the impression that rounded corners on icons belonged solely to Apple? Or are you saying I can get my own patent for rounded squares that open up an application on a mobile device? I mean wasn't the whole logic in the Samsung Galaxy case about their devices being black with rounded corners and Apple's devices being black with rounded corners? I mean
... how does Samsung get their own design patent for that since you claim "everyone" has them?IV is just a mutual fund and all the big tech companies like apple, google, cisco and others invest in their patent pools
I don't think you know what a mutual fund is. I don't think IV pays back to Apple, Google, Cisco, et al like they would if they were a mutual fund. And IV claims to be "helping the small guys" manage patent portfolios (although I can't find an example of this either). Furthermore, I found it really funny that you claim these large companies are their customers. Do you have any evidence of this? Because when This American Life did a story on them, they were having a hard time finding these imaginary revenue streams you speak of. Oh, you claim they have nothing to do with patent wars? Gee, it's super odd that on IV's site they have an article explaining how patent wars are a natural and necessary business expense and they've been going on since the beginning of time.
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Re:Or...
Lasers that can identify and vaporize female mosquitos, (because only females bite humans). Is that good, or God's work?
http://intellectualventures.com/OurInventions/PhotonicFence.aspx
You be the judge, but how do I find one of these on amazon.com for overnight delivery? This looks like some awesome redneck fun.
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Re:Who picks these "standards" anyway?
One of the biggest patent trolls in the world is acknowledged to be Intellectual Ventures. And they do original research of their own too.
http://www.intellectualventures.com/Home.aspx
Doing original research isn't sufficient to escape being considered a patent troll.
As far as income, IV gets a lot from the companies that have bought a stake in their operations. They aren't solely funded by patent income either.
Now CSIRO may be a research organization. But this business model of turning government funding into lawsuits around the world is patent trolling. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's the way it is.
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I Have A Better Idea: +4, Ingenious
steal the design from this Patent Troll.
Yours In Beijing,
Kilgore T. -
Define "effort to use the patent"
If a company is actively licensing their patent portfolio and allowing them to be used by other companies, they're using the patents. If, OTOH, they're just sitting on their patents and waiting for a chance to sue somebody for infringement (i.e., acting like a patent troll) they're not making use of the patents
That doesn't distinguish much. Alleged patent trolls such as Intellectual Ventures already list inventions that they appear to offer for licensing. How would you define "effort to use the patent either directly or by licensing" to exclude this?
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Frickin' Patented
Well sure, this is clever and all... but I still prefer the shock-and-awe approach to mosquito control:
http://www.ted.com/talks/nathan_myhrvold_could_this_laser_zap_malaria.html
You can just f-fwd to the 12m mark for the craziness.
Dear sir or madam, could you tell me how much it costs to license that invention from Intellectual Ventures, the company of former Microsoft bigwigs? Why is no one using this technology? Could it be
... cost of licensing? -
Re:So, the system works?
Capitalism is about generating the highest revenue at the lowest cost. It has absolutely jack sh*t to do with "best value." The notion of value in a capitalist society is a delusive manufacture of the the marketing department designed to part customers and their money while providing little if anything of true worth in return. The penultimate expression of this can be seen in patent holding corporations such as Intellectual Ventures whom extract money from you for a promise not to sue you.
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Re:microsoft peculiarity?
Perhaps he was only a CTO, but hasn't this already happened? http://www.intellectualventures.com/WhoWeAre/Bio/Nathan_Myhrvold.aspx
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Oh No, They Do Much More Than That!
They only license their patent portfolio.
Oh, how I wish that was all that they did. As you can see from their site:
Intellectual Ventures has been actively inventing since August 2003. The company has filed thousands of patent applications in more than 50 technology areas and has thousands of ideas under consideration.
Since 2003 they have been gumming up the USPTO as well. Note that they've filed thousands of patent applications. No mention of how many were issued. It's entirely possible that they were issued to the actual people working at IV and not to IV but a search shows nine patents issued to IV on the USPTO.
So remember the TED Laser Mosquito/Malaria technology? That's just a patent waiting to be issued then licensed but until then I wouldn't recommend building any. -
Oh No, They Do Much More Than That!
They only license their patent portfolio.
Oh, how I wish that was all that they did. As you can see from their site:
Intellectual Ventures has been actively inventing since August 2003. The company has filed thousands of patent applications in more than 50 technology areas and has thousands of ideas under consideration.
Since 2003 they have been gumming up the USPTO as well. Note that they've filed thousands of patent applications. No mention of how many were issued. It's entirely possible that they were issued to the actual people working at IV and not to IV but a search shows nine patents issued to IV on the USPTO.
So remember the TED Laser Mosquito/Malaria technology? That's just a patent waiting to be issued then licensed but until then I wouldn't recommend building any. -
Yes, Per Patent
Will IV allow licensing of their patent portfolio, or will they do like a lot of companies, just get patents so nobody else can use them?
Well, from their their website they list all their "products" and services:
- Purchasing a nonexclusive license to relevant IV portfolio(s) on a term or life-of-patent basis
- Purchasing an exclusive license (subject to pre-existing licenses) to selected IV invention(s) on a term or life-of-patent basis
- AccessingIntellectual Property to use as defense against the threat of corporate assertions
- Leveraging IV’s sophisticated acquisition capabilities to gain access to inventions of particular interest to you
- Using IV as a financing source for mergers & acquisitions (M&A) whereby IV agrees to purchase a target company’sIntellectual Property to “bridge” the acquirer’s effective offer
- Creating new inventions in conjunction with IV’s inventors and invention process
The first bullet appears to answer your question that yes, they do. But when you say "patent portfolio" I don't think you'll find anyone with enough cash to access to the whole portfolio, most likely it's one license to one patent at a time. I think their big "product" is providing a service to liquidate your patent very easily (like a pawn shop for patents) so far. This salvo may change that.
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Re:They don't seem to be a typical troll
To me, what separates "patent troll" from "people with cool ideas and patents on them" is that one of them markets their product to people interested in developing them, and the other waits until someone else develops their product and jumps out and says "surprise!" More accurately, trolls try to claim the treble damages reward for "knowingly" infringing on the patent, despite the fact that the first anyone heard of the patent is the C&D after the product is already done and on the market. To keep the suspense up, trolls typically stretch patents in ways that nobody could have anticipated, and usually rely on the brain dead patent "continuation" mechanism to keep a patent application alive while adjusting it to fit what would otherwise be called prior art (PanIP's legendary rampage through the e-commerce sphere at the turn of the century was based on a patent "filed" in 1994 that was a continuation of a patent filed in 1984, meaning that all prior art had to be dated before 1984, even though the patent claimed to have invented things that were in use by others in the decade between).
I don't know how this company does their business, but http://www.intellectualventures.com/inv_main.aspx links to a blog at http://intellectualventureslab.com/ when you want to find out more about their patents. I'm sure if I put "shoot mosquitoes" or "mosquito laser" into google, I'll find that they've invented this, even if I have to "research" past the first page of hits (heck, they're even on the first page for "mosquito zapper").
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Re:For the better, no doubt
"Patent infringement" will be ignored because everyone owns a piece of each patent.
If by "everyone" you mean "established monopolies"... Say Apple and Microsoft agree to play together. With their pooled resource they have "a system of libraries for a graphical user interface that allows other applications to run" patented. Who is going to be able to challenge them in their markets? Or what if GSK patents "a system for cloning brain cells", even though they don't have the technology or products developed yet? That is pretty much this company's stated goal:"We are focused on a wide range of technologies which represent our beliefs of where technology is headed. Some of these technologies are near term and others are much further out. By focusing on invention rather than product development, we have the freedom to work with 5-10 year (or even 20 year) time horizons rather than 2-3 years."
Maybe if I saw the EFF, ACLU, and Google combining their efforts to assist Intellectual Ventures I'd have more hope for this idealistic view of things... -
Patent Companies & Patent Auctions
With patent auctions all over the place (even online), I'm not surprised about Intellectual Ventures.
If you are in the mood to swallow some Grade A tripe, check out their business plan.
1. Invention Labs.
2. Invention Research & Development.
3. Invention Library (tm).
4. Market Enablement.
5. Profit!
By the way, the "tm" after the Invention Library means trademark. Yes, they've even patented terms in their business plan. -
You mean like Intellectual Ventures?
However, the legal risk of the kernel right now due to submarine patents is significant. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft were planning to fund a company to do this right now. It would be far cheaper than their current SCO-funded lawsuit, and a lot more effective. This risk, and potential downside, far outweighs that of going to GPL 3.
See http://www.intellectualventures.com/
And from a Newsweek article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6478691/site/newsweek/ But spinning new ideas is only a small part of the plan. Sources familiar with Myhrvold's strategy say that he has raised $350 million from some of the largest companies in high tech: Microsoft, Intel, Sony, Nokia and Apple. Google and eBay also recently invested. With this large bankroll, the company is out buying existing patents in droves. (Myhrvold won't comment on these activities, but sources say he has already purchased about 1,000 patents.) The strategy is to set up a sort of patent marketplace. Patent owners get money upfront for the dusty ideas sitting on their shelves, the investors get the rights to use the ideas without being sued and Myhrvold gets to rent those same ideas to other companies that need them to continue creating products. Intellectual-property experts say his plan is audacious and unprecedented, customized for a new, rapidly dawning business environment."
Anecdotally, you don't want to ignore their first "invitation" to join their investment fund, either, I hear - it can be very, very expensive the second time they approach you... -
Uhmm, this is not that surprising...
Coming from a guy who works at a patent-focused company.