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I like your list! Here are some other great bands I've found through mp3.com:

• Squishy A great psychedelic band that reminds me of a cross between The Orb and Jimi Hendrix
• 303-Reactor Great hard techno
• Acid Revolution Great house
• Phero Check out "Long Time No Sea"
• The Mourning Angel Great Ambient!
• Alien Signal More ambient
• DNA Trance It's so good it shouldn't be called "House"
• P.N.E.D. ITo and dj Dr. Wundt Kind of experimental but some great stuff here
• Red Delicious The only alternative band to make this list, Red Delicious has an amazing female vocalist and catchy tunes

It's no surprise that electronic music is the most popular genre on MP3.com, simply because I think it's a lot easier to make good electronic music than to make good guitar rock or pop. In particular, my biggest turn-off is hearing an otherwise good song marred by off-key vocals, which is far too easy to do. There are some exceptions to the rule, for example Red Delicious.

There are even some amusing (both tasteless and geek) humor tracks listed. Here are some you might enjoy if you aren't easily offended:

• Fresh Drippin' Okay, these guys are a little obsessed with semen, but who isn't? :) Check out "Cum Commercial" and "Anti-Drug Commercial" for a representative sample..
• Test of Time How could you not like a band who writes songs like "I Crashed Windows NT" and "The AOL Song"?

So, not all music on mp3.com sucks, just most of it..

I like your list! Here are some other great bands I've found through mp3.com:

• Squishy A great psychedelic band that reminds me of a cross between The Orb and Jimi Hendrix
• 303-Reactor Great hard techno
• Acid Revolution Great house
• Phero Check out "Long Time No Sea"
• The Mourning Angel Great Ambient!
• Alien Signal More ambient
• DNA Trance It's so good it shouldn't be called "House"
• P.N.E.D. ITo and dj Dr. Wundt Kind of experimental but some great stuff here
• Red Delicious The only alternative band to make this list, Red Delicious has an amazing female vocalist and catchy tunes

It's no surprise that electronic music is the most popular genre on MP3.com, simply because I think it's a lot easier to make good electronic music than to make good guitar rock or pop. In particular, my biggest turn-off is hearing an otherwise good song marred by off-key vocals, which is far too easy to do. There are some exceptions to the rule, for example Red Delicious.

There are even some amusing (both tasteless and geek) humor tracks listed. Here are some you might enjoy if you aren't easily offended:

• Fresh Drippin' Okay, these guys are a little obsessed with semen, but who isn't? :) Check out "Cum Commercial" and "Anti-Drug Commercial" for a representative sample..
• Test of Time How could you not like a band who writes songs like "I Crashed Windows NT" and "The AOL Song"?

So, not all music on mp3.com sucks, just most of it..

I like your list! Here are some other great bands I've found through mp3.com:

• Squishy A great psychedelic band that reminds me of a cross between The Orb and Jimi Hendrix
• 303-Reactor Great hard techno
• Acid Revolution Great house
• Phero Check out "Long Time No Sea"
• The Mourning Angel Great Ambient!
• Alien Signal More ambient
• DNA Trance It's so good it shouldn't be called "House"
• P.N.E.D. ITo and dj Dr. Wundt Kind of experimental but some great stuff here
• Red Delicious The only alternative band to make this list, Red Delicious has an amazing female vocalist and catchy tunes

It's no surprise that electronic music is the most popular genre on MP3.com, simply because I think it's a lot easier to make good electronic music than to make good guitar rock or pop. In particular, my biggest turn-off is hearing an otherwise good song marred by off-key vocals, which is far too easy to do. There are some exceptions to the rule, for example Red Delicious.

There are even some amusing (both tasteless and geek) humor tracks listed. Here are some you might enjoy if you aren't easily offended:

• Fresh Drippin' Okay, these guys are a little obsessed with semen, but who isn't? :) Check out "Cum Commercial" and "Anti-Drug Commercial" for a representative sample..
• Test of Time How could you not like a band who writes songs like "I Crashed Windows NT" and "The AOL Song"?

So, not all music on mp3.com sucks, just most of it..

I like your list! Here are some other great bands I've found through mp3.com:

• Squishy A great psychedelic band that reminds me of a cross between The Orb and Jimi Hendrix
• 303-Reactor Great hard techno
• Acid Revolution Great house
• Phero Check out "Long Time No Sea"
• The Mourning Angel Great Ambient!
• Alien Signal More ambient
• DNA Trance It's so good it shouldn't be called "House"
• P.N.E.D. ITo and dj Dr. Wundt Kind of experimental but some great stuff here
• Red Delicious The only alternative band to make this list, Red Delicious has an amazing female vocalist and catchy tunes

It's no surprise that electronic music is the most popular genre on MP3.com, simply because I think it's a lot easier to make good electronic music than to make good guitar rock or pop. In particular, my biggest turn-off is hearing an otherwise good song marred by off-key vocals, which is far too easy to do. There are some exceptions to the rule, for example Red Delicious.

There are even some amusing (both tasteless and geek) humor tracks listed. Here are some you might enjoy if you aren't easily offended:

• Fresh Drippin' Okay, these guys are a little obsessed with semen, but who isn't? :) Check out "Cum Commercial" and "Anti-Drug Commercial" for a representative sample..
• Test of Time How could you not like a band who writes songs like "I Crashed Windows NT" and "The AOL Song"?

So, not all music on mp3.com sucks, just most of it..

I like your list! Here are some other great bands I've found through mp3.com:

• Squishy A great psychedelic band that reminds me of a cross between The Orb and Jimi Hendrix
• 303-Reactor Great hard techno
• Acid Revolution Great house
• Phero Check out "Long Time No Sea"
• The Mourning Angel Great Ambient!
• Alien Signal More ambient
• DNA Trance It's so good it shouldn't be called "House"
• P.N.E.D. ITo and dj Dr. Wundt Kind of experimental but some great stuff here
• Red Delicious The only alternative band to make this list, Red Delicious has an amazing female vocalist and catchy tunes

It's no surprise that electronic music is the most popular genre on MP3.com, simply because I think it's a lot easier to make good electronic music than to make good guitar rock or pop. In particular, my biggest turn-off is hearing an otherwise good song marred by off-key vocals, which is far too easy to do. There are some exceptions to the rule, for example Red Delicious.

There are even some amusing (both tasteless and geek) humor tracks listed. Here are some you might enjoy if you aren't easily offended:

• Fresh Drippin' Okay, these guys are a little obsessed with semen, but who isn't? :) Check out "Cum Commercial" and "Anti-Drug Commercial" for a representative sample..
• Test of Time How could you not like a band who writes songs like "I Crashed Windows NT" and "The AOL Song"?

So, not all music on mp3.com sucks, just most of it..

Unfortunately, I was under the impression that if you ordered the CD, you'd get the music at full CD quality, which you could then MP3 encode at whatever bitrate you want. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this is simply not the case. MP3.com seems to burn their DAM CD's from the exact same MP3 files that you can download, which is really unfortunate, because it means that you aren't getting any additional audio quality from buying the CD (although in same cases you'll get songs that you can't download online, as some artists put some of their songs only on the CD).

As soon as MP3.com starts burning DAM CD's from original sources, I'll be a lot happier. In the meantime, I'll still buy DAM CD's of artists that I like (e.g. Squishy, Red Delicious) to encourage them to keep making music!

Unfortunately, I was under the impression that if you ordered the CD, you'd get the music at full CD quality, which you could then MP3 encode at whatever bitrate you want. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this is simply not the case. MP3.com seems to burn their DAM CD's from the exact same MP3 files that you can download, which is really unfortunate, because it means that you aren't getting any additional audio quality from buying the CD (although in same cases you'll get songs that you can't download online, as some artists put some of their songs only on the CD).

As soon as MP3.com starts burning DAM CD's from original sources, I'll be a lot happier. In the meantime, I'll still buy DAM CD's of artists that I like (e.g. Squishy, Red Delicious) to encourage them to keep making music!

So, it took me a while before I made WAV files from my 4 track demo tapes and opted to make MP3 files to put up my music on MP3.com. Before this I had made Real Audio versions only and put them on my personal web site.

The reasons for this are that I thought, by keeping my music files in Real Audio format, I could reach a larger listening base (like 4 more people ;) ). But, I broke down and got the Blade encoder and went to work putting things up on my MP3.Com sight. I noticed when I looked back at my web logs that there was way more interest in the downloading of my MP3's than the listening and browsing of my Real Audio files.

This is because the sound is quite a bit different going from a RA encoder set to 28.8 stereo to 128 bit rate 44.1KHz samples. It is also because I had never let people have MP3's to download on my own site.

What MP3.com meant to me was a chance to have a little rack of music store space out there that someone might be able to browse past one day. And I know my stuff is not something cranked out of a studio with million dollar gear... so the price (free) is for real. I made a DAM cd but I wish there was an option just to make them free vs. a bottom line price of $5.99.

I like their site and I like the idea. I could spend my whole day there listening to people's new songs.

If you remember one of the concepts in the old Max Headroom TV show: in the future everyone has a TV channel and although some/most of it sucks... everyone has a chance to broadcast it. MP3.com and my own web site brought a variant on that premise to life for me.

"You cannot uncook Mushoo pork once is has been cooked" -- wiseman

I agree.

Check out that master zap is one of the people who are mentuned in the upside article. He talks about the lacklaster sales of his D.A.Ms.

totaly off topic though: I like MZ mostly for stomper, and less for his music (and even less for the very flashy and annoying web site he has..)
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Well.. My original post got edited somewhat (for good reason - it was much too long.) One thing got snipped that I'm kind of sorry about:

Though I think the Upside article was a good read, and informative (aspecialy the weakness of D.A.M sales) I don't think that matters much.
I'm happy with Mp3.com and, as you can see, I have some of my own music there, too

the Upside article raises some interesting issues but most of them are not really that important anyway:

The D.A.M program is only one revenue source for Mp3.com - for one (there are others like adds which probably generate more revenue for Mp3.com)

The quality of (artists) music is also starting to get solved - by brinnging in major artists into the fray (for some pre-ipo shares.. and options) and that good artists get more coverage. Mp3.com recently broke the music into geners and there is coverage of artist on genere basis- the good artist will get noticed.

I like to think what will happen after the IPO.. You are going to have MP3.com have a very high market cap and cash transfution which will allow them to sign up some very high quality artists (artists between contracts, for one). A lot of musicians will love to jump on the Mp3.com bandwagon becoase:

a) they will get good pay.
b) most hate the "normal" music industry, anyway.

As for the accusation upside makes that most of the people that are visiting Mp3.com are the artists them selves.. I think thats a stretch. I don't buy it. the first thing newbees look for is Mp3's.. and it's logical the first place they go to will be Mp3.com (that URL is Mp3.com biggest assette..)


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Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

Upside is right about one thing--most music on MP3.COM is horrible. If you look carefully, however, you'll find some great bands--and some aren't not even popular yet!

Check out these bands: Ghost in the Machine, Trance Control, Beat Symphony (my favourite), Jumalatar, Universal Groove, Master Zap, DJ Wild, and Joeb the Man.

Of course, you'll like these bands if you like the music genres that I like. I believe these are most talented of the dance-trance-goa-club bunch, though.

I, and Upside, ment the quality of the actual music. Read the article. It's a good read.

There is another interesting point.. Who is qualified to ditermain what is Hi-quality music anyway..
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I'm in too..

And if we are alwredy on that subject.. I'm willing to invest in blockstackers. I'm serious here.. But this is offtopic.
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I perfectly understand your point that if you're wanting to make a living from being in a band, you're going to have to draw the line somewhere between giving away stuff and charging for it, but firstly I don't think the RIAA is entirely interested in that- secondly, places like mp3.com give lots of exposure to countless thousands of really good bands/artists who have no record contract, and is thus a potential benefit to the music industry!!! If the RIAA is trying to curb open standards like MP3, what on earth is going to happen to sites like this? And what about people like me who do music for a hobby?

I know quite a lot of musicians myself, and they're impressed with the possibilities of the legit mp3 scene, particularly mp3.com's idea of letting you sell CD albums online (without needing a record contract...), and the people I talk to regularly on the mp3.com bbs are generally very aware of the various business and promotion issues involved in the music business...

OK enough talk, check out my music at http://www.mp3.com/asm/!!!! ;)

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I perfectly understand your point that if you're wanting to make a living from being in a band, you're going to have to draw the line somewhere between giving away stuff and charging for it, but firstly I don't think the RIAA is entirely interested in that- secondly, places like mp3.com give lots of exposure to countless thousands of really good bands/artists who have no record contract, and is thus a potential benefit to the music industry!!! If the RIAA is trying to curb open standards like MP3, what on earth is going to happen to sites like this? And what about people like me who do music for a hobby?

I know quite a lot of musicians myself, and they're impressed with the possibilities of the legit mp3 scene, particularly mp3.com's idea of letting you sell CD albums online (without needing a record contract...), and the people I talk to regularly on the mp3.com bbs are generally very aware of the various business and promotion issues involved in the music business...

OK enough talk, check out my music at http://www.mp3.com/asm/!!!! ;)

Old Fart!

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Yum!
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I agree.

Motorola is in a very good position to buy AMD (which is in a very bad position). It makes a lot of sense for a variaty of reasons. also IBM should consider buying AMD.

it's interesting that AMD's stock is so low that ARM has nearly the same market cap as AMD. this is funny since ARM has no FABs.

come to think about the FABs that AMD have alone are worth more then their current market cap.
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I remember reading about Boing developing a system that combines this type of eye-display and a computer envirement that lets a techniction wire electrical componants in a plain.

The computer screen is aligned with real life and it highlights which wires go where.

I wonder if this has been developed further (I remember reading about it three or four years ago)

In my view these types of aplications- synergy of real life and CGI are is the real future of VR. think about playing Quake V in your living room. where monsters are hiding in the kitchen.
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mp3.com has had a list of this sort of technology up for ages. I'm building one myself (who isn't? :) ), but I'm buggered if I'm spending that much on an LCD display. There must be a cheaper way of doing it that involves too much hardware spannering.

a interesting thing is that the size of the new 640 file is 25 meg, the same as the privious highest quality file.

nice.
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> (who am I kidding! I couldn't pay the electricity bill to run 128 P2s!)

look at the bright side..

at least you'll not need to worry about heating bills. :-)
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As would be expected, artists are seeing the benefits of mp3 and internet-based distribution long before the recording companies.
After all, who wants to pay large slices of their profits in licensing fees and other schmuck to some faceless PR mega-institution.
Here's a story About Ice-T's newest single that he's releasing over the net in mp3 format. Interesting that rap artists seem to be some of the more vocal supporters of mp3 and free distribution.
I may have to start listening to more rap music...

Lets See

Chuck D. and Public Enemy

The Beastie Boys

Sigue Sigue Sputnik

Ice T Who offers his newest only as MP3

Tom Petty

The Artist Formerly Known As The Artist Formerly Known As Prince


And this is about twenty seconds of looking,in one publication (links are to the articles) but all these poor garage bands who'll never get a real gig. Right ? Hell the beastie boys are streaming MP3s........

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I wrote this as a reply to crigley (too bad the message board on his site stink):


I think traditional MP3 is going to rule the waves for a long time to
come.

the reason is that mp3 is everywhere.

and I when I say "everywhere" I mean it in more then one way:

1) everywhere - IE on all major computing platforms. apple/mac/unix
apple is putting it into QT4 (so every mac will have it). Even microsoft
can't bring out new software that works for all platforms at once (linux
users will not touch it even if they did, and apple users will use QT4
instead, anyway.. and it will be announced at nab this weekend, as you
probably know)

2) everywhere - on all portable players (I find it hard to believe that
the casio machine you mention is not going to include traditional MP3
functionality, will it?).
Hardware manufacturers are going to shoot them selves in the foot for
not including traditional mp3, no one is going to leave out 99% of the
market.

3) everywhere - and the most important factor: content.

MP3 content is BIG. And I don't mean just pirated stuff. I mean
original material (BTW, that is the biggest error in your analysis). MP3
is being branded as the "medium of piracy" by the RIAA, record company
execs, and by record company PR (as well as the companies that want to
exploit digital media for their own uses like IBM and AT&T). But that is
crock.

My estimate is that from all Mp3 downloads at least 50% are legit.
>From Mp3.com, goodnoise.com, at all. The artists that published on this
sites (including me BTW) are fast coming to the realization that record
companies can't stand a chance against this - Unless they get with the
program and support mp3. They are more afraid of loosing the control
over the artists then loosing some spare change from piracy, and for
good reason.

In the record business there is one universal truth: the artists hate
the record companies. Well.. most of them do. music production is
becoming cheaper and cheaper and yet CD prices keep climbing. And Only a
few artists actually make money from record sales (AFAIK, most make
their living from gigs).

the rise of Mp3 is a chance for musicians to take control over their
own music distribution through sites like mp3.com. the primary source of
revenue for musicians I think will not be from direct sales of music.

I believe it will be from advertising.

http://www.amp3.com is doing just that - paying artists per download
while they get money from advertising. I think that is going to be the
model that will work in future since it will make everybody happy. and
record companies currently don't fit into this model.

The big differentiating factor record companies have from individual
musicians and mp3 sites that house artists like mp3.com is basically PR
power, connections, and capital power. All of these can be summed in one
word: MONEY. record companies have more of it.

that's going to change when mp3.com IPO's hits wallstreet in the face.
I'm pretty sure it's going to brake the records when it happens sometime
this year. sequoia, as you know, are not dumb, they are not in the habit
of giving 11 million dollars in VC for no reason.
Microsoft is FUDing the scene, and you should be more aware of this.
The reason is to hit Mp3.com and co. not IBM (who are dead already in
this market, and so is at&t)

I also find it hard to believe that Inet portal sites will not jump
into the fray at one point or other. Record company execs will be lured
over by head hunters, and PR firms will be hired who have experience in
the record market (some of the biggest acts use PR companies, not record
company PR, btw..)

some big name artist who might be free from contractual agreements at
the time will be lured over to, say, mp3.com or mp3.yahoo.com for stock
options or cash or what ever.

so what will happen to the record companies?

they might get swallowed by the portals. or realize that there is more
money in the ads, and convert to mp3 altogether). I just don't see
anyone buying music on line.

another thing.. you say, microsoft's standard has a better encoding
ratio and better quality..

since when has anything "better" meant anything in the high-tech
industry (especially involving microsoft)..?

the biggest reason this is not going to make much difference is that
MP3 content is hugh. that's it. game over. in much the same way as
microsoft beat apple in the os wars. there is more software. in favor of
MP3 there is more players, more hardware, more encoders, more tools, and
most importantly: more people who can listen to it.

and anyway: MP3 is good enough for most people. a 1:2 ratio is not
going to make the difference since it is basically on the same scale.

but off coase.. I could be wrong.


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The Nomad is the exact same product as the Yepp was supposed to be. It has the same features and looks and for some reason samsung has given it to creative. A couple of weeks ago, MP3.com showed pictures of the nomad from a Music and Internet expo in New York and it looked much different from the yepp, in fact, much better. I hear that that model will also be released at a later date.

See screenshots of the original nomad at mp3.com here... Nomad Pictures

Creative say they will release the story behind y nomad now is yepp once the player is in stores.

The Nomad is the exact same product as the Yepp was supposed to be. It has the same features and looks and for some reason samsung has given it to creative. A couple of weeks ago, MP3.com showed pictures of the nomad from a Music and Internet expo in New York and it looked much different from the yepp, in fact, much better. I hear that that model will also be released at a later date.

See screenshots of the original nomad at mp3.com here... Nomad Pictures

Creative say they will release the story behind y nomad now is yepp once the player is in stores.

It's sad to see that the pipe logo has been surgically removed from the sgi site. it makes me want to go to Mountain View and insert a large pipe into Belluzo's tail pipe.

DAMN! that logo was COOL.


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hehe.

I guess this is the true victory of slashdot, a higher ranking then all of zdnets sites together. Aint that cool?

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If you want some instances of bands giving away some of their intellectual property and profiting from it, just look at touring bands like Dave Matthews Band, Phish, the late Grateful Dead, etc.

Though I don't really like many of these bands, I do respect the fact that they let people tape their live shows and distribute them freely because it simply spread them further than a proprietary viewpoint would have.

And as for people being lazy, so be it. Most creative people create because they want to. I make music because it makes me happy- I write code because it makes me happy. Why shouldn't I let other people enjoy my music too? Does it make it any less of a creative outlet? Would I feel more fulfilled if I were writing proprietary code or if my soul were owned by a record company? I actually get more enjoyment out of opening up my music and my code and sharing them with the community. Intellectual property is outdated and useless, get over it.

Getting on the top 40 chart at mp3.com is sure to garner some attention.

--Bitscape

The answer to the above paradox is pretty obvious... Economic interest might be important, but it isn't the only thing that matters!!!!!! Do you think that when people use audio tape that every time they use it, it's for a wholly economic reason!??!?!

Secondly, the format is seperate from the digital music sales market... A much more suitable format might be developed for online music sales, and people would use that, as well as MP3!

In any case, if you want to see if people are willing to pay or make money from MP3s, he should look at MJuice (Consumers pay $1 for downloads), Amp3.com (Ads tacked onto MP3s make money for artists), and even Mp3.com... (Artists can make CDs from their uploaded MP3s and get a cut of the sales...) Notice the amount of artists on these sites... Sounds like a dead format, eh!??!

By the way, can we please stop this "college boy" nonsense. Either our anonymous cretin is, or was, a "college boy" himself, in which case, he is a completely hyprocitical "college boy", or he isn't, in which case, how do we know he's not just being jealous, or more for that matter, talking rubbish about something he doesn't really know about? (The latter seems more likely.)

And please remember that countries outside the US (Please remember that they exist- we'll soon outnumber the US on the Internet...) don't neccessarily have such a "sink or swim" attitude to funding of higher education- there are quite a few lower-income students in Europe, whose parents have not "forked over money" (What sort of English is that?) to enable them to study, who generally have to get part-time jobs in order to make ends meet- they have already "got a job", and have a much better idea of what life is really like than some flaming anonymous blowhard on Slashdot. ;)

According to a recent article on Wired (http://www.mp3.com) the artist gets about 10% of the cost of a CD from a major label. OTOH, if you upload a tune to mp3.com and use their CD production and distribution service, you get 50%. My band hasn't tried that yet, but we probably will when we do our CD this summer. I don't think that people should pirate CDs for mp3s but I think that places like mp3.com sound like a great way to by-pass the major labels with their legions of suit-wearing dirtbags. FWIW.

just got even more appropriate. :-)
I couldn't resist.
I think that TMBG and other music groups who are willing to take the risk of release mp3 albums will find themselves very happy. A amateur musicain friend of mine would never had gotten the audience he has if it wasn't for mp3's and sites like Mp3.com

MP3 (Cool let's steal music)

Ahem. That's cool let's buy music or cool let's legally download music.

I agree with this guy's comments about the ability of MP3's to get your music out there.... I am an unsigned artist too, with few hopes of getting my music heard - but now I've got people from all over the world listening to my music! That's pretty damn cool. Hey guys! Don't forget about another great site - www.Brainkick.com - The Unsigned Artists Consortium.....
It's not as big as MP3.Com, but the music there is quality stuff.

Cybergrrrrl (Siobahn Hotaling)
http://www.mp3.com/music/Folk/9117.html

I listen to a lot of music from mp3.com. Here are my Python scripts to manage my MP3 collection: http://wildgoose.tandu.com/~zooko/ PythonHacking/

Of course, 90% of the music on mp3.com is crap, but then, 90% of everything is crap..

Among the best mp3 selections are Goss amer and Manifest Vision.

Regards,

Zooko

I listen to a lot of music from mp3.com. Here are my Python scripts to manage my MP3 collection: http://wildgoose.tandu.com/~zooko/ PythonHacking/

Of course, 90% of the music on mp3.com is crap, but then, 90% of everything is crap..

Among the best mp3 selections are Goss amer and Manifest Vision.

Regards,

Zooko

I listen to a lot of music from mp3.com. Here are my Python scripts to manage my MP3 collection: http://wildgoose.tandu.com/~zooko/ PythonHacking/

Of course, 90% of the music on mp3.com is crap, but then, 90% of everything is crap..

Among the best mp3 selections are Goss amer and Manifest Vision.

Regards,

Zooko