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Oops, it seems I've woken up a delusional Linux zealot Sorry /.. At least he's very amusing. See how nicely that fits? Oh if I wanted I could smack your ass around with the truth all day long, you see that is the nice thing about reality, you have the truth on your side, how about a teeny tiny taste?

How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of the latest Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

Now right there is a ton of links showing WHAT I HAVE SAID IS TRUE now can YOU do the same? Why no, instead you'll go "La la la I can't hear you, CLI gives me gonad powers and copypasta into a 70s term makes me leet! You must be an M$ Ninja!"

Now accept you are WRONG AND FULL OF SHIT and move on kid. Nobody cares or uses CLI or start>run in Windows except guys that ran DOS and have a raging case of nostalgia. Your OS CANNOT RUN WITHOUT CLI and frankly wouldn't last even a day without one in most cases.

I repeat, do you know what the definition of insanity is? Because here it is, 2011, and as I politely gave you the link to your numbers are worse than a shitty Java phone OS and the numbers don't lie. How big of a damned clue bat does someone have to smack you with before you accept that NOBODY WANTS CLI BUT NECKBEARDS and that a good 99.999998% of the population is NOT NECKBEARDS.

Accept it, give the customer what they want, or watch as they ignore your CLI heavy fiddly little mess. You see, that is the nice thing about a free market, we are free to NOT TAKE YOUR OS if it sucks or doesn't behave the way we want it to. you hang onto your CLI like a Tux blankie and see where your OS is in 5 years, because I'll tell you EXACTLY where it'll be in 5 years if you don't change....less than the margin for error, just where it is now and has been FOR TWENTY DAMNED YEARS NOW.

I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than elitist douchebags like you that will happily take a broken worthless garbage as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

"By many metrics - Windows XP still has 60% percent of the desktop market. This despite Microsoft only selling Win7 license. "

No it doesn't. At least not in the non-Chinese market where most of us live. That number skews the market where still half of them use IE 6 and is heavily pirated with older machines where 90% of copies are illegal.

In the US XP runs in less 1 out of every 4 desktops. Windows 7 is eclipsing XP and Vista with strong corporate sales. Corporate America is the only one buying new XP licenses and almost all of them are either upgrading to Windows 7 or plan to do it in the next 6-12 months if they are not already doing so now.

XP is quickly dying and being replaced regardless of its fans. At the this rate a year from now it will drop below the 10% marketshare line. Then games and other apps wont support XP anymore. XP is very old and thanks to the recession many companies refused to upgrade and instead kept running older systems which are now dying. Economists call this pent up demand. Vista was so bad too and now with Windows 7 corporate users can finally jump ship.

65% WinXP vs. 13% Win7 - admittedly that was June 2010
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-vs-Windows-7-a-Microsoft-Perspective-147906.shtml

Slightly more updated stats:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Puts them head to head with Win7 leading by 2% points.

Still, as noted in my OP (the GP of this post), web stats are skewed due to User Agents modifications in browsers of non-Windows platforms by users.

So then we turn to a number of resources from Wikipedia which still shows Win7 lagging WinXP by 4% in nearly every survey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

which seems to be corroborated by http://www.netmarketshare.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=11 showing Win7 at almost 30% and WInXP at almost 50%.

What does this mean? Given time, WIn7 will overtake WinXP but even 2 years after Win7 was released that still hasn't happened - namely due to (i) the downgrade rights to WinXP that comes with certain versions of Win7, and (ii) the massive amount of installs for WinXP.

And these stats are probably pretty accurate even within the US as well where most only upgrade to a newer version of Windows because that's what came on it from BestBuy/etc; even then, with Win7 if you bought one with downgrade rights you are prompted for which - Win7 or WinXP - you want to install/use during first use.

So lets see, your response is...suckup suckup suckup, bullshit bullshit bullshit and finally "Fight teh powerz!" am I right? Sum it up?

I don't give a shit if in 1979 he invented the fucking takeout pizza okay? WTF does what he did in the past matter now? does that give him a "be a douchebag free" card? I guess it does as far as you're concerned.

And what are you fucking smoking? What corp in their right mind would be running 16 bit apps nearly 15 YEARS after support ended? Security hole much? hell why not just put some Win98 machines on the network while you're at it. Anybody who actually needs code THAT old has these wonderful things called "VMs" maybe you've heard of them? because nobody in their right mind is gonna let a gaping security hole like 16 bit crapola run on a modern desktop. Oh and how does that 16bit code run on 64bit Linux? Oh that's right IT DON'T.

And I'm about as jealous of Linus dumbass Torvalds as I am of any other cult figure, that is NOT AT ALL. If anything all I feel is pity, pity that otherwise sane people (I assume you're sane, can't tell by your post) would bend over backwards to kiss his ass and take the big steaming turds he hands you and say "Please sir, can I sniff your asshole?". FACT-It has been TWENTY YEARS and Linux is NO FURTHER on the desktop than when it started 20 YEARS AGO. FACT- OSX, BSD, Windows, hell even OS/2 have an ABI and guess what? the DRIVERS WORK which is more than can be said for Linux. But why am I wasting my breath, maybe you'd enjoy some nice copypasta where I point out what a TOTAL FAILURE LINUX IS? As for why it pisses me off, it pisses me off because it COULD be good, if it weren't for assholes like Torvalds and suckups like you. Enjoy

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandw

Tell that to the designers of the MacBook Air and be prepared to get your face slapped. Apple marketed the first viable tablet. Did people buy it because of iOS or because it was a tablet? Same thing with the iPhone (who happens to be losing market share to Android phones). The bottom line is that most people don't care about the software; they mainly care about who is first.

OSX is still run on only about 5.6% of computers. It doesn't seem that people are clamouring for the software.

Why does Apple have such a big market cap? It is because they manufacture desktop computers, laptops, tablets, mp3 players,smart phones, etc. They also sell the operating systems to run them and music and app stores to supply them. They have their fingers in many big pies so they are very big.

Are you SERIOUSLY that fucking deluded Lintroll? Can you not read or understand anything written unless it is posted as 'I heart lunix and suck teh cocks LOL!"? because I just fucking said MSFT DESERVED TO BE BUSTED FOR ANTITRUST you stupid RMS blowing lintroll, can't you fucking read? oh well i guess you just love being bitchslapped by some large southern manmeat, so once again i'll show what an absolute failure your OS is Enjoy and try not to drool on Linus's balls when you blow him, I hear he hates that.

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

Oh wow, proof that from the very beginning /. had total whackjobs! And I noticed you are TOO SCARED to post anymore unless it has left the front page. Whats the matter Alex, karma starting to suck? I guess we "super sekret M$ ninjas" smack the shit out of little blankie huggers like you. But since you like being cock slapped by the truth so much, as a public service I show your failure yet again! Enjoy!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Actually Alex I'm starting to become convinced that IT IS YOU that is working for Microsoft ZOMG! After all you are doing more to make Linux users look like completely batshit basement dwelling loonie toons than anybody since Twitter and his "It is Bill Gates and the Illuminati in a world wide conspiracy to kill FLOSS!". But hey, since you seem to enjoy being cock slapped by the truth and even after 5 WEEKS of following me around have YET to answer a single link posted on the fatal Linux driver issue? Enjoy as I bitch slap you again! No begone or I shall taunt you some more!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Wow, you are TRULY batshit aren't you? here we are talking about Adobe and Linux, nobody says a damned word about Windows anything, yet it MUST be that I'm a super secret stealth ninja for MSFT just waiting to ambush your 'precious'. But hey this retailer will be more than happy to give your OS a good slapping around if it makes ya happy Alex, lets begin shall we?

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

And for the actual Linux USERS out there, not the batshit "It is a plot by gates and the Illuminati to kill FLOSS" nutjobs like Alex? As a retailer let me say this: i like your OS, your GUI is in many ways superior to what is out there, but the driver model is shit. I don't care if you use an ABI or sacrifice Linus to Cthulu fix this one damned problem so my customers can run updates without the OS having a heart attack and hosing the drivers? i'll be happy to put Linux boxes back on the shelve

Awww, whatsa matter girlie? Can't even find a single argument to back up your bullshit? None at all? Afraid of the truth? Scared? Crying at being shown that Tux blankie is diseased and covered in shit? Don't blame the messenger because you keep sucking on the Linus cock and then acting surprised when you're blinded by the splooge. As a public service I will again post the links, so that all can see how completely full of shit you are and how unlike you I who have the truth on my side have NO SHORTAGE of links to back my assertions up. Citations? I'll give you citations!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Ahhh so here we have proof that when confronted with the truth a Linux zealot can only grab his Tux blankie and scream "nigger faggot" or in Linux terms "Troll shill astroturfer." Perhaps a little more truth to choke on?

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

Wow, you really want to suck my cock, don't you Alex? Because here we are, talking about fucking high School and the public education system, no one has mentioned Operating Systems in ANY way shape or form, yet still you follow me around like a fangirl with her panties wet. But hey, since you want to get slapped around by my large cock again, here it goes...Watch everyone, as poor Alex has NO comeback for this massive cock slapping!

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

You are like those full retards that think the moon landing was faked, you realize this right? Where is your proof? CITATION PLEASE or go back to blowing Linus and the gang. Because unless MSFT suddenly moved their HQ to the middle of AR without telling anyone (and since it has been over 100 all week with a heat index of 106+ it sure as fuck ain't WA) then you are once again showing what a pathetic little cunt you are.

Where is your response to the links? To the retailers leaving in droves? To Linus himself? Can you not read, is that it? Is words on a page that say something other than "herp derp deh lunix is teh roxorz LOL!" more than your teeny tiny mind able to comprehend? I've actually written articles on what retailers need to sell your product, where's yours? Where have you contributed ANYTHING but mindless Linus blowing, ehh?

Kill yourself. Make this world a better place. You are alone because nobody wants you, it isn't gonna get any better, tomorrow your life will be just as empty as it is right now....kill yourself. Will your worldly goods (although what they'll want with a cardboard box and a tux blankie is beyond me) to the Linux foundation and walk in front of that train. You know you want to, you know the loneliness is eating you alive...kill yourself.

Me I have to get the beef ready for the BBQ, my sweet little half Cherokee GF has as usual invited every kinfolk she has and good BBQ takes tim to do it right. Of course you wouldn't know of such things, having never know a woman's touch or had anything other than MickeyD's. How sad, such a sad and pitiful little creature. I find that....delightful. Make the world a better place, remove yourself from it.Oh and in case you need the links again so you can cry before you get the rope, and for the elucidation of others (I know its a big word, look it up) I'll be happy to paste the paragraphs that makes you so mad, just as a special gift for the holidays.

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and

Riiight. Hey douchey, citation please? Someone must have forgotten to tell me where Ballmer parked the money truck. Hell I don't even get discount licensing I buy OEM boxes off Newegg like every other system builder.

Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linus shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walamart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retailer that still believes. I believe that the community doesn't have to take Torvalds shit sandwiches, I believe that things can be made better, I believe Linux can be something for more than douchebags like you that will happily take a cock slapping from linus as long as you can say you are sticking to "teh man". I believe that there can be Linux boxes on actual shelves and penguins on boxes.

So you go hide now mama's boy, you hide with your Tux blankie and keep saying your magical nigger nigger faggot, or should I say shill shill astroturfer, like it is a magical word that will make all the bad go away. But it won't change reality and the reality is your driver model is shit and more than 15 years behind everyone else and that is why retailers like me wouldn't piss on it, not some mythical money truck that sneaks up to my door in the middle of the night. So go compile something and leave the men to talk about the real world, okay little girl?

The question is, what the hell does Mozilla want? I don't see a vision.

How can it have a vision of its own?

Mozilla remains, for all practical purposes, bound hand and foot to Google:

The receivable from this search engine provider represented 71% and 80% of the December 32, 2009 and outstanding receivables respectively.

Notes to Consolidated Financial Statements: Note 9 - Concentration of Risks

There were two zingers in this month's news from Net Applications:

The iPad has 0.92% share of all browsing. In other words, the iPad has 53 times the usage share of its nearest competitor.

When Microsoft decided not to support XP for Internet Explorer 9, they narrowed the front for the browser wars to Windows 7. We've been tracking this strategy ever since, and in May, Internet Explorer 9 on Windows 7 reached 12.2% worldwide (including custom editions). In the U.S., Internet Explorer 9 on Windows 7 averaged 17% usage share during the last three days of May.

Headlines

Firefox, all versions, all platforms: 22%
IE 6 10% IE 8: 31% IE 9: 4%
Chrome 11 10%

Firefox is the new legacy browser, the browser for platforms in decline.

Staying with old MS office versions because of cost baffles me. Those are really not very good (I still have MS Word 2000 on my PC at work and know about its quirks), so I guess OpenOffice might actually be an improvement there. Compatibility is a bit more of an issue, but the last time I tried, it did not look like a showstopper anymore for OpenOffice.

Vista was a special case - by all accounts Vista pre-SP1 was so bad that going from XP to Vista would have been a downgrade. Even now, those running Vista seem to desert it faster than those running XP.
If you believe http://netmarketshare.com/, Windows XP went from 61.9% in Jul '10 to 52.4% in May '11. So 9.5% or about 1/6 of the users XP had in Jul '10 switched away over the last year..
At the same time, the numbers for Vista are 14.3% vs. 9.9%. So 4.4% or almost 1/3 of the users Vista had went away.

Considering iOS is double Linux distro marketshare, and OS/X is more than double iOS, Linux has a long way to go.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8

I can't see how YouTube would outright drop support for H.264. IE still makes up 56% across all versions (source: http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0). Google would be fools to dissuade that many customers away from YouTube as well as any sites that embed YouTube videos. As one reply says in this regard, they might use another site.

Really? I'd like to know where you get your stats from. According to numerous sources, including W3's OS Statistics ( http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp ) DESKTOP linux users number about 5%. and that doesn't include the VAST number of servers.

W3schools is hardly representative for the average Internet user (it might have been 15 years ago). Linux 0.98% and falling

Common myth still spreading around that macs do not have viruses. Majority of its users still do not have anti-virus software of any kind.

The pioneer who goes in first, strikes the gold.

Agree with the myth being a myth (JFGI). But with just 5% Mac marketshare I wouldn't exactly call it gold :)

You know IE8 passes acid2

Which is why I still test on IE >= 8.

IE9 gets a 95 on the acid3 test.

Which is comparable to Firefox. But there are more copies of Windows on which IE 9 doesn't run than on which IE 9 does run. The first result from Google windows market share states that as of November 2010, Windows Vista and Windows 7 combined make about 32 percent to Windows XP's 58 percent.

Since when has IE ever been faster? And why bother cheating when you have 51% of the market share?

Browser share from Dec 2009 to Oct 2010

"you're not getting my business"

according to this you and your iphone touting pals make up less than 2% of the market
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=iOS,Linux&sample=36

i don't want to make you look really stupid but...

  98% of Internet connected PCs have Flash Player
  85% of the top 100 websites use Flash Player (Alexa)
  75% of web video is viewed using Flash Player (Comscore)
  98% of enterprises rely on Flash Player (Forrester)
  70% of web games are delivered using Flash Player (Evans Data Corp.)
  3.5 million developers use the Flash Platform
  19 of the top 20 device manufacturers worldwide have committed to shipping Flash technology on their devices

now maybe you need to tune the amp settings on your RDF...?
(what is it about apple users that makes them not just cocksuckers but such deluded and self-important little cocksuckers...?)

The spin put on this story is strange - when you look at Net Applications itself:

Windows 7 has by far the highest share of Internet Explorer 9.0 beta users. Our browser usage numbers show that Internet Explorer 9 Beta has grown about 2.5 times from 0.61% in September to 1.46% in October on the Windows 7 platform. Worldwide, Internet Explorer 9 Beta represents 0.32% of browser usage share across all operating systems. Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 9

The IE9 Beta replaces 32 and 64 bit IE 7/8.

That is something new for IE and for Windows as a mass-market OS.

In Net Applications' OS platform stats only Windows, OSX and iOS have a greater than 1% global market share. That is a very impressive performance for Apple's mobile devices - and Win 7's performance doesn't look too shabby. But, for all the attention given to mobile, it remains a very small part of a picture that doesn't seem to be changing very much. Top Operating System Share Trend

The spin put on this story is strange - when you look at Net Applications itself:

Windows 7 has by far the highest share of Internet Explorer 9.0 beta users. Our browser usage numbers show that Internet Explorer 9 Beta has grown about 2.5 times from 0.61% in September to 1.46% in October on the Windows 7 platform. Worldwide, Internet Explorer 9 Beta represents 0.32% of browser usage share across all operating systems. Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 9

The IE9 Beta replaces 32 and 64 bit IE 7/8.

That is something new for IE and for Windows as a mass-market OS.

In Net Applications' OS platform stats only Windows, OSX and iOS have a greater than 1% global market share. That is a very impressive performance for Apple's mobile devices - and Win 7's performance doesn't look too shabby. But, for all the attention given to mobile, it remains a very small part of a picture that doesn't seem to be changing very much. Top Operating System Share Trend

I predict within six months "OpenOffice" will be dead and "LibreOffice" (or similar community-owned fork) will have supplanted it.

LibreOffice is in beta. LibreOffice is on hold.

"This beta release is not intended for production use! Be advised that the current beta might replace your OpenOffice.org installation." LibreOffice Productivity Suite

The fork does not sell a core productivity app to your boss.

It suggests to him, among many other things, the possibility of further fragmentation and more bad blood.

The "similiar community-owned fork."

Linux has a 0.85% global share of the client. iOS tops Linux. The numbers are no better when you look at a breakdown by countries and regions. Stat Counter Global Stats

If Oracle chooses, it is strongly positioned to keep OpenOffice.org dominant in the OSX and Windows markets, assuming "dominance" means anything in an environment where MS Office is so strong.

Man, I remember when Slashdot use to be a tech and open source news and tech discussion forum. Can't believe it has transformed into an Apple fanblog.

The success stories in the consumer market space this year have been the iOS in mobile devices, OSX and Windows 7 on the desktop. Trend for 'iOS,Android', iOS tops Linux, StatCounter Global Stats

For a "hackable" Linux as a client-side OS the year has really been something of a downer. The "OtherOS" is gone from the PS3 and only the geek seems to have noticed. Ubuntu has its Netbook Edition, but the netbook platform itself seems to be headed South.

Whatever Android and Chrome may become, they are almost certainly going to be more Google than Geek. In mid October of 2010 that may not be quite as cheering a prospect as it looked in 2008. Sony HDTVs To Come With Google TV Interface

Man, I remember when Slashdot use to be a tech and open source news and tech discussion forum. Can't believe it has transformed into an Apple fanblog.

The success stories in the consumer market space this year have been the iOS in mobile devices, OSX and Windows 7 on the desktop. Trend for 'iOS,Android', iOS tops Linux, StatCounter Global Stats

For a "hackable" Linux as a client-side OS the year has really been something of a downer. The "OtherOS" is gone from the PS3 and only the geek seems to have noticed. Ubuntu has its Netbook Edition, but the netbook platform itself seems to be headed South.

Whatever Android and Chrome may become, they are almost certainly going to be more Google than Geek. In mid October of 2010 that may not be quite as cheering a prospect as it looked in 2008. Sony HDTVs To Come With Google TV Interface

Sounds like it's designed to make Linux look better than Windows and Mac OS X by breaking their numbers down.

It scarcely matters one way or the other.

StatCounter Global Stats, iOS tops Linux

Or more scary is the internet could have started as a purely commercial venture. Imagine if it had not existed, and AOL had created their own version of the internet. It is kind of what they were trying to do before the open internet kicked their butts. You would have several private nets (like in the 80s) and eventually, the big ones would buy out the small ones. You would have MUCH less content, as the price to enter the market with a website would be dictated by singular corporate interests.

What do you think you is happening now?

The "walled garden" of the iOS is bigger than Linux. iOS tops Linux

Facebook has 500 million active users, Steam 25 million. PlaystationHome has 14 million. AOL in its prime had 30 million.

It's an uphill battle, and we've still got a ways to go, but Linux in general and Ubuntu specifically has been making great strides here.

Linux is treading water.

In most stats, it is barely visible as also-ran.

Stat Counter Global Stats

I want expecting this.

But the Linux Stat Counter stats for countries like Argentina, Brazil, Germany, The Netherlands, Portugal, Venezuela etc., are really quite pathetic. Either these countries have gone off-line or the FOSS geek has spent too much time listening to his own propaganda.

The picture is somewhat less bleak in Uruguay - one of OLPC's great success stories. But in Rwanda - where OLPC had a confirmed, significant, deployment of 100,000 units - Linux is easily outpaced by OSX and Win 7.

Top Operating System Share Trend, iOS Tops Linux

Even when you factor in Android, the numbers don't change all that much.

OS Platform Statistics

24% Win 7: Up from 0% in Jan 09, Linux 4.5%: Up from 2.2% in Mar 03. The W3Schools stats for Linux are as good as it gets.

because usage like this stat is actually a important statistic, while market share is useless since market share does not equal usage.

Nonsense.

Web stats are built from the actions of users.

Which is why Net Applications numbers Apple, D&B, Microsoft, Nokia, Opera, the Mozilla Foundation, RIM and the WSJ among its clients.

Fundling for client-side apps goes to the platforms which are commercially viable.

Chrome Frame or Firefox port to Windows isn't an act of charity when AdSense pays your bills.

Neither can you crack through the "walled garden" when your platform has a 0.85% share of the mass consumer market. iOS tops Linux

Net Applications tracks any device which can access the web -

which these days can be your smart phone, mobile touch pad, video game console and HDTV.

The market has grown larger and more complex.

You don't own a single "internet appliance," more likely two, three, four or even five.

The Net Applications stats have not been kind to Linux. iOS tops Linux, Top Operating System Share Trend

It is perfectly possible to imagine the iOS outpacing Linux+Android in the mobile market.

The only OS with a visible upward trend in other markets is Windows 7. The geek who insists that Win 7 is "Vista+" might usefully be reminded that Vista plus Win 7 is 30% of the market as a whole.

Net Applications tracks any device which can access the web -

which these days can be your smart phone, mobile touch pad, video game console and HDTV.

The market has grown larger and more complex.

You don't own a single "internet appliance," more likely two, three, four or even five.

The Net Applications stats have not been kind to Linux. iOS tops Linux, Top Operating System Share Trend

It is perfectly possible to imagine the iOS outpacing Linux+Android in the mobile market.

The only OS with a visible upward trend in other markets is Windows 7. The geek who insists that Win 7 is "Vista+" might usefully be reminded that Vista plus Win 7 is 30% of the market as a whole.

... and doesn't know it.

Take a look - a good, long, look - at the posts here.

If you despise the masses, the software and services they use, you are not going to accomplish anything.

iOS tops Linux

USERS paid developers over $1 billion, and Apple snatched over $300,000.

Reading comprehension, D-.

It is $1 billion to developers and $429 million to Apple (with a 70/30 split.)

The iOS as a platform for the web and the web app has a larger market share than Linux and five times that of the Android OS. iOS tops Linux

I would think that the ability to run linux *again* might be of more interest here on /.

Linux on the PS3 has become more symbol than reality - at a time when Linux seems increasingly marginalized: iOS tops Linux

Whatever Android and Chrome might become, their future lies with Google and not the geek.

I'm not disputing your 2% number, because I don't have any other numbers to dispute it with. But not all computers are new computers. To be fair, my gut tells me the two cheeseburgers I had for lunch were just what I needed, so it lies to me sometimes.

Yes it does.

If you click on a website, someone, somewhere, has another data point for their webstats - and nowhere does the news for the "open web" or Linux look partcularly good: iOS Tops Linux

Their owners, who can't afford a new computer, were grateful to get the results of my dumpster-diving, reformatting, and refurbishing. It costs me (and them) nothing.

Nothing but your time. But your time is not unlimited.

Walmart.com is open 24/7/365 and it stocks 149 flavors of the Windows laptop, 88 desktops and 102 printers for the 64-bit Win 7 world.

For the purpose of IE "uptake" what matters is unique computers connected to the internet.

Windows ~92
Mac OS ~5%
Linux ~1%
Other ~2% (combined)

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8

Hell not supporting XP (~60% of global market) is more of hindrance to IE 9 adoption than anything else.

Fringe? It's still 60% of the browser usage:

http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0

Re-read OP's post. They are discussing IE9, which does not run on those things (unlike various other versions of IE). So... the 60% marketshare stat you provide is irrelevant to their premise.

In addition, read MSDN's post. It says...

(translated)"HEY!!!! We're FINALLY first with SOMETHING!!!! Let's rub it in everyone else's faces!!!!!!! Maybe they wont notice the fact that once again we wont be compliant with web standards!!!"

(in MS Marketing Speak) "We’re excited that other browsers have started to use hardware to accelerate graphics performance. With different implementations starting to become available, now’s a good time to blog about the difference between full and partial hardware acceleration."

This is Microsoft we're talking about, they still believe they are the *only* platform.

Which is not so far from the truth, after all.

Operating System Market Share, Top Operating System Share Trend

iOS Tops Linux

In the Net Applications stats, Apple and Microsoft "own" the only operating systems with a 1% market share or higher.

This is Microsoft we're talking about, they still believe they are the *only* platform.

Which is not so far from the truth, after all.

Operating System Market Share, Top Operating System Share Trend

iOS Tops Linux

In the Net Applications stats, Apple and Microsoft "own" the only operating systems with a 1% market share or higher.

This is Microsoft we're talking about, they still believe they are the *only* platform.

Which is not so far from the truth, after all.

Operating System Market Share, Top Operating System Share Trend

iOS Tops Linux

In the Net Applications stats, Apple and Microsoft "own" the only operating systems with a 1% market share or higher.

You're looking for This one. W7 and Vista have together less than 30%, and that's the only operating systems IE9 will run on. So if they get 100% of those, which seems unlikely, their max upside today is 30% of the total browser market. Since as you note they only get 60% share even though Windows is over 90%, it's a 20% upside potential for IE9 today - probably less since early adopters are also the people most likely to choose a different browser. Fringe. Not enough to dominate the developers.

XP has a very long tail. It's still selling in the market and will be installed through downgrade rights for the entire life of W7. XP will likely still be over 50% three years from now. IE9 doesn't run on XP.

Well, it works for 85% of the folks out there: http://www.netmarketshare.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=11. I'd say that's a good start.

Fringe? It's still 60% of the browser usage:

http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0

Linux market share is lower than ever!

By 12.10 it will be Quitting Quail, as Linux users install Windows 8 in droves.

Ha ha ha the Troll is True.

It was worth people's trouble to write malware for an OS that had several million fewer machines running it back then, but it's not worth their time today for an OS that has a much larger user population? Care to try to explain that?

There were likely at least a hundred million fewer computers in the 90s.

Therefore, Mac has increased by quite a bit if you look at pure numbers, but in terms of total % of computers, they've gone down.

Let me try throwing you an example here.

Back in the early 1800s people would easily be willing to break into a person's house in order to rob them of a hundred dollars. Now, several million more people have, let's say, a thousand dollars in their houses and yet burglars nowadays don't break into houses with the intention of stealing a thousand dollars. Because the total amount that money is worth has gone down.

Thus, despite there being far more Mac based computers nowadays, it's worth even less of their time and money to attack them. If, on the other hand, businesses all went to Macs thinking "Hey we can protect from viruses!" then welcome to the limelight (relatively) small population of Mac users.

Also, rereading your post I have to ask one thing.

The installed base of OS X today dwarfs that of the classic Mac OS that existed in the 90s, back when Apple had ~15% market share. Yet malware was quite a bit more of a problem in the classic Mac OS days than it has been in the OS X era.

You've just noted here the absolute truth that increased market share = increased insecurity. So I don't get why you're having trouble comprehending that more market share = more attacks = less secure. I suppose part of it might be you haven't looked at the chart showing market share. 3 versions of Windows take up nearly 90% of market share while Mac and "other" only take up 5% each. 5% market share is, despite there being more Macs, far far less than 15%.

Linux dropped to a rounding error? Really??

That's essentially where Linux stands in the July stats from Net Applications. The iPhone at 0.7%. Linux, all flavors, at 0.9%. Operating System Market Share

The summary beings with "Despite all the hype of Apple's latest phone," but the figures don't include the sales of the iPhone 4. In fact, the sales are from the period of time during the iPhone 4 prototype leak, which means potential 3GS customers were probably waiting for the next model before purchasing.

It turns out that the iPhone 4 saw the biggest single-month market share gain on record. That's over twice that of the Android. Will you see that article on Slashdot's front page? Of course not, because (in my opinion) Android astroturfers are using the site to drum up anti-Apple buzz among techies.

"Traditional" businesses don't understand technology at all, especially "consumer" technology trends.

Net Applications tracks 40 browser versions:

IE 8.0 25%
IE 6.0 17%
FFX 3.6 16%
IE 7.0 12%
FFX 3.5 5%
Chrome 4.1 5%
Safari 4%
Opera 10.x 2%
Chrome 5.0 1%

Browser Version Market Share
These are global webstats, not Chase's internal webstats - there can be a difference and a difference that matters.

However "trend-forward" Opera and Chrome may appear to the geek, they really aren't all that significant in the mass consumer market.