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The first paper about Tcl on Mars that I saw was this one presented at the second Tcl/Tk workshop in 1994. Does that help?

Well, if we're going to get into it...

There also:
Sawfish which is written using rep, which is a lisp-dialect similar to elisp.

GWM, another lisp-based WM, dialect is called "WOOL" (Window Object Oriented Language). Interesting and old.

GwML, a WM written in O'Caml. You even get an emacs clone scriptable and written in O'Caml as part of the package!

Tkwm doesn't look maintained, for creating WMs (not just desktops, mind you) in Tcl/Tk.

There are straight-up X11 bindings for other languages, which could also be used for creating window managers, with the same method of doing so in C. Ruby and Squeak Smalltalk has them for sure.

A lot of people scoff at the idea of doing this, but frankly, I can't imagine how and why people deal with static, inconsistent environments. Having your parts of your system written in a dynamic language that you can grok means that you can make the changes to your enviornment when you want to. May seem stupid to a lot of computer users and self-proclaimed hax0rs, but for me, that is what makes a computer personal. Same reason people like emacs, I suppose.

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Thank you for your attention.

By the way, I was trying to be funny in my previous post, but now, after I've read Flexplay FAQ, I see that my comment was not funny at all, they're seriously advertising their technology pretty much in the same way... Now, that's funny!

The positive aspect of their success would be fact, that some people would have more garbage to collect, I guess.

The CDs are free. Take them all.

Once you have a few hundred of them, you can gather them together with the myriad AOL CDs in your drawer and enjoy a nice day of CD Craft Fun as suggested here, here and here.

Good luck.

-Rothfuss

I love choice, but part of me wishes that more effort would go into getting wxPython/wxWindows polished (and more fully cross-platform) to knock Tkinter from its status as defacto Python GUI.

Now, one thing that has been bugging me for a while is that Python only has one "official" GUI toolkit (Tkinter), even though there are a variety of toolkits available. Each toolkit has its own strengths and weaknesses -- so why has Guido chosen to only mention one of these toolkits on the Python Language Website ? It seems to me that by having a single "de facto" standard toolkit gives the impression that no workable alternatives exist, which will lead many people to conclude (as I initially did) that Python is unsuitable for GUI programming -- simply because the "de facto" standard toolkit appears to be the only one available, and was unsuitable for the particular project at hand.

Isn't this doing Python a dis-service? It seems to me that this idea of a single "standard" tookit smacks of a Microsoft-like attitude that there's only one OS/Word Processor/GUI toolkit you can use. With Python GUI programming, as with most things, there are many alternatives available -- each with its own advantages and disadvantages. So why not have a variety of supported toolkits, rather than supporting one to the exclusion of all the others?

Thanks,

- Erik.

"what do you *mean*, 'out of print' you sniveling twinkee-eating cockroach?", i queried the weird-harold lookalike.

i thought i was going to be sick. not for my lack of reading material but for some of the finest toon material ever to grace pulp, for a lost generation thinking that calvin had no peer. around the corner to the used bookstore. SEVEN OF NINE tomes for the obscenely low price of $35. i'm not sure what the cashier made of my wide-eyed dollar-waiving self.

this has brought me to one, inescapable conclusion. we must find berke, strap him to a suitable table and make him bring back the crew.

look, i'm completely cool with civility, but there comes a time when asking nice just isn't going to cut it. it's also clear that mr. breathed isn't exactly beyond using this tactic himself (see "toons for our times", pg. 59). no, i'm serious. i'm starting a website and an email campaign to petition the man to return to his sanity. he can ignore us at his own peril.

that having been said, some of his original strips are for sale - he has apparently given two years worth of strips to his stepmom and his full blessing to sell them. they can be found at:

http://www.neosoft.com/~bloom/avail1.htm

you need to have the original books to determine which are which, but ...who is going to buy one of these who doesn't have the books?! it isn't very clear, but the cheapo ones are $250 (they're in red), the regular ones are $400 and the color sunday strips are $900. the page also isn't clear on who you need to contact - carolynbreathed@hotmail.com. she seems like a very nice woman, but she does reply in ALL CAPS. be nice to her.

if any of you came through halfway and don't really know the whole gang, an exhaustive rundown can be found at http://www.droops.cybermail.net/bchistory/bchist19 81.html, covering the first appearance of limekiller to the ultimate, last toon.

finally, for anyone who doubts that illiad (respects || rips off) bloom county, please see this userfriendly.org toon..

not for my sake, but please mod the everyloving hell out of this post. i'd really like to see some of his toons get into the hands of fans.

My .02,

Not recycling, but here are a few things people have done with old CDs: 1, 2, 3, 4

There are two that I know of that try to emulate those features of their Windows counterpart:

Getleft - Three guesses as to what software their modeling after :)

DPS-FTP - DPS-FTP is an FTP client whose interface is loosely based on that of Bulletproof FTP. It has a transfer queue which allows multiple files from multiple directories on multiple sites to be uploaded and downloaded, in any order, and can automatically resume partially transferred files, among other features.