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  1. Re:Psystar- cheap, but is it a deal? by MojoStan · · Score: 1 · on Psystar Open Computer Notes, Benchmarks and Video

    A base system with the Leopard 10.5 OS, 2GB of RAM, a 250GB HDD and Core2Duo processor costs $555 plus shipping. It does not come with a monitor or keyboard. Since TFA reveals that the motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L (and the black case is obviously an Asus TM-210), I think we can further evaluate its "value" by "building" a nearly identical system on Newegg. Here's what I got: Since companies like Psystar can buy parts at much lower prices than we can, it seems like Psystar is making a nice profit on each system. In contrast, when I try to "build" a Newegg PC that's comparable to a cheap HP or Dell, the HP or Dell is always cheaper.

    The price of the Psystar seems cheap compared to Apple branded products, although there appear to be several rough edges. The two articles I've seen on shipped Psystar computers seem to indicate that they did a craptacular job of hacking OS X to work on their hardware. I'm sure most of us can do a better job by referring to OSx86 Project. I'm sure the "rough edges" can be avoided by simply asking on the OSx86 Project's forums, "Which motherboard works correctly with OS X?" (including fan control and OS X Software Update)

    By comparison, for example, a Mac mini with 2GB of RAM, but a smaller HDD and slower CPU costs $949. Although, the aesthetics of the mini can't be denied. Of course. Although, comparing an expandable minitower to a SFF computer with laptop parts is ridiculous. Also, don't forget the bundled iLife that comes with the Mac mini (assuming the buyer wants it).
  2. Re:Psystar- cheap, but is it a deal? by MojoStan · · Score: 1 · on Psystar Open Computer Notes, Benchmarks and Video

    The Psystar systems can take a real video card the mini can't also the open pro has a bigger case and likely less fan noise. The previous psystar video had horrible fain noise. The Psystar in that video with the horrible fan noise was not the OpenPro, which uses the famously quiet Antec P182 case. That video, and the current article, featured the cheaper Open Computer, which uses the much cheaper Asus TM-211 case.

    However, the current article says the loud fan problem seems to be caused by incompatibilies between the motherboard/case fan controller and OS X (and maybe the hacked EFI). If the same motherboard/case was used with Windows, it would surely be much quieter.

  3. 5 cam $600 solution by bobsalt · · Score: 1 · on Is Cheap Video Surveillance Possible?

    get some of these, they are the best bang for the buck. I have even wrapped elec tape around them and put them outside -lol they have 5 triggers, one can be motion detection, other a timer. set them to ftp pics to a linux server (bare bones box $200 at newegg) so 5 cams + linux box = $600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16881180006 I have all the scripts to rotate pics, create mpegs of each days pics, even time stamping using imagemagik. drop me a line if intersted...

  4. Question: by WiglyWorm · · Score: 1 · on Is Cheap Video Surveillance Possible?

    Why do you need a megapixel security camera?

    I've never seen a store front that had much more than vga resolution cameras, and police track down people who rob a store all the time. You can pick up a wireless vga resolution color camera with night visionfor a couple hundred bucks from radio shack. Get a couple of those and a multi-input video capture card. Slap a couple large hard drives in to any halfway modern PC, and there you go.

    Now just make sure you hide the PC so your evidence doesn't get stolen when your house is broken in to.

  5. Re:Prediction: Availability will suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Fujitsu HDD with AES 256-bit Encryption

    Here's one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145159

  6. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  7. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  8. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  9. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  10. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  11. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  12. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  13. Re:You misunderstand by dadragon · · Score: 1 · on Western Digital's VelociRaptor 10K RPM SATA Drive

    What components did you use? Because when I did it I got this:

    Intel Xeon E5440 Harpertown 2.83GHz LGA 771 80W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80574E5440P - Retail $719.00
    Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Skulltrail D5400XS Extended ATX Motherboard - Retail $619.99

    Going the Intel path we're already over $2000 just for the motherboards and CPUs.

    Let's try AMD's equivalent:

    AMD Opteron 2356 Barcelona 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket F 75W Quad-Core Processor - OEM $685.00
    TYAN S2915WA2NRF-E Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 + 3050 SSI / Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Retail $489.99

    With the AMD we're saving a grand total of $200 over Intel.

    Now let's look at the rest of the components:

    Wow.. Radeon 2600 XTs are cheap: $100
    Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) ECC Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit Server Memory Model KVR800D2E5K2/2G - Retail $49.99
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
    LG 20X DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH20NS10 - OEM $25
    Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $199.99
    Thermaltake TR2 RX W0136RU ATX12V Ver2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail $85

    Intel Total: $2600
    AMD Total: $2400

  14. Re:The OpenPro by MojoStan · · Score: 1 · on $399 Mac Clone Most Likely a Hoax

    you can put a video card in the base system in the mini you are stuck with the POS gma 950 video and laptop parts. First you are likely wrong. if you compare the specs on the base price of the open pro $900 and the $399 teaser machine you see they are almost identical. The $399 "teaser machine" is a microATX PC with integrated graphics (and a graphics card slot) while the $1000 OpenPro is a full ATX PC without integrated graphics, so I doubt they're "almost identical" since they're using different chipsets and form factors. (I can't believe they're still taking orders!)

    So what's happening for $500? mainly the powersupply fans and case. To me that says the teaser comes with some 5 cent powersupply and the cheapest possible motherboard. The $400 "teaser machine" uses the ASUS TM-211 case. For $50 at Newegg, it comes bundled with a 300W Bestec power supply, a rear 80mm exhaust fan, and vent holes above the CPU and graphics card area to suck in cool air. Since the integrated graphics are GMA 950, that motherboard (with no integrated FireWire) must be cheap as hell. The 945G chipset is at least 2 generations old (predates the first Intel Macs).

    Many Slashdot readers would recognize the OpenPro's case as the Antec P182, which Newegg sells for $200 without power supply.

    Psystar's FAQ says that the basic Open Computer uses "an Asus 350W power supply which Asus states is rated at 300W," so I'm sure it's the same one bundled at Newegg. They say the OpenPro "runs a 600W PSU."

    They don't even offer a video card upgrade for it. Kinda tells you something. Sure they do. Under "Graphics Processor" they offer "Intel GMA 950" (+0.00), GeForce 8600GT (+$110.00), and GeForce 8800GT 512MB (+$200.00).

    I'm not saying these Psystar computers are good values or even exist. I'm just fascinated by this story because the order/configuration page looks real and still exists despite all the evidence that suggests this is all a big scam. I can't wait to see these scammers go down in flames.

    But why the heck are you comparing the "value" of an expandable microATX minitower (desktop CPU, graphics card option, PCI/PCIe slots, desktop hard/optical drives) to a small form factor desktop made of laptop parts? If Apple offered a decent single-CPU desktop with real desktop parts and no integrated display, I bet it would outsell the Mac mini by a lot. I guess Apple doesn't think such a machine would be profitable enough (nothing wrong with that).

  15. Re:The OpenPro by MojoStan · · Score: 1 · on $399 Mac Clone Most Likely a Hoax

    you can put a video card in the base system in the mini you are stuck with the POS gma 950 video and laptop parts. First you are likely wrong. if you compare the specs on the base price of the open pro $900 and the $399 teaser machine you see they are almost identical. The $399 "teaser machine" is a microATX PC with integrated graphics (and a graphics card slot) while the $1000 OpenPro is a full ATX PC without integrated graphics, so I doubt they're "almost identical" since they're using different chipsets and form factors. (I can't believe they're still taking orders!)

    So what's happening for $500? mainly the powersupply fans and case. To me that says the teaser comes with some 5 cent powersupply and the cheapest possible motherboard. The $400 "teaser machine" uses the ASUS TM-211 case. For $50 at Newegg, it comes bundled with a 300W Bestec power supply, a rear 80mm exhaust fan, and vent holes above the CPU and graphics card area to suck in cool air. Since the integrated graphics are GMA 950, that motherboard (with no integrated FireWire) must be cheap as hell. The 945G chipset is at least 2 generations old (predates the first Intel Macs).

    Many Slashdot readers would recognize the OpenPro's case as the Antec P182, which Newegg sells for $200 without power supply.

    Psystar's FAQ says that the basic Open Computer uses "an Asus 350W power supply which Asus states is rated at 300W," so I'm sure it's the same one bundled at Newegg. They say the OpenPro "runs a 600W PSU."

    They don't even offer a video card upgrade for it. Kinda tells you something. Sure they do. Under "Graphics Processor" they offer "Intel GMA 950" (+0.00), GeForce 8600GT (+$110.00), and GeForce 8800GT 512MB (+$200.00).

    I'm not saying these Psystar computers are good values or even exist. I'm just fascinated by this story because the order/configuration page looks real and still exists despite all the evidence that suggests this is all a big scam. I can't wait to see these scammers go down in flames.

    But why the heck are you comparing the "value" of an expandable microATX minitower (desktop CPU, graphics card option, PCI/PCIe slots, desktop hard/optical drives) to a small form factor desktop made of laptop parts? If Apple offered a decent single-CPU desktop with real desktop parts and no integrated display, I bet it would outsell the Mac mini by a lot. I guess Apple doesn't think such a machine would be profitable enough (nothing wrong with that).

  16. Re:2GB of RAM??? by danielsfca2 · · Score: 1 · on A Peek at AT&T's New Browser, Pogo

    Yay Laptops)
    Actually Laptop RAM is equal in price, and sometimes cheaper nowadays than desktop RAM. A shift in the demand for laptops probably caused this.

    The only way you are screwed is if you need previous generation ram. DDR2 is dirt cheap:

    DDR2 RAM (PC2-5300): 2x1GB chips for laptops, $36, for desktops, $36

    DDR RAM (PC-2700)--Expensive by comparison: A single 1GB chip, $46 so that's $92 just for 2GB. Yikes!

    Everybody who has a computer that uses DDR2 RAM should absolutely be at either their computer's max RAM capacity, or 4GB, whichever is smaller. It just makes sense considering the performance you get per dollar. There's no better way to spend $40 on your computer than a RAM upgrade.

    Likewise, everyone with a Santa Rosa or better chipset should have 4GB in their laptop. It's only $75 for 4GB right now.

    *I swear I don't work for Newegg, but I do buy stuff there a lot.

    Also, any idiot could install RAM. I guarantee you, if you can read, you can do it. Do not pay someone for this, you'd be getting ripped off. Find the manufacturer's manual if your model is confusing, but most put a cute little "chip" icon by the screws you need to remove, or on the panel you remove. Give it a shot.
  17. Re:2GB of RAM??? by danielsfca2 · · Score: 1 · on A Peek at AT&T's New Browser, Pogo

    Yay Laptops)
    Actually Laptop RAM is equal in price, and sometimes cheaper nowadays than desktop RAM. A shift in the demand for laptops probably caused this.

    The only way you are screwed is if you need previous generation ram. DDR2 is dirt cheap:

    DDR2 RAM (PC2-5300): 2x1GB chips for laptops, $36, for desktops, $36

    DDR RAM (PC-2700)--Expensive by comparison: A single 1GB chip, $46 so that's $92 just for 2GB. Yikes!

    Everybody who has a computer that uses DDR2 RAM should absolutely be at either their computer's max RAM capacity, or 4GB, whichever is smaller. It just makes sense considering the performance you get per dollar. There's no better way to spend $40 on your computer than a RAM upgrade.

    Likewise, everyone with a Santa Rosa or better chipset should have 4GB in their laptop. It's only $75 for 4GB right now.

    *I swear I don't work for Newegg, but I do buy stuff there a lot.

    Also, any idiot could install RAM. I guarantee you, if you can read, you can do it. Do not pay someone for this, you'd be getting ripped off. Find the manufacturer's manual if your model is confusing, but most put a cute little "chip" icon by the screws you need to remove, or on the panel you remove. Give it a shot.
  18. Re:2GB of RAM??? by danielsfca2 · · Score: 1 · on A Peek at AT&T's New Browser, Pogo

    Yay Laptops)
    Actually Laptop RAM is equal in price, and sometimes cheaper nowadays than desktop RAM. A shift in the demand for laptops probably caused this.

    The only way you are screwed is if you need previous generation ram. DDR2 is dirt cheap:

    DDR2 RAM (PC2-5300): 2x1GB chips for laptops, $36, for desktops, $36

    DDR RAM (PC-2700)--Expensive by comparison: A single 1GB chip, $46 so that's $92 just for 2GB. Yikes!

    Everybody who has a computer that uses DDR2 RAM should absolutely be at either their computer's max RAM capacity, or 4GB, whichever is smaller. It just makes sense considering the performance you get per dollar. There's no better way to spend $40 on your computer than a RAM upgrade.

    Likewise, everyone with a Santa Rosa or better chipset should have 4GB in their laptop. It's only $75 for 4GB right now.

    *I swear I don't work for Newegg, but I do buy stuff there a lot.

    Also, any idiot could install RAM. I guarantee you, if you can read, you can do it. Do not pay someone for this, you'd be getting ripped off. Find the manufacturer's manual if your model is confusing, but most put a cute little "chip" icon by the screws you need to remove, or on the panel you remove. Give it a shot.
  19. Re:2GB of RAM??? by danielsfca2 · · Score: 1 · on A Peek at AT&T's New Browser, Pogo

    Yay Laptops)
    Actually Laptop RAM is equal in price, and sometimes cheaper nowadays than desktop RAM. A shift in the demand for laptops probably caused this.

    The only way you are screwed is if you need previous generation ram. DDR2 is dirt cheap:

    DDR2 RAM (PC2-5300): 2x1GB chips for laptops, $36, for desktops, $36

    DDR RAM (PC-2700)--Expensive by comparison: A single 1GB chip, $46 so that's $92 just for 2GB. Yikes!

    Everybody who has a computer that uses DDR2 RAM should absolutely be at either their computer's max RAM capacity, or 4GB, whichever is smaller. It just makes sense considering the performance you get per dollar. There's no better way to spend $40 on your computer than a RAM upgrade.

    Likewise, everyone with a Santa Rosa or better chipset should have 4GB in their laptop. It's only $75 for 4GB right now.

    *I swear I don't work for Newegg, but I do buy stuff there a lot.

    Also, any idiot could install RAM. I guarantee you, if you can read, you can do it. Do not pay someone for this, you'd be getting ripped off. Find the manufacturer's manual if your model is confusing, but most put a cute little "chip" icon by the screws you need to remove, or on the panel you remove. Give it a shot.
  20. Re:No wonder Apple wants to stop Psystar by michrech · · Score: 1 · on Psystar Offers $399 "OpenMac" Computer

    This and this will get you started.

    I'm using the following parts:

    Ultra Wizard mid-tower (free after $40 rebate, no shipping, from Frys)
    Thermaltake 500w "Modular" power supply
    Intel "Bad Axe 2"
    Intel E4500 (Allendale) C2D 2.2ghz processor
    2GB G.Skill DDR
    80gb Seagate SATA HDD
    IDE CD-RW/DVD-RW (LiteOn or AOpen, I forget, doesn't matter)
    nVidia 8600gts PCIe video

    Works great with OSX, though the machine spends most of its time in XP (Can't play the games I play in OSX, natively).

  21. Re:No wonder Apple wants to stop Psystar by michrech · · Score: 1 · on Psystar Offers $399 "OpenMac" Computer

    This and this will get you started.

    I'm using the following parts:

    Ultra Wizard mid-tower (free after $40 rebate, no shipping, from Frys)
    Thermaltake 500w "Modular" power supply
    Intel "Bad Axe 2"
    Intel E4500 (Allendale) C2D 2.2ghz processor
    2GB G.Skill DDR
    80gb Seagate SATA HDD
    IDE CD-RW/DVD-RW (LiteOn or AOpen, I forget, doesn't matter)
    nVidia 8600gts PCIe video

    Works great with OSX, though the machine spends most of its time in XP (Can't play the games I play in OSX, natively).

  22. Re:No wonder Apple wants to stop Psystar by michrech · · Score: 1 · on Psystar Offers $399 "OpenMac" Computer

    This and this will get you started.

    I'm using the following parts:

    Ultra Wizard mid-tower (free after $40 rebate, no shipping, from Frys)
    Thermaltake 500w "Modular" power supply
    Intel "Bad Axe 2"
    Intel E4500 (Allendale) C2D 2.2ghz processor
    2GB G.Skill DDR
    80gb Seagate SATA HDD
    IDE CD-RW/DVD-RW (LiteOn or AOpen, I forget, doesn't matter)
    nVidia 8600gts PCIe video

    Works great with OSX, though the machine spends most of its time in XP (Can't play the games I play in OSX, natively).

  23. Re:Bigger issue than glare by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1 · on Laptops Screens, Glare or Matte?

    What exactly is it about monitors that makes smart people into retards, or at least "geometry-challenged"?

    To replace your 4:3 20" monitor you'd need a... 4:3 20" monitor. Do you realize that the 24" widescreen monitors are basically (but not exactly, due to different pixel sizes) 20" ones with some extra width? Not only are they not smaller, or even the same, they're a good deal larger in every way possible. Perhaps some numbers will make this perfectly clear:

    20" 1600x1200 -- Pixels: 1 920 000; Width: 40.6cm; Height: 30.5cm
    22" 1680x1050 -- Pixels: 1 764 000; Width: 47.4cm; Height: 29.6cm
    24" 1920x1200 -- Pixels: 2 304 000; Width: 51.7cm; Height: 32.3cm

    So, with the 22" you lose 150px and 8mm of height, but gain 80px and 7cm of width. But that's not what you want, so with the 24" you gain 320px and 11cm of width, as well as 2cm of height, for a total of 384 000 extra pixels and 430 cm^2 of area. These are roughly 20 to 30% increases for the same amount of much, much more useless dollars. Doesn't sound like gouging to me.

    And really, what's so hard about finding good non-widescreen monitors? Just because your workplace isn't buying any doesn't mean they don't exist. Here, this took me less than a minute:
    NEC, Eizo, LaCie

  24. Re:Bigger issue than glare by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1 · on Laptops Screens, Glare or Matte?

    What exactly is it about monitors that makes smart people into retards, or at least "geometry-challenged"?

    To replace your 4:3 20" monitor you'd need a... 4:3 20" monitor. Do you realize that the 24" widescreen monitors are basically (but not exactly, due to different pixel sizes) 20" ones with some extra width? Not only are they not smaller, or even the same, they're a good deal larger in every way possible. Perhaps some numbers will make this perfectly clear:

    20" 1600x1200 -- Pixels: 1 920 000; Width: 40.6cm; Height: 30.5cm
    22" 1680x1050 -- Pixels: 1 764 000; Width: 47.4cm; Height: 29.6cm
    24" 1920x1200 -- Pixels: 2 304 000; Width: 51.7cm; Height: 32.3cm

    So, with the 22" you lose 150px and 8mm of height, but gain 80px and 7cm of width. But that's not what you want, so with the 24" you gain 320px and 11cm of width, as well as 2cm of height, for a total of 384 000 extra pixels and 430 cm^2 of area. These are roughly 20 to 30% increases for the same amount of much, much more useless dollars. Doesn't sound like gouging to me.

    And really, what's so hard about finding good non-widescreen monitors? Just because your workplace isn't buying any doesn't mean they don't exist. Here, this took me less than a minute:
    NEC, Eizo, LaCie

  25. Re:Bigger issue than glare by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1 · on Laptops Screens, Glare or Matte?

    What exactly is it about monitors that makes smart people into retards, or at least "geometry-challenged"?

    To replace your 4:3 20" monitor you'd need a... 4:3 20" monitor. Do you realize that the 24" widescreen monitors are basically (but not exactly, due to different pixel sizes) 20" ones with some extra width? Not only are they not smaller, or even the same, they're a good deal larger in every way possible. Perhaps some numbers will make this perfectly clear:

    20" 1600x1200 -- Pixels: 1 920 000; Width: 40.6cm; Height: 30.5cm
    22" 1680x1050 -- Pixels: 1 764 000; Width: 47.4cm; Height: 29.6cm
    24" 1920x1200 -- Pixels: 2 304 000; Width: 51.7cm; Height: 32.3cm

    So, with the 22" you lose 150px and 8mm of height, but gain 80px and 7cm of width. But that's not what you want, so with the 24" you gain 320px and 11cm of width, as well as 2cm of height, for a total of 384 000 extra pixels and 430 cm^2 of area. These are roughly 20 to 30% increases for the same amount of much, much more useless dollars. Doesn't sound like gouging to me.

    And really, what's so hard about finding good non-widescreen monitors? Just because your workplace isn't buying any doesn't mean they don't exist. Here, this took me less than a minute:
    NEC, Eizo, LaCie

  26. Re:Sigh by xyxvv · · Score: 1 · on Nvidia CEO "Not Afraid" of CPU-GPU Hybrids

    I'd say bare minimum go with the 8500GT w/ 128 bit memory path and GDDR3 memory, I've used a few of the ones there from MSI and taken them up to 720MHz core, 1470Ram, they get respectable FPS in older games and current games on low to medium settings, keep in mind tho that the bade 8500GT uses only 64bit GDDR2 memory clocked at 600Mhz with a core clock of only 450Mhz, so even with over clocking a base model card's core to 720Mhz the slower memory and narrower bit path will hold you back. You can't add different ram or widen the memory path on your own. next step would either be an 8600GT GDDR3, beware the GDDR2 models still floating around, the 8600GT's have 32 stream processors compared to the 85's 16, theres a few with some nice after market coolers already mounted on them, I even saw a few with dual slot rear exhausting coolers so that most of the heat can be directly vented from the case instead of recirculated in the case. Alternatively, the 7600GT, while now kind of rare is around as fast or faster then the 8600GT and in some cases the 8600GTS, the 8600GTS is pretty much an over clocked 8600GT. The next step there would be either something like the old 7900GS which is as fast or usually a little faster then the 8600GTS, but is also getting quite rare, leaving the 9600GT, which as another stated gets good performance but the dipping to only 15FPS sounds like more of a limitation of his Internet connection then a limitation of the card. The next up is the 9600GT and will wipes and for not much more then that usually you will find the 8800GT, which is pretty much were any benefits at 1280x1024 ceases to matter much for anything save Crysis, which I think is more a problem of a shittly designed game then the fault of the hardware, since with a machine pushing a $1000 CPU, 8Gb of ram and around a grand worth of GPUs linked together in SLI/Crossfire can barely pull 30FPS at something like 1600x1200, when you compare that to the previous gen's "ultimate torture test title" of Oblivion that only had trouble doing that outdoors. If you're running AGP then your options are limited, the fastest Nvidia card was the 7950GT if I remember right but the fastest possible card is the recently released AMD HD3850 which can hold it's own very nicely in most games. Heres a selection of various cards I'd go for for various reasons http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2010380048%201305520548%201068409614&OEMMark=1%2C0&PropertyCodeValue=3055%3A20548%2C685%3A9618%2C685%3A9619%2C685%3A37188%2C684%3A9614&bop=And&CompareItemList=N82E16814127295%2CN82E16814127306%2CN82E16814127284%2CN82E16814130332%2CN82E16814150276%2CN82E16814127329%2CN82E16814127325 The difference between card manufacturers isn't usually that big a deal, but some stand out, MSI is trying to make a name for themselves so are adding after market coolers to most cards they offer as well as ship them with a small over clock, most companies do this though, but it just seems to me that MSI is picking better coolers this time around from most other makers. EVGA has, last I checked, a step up program, which gives you the option that if a new card model is released within 90 days of your purchase you can upgrade for the difference if any in price, but I don't know if this applies to all cards. Which may or may not matter with rumors of new low and mid range Nvidia cards being released soon, so you could go with an 8500GT now and if a newer, faster card (E.G. a 9500GT)is released for only about $5 more then you paid EVGA should hook you up. The last one which I don't think I picked cards from because I don't know if this is true is BFG, I've heard th

  27. Re:Sigh by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1 · on Nvidia CEO "Not Afraid" of CPU-GPU Hybrids

    Hmmm, well I don't know that game in particular however in general I think a 7600GS should work ok. That's enough to run WoW at a decent rez with decent settings. It's also one of the few models available for AGP (the AGP market is getting real thin these days). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121064 is a link to buy it.

    If you got a system with PCIe, there's more options, but AGP is being phased out so there's less cards available for it.

    If you need more power, you'll have to get a card with a fan, and then get an aftermarket heatsink.

    As for PCI, not possible. PCI lacks the bandwidth to do high end graphics. You just won't find anything with a decent amount of power on PCI.

  28. Re:Already big in little markets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on VIA Announces Open Source Driver Initiative

    VIA sells many other Linux computers, such at the VA1500V.

    Not the best performance, but damn are they cheap.

  29. Chaintech AV-710 by Manfesto · · Score: 1 · on $90 Asus Sound Card Whips Creative's Best

    I was going to plug the Chaintech AV-710, but it's apparently been discontinued - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829120103

    A real shame - in audiophile circles, this was known as a great value card. Its heart was the Via Envy24 chip, which M-Audio uses (used?) in a number of their audiophile cards. If you spend most of your time listening to music and not necessarily producing it (the AV710 doesn't have any ins), for a mere $30, you got 24-bit/192KHz audio!

    AV-710 + M-Audio Studiophile Monitors = awesome sonic accuracy on a relatively tight budget.

    (for the uninitiated, Accurate Sound != Good Sound. Flat frequency response makes most overproduced music sound a bit weird :)

    When it comes to sound quality, IMHO (not that I've ABX'd, so please take with a grain of salt), the AV-710, like all Envy24 cards, eats Creative cards for breakfast.

    Anybody know of a currently available Envy24 card for cheap?

  30. True, but for a limited product range. by Visaris · · Score: 1 · on AMD To Shed 10% of Its Workforce

    > Intel currently makes a better processor, plain and simple.

    That is true on the high end of the CPU market, as Intel's QX9770 proves with a commanding price of $1,499.99 vs. AMD's top price of around $235 on the Phenom 9850. The problem is your lack of a definition for the word "better." In the dual- tri- and low-end quad-core market, AMD does pretty well with performance/price.

  31. True, but for a limited product range. by Visaris · · Score: 1 · on AMD To Shed 10% of Its Workforce

    > Intel currently makes a better processor, plain and simple.

    That is true on the high end of the CPU market, as Intel's QX9770 proves with a commanding price of $1,499.99 vs. AMD's top price of around $235 on the Phenom 9850. The problem is your lack of a definition for the word "better." In the dual- tri- and low-end quad-core market, AMD does pretty well with performance/price.

  32. So they say by esocid · · Score: 1 · on Ray Tracing To Debut in DirectX 11

    It also obviates the need for the GPU which has stolen much of the limelight in recent years.
    So that $250 EVGA 8800GTS I just bought soon will be used for a doorstop? I haven't even checked out the DX10 with it, I'm still kicking DX9. I may test out the vista x64 ultimate and see how crysis runs there as opposed to xp, which I doubt will be that dramatic. I somehow don't see gpus disappearing when dx11 premieres since not many people will actually have 8 or 16 core cpus.

    As DirectX 11 is a work in progress, Microsoft does not have an exact timeline. But the source claims that DirectX 11 could be part of Windows Vista by late 2008.
    Whew, that makes me feel much better. In lamens terms, that means 2011, give or take 5 years (give).
  33. Re:Good, I hope they don't sell well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Hands-On With the Windows XP-Based Asus Eee PC

    Desktop linux machines have already hit the $200 mark.

    Mirus ($189.99 after rebate)
    Everex ($199.99)
    KPC ($229)
    Limbo ($249)

  34. $399? ya.. ok.. by deathguppie · · Score: 4, Informative · on Hands-On With the Windows XP-Based Asus Eee PC

    I just bought one of the linux base ones from newegg, and I looked around a bit. The midrange 4 gig model sells for about $350, and the 4 gig model with the webcam and a better battery goes for $399, with linux.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=eee+pc&x=0&y=0

    Now they are trying to say that they are going to sell a windows based version bundled with a bunch of other stuff for only $399?

    The only way I see that happening is if Microsoft pays them to do it. If they are selling a smaller bundle with a free operating system for the same price. I call shenanigans.

  35. Re:Alternatives to Creative by navyjeff · · Score: 1 · on Creative Goes After Driver Modder
    I've got an HT Omega Striker. It works perfectly for me under both Ubuntu 7.04 and Windows XP. I'm not sure about Vista, since I'm not going near that OS until the dust settles.

    I had a problem with my onboard audio playing Portal one day. I couldn't bring myself to buy a Creative card after all the bad reviews and such. Now that the Omega is installed, I haven't had a single problem with it and I couldn't be happier. Also from an electrical point of view, it seems like a very well-engineered card with good signal isolation.

  36. Re:What is the standard procedure? by esocid · · Score: 1 · on NVIDIA's Drivers Caused 28.8% Of Vista Crashes In 2007

    I've never had any problem installing ATI or NVIDIA drivers in fedora. In XP I like to stick to Omega drivers. But for the record the ATI card was an x800xl and the NVIDIA a geforce 7900gtoc, soon to be an 8800gts, today.

  37. Re:Misleading article by AlexMax2742 · · Score: 1 · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    If you're upgrading your old computer system, and if you have a retail version of Windows XP (NOT OEM), you are legally entitled to transfer your license from one computer to another. Though if you did get an OEM version (like many PC builders do), you can usually plead ignorance to their tech support if your copy of XP fails to validate.

    Also, $200? You can get an OEM copy of XP Home for 85 bucks, assuming you buy it "qualifying" (like a motherboard...any motherboard). And yes, XP Home does work with multicore CPU's, it just doesn't like more than one physical CPU.

  38. Of course not... by pseudorand · · Score: 1 · on Must a CD Cost $15.99?

    Of course not. CD's only cost about 1/100th that:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817132027

    Of course, that's CD-R, not CD-RW, so if you accidentally go and fill them with some crap from the record companies, then they're ruined and you'll need to buy new ones.

  39. Re:$1200? wtf, more like under $800 for a whole bo by Morrigu · · Score: 1 · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    Promo codes were $10 off the CPU and $10 off the RAM. So that's a $20 difference, or (at most) 3% more than the lower total price. And if you want to clip UPC codes and send in the mail-in rebates, that's another $60 off the price if you go to the effort.

    DVD burners just aren't that expensive in the States. Newegg has a whole bunch of DVD burners (even dual-layer capable and with LightScribe support) for under $40, with some good Samsung and Sony/NEC drives for under $25, including shipping. I haven't spent more than $35 on a new internal CD/DVD burner for 7 or 8 years.

  40. Re:Oh please by linzeal · · Score: 1 · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    $220 video card at Newegg and even an 85 dollar processor and you can play at 1080 at reasonable framrates. Can't do that with my 360 or ps3 there is always a part of a game or an entire game that is completely unplayable at that resolution.

  41. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  42. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  43. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  44. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  45. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  46. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  47. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  48. Re:Consoles always been cheaper by rezalas · · Score: 4, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints

    What is it with all this BS about the PC dying as a gaming rig? What the hell are you doing to jack the price of a PC up to $1,000 ??
    Consoles are the ones that are aging. The prices keep going up while PC gaming prices keep going down. I play all my games at max graphics thusfar and still no problems, and my Monitor on my rig was the most expensive part at $300 (22inch widescreen).
    Lets build a gaming rig to connect to your big living room TV for ... under $500USD Shall we? ($474.42 total infact before shipping.)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz 2 x 512KB L2 - PRICE: $67.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135069ECS A770M-A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD - PRICE: $64.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208353Transcend 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 - PRICE: $66.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144456250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0 - PRICE: $59.49
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X - PRICE: $26.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164060Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - PRICE: $32.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161220Radeon HD 3650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 - PRICE: $124.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16823126174&MainItemList=N82E16823126174Logitec wireless KB/Mouse Cordless Standard Desktop EX110 - PRICE: $29.99

  49. $1200? wtf, more like under $800 for a whole box by Morrigu · · Score: 3, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints
    Here's the little gaming box i spec'd out earlier today from Newegg for $752, including shipping and promo code discounts, and not counting mail-in rebates:

    It's not an uber gaming rig, but it'll play most games fairly decently, and it's only $200 to $300 more expensive than an Xbox 360 or PS3 + accessories. You could drop the 8800GT card down to a 8600GT and save another $110 off the total price, bringing it down to $642.

    By comparison, an Xbox 360 Halo 3 Edition is $415 with shipping, or a PS3 40GB is $413 with shipping.

    It's an apples-to-oranges comparison, but $1200 is not the entry point for PC gaming, and you'd have to go back to the mid to late 1990s to find the last time that it was.
  50. $1200? wtf, more like under $800 for a whole box by Morrigu · · Score: 3, Informative · on NVIDIA Quad SLI Disappoints
    Here's the little gaming box i spec'd out earlier today from Newegg for $752, including shipping and promo code discounts, and not counting mail-in rebates:

    It's not an uber gaming rig, but it'll play most games fairly decently, and it's only $200 to $300 more expensive than an Xbox 360 or PS3 + accessories. You could drop the 8800GT card down to a 8600GT and save another $110 off the total price, bringing it down to $642.

    By comparison, an Xbox 360 Halo 3 Edition is $415 with shipping, or a PS3 40GB is $413 with shipping.

    It's an apples-to-oranges comparison, but $1200 is not the entry point for PC gaming, and you'd have to go back to the mid to late 1990s to find the last time that it was.