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I've followed your links, and seen your comments in bug reports. I don't see where "the Mozilla team becomes abusive." I see some of your bug reports (bug 204668 and bug 222660 for example) where testers and developers (some of them Mozilla employees and others volunteers) asked you for further details so they could track down bugs. Rather than provide specific information to help track down the bugs, you instead started ranting on Slashdot.

There was actually a known-bug [1] on addons.mozilla.org that had search results for Thunderbird extensions returning a mix of (seemingly)Firefox and Thunderbird extensions. I believe this is the bug he was talking about. It was opened a year and a half ago.
The *new* addons site was rewritten and launched a few months back, and I don't know if it has this bug still.
[1] "Bug 325840 - Mozilla extensions that also "support" Thunderbird overwhelm real TB extensions"

If you can't even get her name right, how is it you're such an expert on what her capabilities are? It's Mitchell.

Mitchell is the board chair of the foundation, and the CEO of the _corporation_ (there is a significant difference). The corporation makes it pretty clear that it's focus is Firefox, not Thunderbird. The primary goal is increasing the market share of a stable product that enhances the end-user experience, keeps the web from becoming a proprietary sandbox dominated by a single browser product and its creators ideas on client lock-in, and providing a safe alternative to other browsers.

If a CPU bug or other quirk bugs you, instead of pissing on people (you've got a lot of balls saying that people don't want to do the work) and grinding whatever axe you have with Mitchell's name on it, get involved with the project and try and help address the problem. At the very least, reference the bugzilla id's of the bugs you mention, because I can think of several reasons why a CPU would spin or for memory bloat, and some of them have been acknowledged and improved on over the course of major and minor releases, and maybe there's a fix or a reason why the quirks that irk you haven't been addressed.

Insightful my ass. Petty and completely off-topic is more like it.

If you can't even get her name right, how is it you're such an expert on what her capabilities are? It's Mitchell.

Mitchell is the board chair of the foundation, and the CEO of the _corporation_ (there is a significant difference). The corporation makes it pretty clear that it's focus is Firefox, not Thunderbird. The primary goal is increasing the market share of a stable product that enhances the end-user experience, keeps the web from becoming a proprietary sandbox dominated by a single browser product and its creators ideas on client lock-in, and providing a safe alternative to other browsers.

If a CPU bug or other quirk bugs you, instead of pissing on people (you've got a lot of balls saying that people don't want to do the work) and grinding whatever axe you have with Mitchell's name on it, get involved with the project and try and help address the problem. At the very least, reference the bugzilla id's of the bugs you mention, because I can think of several reasons why a CPU would spin or for memory bloat, and some of them have been acknowledged and improved on over the course of major and minor releases, and maybe there's a fix or a reason why the quirks that irk you haven't been addressed.

Insightful my ass. Petty and completely off-topic is more like it.

Yeah, replying to myself...

Penelope is the Thundora name. It's got a Talk page, mostly full of wishlists.

The great news is it looks like the entire Qualcomm team went with Eudora, so it's skilled coders well familiar with the territory. How they interact with the Tbird team is hard to tell from a cursory lookover.

Frankly I'm betting their value is as a team of experienced email developers, and any code they can reuse from Eudora is just gravy compared to their skillsets and understanding of the problem space.

Tho, they do seem awfully quiet. From a quick glance it looks like they're busy figuring out bridges, compatibilities, etc. Hopefully they don't get stuck in a Chandler quagmire.

Yeah, replying to myself...

Penelope is the Thundora name. It's got a Talk page, mostly full of wishlists.

The great news is it looks like the entire Qualcomm team went with Eudora, so it's skilled coders well familiar with the territory. How they interact with the Tbird team is hard to tell from a cursory lookover.

Frankly I'm betting their value is as a team of experienced email developers, and any code they can reuse from Eudora is just gravy compared to their skillsets and understanding of the problem space.

Tho, they do seem awfully quiet. From a quick glance it looks like they're busy figuring out bridges, compatibilities, etc. Hopefully they don't get stuck in a Chandler quagmire.

The Firefox CPU hogging and memory gobbling bug would take some serious troubleshooting to find, and no one wants to do the work, apparently.

You mean the one where If you open a lot of windows and tabs in Firefox on a laptop, and put the laptop in and out of standby, you will eventually notice that the laptop fan is running all the time, even when there is no activity. That's the CPU bug, and it can potentially shorten the life of your laptop? It looks like it's fixed. As for a "memory gobbling bug", you'll have to describe in much more detail what you mean. Firefox seems to use less memory than other browsers, and in addition, about 100 memory leak bugs have been fixed in the past year.

If you see a quirk in Firefox, simply write up a bug report specifying in enough detail what the problem is, and it will be fixed. Whining about them on Slashdot is about the least effective thing you can do.

The Firefox CPU hogging and memory gobbling bug would take some serious troubleshooting to find, and no one wants to do the work, apparently.

You mean the one where If you open a lot of windows and tabs in Firefox on a laptop, and put the laptop in and out of standby, you will eventually notice that the laptop fan is running all the time, even when there is no activity. That's the CPU bug, and it can potentially shorten the life of your laptop? It looks like it's fixed. As for a "memory gobbling bug", you'll have to describe in much more detail what you mean. Firefox seems to use less memory than other browsers, and in addition, about 100 memory leak bugs have been fixed in the past year.

If you see a quirk in Firefox, simply write up a bug report specifying in enough detail what the problem is, and it will be fixed. Whining about them on Slashdot is about the least effective thing you can do.

What a long, strange trip it's been.

First there was Netscape, the browser, which of course grew to include a mail reader (as all apps must), then with NS4 it became a suite with an HTML editor and what-all else.

Then it became Mozilla, which started life as a NS4-style suite, but people wanted a non-bloated browser, so they made Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox (which of course went on to become quite popular) along with the suite, then they started offering all (most? whatever) portions of the suite available as separate apps, which is when Thunderbird arrived. (And Sunbird, the calendar.)

Then, they mostly got out of the suite business--the suite isn't even listed on the front page of mozilla.org--and now, they're going to ditch the standalone email client.

In other words, they've gone browser, browser+email, suite, suite, browser + other individual apps + a suite if you wanted, browser + other apps but no suite, and now just browser. My question is this: how long until they say "You know, Firefox is a great browser, but what we really need now is make an equally-nice email client."

I say within 18 months. Any takers?

Personally, I've got two jobs and am almost never home, and when I am home, I'm more likely to be using my laptop on the couch while watching TV than I am to be sitting at my desk. I've been webmail-only for four years now.

Eudora's home page http://www.eudora.com/ says that the paid mode Eudora is no longer available, and that an open source version of Eudora is being developed by Mozilla. An article at http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=2 0078 says that the new Eudora will be based on the Thunderbird engine. This is apparently the Penelope project http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope , which claims not to be trying to supplant Thunderbird, but may be about to do so. Would an insider please clarify all this?

If you prefer the Readers' Digest version with your helping of crow:

Installing IE 7 clearly changes the way Windows processes URIs. This is clearly illustrated by what happens if you pass the "bad" link directly to the Windows shell via the "Run" option in the Start menu. With IE6 installed, Outlook Express is launched, with IE7, cmd.exe and the calculator.

According to the Bugzilla entry for this problem, one reason for the new vulnerability is that Windows XP interprets the string %00 incorrectly. As a result, instead of the URL protocol handler, the FileType handler is called with the complete URL, via which it is then possible to call further programs with arbitrary arguments.

Web developer(a must-have) has a speed analyzing tool by default (well, more of a link to a website that does the job), I prefer to use that one. Here's an example of slashdot's report.

I just printed the two-page, multicolor Minefield Start Page on my HP inkjet, and both Mem Usage and VM Size for firefox.exe stayed under 50 MB the entire time, even with the Update Speed set to High to catch any momentary surges in memory usage. If there's a problem with memory usage during printing, it seems to either be fixed in nightly builds, or occurs with only certain inkjet drivers.

It would be relatively straightforward to handle problems of this sort transparently if web browsers supported SRV DNS records, as described in RFC 2052. Unfortunately, browser support is languishing. Mozilla's bug report for this was filed in the 90s.

IF you password protect your master password list then when you go to the "evil page" it will pop up a window asking for your master password. Furthermore to protect yourself even more you can install this plugin Master Password Timeout and set your password to time out after a very short period of time. This way every page you go to during your session that has a login you will have to enter you master password again anew.

Is this a fix. No. Does this work on all OS's yes.

Yeah, the title seems to indicate that there is a vulnerability with specific to the new FF release, but no. Same story.

Same solution (for FF) - which I got from a post in the previous story (thank you): Secure Login.

Secure Login

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/442 9 Secure Login Lots and lots of settings for every taste

In which case there is Minimo. The current Firefox project track does not lend it self to the suggestion made by the cnet article.

They've had this idea before for a small, fast oss browser... it's called Dillo http://www.dillo.org/.

Why not fund Dillo so it can start up production again?

And for Firefox lite compare it to Gnome's browser Epiphany--

Dillo http://www.dillo.org/download/dillo-0.8.6.tar.bz2 is less than 1 MB, Epiphany http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/epiphany/2. 18/epiphany-2.18.1.tar.bz2 is less than 5 MB, while Firefox ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/latest-2.0/source/firefox-2.0.0.5-source.tar. bz2 is ~35 MB!!

There are many lite weight open source browsers. Why not port them to Windows instead of asking Firefox to design another browser?

The Firefox name is synonymous with security

You were just kidding right? List of known vulnerabilities in Firefox:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vul nerabilities.html#Firefox

BTW if booktextmark extension seems useful to you (if you read long texts online,) please login and write a review.

it certainly runs on phones that Gecko could never even dream of touching

Would require either a XPConnect SAPI for PHP or a PHP compiler that emitted javascript (or compatible bytecode).

Basically the answer is yes, Tamarin has the potential to be everything parrot promised. But for now, you're probably better using javascript.

Mozilla Thundermonkey!

Try IE tab - it allows you to switch rendering engines of a specific FF tab/window
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/141 9

tab killer addon

Check out Minimo. Granted it's targeted for mobile devices, but would be the right starting point than scaling down Firefox.

which the browser would automatically know about as a date field and have its own built-in popup calendar for browsing dates

XForms, the W3C's forms module for XHTML, has this.
You just mark the data as type date and it does it for you.
The control is still input.

See XForms 1.0 and XForms 1.1 which is nearly done. There's support for this feature in the native implementation for Firefox, which is presently at about version 0.8.

So, you put the data in your XML data section (just like the Ajax stuff does), then you put your data type declarations in (string, boolean, date, email address, enumeration, etc), and then you use the tags inside your XHTML to refer to the data. It's exactly a three-layer model.

As pointed out, noscript is your friend. Another handy plugin is passwordmaker, https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/469

Makes it trivial to have different, secure passwords for each site.

Probably this FUSE filesystem is what you were talking about. I've heard about it but never used it.

Also, there's apparently a Firefox extension that works similarly, for all those non-linux users.

I've just submitted an enhancement request saying that NoScript + CookieSafe is how cookie and script security ought to work by default. If you agree, please pile on and vote for it.

Do not use a pull model but a push model like the bugmenot extension.

You know, that's not a bad idea. Apparently someone else had it too. Check out the Secure Login extension. It doesn't use a right click (although I kinda wish it did; may have to suggest that) but it does have a shortcut key and an icon.

Thanks for saying that; I would have never thought to go looking for such an extension without you saying it.

By using this extension, the security whole is fixed. Just have to wait around for FF to implement it natively.
This extension provides a *wand* like Opera has. (which is not affected by this security hole, because of this functionality).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/442 9

However, when scrolling down the screen then back up, the float box leaves traces of the bottom of the box marking the side panel. Not a huge problem, just weird/bad design.

gladder for firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/286 4

Firefox Greasemonkey extension for custom javascript

Firefox Stylish extension for custom CSS.

One or both of those, combined with the proper JS/CSS (a google search should find SEVERAL pre-made ones for you, just use the extension name + "fark" for the search) will fix most of the biggest annoyances, though it's still not perfect.

The funny thing is that one of the main reasons for doing this was to get space for larger-format ads (which is the real reason for the lack of an "old" option; no-one would use the new one, and those bigger ads would be wasted) but nearly all of the custom scripts block every ad on the page, whereas with the old layout I saw most of the ads since Adblock only got a couple and the others were never obnoxious enough (and were easy enough to ignore) that I didn't bother with them. Now, I see none. Good going, Drew.

Firefox Greasemonkey extension for custom javascript

Firefox Stylish extension for custom CSS.

One or both of those, combined with the proper JS/CSS (a google search should find SEVERAL pre-made ones for you, just use the extension name + "fark" for the search) will fix most of the biggest annoyances, though it's still not perfect.

The funny thing is that one of the main reasons for doing this was to get space for larger-format ads (which is the real reason for the lack of an "old" option; no-one would use the new one, and those bigger ads would be wasted) but nearly all of the custom scripts block every ad on the page, whereas with the old layout I saw most of the ads since Adblock only got a couple and the others were never obnoxious enough (and were easy enough to ignore) that I didn't bother with them. Now, I see none. Good going, Drew.

I guess that's all it takes to be "l33t" these days... - no, you also have to have this extension installed ;)

Reporters of valid critical security bugs will receive a $500 (US) cash reward and a Mozilla T-shirt

OK, maybe it's time to adjust the cash for the weak USD, but anyway...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q= rot13&status=4

I wouldn't really call that terribly clear. They're only adding in 4 features in the next year? Support for Office 2007 maybe next september? I'm all for OOo, and I use it daily, but I've seen far more detailed and spelled out schedules. Take the FF3 schedule for instance. Detail, exact dates, feature lists, etc.

and TFA has a Flash ad...

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