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Re:Law & order is reichwing
This is a popular misconception. In fact, New Labour was not taken over by the right, but rather by far left Stalinists and Trotskyists.
Here is a recent article from a well-known British journalist.
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Re:Don't worry about the quality, feel the cost
This actually reminds me of a story I read a little while ago from the UK where a girl was misdiagnosed with swine flu by an over the phone diagnosis system employed in the UK. Apparently she actually had tonsillitis and ended up dying from it due to complications that arose.
There is a significant difference between describing your symptoms to someone who may or may not be qualified to diagnose you, and actually seeing a doctor.
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Prevent as much sulfur pollution as possible
The evil sulfur pollution that causes much of global warming and harm to human health is blamed on cars. This is not true. If you wanted to create the same effect on sulfur pollution as shredding every personal auto on Earth, you could do so by sinking 16 ships. 16. Not billions, not millions, not 1/2 or 1/3 or 1/1000th. 16.
/16 ships create more pollution than all the cars in the world.
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Re:Mandatory?
MI6 head outed on facebook by his wife, with many details. Viewable by all of the "London" network.
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1197562/MI6-chief-blows-cover-wifes-Facebook-account-reveals-family-holidays-showbiz-friends-links-David-Irving.htmlLooking at the photo behind the link... You think having the ability to completely hide your eyeballs and thus emotional state from everyone around you gives ppl an advantage in certain industries? Is it natural skill ?
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Re:Mandatory?
Good idea, but you'd have to dial it back a notch for most corporations.
Try these:MI6 head outed on facebook by his wife, with many details. Viewable by all of the "London" network.
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1197562/MI6-chief-blows-cover-wifes-Facebook-account-reveals-family-holidays-showbiz-friends-links-David-Irving.htmlBank intern fired for lying about a family emergency, then pasting party pics of him dressed up as a fairy on facebook:
http://valleywag.gawker.com/tech/your-privacy-is-an-illusion/bank-intern-busted-by-facebook-321802.phpAnother example of being fired for putting dumb stuff on facebook:
http://www.liquidmatrix.org/blog/2009/08/13/social-networking-fail-fail-fail/Plenty of fail, Safe for work.
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Yes, but it's in Chickens, not frogs
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1026340/Jurassic-Park-comes-true-How-scientists-bringing-dinosaurs-life-help-humble-chicken.html According to Jack Horner, professor of palaeontology at Montana State University, the answer is an unequivocal yes. He says: "Of course we can bring them back to life. Their ancestral DNA is still present. "The science is there. I don't think there are any barriers, other than the philosophical."
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Re:Noooo
I'm thinking the moderators don't have a sense of humour.
That or they're Americans, who spell it wrong (but not like the other guy did).
I tried to think of a legume related pun but failed epically. I did wonder how sales of modelling clay were going these days and whether anyone had been round to Adobe's offices and smashed all their windows...
I'm thinking about the time when a British pediatrician was harassed by pedophobes
Never really understood that. Did it occur to anybody that even if it meant what they thought it meant, someone is highly unlikely to stick a sign up advertising the fact?
Anyway, the doctor in the case you mention is female, and it's a known fact that only men can be pedea^H pedio^H [oh, sod it] kiddy fiddlers.
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Re:Widening gap in first posts
Women can't be pedaiophiddlers? I think someone is mistaken.
Well, that is the policy of British Airways. All men are guilty pedophiles, and all women are innocent responsible law-abiding citizens.
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Hanging on just long enough...
4th November
Scientists create new life mouse frozen 16 YEARS
5th November
Author Michael Crichton dies, 66 -
Re:All I can say is...
Summary: NHS didn't cover a cancer drug, so the woman paid for it herself. NHS then said "well, now that you paid for that yourself, we're cutting you off completely."
FTA:
Mrs O'Boyle, an NHS occupational therapist, is believed to be the first person to die after being denied free care because of 'co-payment', where a patient tops up treatment by paying privately for extra drugs.
Co-payment was blocked last year by Health Secretary Alan Johnson because he claimed it would create a two-tier Health Service.
...Medical experts say the ban on co-payment is one reason why Britain has one of the worst survival rates for cancer in Europe.
...A spokesman for the Southend trust said: 'It is explained to the patient that they can either have their treatment under the NHS or privately but not both in parallel.'
It sounds like the "choice" is either:
(A) take what they give you, or (B) pay for it on your own... but in either case, you're still paying for (A) through your taxes. -
Re:Cell phones and terrorists
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1073990/Iceland-owes-world-116-000-man-woman-child-island.html
e.g. "The freezing order was issued under the 2001 Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act that was passed after the September 11 attacks the same year."http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7662599.stm
e.g, "But Mr Haarde responded angrily to the move, saying it was "not very pleasant" to learn that anti-terror laws were being used against its companies and also blamed Britain for the collapse of Kaupthing."Also here's some people forum discussion on the BBC refering to it as well...
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&forumID=5483&edition=1&ttl=20081019201232&#paginator -
Re:Bring it to a recycling centre
I'd have some reservations about taking it to many "recyclers". Some actually perform the recycling and metals reclaimation themselves, but many more just take all the equipment to the Third World (Africa and South Asia seem to be popular) and dump it there.
Anyone taking old IT junk for free or without charging significantly for its disposal is almost certainly dumping. Although there is a significant precious-metals content in them, it's not (yet) worth the labor required to reclaim it in the developed world. (Which is why you don't see people soliciting e-waste in the same way they do scrap metal or junk cars.) It's a lucrative business when you can employ starving children to do it, but not so much otherwise.
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Not exactly...
I'd like to hear about a business model whereby the artists produce the music and put it out on the Internet for free.
Music artists make a lot more money out of shows than from selling CDs. Nowadays you can find top artists distributing free CDs, providing full albums under Creative Commons license, and even refusing to record new albums since 1990. And you can be sure these groups are still making huge profits from their shows, thank you very much!
This is not even something new. Here in Brazil, music artists have been complaining for decades that record labels quite often pay them peanuts by "cheating" on sale numbers or simply ignoring contract agreements -- even the big labels such as EMI. But they continued recording CDs anyway, simply because the sustained publicity help promote their live shows, which is the part that really matters.
There is no revenue in recorded music anymore. I know I'm not buying any, and nobody I know is buying any.
Even before the time of MP3s and pirated CDs, everybody I know used to spend even more money buying show tickets than vinyls. From what I can tell, live shows became an even larger business now than decades ago.
I think the "business" of music is pretty much over.
For record labels, obviously. But for artists? Not at all!
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Re:Useless information
Hmmmm. Uk.... terror plots.... IMs to Pakistan.... web based training.... emails to cell members.... "Jihadi" web sites.... So I guess it's funny because it could be true?
Police have foiled 15 terror plots in Britain since the 2000, Ian Blair reveals
The suicide bombers who met at McDonald's: Image shows meeting with '7/7 terror plotter'
Car Bomb Found in London 20 Days After al Qaeda Suicide Bomber 'Graduation Ceremony'
Training camps for terrorists in UK parks
UK camps 'preparation for terror'
Men 'planned airliner explosions'
Airline terror trial shown liquid bomb exploding
[Channel 4 News] UK airline plot martyrdom videos released
Fertiliser bomb plot: The story
Five men have been convicted of plotting to build a bomb which police say could have killed hundreds of British people. The men were caught after police and MI5 launched a massive surveillance operation.
I would think most people would prefer avoiding another 7/7 attack.
Well, carry on with the snarky comments then. After all, that's what keeps us all safe, isn't it? Certainly it couldn't have anything to do with the security services based on the typical post on Slashdot. And never forget Bin Laden's gracious peace offer. All we have to do is convert to Islam as nations, abolish our respective constitutions and replace them with Sharia, start enforcing strict Islamic morality (which will mean killing homosexuals and blasphemers, no more alcohol, drugs, charging interest on loans, pornography, fornication, etc., etc.), then Bob's your uncle - peace! And look, the necessary infrastructure and supporting institutions are already coming into place, supported by leading religious figures. If converting to Islam is too high a price for you, there is even an Islamic alternative for many of you. -
Re:Useless information
Hmmmm. Uk.... terror plots.... IMs to Pakistan.... web based training.... emails to cell members.... "Jihadi" web sites.... So I guess it's funny because it could be true?
Police have foiled 15 terror plots in Britain since the 2000, Ian Blair reveals
The suicide bombers who met at McDonald's: Image shows meeting with '7/7 terror plotter'
Car Bomb Found in London 20 Days After al Qaeda Suicide Bomber 'Graduation Ceremony'
Training camps for terrorists in UK parks
UK camps 'preparation for terror'
Men 'planned airliner explosions'
Airline terror trial shown liquid bomb exploding
[Channel 4 News] UK airline plot martyrdom videos released
Fertiliser bomb plot: The story
Five men have been convicted of plotting to build a bomb which police say could have killed hundreds of British people. The men were caught after police and MI5 launched a massive surveillance operation.
I would think most people would prefer avoiding another 7/7 attack.
Well, carry on with the snarky comments then. After all, that's what keeps us all safe, isn't it? Certainly it couldn't have anything to do with the security services based on the typical post on Slashdot. And never forget Bin Laden's gracious peace offer. All we have to do is convert to Islam as nations, abolish our respective constitutions and replace them with Sharia, start enforcing strict Islamic morality (which will mean killing homosexuals and blasphemers, no more alcohol, drugs, charging interest on loans, pornography, fornication, etc., etc.), then Bob's your uncle - peace! And look, the necessary infrastructure and supporting institutions are already coming into place, supported by leading religious figures. If converting to Islam is too high a price for you, there is even an Islamic alternative for many of you. -
Re:The only response I haveHow about taking the best of both worlds, frivolous suits pay, legitimate claims battle it out like normal and maybe a process to argue legitimacy before the other part is even involved.
Ultimately, one thing certain. Loser pays exists, and the problems you expect from a loser pays system don't seem to hinder the system. Long term success is a much stronger argument than "hypothetical scenario x" in my opinion.
I don't know it you understand this, but the two societies are fundamentally different too. But they aren't all that different and the loser pays doesn't make the differences you think it does.
Here are a few more examples of outragious suits in a loser pays system.
http://www.rjw.co.uk/news-events/directnews/policeman-sues-daily-mail-for-libel-damages
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2886299.stm
I'm sure there are a few more examples. I just found these with a simple search. -
Re:Cue the OLPC griefers
Wow, I missed your point too. Whoosh.
Do you want to try again?
Not all people were created equal.
And apparently some of the kids that got these laptops were better than some.
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The already do resort to roads signs
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=436983
I would expect idiots to ignore them, because the computer voice must be obeyed. -
Re:Please smarten up
UK national paper giving away free Prince CD, everybody in UK wanting a CD gets one for free
I'm in the US, but I don't subscribe to the New York Times.
6 million adults read The Mail on Sunday every week. This is 13% of the UK adult population.
13% is not 100%. If that other 87% runs out and tries to buy a copy of the paper, will there enough?
I'm sure they have the capacity to whip up 50 000 000 more copies in a couple hours, right?
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Re:Is privacy really a good thing though?
There may be no crime perpetuated by the villagers themselves but what of visitors?
My Dad told me two stories about visitors to the village. In one, a large group of gypsies arrived and camped on one of the fields. They had lots of dogs running around, music playing, hordes of verminous children shouting and so on. The villagers watched them from inside their houses, and from inside the pub. After a while, some local emerged from the pub and gave the gypsies some friendly advice. There are lots of farms there, and farmers don't like to see dogs off the leash. The gypsies told him to f*ck off. He went back into the pub. Night fell, and everyone eventually went to sleep, even though the gypsies made a lot of noise late into the night.
When they woke up, the gypsies found all their dogs had been shot in the night. All the locals have shotguns, and some of them went hunting carrying them, walking past the gypsy encampment. The gypsies took the hint and left that day.
In the second, the locals told my parents that they before my parents bought a house there, people had seen them driving around, and thought it was suspicious. Someone had checked up on their license plate and other people had talked to them. Eventually word spread that they were basically civilised people planning to move there. Then the surveillance stopped.
So there's a kind of authentication process. If you show some respect, all is ok. But if the gypsies hadn't of taken the hint, things would have got really nasty. The police are essentially part of the system, so it's not like there are any laws restraining people from protecting it.
It's a sort of oligarchic utopia utopia really, an example of a society that works well because it ignores liberal sacred cows like the right to privacy. I rather admire that, and want to try to extend that system to the UK as a whole. There are clear analogies for example from the gypsies to criminals or fundamentalist Muslims and from my parents to people who are moving to the UK in good faith. The UK hasn't traditional been a country of universal rights, that's an idea no older than the current Labour government. They've backed down on it somewhat.
E.g. look at this
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/ news/news.html?in_article_id=457934&in_page_id=177 0&ct=5
The Mail on Sunday is a Tory paper and interestingly they also link to an article on "Human rights nonsense", about how extending rights to people that are hostile to civilisation hampers the government. They mention approvingly that the Tories will derogate from the human rights act.
In village terms, you could say that the FTAC is the locals in the pub, and the terrorists suspects are the gypsies. Some people are alien to culture of the UK and the people that run it can quite legitimately decide to deny them rights that they would have if they made some attempt to fit it. Most of the people in the village are Tory voters, and now that Blair is going, ironically brought down by the far left, there is a fair chance that derogation will end its brief experiment with US style inalienable rights. -
So what is Iran actually like?
According to this article (well worth reading, despite the newspaper it is from), Iran's not that bad.
Sure, the elections may be dodgy, but it's democratic. Nobody seems to like the leaders as they don't represent the people and it's unlikely they'll be in power long. The people are pushing the boundaries in all walks of life. In fact they're far more Western than a country like Turkey. And as for the political situation, it doesn't sound unlike any other Western country - unpopular leadership, dodgy elections, etc.
But no, the Western media portray Iran as a country hell bent of destroying the West, destroying Israel (the viewpoint of one politician who doesn't have that power), and evil evil evil. But in a country with 40% of people under the age of 15, you really don't want to invade badly like in Iraq, and turn them ALL against you for the rest of their lives.
Now whilst the article above is but one story that gives an idea of life within Iran, it is counter to the rhetoric and fearmongering that is so popular within our media. -
Re:Give the Students More Credit
Here's another story of dumb principals - A school prefect has been banned by the principal from attending the final year prom simply because she refused to attend after-hours revision sessions. This is despite the fact she got
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Re:Next best thing since...Unfortunately I cannot view YouTube at work
:(1. Faster recharge will be your selling point, long recharge = no sale no matter how much it doesent matter.
2. Please look up "dust-to-dust" or "Cradle-to-Grave" energy consumption of electric or hybrid cars compared to, say, range rovers and I think you will find that no matter how "clean" the end procut is, the production method makes it a LOT less attractive. There was an article not too long ago about a toyota battery production factory being under investigation for producing too much polution. Here is an example after a quick search:http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fArtic
l eId=3528666&fSectionId=1645&fSetId=381. And here is the factory link:http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/arti cles/news/news.html?in_article_id=417227&in_page_i d=17703. Yes but tens of millions electrics dont use as much energy as a car.
At the end of the day electric batteries for use in car are not and will not be up to par for mainstream use for a very very long time. Hydrogen on the other hand may provide some more efficiency than petrol in the long run. More efficiency = more environmentaly friendly.
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and furthermore
The original article is an opinion piece for a small college newspaper. The whole article is garbage. 1. Take the "spitting distance" mileage, for example. The new EPA combined mileage put the Chevy Aveo at 26 mpg, the Toyota Prius at 46 mpg. So I guess 20 miles more per gallon is "spitting distance." 2. The "Dust-to-dust" study is from a marketing firm, not a science journal. It arrives at an artificially high cost for the Prius by assigning it an arbitrary lifespan of 100k miles, and a Hummer 300k miles. There's Prius being used as cabs that have 200k on them now: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8839690/ And, insofar as a car lasting, what car do you expect to repair less? A Toyota Prius or a GM Hummer? You can check Consumer Reports for the answer to that one. A good analysis of the flaws in dust-to-dust is available at: http://www.truedelta.com/blog/?p=48 3. The Sudbury info is seriously outdated, and the comment about moon buggies (like, when did Nasa test moon buggies -- early 1970's) ought to have given the author a clue. Sudbury was polluted by a century of mining (1870 on). In fact, some of Sudbury's nickel went into making the Statue of Liberty. Currently, the mine is owned by INCO (not Toyota), and produces 100,000 tons of nickel a year, of which Toyota buys 1% (1000 tons). Nickel, by the way, is primarily used to make stainless steel. The Mail on Sunday newspaper, which ran the story the college article is a thin re-write of (visible here http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles
/ news/news.html?in_article_id=417227&in_page_id=177 0 ), used a stock photo from 1994 to illustrate the pollution (visible here http://www.photoboy.com/bin/Cklb?vmo=1173985067754 ). There were, of course, no Prius in existence or being manufactured in 1994. Sudbury is no longer as polluted, as INCO and the city have planted over 8 million trees there since 1979. The best history online of the Sudbury devastation/reforestation comes from GM Canada (the trees were all cut down in 1871 to help rebuild Chicago after the fire), and it provides telling photos of some of the reclamation from 1979 to present. http://www.gmcanada.com/inm/gmcanada/english/about /MissionGreen/Daily/Sep22.html The acid rain problem David Martin of Greenpeace is talking about in is the situation pre 1972. INCO on regreening and SO2 emissions http://www.inco.com/development/community/profiles /sudbury/default.aspx -
Re:Journalism?
If such an investigation finds no hidden counter-claims, then we will know for a fact that the claims of stifling are overblown.
Because the BBCsaid so? !
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Re:Complete PCs or Components
The Sunday Mail have an article on this subject. Basically, the BBC is pushing for TV licenses to be paid on all electronic devices that can play streamed video (mobile phones, laptops, PC's with TV/satellite reception cards). If you go into a store, you will be asked to fill in a form giving your name and address. This isn't an extended warranty, it's to send to the TV Licensing Authority. Similarly anything ordered online will also forward your address to the TVLA. And with the right software, even a console game system would be eligible as well, even if you didn't have a TV in the house (if it had a web browser and could play RealPlayer/Quicktime clips). At present, a TV license costs around 180 pounds/year.
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Re:.xxx is a really, really bad idea
It applies to *everyone*. In the UK, it's considered perfectly harmless to show topless women on television.
The BBC/HBO `Rome' has penises, pudenda and sexual acts in regular doses. Reviews pointed out that the lead actresses pubic topiary may be anachronistic. It's being broadcast on BBC2 at 9pm. It's got complaints but no-one will care. ITV1, the main commercial channel, showed Don't Look Now uncut a couple of weeks ago, and it's been shown routinely unmutilated on mainstream TV since (to my certain knowledge) the early 1980s. Indeed, the former prime minister's daughter having a piss is now mainstream TV, too, for those that watch and read poor peoples' media.Meanwhile, in America, a slightly tubby lass showing a nipple is a national scandal, and Christian film reviews now index naked male backs in a manner which would be amusingly camp if it weren't so nastily prurient.
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