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ASUS DRW-24B1ST
Never had a single problem with this drive. Available here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
Seek/read timing:
[53:27.17]: 18ms seek, 0.30ms/sec read [45.0x]
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[40:00.32]: 20ms seek, 0.33ms/sec read [40.0x]
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[20:00.32]: 21ms seek, 0.41ms/sec read [32.7x]
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Re:Is 4 hours too little?
Then why dont you have one now? I have been running windows OS tablets for well over 15 years. Or do you not know enough about the Microsoft Ecosystem that they have been available for a very long time now.
Why are you waiting? go to newegg and buy one http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100013681%2050001301&IsNodeId=1&name=Fujitsu Here is a buttload for you to choose from.
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Re:It doesn't compete with tablets
Which ultrabooks are cheaper? All of the ones I've seen are $1000+
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Skip the angle grinder
Some comments based on experience (electrical engineer in communications and networking for 30 yrs):
- Xcelite #25 handle with RB-1 and RB-2 Flat/Philips reversible blades
- Second the multi-tool recommendation - (almost) everything you need, on your hip
- DON'T buy a cheap multimeter, buy a decent Fluke
- RJ45 crimper and
- cable continuity checker (like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896775013)
- Toner probe (for tracing cables)
- Punch down tool with 66/110 blades
- LED flashlight (I like the cheap Chinese ones that run on CR123 cells,,,shelf life is longer than AAs)
- Head-mounted magnifier and 10x loupes
- decent hand tools, like diagonal cutters, cable cutter, etc. I love Klein tools, Cooper/Xcelite are 2d choice, avoid cheap stuff
- multi-bit screwdrivers, if you must, but get the kind that take the 1/4" hex bits, so you can replace them (they vanish quicker than you'd think) -
Re:This is a good thing
As opposed to Windows, which runs like an absolute dream on unsupported hardware, right? How's that old parallel port printer working for you btw, or that old but perfectly adequate graphics card?
Unsupported hardware is hardware which might-or-might-not work, by definition.
The parallel port printer not working is an issue with the lack of a parallel port on a modern PC. Fortunately you can buy USB/LPT adapters (I bought these) which really do work. I was surprised at how well they work -at least on the Win7 & OSX boxes. I plugged the adapter into the computer, plugged the (very outdated: one had a LPT 1824-B and a serial DE-9 port, the other had a LPT 1284-B and an AppleTalk port) printer into the other end, and (in both Win7 and OSX) the printer was listed and worked correctly. I performed no driver installation at all, just let the OS detect and configure itself and when it reported it was finished I tested the results -successful.
The old graphics card thing is even more of a false flag. The standard vga driver (built in to win7) just works with every video card I have seen. If you want better graphics, or specific features, you may have to install the correct driver for the card, but that does not mean it does not work without it.
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Re:Nothing new here
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster. -
Re:Nothing new here
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster. -
Re:Nothing new here
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster. -
Re:Nothing new here
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster. -
Re:Nothing new here
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster. -
Re:Nothing new here
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster. -
Re:Nothing new here
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster. -
Re:Not much point in 64 bits here
All ASUS motherboards support ECC AFAIK, as do the new AMD CPUs.
Pretty much no non-server/workstatiion motherboards for Intel chips support ECC. Asus does have the P9X79WS, though, so that's one. Although every AMD CPU supports ECC, not every AMD motherboard supports it. So, I stand by my statement that the vast majority of motherboards don't support ECC.
To be honest, though, if you don't want two or more graphics cards, there are a lot of Intel server/workstation motherboards that are great for general-purpose computing (or gaming with a single x16 card). But, those are a lot more expensive ($150 vs. $65 for a socket 1155 board).
Unbuffered ECC memory is cheap now, sometimes cheaper than non-ECC, like 250€ for a 4x8GB pack.
Yeah, the equivalent of US$320 is lot less than $110 for 32GB (4x8GB) non-ECC RAM...(I know it's lame, but)...NOT.
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ZBox Nano seems better to me...
$200 scores you a 5x5 box with wireless, LAN, can fit a 2.5" drive, and has a dual core (sandy bridge?) intel processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173042
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Re:AMD was better
A simple challenge, find any of those chips on NewEgg or other favorite major online retailer. I couldn't.
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Re:i don't get it
Measuring $/core or $/CPU Cycle is not a very accurate way to gauge price/performance.
Maybe not, but when I can get 8 64bit cores in a complete system like this: delivered for $500, that gets my attention. Throw some Linux distro on there and it's good to go.
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Re:i don't get it
Too bad that servers are pretty much like desktops, the octo-core FX-8350 competes against quad-core i5/i7s and their 16-core server chips compete against Intel's octo-cores. You might as well say AMD is winning the desktop market because they're the only one to offer "lots of cores".
So, AMD 16 core part for $519 per socket for Intel for over $1000 for an 8 core.
A 6200 series CPU with the same cores as "Bulldozer" yes, it's called a fire sale. I'm guessing that price is the Opteron 6272. Well they're selling it for $4 less than AMDs bulk price, probably to get rid of inventory, I doubt Newegg will keep selling these at a loss for very long. If you want the 6300 series CPUs with the same cores as the FX-8350 then
a) You must pay over $700
b) It launched a week ago
c) It's nowhere to be found and no review site has gotten a chip for testingP.S. There are some bizarrely expensive 10-core Intel chips, lots of high end RAS functions etc. but they're in a market where AMD has no offerings at all.
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Re:Careful what you wish for
Actually no. ATI just dropped support for my card in my motherboard that I bought in early 2011.
Everything about my motherboard should be perfectly fine in todays world except that ATI dropped support in the linux drivers. So no more hardware acceleration.
(Meanwhile my GT220 from ages ago still gets support and that's why I stick with Nvidia on Linux side).
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Re:VMware is very easy but
It will not work with SOME Realtek cards out of the box but there are many other cheap cards that it does work with like this one, I know because I have it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156139
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Re:That must explain their popularity.
I guess that's why all the low-power Pentiums with two cores and no hyperthreading have about ten or twenty reviews on Newegg, and all the Core I7s that score 5x higher on Passmark and use 3x as much power, while costing several times more, have hundreds of reviews.
More efficient processor (Pentium G630), 18 reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116406
Less efficient processor (Core i7-3770K), 357 reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501On Amazon it's the same pattern, with 47 reviews for the bitchin' fast processor and 7 for the futuristic low-power one.
I'm also noticing that the difference between the best GPU/CPU and the second-best model is a margin of 30-40% on a good day, just like it has been for the last decade.
You keep using that word...
A processor which does 5x as much and uses 3x as much power is more efficient.
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Re:That must explain their popularity.
I guess that's why all the low-power Pentiums with two cores and no hyperthreading have about ten or twenty reviews on Newegg, and all the Core I7s that score 5x higher on Passmark and use 3x as much power, while costing several times more, have hundreds of reviews.
More efficient processor (Pentium G630), 18 reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116406
Less efficient processor (Core i7-3770K), 357 reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501On Amazon it's the same pattern, with 47 reviews for the bitchin' fast processor and 7 for the futuristic low-power one.
I'm also noticing that the difference between the best GPU/CPU and the second-best model is a margin of 30-40% on a good day, just like it has been for the last decade.
You keep using that word...
A processor which does 5x as much and uses 3x as much power is more efficient.
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Re:What?
May 2011 Newegg had Samsung F4 2TB for $69.99; currently they're at $129.99
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Not Actually...$0.058 per GB Isn't Bad...
Sale is over, but Newegg sold 1TB Hitachi DeskStars, which actually are reliable now (I have some that have been spinning nonstop for 2 years) for $60 apiece. That's around $0.058 per gigabyte before formatting...not bad at all. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145304
Yes, while the regular price is $80, you've always had to get drives when they're on sale if you want a really good deal, anyway. Same actually goes for SSDs. -
Order a case of these!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704134 TP-LINK TL-WR702N Wireless N Nano Router They support mesh networking and repeating. Cheap, work great, can be powered by USB or wall wart. Never had one screw up.
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Re:Move things less.
There are others, but this was the first result:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834993446
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Stuff I do
1) Take excess power cords and shorten them to length. I have a bar power strip at the back of my desk and I shorten my power cords to length with plugs.
2) Use velcro straps and cable ties to keep cables neat, coiled and short. Bundle cables together that are going the same place. Use expandable braided sleeving where possible and be sure to melt the edges where you cut it so it doesn't fray.
3) Make your own ethernet cables and cut them to length. Color code and/or label them if you have more than a few.
4) Use a universal docking station if you have to something like a laptop that needs to be unplugged regularly.
5) Cordless mouse and/or keyboards are nice but if you have corded versions coil the cables and use the shortest path you can manage.
6) Use raceways and conduit if running cable any distance.
7) Use devices with short cables and extend them rather than using a longer cable than necessary.
8) Use patch panels and wiring closets or buy a small server rack on caster wheels if you have a lot of computers and limited space.
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Re:Considering this is Windows...
Maybe you think that's a big deal because a 16 GB iPad costs $100 more than a 32GB one, versus $9.99 to add 16GB to the Surface
No, I don't. I don't give a flying f*ck about how much an iPad costs. I'd say the same thing about them if iOS used half of all the storage space on the device.
People have been advertising the total storage capacity, as opposed to the available storage space, since the first hard drives hit the market back in the early 90's. So your complaint seems to be about how much space is used out of the total available, and when you can double your capacity for a few measly bucks it really makes you come across as nothing but a bit of a whiner.
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Re:Considering this is Windows...
Maybe you think that's a big deal because a 16 GB iPad costs $100 more than a 32GB one, versus $9.99 to add 16GB to the Surface
No, I don't. I don't give a flying f*ck about how much an iPad costs. I'd say the same thing about them if iOS used half of all the storage space on the device.
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Re:Considering this is Windows...
In practice you're being sold a 16GB tablet when you think you're buying a 32GB one.
Maybe you think that's a big deal because a 16 GB iPad costs $100 more than a 32GB one, versus $9.99 to add 16GB to the Surface. And in fact, the add-in card is better, because you easily swap out different cards with different contents. I have a MicroSD with my entire music collection for my Sansa Clip+, and might want to pop it into a tablet without waiting for a 20GB file copy.
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Re:HP Proliant MicroServer N40L
It does have a remote access card you can put in, take a look at its manual or a review. I have one N36L installed with this card in a closet back home and it makes one hell of a Proxmox VE machine.
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HP Proliant MicroServer N40L
I don't work in a data center. But I think you might want to look at an HP Proliant MicroServer.
Basically it is an AMD laptop chipset on a tiny motherboard in a cunningly designed compact enclosure. The SATA drives go into carriers that are easily swapped (but not hot-swappable). It's quiet and power-efficient. It supports ECC memory (max 8GB) and supports virtualization.
Silent PC Review did a complete review of an older model (with a 1.3 GHz Turion instead of 1.5 GHz).
http://www.silentpcreview.com/HP_Proliant_MicroServer
SRP is $350, but Newegg has it for $320 (limit 5 per customer).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859107052
Newegg also has 8GB of ECC RAM for about $55, so you can get one of these and max its RAM for under $400.
I just got one and haven't had time to really wring it out, but I did do the RAM upgrade. Despite the tiny enclosure, it wasn't too painful to work on it, and I was impressed by the design. The Turion dual-core processor has a passive heat sink on it, and the single large fan on the back pulls air through to cool everything. (There is also a tiny high-speed fan on the power supply.)
I'm going to use this as my personal mail server. It's cheap enough and small enough that I plan to have at least one put away as a hot spare; if the server dies, I'll power it down, move the hard drives to the spare, and I'll have the mail server back up within 5 minutes. Not bad for a cheap little box.
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Re:Agree 100%
16:9 seems to be cheaper to mass produce than 16:10. The prices are currently lower and the quantities are higher on Newegg at least.
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Re:Windows Server
Just one issue:
$1,099.99 Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard 64-bit 1 Server 10 CAL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116853&name=Server-Software
I'll keep my thousand dollars and you can keep your buggy, virus ridden, proprietary OS.
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Re:Apple doesn't want to be *more* dependent on In
Also note that Apple has people paying $2500 and up for the Mac Pro, and $1000 and up for laptops. But mobile devices are closer to $500, and the Android competition is hitting the $200 price point.
There just isn't as much room to pay top dollar prices for Intel parts in the mobile space.
So even if Intel mobile x86 parts are slightly faster than the ARM chips, will Intel be happy selling at prices competitive with ARM prices? History suggests "no". The cheapest Atom chips are around $20 but Intel makes those suck, just as much as Intel can get away with.
Intel is the master of segmenting markets. Different chips at different price points have different features enabled. Cheaper chips are as crippled as possible, to encourage you to buy a more expensive chip. For example, Intel doesn't support virtualization features on their less-expensive chips; and Intel mostly reserves support for ECC RAM to only the Xeon processors.
(In contrast, AMD puts full functionality in all their parts; they are #2 and they are trying harder to please the customer. That is how you can get an HP Proliant MicroServer with a 1.5 GHz dual-core AMD Turion processor for $320 at Newegg, with full support for virtualization and ECC RAM. I cannot imagine a MicroServer with equal or better Intel parts hitting that price point.)
Intel will try to balance the functionality it allows into the mobile chips against the price it can get. Apple just wants the best chips for the cheapest price. These two goals are not in alignment.
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Re:If AMD Dies...
So, a few years ago the high-end processors from Intel cost $1000 a pop. Today, the high-end chips like the 3770 cost roughly $300... and that's probably their fastest consumer chip, except maybe last generation's hexacore sandy bridges... This seems like a pretty big improvement in price to me. Intel's pricing is better than it has been for many years. I certainly can't ever remember a time before the i-series era where Intel's fastest chips were selling for $300!
Intel's high end Xeon processors which you cite still cost over $1000.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117261&name=Processors-Servers
In fact the: Intel Xeon E5-2690 Sandy Bridge-EP 2.9GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 20MB L3 Cache LGA 2011 135W 8-Core Server Processor BX80621E52690 cost $2,039.99 each.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105272&name=Processors-Servers
The AMD Opteron 6174 Magny-Cours 2.2GHz 12 x 512KB L2 Cache 12MB L3 Cache Socket G34 115W 12-Core Server Processor OS6174WKTCEGOWOF cost $1,239.99 each.
Let us revisit this discussion of AMD and their premature demise. The pricing on Piledriver alone will make big news, not to mention all the past negative press has been silenced to date.
The APUs continue to evolve rapidly and nothing Intel can to match that will happen in the next 24-36 months, if ever.
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Re:If AMD Dies...
So, a few years ago the high-end processors from Intel cost $1000 a pop. Today, the high-end chips like the 3770 cost roughly $300... and that's probably their fastest consumer chip, except maybe last generation's hexacore sandy bridges... This seems like a pretty big improvement in price to me. Intel's pricing is better than it has been for many years. I certainly can't ever remember a time before the i-series era where Intel's fastest chips were selling for $300!
Intel's high end Xeon processors which you cite still cost over $1000.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117261&name=Processors-Servers
In fact the: Intel Xeon E5-2690 Sandy Bridge-EP 2.9GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 20MB L3 Cache LGA 2011 135W 8-Core Server Processor BX80621E52690 cost $2,039.99 each.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105272&name=Processors-Servers
The AMD Opteron 6174 Magny-Cours 2.2GHz 12 x 512KB L2 Cache 12MB L3 Cache Socket G34 115W 12-Core Server Processor OS6174WKTCEGOWOF cost $1,239.99 each.
Let us revisit this discussion of AMD and their premature demise. The pricing on Piledriver alone will make big news, not to mention all the past negative press has been silenced to date.
The APUs continue to evolve rapidly and nothing Intel can to match that will happen in the next 24-36 months, if ever.
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Long answer
I'm a Windows guy for the most part so I'll give you my various insights from that world.
First things first - have you tried WineX/Cedega or whatever evolution it's on to try running these things on your nix boxes? I've heard of various successes and I'd assume there's got to be a write up somewhere for how to do this - at least for WoW. Not sure about LoL.
"Getting Windows 7 from a shop is surprisingly expensive, but I have found a place where they sell used software (legally) and can live with that one-time cost."
OEM copies are a cheap route and the only main difference is that Microsoft wont provide support directly. You're basically buying as a computer builder and saying you'll provide the support yourself. If you're anything like me you've probably never even considered that option for a consumer machine and would likely just google it or...ask slashdot.
:p If you've got a domain/ldap set up at home to manage your gear and want these machines under that you'll want the professional version (home doesnt support joining a domain). Otherwise Home edition is probably fine for the kiddos. Also make sure you get the proper architecture you need (32 bit or 64bit) depending on your gear. Last I saw you could get the OEM ones through Newegg and haven't had problems with the ones I've gotten from there. Note, make sure you don't accidentally buy an upgrade version - you'll need full. ($99 from Newegg here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986&name=Operating-Systems )However, I understand that I need to protect the Windows installation against viruses and malware and whatnot. The problem is, I have no clue how. One shop wants to sell me a subscription-based solution from Norton, but this cost will take a huge dip into my kid's monthly allowance — he is required to cover the costs of playing himself, so given that playing WoW is not exactly free, this is a non-trivial expense for him. On the other hand, he has plenty of time, so I guess he could use that time to learn something, and protect his system at the same time.
Screw the paid route. Use Microsoft Security Essentials and be done with it. It's actually not a bad product surprisingly. The only changes I make after installing is going into settings and having it scan removable media when inserted and also creating a system restore point during each scan (VERY handy when things get jacked up). Also, your kid is 12, so chances are good some internet training will go a LONG way. Teach them about about all the evils of the information super highway and let them know it's ok to simply ask you if they're unsure.
Also, he's at that age where he's totally going to be looking for porn. Let's just admit that can get that out of the way. Go ahead and install Spybot and Ad Block Plus as that'll help a bit. Spybot you/he will need to run manually periodically unless you set up scheduled jobs for it. You can either go the route of "if you're going to surf, surf safe" or you could try blocking those kinds of sites via whatever software works for you (I've got no experience with this). Chances are good they're going to find the stuff one way or another so I'd assume the worst and protect the machine from such environments. I'm sure other slashdotters will have better input for this topic. It'll also help to make them a lower privilege user - though that takes away from their autonomy and thus ability to learn how to admin their own box. Your call though - you're the parent.
How do other Slashdotters provide Windows installations for their kids? What kind of protection is needed? Are there any open source/free protection systems that can be used? Should the security issues be ignored, and instead dump the Windows install to an external disk, and restore every two weeks? Is there a 'Windows for Linux users'
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Same problem at Newegg- Really a MS problem
But I really think that in this case ***Futureshop*** is confusing customers, not Microsoft.
Those stock photos showing the Windows 8 logo were not likely provided by ASUS for the RT product. >
Really this is a Microsoft Problem because they named them too closely. They should have called WinRT something totally different, to avoid this mess, really anyone thinking about it should have been able to predict this.
If all the product specialists are the biggest electronic retailers in North America are confused and making mistakes, what chance does the average consumer have.
Essentially the same thing happening at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Tablets-Accessories/Category/ID-164?Tpk=tablet
Check the top of the page.
Win 8 Tablets!
Then they have a mix of ARM/x86 tablets all with the same graphics (this time Metro).
But it is still both kinds of tablets called Windows 8 and undifferentiated.
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Re:First hand experience here
Cavalry Pelican CASD00064MIS 2.5" 64GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820411004
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Re:"This is not a secondary business like Xbox..."
Also, here's an Android 4 tablet with similar specs, but better screen (1900x1200) than SurfaceRT for $500.
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Re:I just crossed the Surface off my Xmas list.
I suggest this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834322002
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Re:Actually not completely dissapointed
I can do that now. In fact I have had a windows 8 tablet for 6 months now at close to that price point.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834680442
Installed Windows 8 beta on it and have been playing for months.
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Re:Not So Fast On The Pointers
So the apps run and you're complaining. When you could buy 4G of RAM for about $60.
Guh. Make that 8G for $30.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104339How many programmer hours do you suppose it'd take to optimise the software you're running? Those hours aren't free, and *in general* highly optimized code is more work to maintain - which will keep software costs up.
If you care about performance, invest in performance.
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Re:The * by the price tag
In fact there is a SIX drive one out there.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816215303
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Re:The * by the price tag
You can get a single bracket that will put a couple of SSDs in a 5.25 inch bay
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816119028
2.5 inch and 3.5 inch SATA drives use the same power and data connectors as do full-sized sata optical drives. 1.8 inch drives and slimline optical drives use different connectors IIRC.
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Intel increases performance-per-dollar
Hardcore AMD fans like to point out that Intel hardly ever reduces prices on chips, and they always conveniently ignore the fact that Intel is constantly increasing the performance-per-dollar at every price point. For example, the desktop "around $200" price point has seen the following since 2007:
2007 - Core 2 Duo E6300 - 1.87 GHz
2008 - Core 2 Duo E8400 - 3.0 GHz
2009 - Core i5 750 2.6 GHz - upgrade to quad core and turbo boost!
2010 - Core i5 760 2.8 GHz
2011 - Core i5 2500 3.3 GHz - major increase, also gets integrated graphics for the first time
2012 - Core i5 3570 3.4 GHzSo the prices are set when they are launched and stay that way, but this is because Intel has a complete planned lineup and does not need one chip to step on all the others. Instead, Intel replaces their entire lineup every year ot two, and each replacement bumps the performance-per-dollar up.
Even without AMD around to push things, Intel is forced to do this because the PC market is saturated, so they can't sell the same-old-thing on the low-end and expect people to upgrade before their computer breaks. And since Intel has a comprehensive lineup of processors, today you can buy a CPU with TWICE the processing power of that 2007 Core 2 Duo E6300 plus integrated graphics for under $50!
I don't really see a problem here. AMD served their purpose keeping the market moving forward a decade ago, but now they are not needed.
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Nice hack.
This might make smartphone videos worth a toss. The audio's pretty terrible on those. Demux the video, mux it with the audio, and you'd be good. Not perfect, but good enough for YouTube.
BTW, if anyone wants to experiment with this, Newegg's selling some refurbed Clip+ players for $26 here.
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Re:Firewall support for IPv6
Sorry I didn't make myself clear, not saying it would be easy, just saying it would be doable. Doable is better than impossible which is what we have on the hardware side and from the looks of a Google search for IPV6 malware the software frankly ain't coming along too well either.
Look it took YEARS with highly trained people, people we frankly don't really have in any abundance anymore, to build what we have now and make it as secure as it is. Remember what it was like in the early days? How worms would run riot and even clicking on an email could infect the system?
Sadly it looks like that is exactly what is gonna happen all over again. the software simply doesn't know how to deal with these new addresses and so it'll just let anything on through, its gonna be a fucking mess. if we were to buy some more time while the government pushed an initiative to get people into the networking field then maybe, just maybe, we could have the hardware and software ready to go and it wouldn't be such a mess.
Instead what is gonna happen is the classic free market bullshit, they'll use ISP side NATs while those sitting on class A addresses are gonna make out like bandits selling them cut up into blocks, and by the time we have to flip the switch the men and software isn't gonna be ready and its gonna be a malware paradise, you'll have Code reds running riot, what a fucking mess. We should have started an initiative 10 damned years ago and banned hardware that didn't support both but now we've made the shit stained bed and we are all gonna have to lie in it.
Oh and the routers? Haven't look at consumer routers in awhile have you? you MAY get the corporate stuff, if its still under contract, to be upgraded but I'll be my last dollar there is no way in hell to upgrade all those trendnet/zonenet/D-Link routers, just no way in hell. We are talking 2Mb of memory and if you are lucky that much flash and 200MHz ARM chips, just no way in hell to get the weak ass gear they put in those things to even work as a switch with IPV6, just not enough memory and CPU cycles to deal quadrupling the address size, just no way.
Hell look at the stuff they are selling right now and I can tell you that's the same level of stuff you'll find in any Walmart, staples, Office max, etc. you think that CCC (Cheapo Chinese Crap) has a snowball's chance in hell of supporting IPV6? Hell I've got one of those little Trendnet routers in the shop, its cheap and does its job but they have never even released a single firmware update for the thing, think they'll care about adding IPV6 support? Its all designed for the dump and if you go to sites like WW-DRT you'll see the specs on most of thse things make it impossible to even hack them, they are so damned weak there is nothing to hack!
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Re:Firewall support for IPv6
Sorry I didn't make myself clear, not saying it would be easy, just saying it would be doable. Doable is better than impossible which is what we have on the hardware side and from the looks of a Google search for IPV6 malware the software frankly ain't coming along too well either.
Look it took YEARS with highly trained people, people we frankly don't really have in any abundance anymore, to build what we have now and make it as secure as it is. Remember what it was like in the early days? How worms would run riot and even clicking on an email could infect the system?
Sadly it looks like that is exactly what is gonna happen all over again. the software simply doesn't know how to deal with these new addresses and so it'll just let anything on through, its gonna be a fucking mess. if we were to buy some more time while the government pushed an initiative to get people into the networking field then maybe, just maybe, we could have the hardware and software ready to go and it wouldn't be such a mess.
Instead what is gonna happen is the classic free market bullshit, they'll use ISP side NATs while those sitting on class A addresses are gonna make out like bandits selling them cut up into blocks, and by the time we have to flip the switch the men and software isn't gonna be ready and its gonna be a malware paradise, you'll have Code reds running riot, what a fucking mess. We should have started an initiative 10 damned years ago and banned hardware that didn't support both but now we've made the shit stained bed and we are all gonna have to lie in it.
Oh and the routers? Haven't look at consumer routers in awhile have you? you MAY get the corporate stuff, if its still under contract, to be upgraded but I'll be my last dollar there is no way in hell to upgrade all those trendnet/zonenet/D-Link routers, just no way in hell. We are talking 2Mb of memory and if you are lucky that much flash and 200MHz ARM chips, just no way in hell to get the weak ass gear they put in those things to even work as a switch with IPV6, just not enough memory and CPU cycles to deal quadrupling the address size, just no way.
Hell look at the stuff they are selling right now and I can tell you that's the same level of stuff you'll find in any Walmart, staples, Office max, etc. you think that CCC (Cheapo Chinese Crap) has a snowball's chance in hell of supporting IPV6? Hell I've got one of those little Trendnet routers in the shop, its cheap and does its job but they have never even released a single firmware update for the thing, think they'll care about adding IPV6 support? Its all designed for the dump and if you go to sites like WW-DRT you'll see the specs on most of thse things make it impossible to even hack them, they are so damned weak there is nothing to hack!
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Re:lengths companies go to
I bet the people these place prey on do not know that.
You can actually get a reasonable machine for less than $350, refurb for maybe $100 less.
Yes, they really are that cheap now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246633