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Time Warner/Netscape posts thousands of new jobs on http://monsterindia.com/

This sounds like a fantastic idea! As a Unix systems administration guru I could make between 700K and 1M rupees a year! (US$15,473.03 - US$22,104.33) I hope I don't spend it all in one place.

I ran my Monster query [(unix or linux) AND (perl OR shell OR scripting OR debian OR "red hat" OR solaris OR admin OR administrator OR web OR apache) AND NOT "work at home"] against US jobs:

Query Results

Then the SAME query against Indian jobs:

Query Results

79 for US, 3,433 for India. Yep, and now I'm even more depressed, and that's saying quite a bit. I have GOT to get out of this industry as soon as possible.

http://jobsearch.globalgateway.monsterindia.com/jo bsearch.asp?cy=IN&q=programmer

For real results, you have only to look at Monster India.

Many jobs I am finding. Yes, good jobs, imported jobs, yes indeed.

Would you like a side of Tech Support with that software?

I used this job site to find my last job!

Let's say you've decided to follow the jobs, and want to seek out a software development position in India. As it turns out, there are a number of resources [monsterindia.com] on line to assist you in your quest. A slashdot poster has provided links regarding visas [slashdot.org] , and a little searching on Google can turn up info [google.com] for the low down on the cities you might want to work in.

The upshot: theoretically, it's possible. Now for some reality.

Visas: The Indian government slots visitors in order of preference: persons of Indian hertitage, other persons, Pakistanis and Afghans.

If your ancestry traces back to India, there is a special visa program for you. It's assumed that you've picked up some skills out in the world, and India wants to encourage you to bring 'em home to develop the nation.

If you are of other nationalities, a work visa is available. When applying, you must present documentation from an employer that they will be responsible for you. Good luck on that. If you're bringing a lot of capital and a business plan, well, that's another matter. Your visa must be renewed every year and a half or so.

If you are Pakistani or Afghan, you're due for a lot more scrutiny, and you'll have to submit considerable additional documentation.

Work Environment: Universities in India are pumping out a lot of tech grads, and there aren't yet enough jobs for all of them, although regional labor shortages do occur. Ergo, there's a lot of competition for jobs, so unless you were lead architect on the NT or Linux kernels in your last position (and if you are, you aren't getting outsourced, yet), don't think you're a shoo in. In fact, for an employer [rekha.com] to even go to the bother of hiring you, you'll need to show a truly sterling CV. After all, it's a major business risk and pain in the ass for them to bring you in country in the first place. As an aside, there seems to be opportunity for Japanese speakers now that firms are seeking to tap the demand for outsourcing from Japan. You'll working in a 1.5m square three sided cube, if you're lucky. Some up and coming companies [eximsoft.com] claim to respect that employees might have a life beyond the office, which should tell you what the norm is. When a contract is finished, you may find your ass back out on the street very quickly, just like in the States, and the social safety net assumes you've got family to lean on. You do not want to go broke in India.

Pay Packet: Ranging from INR130000 (US$2900) for a web developer with 2 years experience, to INR1400000 (US$30000) for a senior project manager with an MS. Yes, the scales are down a bit from the OECD, but pretty good for India, so with the addition of your current nest egg, you shouldn't have too much problem maintaining an Indian "middle class" lifestyle. Just keep in mind that Indian middle class priorities aren't always what you're used to. In addition, you aren't getting much credit for Social Security (USA only), and your ability to stash cash for retirement back in the OECD may suck, particularly if you're American.

Renting: As a foreigner, you can't buy property. There is a wide variety of rental properties, ranging from mansions and modern high rise c

The upshot: theoretically, it's possible. Now for some reality.

Visas: The Indian government slots visitors in order of preference: persons of Indian hertitage, other persons, Pakistanis and Afghans.

If your ancestry traces back to India, there is a special visa program for you. It's assumed that you've picked up some skills out in the world, and India wants to encourage you to bring 'em home to develop the nation.

If you are of other nationalities, a work visa is available. When applying, you must present documentation from an employer that they will be responsible for you. Good luck on that. If you're bringing a lot of capital and a business plan, well, that's another matter. Your visa must be renewed every year and a half or so.

If you are Pakistani or Afghan, it's obvious they don't trust you, and you'll have to submit considerable additional documentation.

Work Environment: Universities in India are pumping out a lot of tech grads, and there aren't yet enough jobs for all of them, although regional labor shortages do occur. Ergo, there's a lot of competition for jobs, so unless you were lead architect on the NT or Linux kernels in your last position (and if you are, you aren't getting outsourced, yet), don't think you're a shoo in. In fact, for an employer to even go to the bother of hiring you, you'll need to show a truly sterling CV. After all, it's a major business risk and pain in the ass for them to bring you in country in the first place. As an aside, there seems to be opportunity for Japanese speakers now that firms are seeking to tap the demand for outsourcing from Japan. You'll working in a 1.5m square three sided cube, if you're lucky. Some up and coming companies claim to respect that employees might have a life beyond the office, which should tell you what the norm is. When a contract is finished, you may find your ass back out on the street very quickly, just like in the States, and the social safety net assumes you've got family to lean on. You do not want to go broke in India.

Renting: As a foreigner, you can't buy property. There is a wide variety of rental properties, ranging from mansions and modern high rise condos you couldn't afford on a San Jose salary, to the very pits. You really need to do your homework on this. Even though you may be working on an Indian pay scale, land lords will assume you're loaded, so it would be a major plus to bring an Indian friend to help you negotiate.

Getting On Line: The Indian government has only started moving to open up the infrastructure. In the meantime, brother, welcome back to dialup, and it ain't pretty. Getting regular phone service enabled can require several trips to the telecom office, with a side trip to the switching station to introduce yourself to the technicians. Getting dialup on that same line means more money, and more delays. Count on the link being noisy and unreliable. ISDN is available in some areas, but usually isn't linked to a TCP trunk(!). Switched 56k and up is available in some locations, but even 56k is well over US$1000/month. This might be an ideal environment to start an 802.11b freenet, but the equipment

While Linux community has been beleaguered by the fights like "Which fonts to include in the default distribution?" and "How do we make KDE/Gnome closer to MS Windows?", Microsoft has been investing and taking over the market share.

The company is focused as ever on keeping control of the computer market. You want the truth? Well, if you can handle it - Windows has more than 90% of the Tablet PC market. And that, remind you, is a market that just popped up few years ago.

How many Linux vendors did you see struggle for footprint in the Tablet PC market? How many of them announced R&D budgets to develop digital ink and writing recognition? Well, no wonder that Microsoft owns this market within a year, and soon enough as it gets big everyone will yell a monopoly. I guess the biggest Linux vendor was just way too busy with Bangalore job opportunities springing up.

I guess they had to jack up their prices to support all the wonderful new job opportunities they are creating.

And what choice do they have? It's either take the job or be unemployed and have no money food etc, and hope that your familiy can support you. (Welfare? doesn't exist of course)

What choice do they have? Lets see, they could work for Sun, Cisco, Microsoft, Motorola, Yahoo, Adobe, Hughes, EDS or Oracle, to name a few employers in India.

What makes you think that IBM are even looking for the best talent?

How much bargaining power in the job market do you think these Indian workers have?

you seem to be woefully misinformed about the Indian job market. The number one concern of employers is how to retain their employees for more that 6 months due to aggressive recruiting techniques and incentives from competitors. Check out Monster India, Naukri or Career India for a clue, or just look at the results for this Google search.

Krishna

I think I'll keep my sysadmin job. They'll have a hard time replacing ME with some overseas Indian.

LOL

Tell that to the sysadmin staff of ADDR. They were given half a days notice to leave. Their jobs are now in India, unfortunately they're still in Colorado.

But maybe they should just keep their jobs. I imagine they should just reapply for them...