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Re:Release notes and comments
It does. Both inline-block and inline-table. Look at the changelog for the previous alpha: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a2/rel
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Re:Release notes and commentsYes, as of Alpha 2: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a2/rel
e asenotes/ The inline-block and inline-table values of CSS 2.1's display property are now implemented. -
Re:Bug!
So file it if it's not there already. That's what the alpha is for.
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Re:Release schedule?
Firefox 3 is planned to be released on November: http://wiki.mozilla.org/ReleaseRoadmap
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redraws involve headache-inducing white flashes
On OSX, Gran Paradiso Alpha 3 had an annoying habit of flashing a white screen before redrawing a page. To test this, just go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/ and click from tab to tab.
One can only hope that this won't occur in the release versions, because it is really quite annoying.
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Re:Not Flash again.
Yes, Flash is propietary, and yes, it has been abused for unnecessary eye candy
Get Firefox and install Flashblock. It replaces all flash animations with a "play" icon that you click to start, taking care of all those annoying advertisements. You can also whitelist sites like Youtube if you want. Flashblock + Adblock + Noscript = browsing nirvana. Noscript blocks all javascript on a page until you whitelist the site, either temporarily or permanently. And adblock allows you to selectively block scrips on a page.
For example, in one of my classes tests are taken online. The site uses a lot of Flash and javascript, so I have the site whitelisted. But they have a javascript to block right-clicking - one of my biggest pet peeves. So I use Adblock to block that script but leave everything else open. -
no clicks
this one made my life easier https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2207/
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Re:Using customer logins?
Nope:
Not Found
The requested URL /en-US/firefox/addon/59/ was not found on this server.
Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server at addons.mozilla.org Port 80It's here:
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Re:Evil flash banners
Sorry for going OT, but really, net-educated people have little or no reason to complain about ads in a world where Firefox and the Adblock extension is free.
I noticed absolutely zero ads on this site, simply because I had Adblock configured to kill all addresses [ad.*] and [ads.*].
Adblock is a sanity-saver, highly recommended.
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Re:Using customer logins?In case anyone is wondering how to do this, the user agent switcher for Firefox is here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
/ Encyclopedia Britannica is one of those sites that will (or at least used to) let you look at member-only info if you set your agent to googlebot.
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Re:I have to laugh
BBCode might be of assistance here...
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Re:Gravy Train derails
If apparently Google is allowed to read those papers, but when you visit with your browser, you aren't, there should be a simple solution:
Use Firefox, and get the agent-switcher extension.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
Add an entry named Google, and add the following user-agent:
Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.google.com/bot.html)
Now you should be able to see the same thing the Google bot sees.
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Re:Apple is Evil. (Links)
How hard would it have been to include the URLs?
#324253, a cross site XSS exploit which nobody responsible for the code seems to care about.
#45375, a request to make tooltips not cut off at an arbritrary length, which they refuse to fix in Firefox apparently out of spite.
#18574 - The MNG bug... you really have to see this farce with your own eyes. Especially the bit where the asshole in charge of the image code stated that the MNG DLL has to fit within his deliberately impossible to reach size requirements before he'd even consider re-adding it. -
Re:Apple is Evil. (Links)
How hard would it have been to include the URLs?
#324253, a cross site XSS exploit which nobody responsible for the code seems to care about.
#45375, a request to make tooltips not cut off at an arbritrary length, which they refuse to fix in Firefox apparently out of spite.
#18574 - The MNG bug... you really have to see this farce with your own eyes. Especially the bit where the asshole in charge of the image code stated that the MNG DLL has to fit within his deliberately impossible to reach size requirements before he'd even consider re-adding it. -
Re:Apple is Evil. (Links)
How hard would it have been to include the URLs?
#324253, a cross site XSS exploit which nobody responsible for the code seems to care about.
#45375, a request to make tooltips not cut off at an arbritrary length, which they refuse to fix in Firefox apparently out of spite.
#18574 - The MNG bug... you really have to see this farce with your own eyes. Especially the bit where the asshole in charge of the image code stated that the MNG DLL has to fit within his deliberately impossible to reach size requirements before he'd even consider re-adding it. -
Re:I have an idea
This very much could be a step in the direction they already took.
Doesn't have to be. Actually, this idea has already been done, and done beautifully. It was called OEOne Homebase Desktop. It was a complete desktop environment built on XUL, and incidentally "XUL desktop environment" is the appropriate name for something like this. "Mozilla" is either the foundation or the former browser suite built on XUL. XUL is the platform.
So, you can see what the OEOne desktop looked like if you search Google images for oeone or oeone homebase. It was a fully integrated environment, which means mail, calendar, contacts, browser, text processor, image album, music and video player, basically everything you'd need for your basic office/home desktop.
OEOne still appears in the Mozilla Hall of Fame as such, even though they renamed themselves Axentra.com at some point. The Homebase desktop still appears in their press releases up to 2002, then it was released as open source as the Penzilla Desktop and abandoned as far as OEOne was concerned. But while it ran it also sponsored a few other developments, such as AbiMoz, which integrates AbiWord inside Mozilla.
Homebase wasn't a "traditional", "generic" desktop, but more of a specialized environment, aimed specifically at office productivity and entertainment. It had a "home page" which aggregated news, weather, contacts, new mail and whatnot. It would have been ideal for PDA's. I never understood why it was so poorly publicized and why it seems to have missed so many trains. -
Re:I have an idea
This very much could be a step in the direction they already took.
Doesn't have to be. Actually, this idea has already been done, and done beautifully. It was called OEOne Homebase Desktop. It was a complete desktop environment built on XUL, and incidentally "XUL desktop environment" is the appropriate name for something like this. "Mozilla" is either the foundation or the former browser suite built on XUL. XUL is the platform.
So, you can see what the OEOne desktop looked like if you search Google images for oeone or oeone homebase. It was a fully integrated environment, which means mail, calendar, contacts, browser, text processor, image album, music and video player, basically everything you'd need for your basic office/home desktop.
OEOne still appears in the Mozilla Hall of Fame as such, even though they renamed themselves Axentra.com at some point. The Homebase desktop still appears in their press releases up to 2002, then it was released as open source as the Penzilla Desktop and abandoned as far as OEOne was concerned. But while it ran it also sponsored a few other developments, such as AbiMoz, which integrates AbiWord inside Mozilla.
Homebase wasn't a "traditional", "generic" desktop, but more of a specialized environment, aimed specifically at office productivity and entertainment. It had a "home page" which aggregated news, weather, contacts, new mail and whatnot. It would have been ideal for PDA's. I never understood why it was so poorly publicized and why it seems to have missed so many trains. -
Re:Think of the memory
and please, split off gecko from Mozilla, so that its a separate library.
That would be XULRunner. Firefox 3 is planned to use it. -
CSS on desktop applications
Despite very relevant performance concerns, I certainly wouldn't mind being able to use CSS to style every applications look.
It's something I've been wishing for ever since I found Stylish for Firefox. I've tweaked just about every page I visit on a regular basis. -
Re:Translation...
Read over the EcmaScript 4 work-in-progress proposal and see what you think:
http://developer.mozilla.org/es4/
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Re:discrimination against other media players?
"...so how am I to enjoy this feat of modern technology from a LINUX desktop."
Mmm, nothing like the smell of proprietary codecs on the open web. You can do it. One approach is to get xine from here and add the w32codec-0.52-1.i386.rpm. And get the MediaPlayerConnectivity plugin for Firefox and you should be able to view it. -
Modern day delphi
XULRunner = HTML, js, canvas and SVG.
Java is under the GPL and other stuff like HaXe is also free.
Where does that leave this proprietary crud? I have a love/hate relationship with Adobe, mostly hate since they acquired Macromedia. -
I suggested this to Mozilla in 2004...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2589
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The background loading thing that Opera also does is of course new. -
Re:Shark Jumping
If you're using Firefox 2, you can create your own OpenSearch Plugin.
I was lazy, and couldnt be bothered doing it myself, so I used IE7 Add search providers functionality... and clicked on the 'View XML' link.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<OpenSearchDescription xmlns="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/">
<ShortName>GoogleUK</ShortName>
<Description>GoogleUK provider</Description>
<InputEncoding>UTF-8</InputEncoding><Url type="text/html" template="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en& ;q={searchTerms}&meta="/>
</OpenSearchDescrip tion>Note that
/. is screwing with the code above, so it may not work if you copy/paste, and that firefox doesnt seem to want to open the 'View XML' link... but IETab fixes that problem. You can also add a fancy little icon by following the format on the OpenSearch page linked aboveThen you just put the XML into the searchplugins directory... something like (if you're using Windows):
C:\Documents and Settings\[UserName]\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\[ProfileName]\searc
h pluginsAnd Robert is your mother's brother.
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The Firefox team has a better policy...?
The Firefox team somehow has a better policy about this type of bug than the OpenBSD team. Denial-of-service bugs that show signs of memory corruption are considered the same as actual remote code execution exploits, even if no method of executing code is known. (Of course, "remote code execution" in Firefox means visiting a malicious website.) Such exploits appear in red on this page along with the direct exploits: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vu
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Firefox can already anonymize Google
If you're worried about privacy, I recommend Firefox and the Customize Google extension. I'm also a fan of Googlepedia.
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Firefox can already anonymize Google
If you're worried about privacy, I recommend Firefox and the Customize Google extension. I'm also a fan of Googlepedia.
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Re:HTML vs. Javascript: W3C analysis
This TAG finding is all the more reason for the W3C to support declarative approaches to markup, which allow you to express intent in markup, and leave another level to convert that intent to presentation. This approach starts at the top with technologies such as CSS, but the need for dynamic pages is better addressed by recent additions such as XBL (here's an example in mozilla -- think of it as like CSS but binding to script instead of to a fixed set of attributes) and XForms (think of it as a 3-layer model for the web page -- data, logic, and presentation).
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Re:Still won't use opera.
Don't get me wrong, I still have Firefox around, I just choose not to use it as my main browsing experience.
The other reason is that they won't implement things just because other browsers do it that way. Did you know that Firefox is the only major browser that does <map> tags differently under text/html than text/xhtml+xml for the same page?
And that the Mozilla devs won't even consider changing this behavior? -
Re:Speaking of "Next"...
Am I the only one who thinks this would be a good idea?
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Re:Still won't use opera.
It's one of the oldest bugs in Bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915
(It's marked helpwanted, so it looks like it'll remain for even longer)
More on IE support for columns:
http://ln.hixie.ch/?count=1&start=1070385285 -
Re:Still won't use opera.
Have no fear, it's Bug #915. (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915 - you'll have to copy-paste since Bugzilla blocks Slashdot referers.)
It's been open since September 1998, almost as long as the spec has been published. It's marked as blocking the release of Mozilla 1.3, so once that gets released, ... oh.
Well, now it's marked blocking Mozilla 1.9, so once that gets released, ... oh.
Well... at least it's in there. And has been for almost 10 years. -
Add Nuke Anything Enhanced to that list
. . . and if some little annoying item should happen to make it through all of those filters, just nuke it.
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Re:g and r
It's actually incredibly easy to create your own search keywords in Firefox, too. I've had 'gis' mapped to Google Image Search for years now, for example.
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Re:Needed: Nuke Everything Else
Another alternative for content display is the GreaseMonkey extension, coupled with Platypus. Using the Platypus Remove and Set-Style buttons allows you to remove/resize text & images, in effect redesigning the web page to suite your needs.
GreaseMonkey
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Re:Needed: Nuke Everything Else
Another alternative for content display is the GreaseMonkey extension, coupled with Platypus. Using the Platypus Remove and Set-Style buttons allows you to remove/resize text & images, in effect redesigning the web page to suite your needs.
GreaseMonkey
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Other ones
Other good ones are GraphicsEx, which lets you save a page as an image - like a screen grab but it gets the whole page - really useful for web designers/developers and text/plain that let's you highlight a URL in text and open it in another tab/window.
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Re:For those without Adblock
Perhaps even more on topic for this site is the Slashdotter extension, which not only automatically adds the various cache links to article links, but tells you when you have mod points.
Does other cool stuff for slashbots too... -
Re:Some of Mine:
I used to use Web Developer Ext. for Firefox, but ever since discovering FireBug https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1843/ it blows WDE away. Give it a try, it is great.
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Web developer list
Console2 - improved javascript error console
Greasemonkey - inject your own javascript
livehttpheaders - capture headers
WebDeveloper - major toolbox
HtmlValidator - based on HTML Tidy, validates HTML as your view pages -
Re:Adblock?
The only content filtering/editing that I have running(on top of popup blocking) is Flashblock.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/
I also have nuke anything enhanced:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/951/
and plain text links:
http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/textlink/
installed, in addition to a bunch of bookmarklets:
http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/
http://1024k.de/bookmarklets/video-bookmarklets.ht ml
Flash is annoying, and I like to be able to edit what I am looking at in lots of ways, but I don't like the feeling I get of not seeing what is being presented when automatic filtering goes on. I experimented with privoxy at one point, had the same feeling, and also got sick of it breaking things. So yes, I mostly avoid ads by avoiding sites that run ads, and as a result, I see lots of ads. -
Re:Adblock?
The only content filtering/editing that I have running(on top of popup blocking) is Flashblock.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/
I also have nuke anything enhanced:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/951/
and plain text links:
http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/textlink/
installed, in addition to a bunch of bookmarklets:
http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/
http://1024k.de/bookmarklets/video-bookmarklets.ht ml
Flash is annoying, and I like to be able to edit what I am looking at in lots of ways, but I don't like the feeling I get of not seeing what is being presented when automatic filtering goes on. I experimented with privoxy at one point, had the same feeling, and also got sick of it breaking things. So yes, I mostly avoid ads by avoiding sites that run ads, and as a result, I see lots of ads. -
Re:20 is too many
You're an island amongst yourself. If there was a desire for a non-tabbed browser, then someone would have forked firefox to have one.
Don't be a cock.
Many if not most extensions exist to fulfill a niche desire. Forking Firefox isn't neccesary.
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Re:Extensions
Tiny Menu is a really good idea, unless you've got FoxyTunes to control your music player. I think FoxyTunes defaults to the bottom of the browser window. Well I don't like that because I'm too likely to pop up the Start menu bar by accident. So I dragged FoxyTunes up to fill all that space next to Firefox's menu.
Instead of Unread Tabs, I suggest Tab Mix Plus. It adds lots of Tab functionality, and it lets the font of unread tabs be any color the user wants. I find italics are harder to read, but Tab Mix Plus would let me do that if I wanted to, along with Bold, and Underline as well. -
My must havesMoji and Moji-en Japanese dictionary in Firefox.
ASpellFox My spelling sucks, before FF2.0 this was my best way to avoid misspelling 'the' every other post.
BugMeNot This really should be built into the browser now.
NoScript White list for javascript, everything is default blocked till you tell it otherwise.
User Agent Switcher Fun for masquerading as a Nintendo Wii, or any other browser.
Leet Key Ever been around a usenet group where ROT13ing Cisco was a safe way to not announce where you work at? Me either, but this has some fun uses.
Close Button I prefer the single 'close the current focused tab' button from FF 1.6
DOM Inspector andWeb Developer If you either develop webpages, or visit really buggy ones, these can be very useful. -
My must havesMoji and Moji-en Japanese dictionary in Firefox.
ASpellFox My spelling sucks, before FF2.0 this was my best way to avoid misspelling 'the' every other post.
BugMeNot This really should be built into the browser now.
NoScript White list for javascript, everything is default blocked till you tell it otherwise.
User Agent Switcher Fun for masquerading as a Nintendo Wii, or any other browser.
Leet Key Ever been around a usenet group where ROT13ing Cisco was a safe way to not announce where you work at? Me either, but this has some fun uses.
Close Button I prefer the single 'close the current focused tab' button from FF 1.6
DOM Inspector andWeb Developer If you either develop webpages, or visit really buggy ones, these can be very useful. -
My must havesMoji and Moji-en Japanese dictionary in Firefox.
ASpellFox My spelling sucks, before FF2.0 this was my best way to avoid misspelling 'the' every other post.
BugMeNot This really should be built into the browser now.
NoScript White list for javascript, everything is default blocked till you tell it otherwise.
User Agent Switcher Fun for masquerading as a Nintendo Wii, or any other browser.
Leet Key Ever been around a usenet group where ROT13ing Cisco was a safe way to not announce where you work at? Me either, but this has some fun uses.
Close Button I prefer the single 'close the current focused tab' button from FF 1.6
DOM Inspector andWeb Developer If you either develop webpages, or visit really buggy ones, these can be very useful. -
My must havesMoji and Moji-en Japanese dictionary in Firefox.
ASpellFox My spelling sucks, before FF2.0 this was my best way to avoid misspelling 'the' every other post.
BugMeNot This really should be built into the browser now.
NoScript White list for javascript, everything is default blocked till you tell it otherwise.
User Agent Switcher Fun for masquerading as a Nintendo Wii, or any other browser.
Leet Key Ever been around a usenet group where ROT13ing Cisco was a safe way to not announce where you work at? Me either, but this has some fun uses.
Close Button I prefer the single 'close the current focused tab' button from FF 1.6
DOM Inspector andWeb Developer If you either develop webpages, or visit really buggy ones, these can be very useful. -
My must havesMoji and Moji-en Japanese dictionary in Firefox.
ASpellFox My spelling sucks, before FF2.0 this was my best way to avoid misspelling 'the' every other post.
BugMeNot This really should be built into the browser now.
NoScript White list for javascript, everything is default blocked till you tell it otherwise.
User Agent Switcher Fun for masquerading as a Nintendo Wii, or any other browser.
Leet Key Ever been around a usenet group where ROT13ing Cisco was a safe way to not announce where you work at? Me either, but this has some fun uses.
Close Button I prefer the single 'close the current focused tab' button from FF 1.6
DOM Inspector andWeb Developer If you either develop webpages, or visit really buggy ones, these can be very useful. -
My must havesMoji and Moji-en Japanese dictionary in Firefox.
ASpellFox My spelling sucks, before FF2.0 this was my best way to avoid misspelling 'the' every other post.
BugMeNot This really should be built into the browser now.
NoScript White list for javascript, everything is default blocked till you tell it otherwise.
User Agent Switcher Fun for masquerading as a Nintendo Wii, or any other browser.
Leet Key Ever been around a usenet group where ROT13ing Cisco was a safe way to not announce where you work at? Me either, but this has some fun uses.
Close Button I prefer the single 'close the current focused tab' button from FF 1.6
DOM Inspector andWeb Developer If you either develop webpages, or visit really buggy ones, these can be very useful.