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No, they wouldn't. Look at it.

It looks like an old style land rover, though it would be more likely its one of those old style Toyota's. Either way, it'd be called a 4WD.

A ute is totally fucking different.

Hah. I tried for the heck of it find my ol' training grounds. Unfortunately, I have no idea about the layout of the city (call it oldfashioned stubbornness of a (former) resident of a Small City not to learn the nearest Big City's geography =) so I ended up guessing a bit. Boom, I get an unhelpful map and a really grainy satellite pic. But never worry! I can always go to the Finnish Defence Forces homepage and get really damn precise directions on how to get there. They even hint "You need to look for 'Prikaatintie, Kajaani' if you use a navigator or a map service".

Well, maybe the ter-yo-rists aren't interested of some boring military installation in middle of nowhere. Besides, I'm guessing I'm not divulging a great military secret by saying they've got shitload of guns and people who can use them there. Maybe they want to hit the presidential palace or whatever. After all, they've got sharp aerial photographs of that in Google, not just blurry satellite pics! Aww crap, they've got directions on the website too. And something even far more vile: The information is translated to English so there's no language barrier for foreign terrorists! And the site has something jaw-droppingly dumb in there: ground level photos! Haven't they considered those will allow the potential terrorists to identify the building even more easily?! Now the terrorists won't need to kidnap and torture an Average Helsinki Resident to get a description of the building - even if, from the point of view of someone living here in the far north, it might sound like a productive hobby for them!

Well, Finland is a industrialized country and has used mines in a responsible way in the past. The way Finnish Defence Forces operated during the war time was using mine field maps to mark the location of mines. Why are mines necessary for us? 3940 kilometers of land border. As far as I know, Finland hasn't deployed mines by dropping them by the shitloadhttp://everything2.com/index.pl?node=shitl oad from a plane. Old wartime mines have never been a huge problem, I remember there were a couple of casualties after the war, but nothing after that. There are no areas where one could not trek safely.

Do we really need mines? Considering the previous conflict with Russia, I would say yes. Should mines be randomly tossed into the woods? Hell no.

Mines are not a problem when used properly.

Some information from the military http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/00074_ en.dsp

I know I should have applied to more computer technological department in the FDF, but anyway I conscripted to the Guard Jaeger Regiment (in Finnish). It was in 1999 and even then they had internet connection conscripted could use.

Later on this year I was lecturing for some conscripted from Defence Forces Education Development Centre, they all had laptops given by the FDF and while I was teaching them I saw at least some of them running irssi thru ssh, the very same method I use to get on IRC when I'm at work. Too bad I wasn't able to see their channels so I couldn't join them later.

My father had been visiting the Education Development Centre when he worked for the same company that I do and he told me that it seems to be all candy and chocolate compared to normal service in fighting units. Of course if you ask from someone who has already served his 6/8/9/12 months then the service today is no match to the time when the temperature was 20 degrees below absolute zero and Adolf Hitler was a sensitive man compared to the sergeant that one time...

I know I should have applied to more computer technological department in the FDF, but anyway I conscripted to the Guard Jaeger Regiment (in Finnish). It was in 1999 and even then they had internet connection conscripted could use.

Later on this year I was lecturing for some conscripted from Defence Forces Education Development Centre, they all had laptops given by the FDF and while I was teaching them I saw at least some of them running irssi thru ssh, the very same method I use to get on IRC when I'm at work. Too bad I wasn't able to see their channels so I couldn't join them later.

My father had been visiting the Education Development Centre when he worked for the same company that I do and he told me that it seems to be all candy and chocolate compared to normal service in fighting units. Of course if you ask from someone who has already served his 6/8/9/12 months then the service today is no match to the time when the temperature was 20 degrees below absolute zero and Adolf Hitler was a sensitive man compared to the sergeant that one time...

If it only were so: after the initial month or so, they're usually on leave almost every weekend... unless of course they're FRDF or Special Forces..

If it only were so: after the initial month or so, they're usually on leave almost every weekend... unless of course they're FRDF or Special Forces..

Military service is mandatory in Finland, and min. service time is 180 days, max. 362 days. You can also carry out the service as civil service (395 days) and in some cases as unarmed military service (330 days if I remember correctly).

www.mil.fi

Those that refuse to enter even civil service can be sentenced to (usually a minimum security) prison for 197 days (max.).

I served aboard this one.

Finnish Hamina-class. Maybe not as radical as this ship, but stealth-ship regardless. And packed with high technology.

So what makes this Swedish ship "first stealth-ship", when there are already stealth-ships in use in Finland? And they have been in use for quite some time already.

I'm not from the USA, so I don't care one bit what your Constituion says. My point was that there are many things that could be used for either good (police with firearms) or bad (that raving lunatig robbing a 7-11 using a gun), yet they are not illegal. Your Constitution doesn't protect cars either, and they too can be used for good things and bad things. Why are P2P-utilities an exception here? They can be used for either good or bad, yet some powers-at-be get their panties in the bunch because of them.

I'm not some anti-gun activist, and I apologize if my post made it seem like that. Hell, I have lived around guns for as long as I can remember. I was around 6 years old when I shot with a pistol for a first time. And I was raised well when it comes to firearms (thanks to my father who served as a gunsmith in the Army).

Damn..
Wish I had been this confident.

When I was in the situation of singing a contract, I was rather desperate on getting a job. Thus I signed about whatever was passed before me.

Now I am stuck with this company. My contract basically denys me the right to associate in anyway with any clients the company might have. When I signed the contract, I thought this wouldn't be a big deal because the company itself was so small it didn't have any clieants in which I wish to work.
But now. I think I actually have to switch country if I wan't an immediate job with some high profile IT company.
The contract binds me for 6 months in this field after I have left the company for any other reason than to get 'let go' by them.

I have a 6 month period of mandatory military service coming up. If I was to leave the company just before I go to army, I would have my freedom once again.

Now I am also very confident they would rehire me if I wanted. I'm also quite confident I would have plenty of options to choose from.

Glad you brought it up... as you have noticed this vehicle is obviously lacking for those of us that have real needs. But you will be glad to hear that there exist a vehicle that could fulfill most of your needs. Of course there are some minor drawbacks but nothing that should stop you from reaping the endless possibilities this wonder will give YOU!

I give you *drumroll* the PASI!

This beautifull vehicle has 6 wheel drive and 4 wheel steering and seats 2+13. Loading capacity is 5500 kg unless you take it out into the water when it's limited to 2500 kg. Yes, it is indeed amphibian with a cruising speed of 9 km/h in water! For your safety we have equipped it with a 6 to 12 mm armor. Other vital statistics is a 900 km operating radius and as you wish... a turret mount for a 12.7 mm machine gun. Thanks to the wonderful flexibility of this vehicle you can now use it for as diverse activities as big game hunting in the African bush or fending of those pesky whales that are about to strand on your private beech BEFORE they reach it. We all know how hard it is to sanitize a beach after those lardbags have died there. Or you could just use it for a fishing trip to those pristine untouched lakes in roadless land.

Off course you might wish to add some modifications so it also meets you computing and communications needs. Here we suggest that you go with finnish-based solutions with Linux based Beowulf-clusters and Nokia for your mobile connectivity.

Go the Finnish way... you know you want to!

JK

BTW, guess what operating system www.mil.fi web server uses.