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Re: Outer space?
Yes, according to an institution where the world's most corrupt leaders vastly outnumber the West, where mass-murderers head the "Human Rights" council and where Israel is held up to vastly higher standards than the rest.
OK, if you don't believe the UN, let's ask some Jews:
http://livefromoccupiedpalesti...
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/2...
http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Z...
Now please do your best to make ad hominem attacks on those voices, since you don't have any substantive argument to make.
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The Zionist 'State of Israel' is an abomination...
The biggest mistake of the twentieth century was enabling the formation of the modern 'State of Israel' and equating it with divine prophecy and having the same status with biblical Israel. Christian Zionists are the biggest hypocrites for supporting the dead and obsolete way of Judaism. They believe that there is now two peoples of God and discredit their own Gospel of Jesus Christ by saying so. The redemptive act of Christ on the cross is all for naught when you continue to prop up and enable a system that Jesus completed in himself as no other person could have done. For there to be a any national Israel today is to throw away the Kingdom of God that Jesus brought about and is King of, as well as High Priest of, today and forever. Jew are of course free to believe as they wish, but they should also not be hypocrites in asking Christians for help to do something that is antithetical to the core of Christian belief i.e. enable their Judaism.
There is the other side of the argument that we should support the 'State of Israel' because it is a 'bastion of democracy' in the Middle East. To this I would point out that the 'State of Israel' has a parliamentary system, with no constitution, and a unicameral legislature that elects its members using the party-list proportional method that results in persons being appointed before or even after the vote. It has no trial by jury. It has what some countries like South Africa, who ought to know, call an apartheid way of life that is leveled against person both within and without it's borders. It has a socialist foundation for its makeup stemming from the kibbutzim that were used as a foothold in British Mandate Palestine. The kibbutzim were used to create a new 'Israeli' people, separating children from their parents to be raised by proctors that would teach primarily Hebrew as the language, and Israeli nationalist identity to manufacture a people that would not adopt any of the old European languages, habits, mannerisms and traditions from their parents who were immigrantsThere were militias formed even prior to WWII in order to begin taking and securing land for the purpose of forming a new country from the leftovers of the Ottoman empire. There are many questions as to how things could have turned out had Palestine not been the insisted upon destination for the Jewish people, not to mention that even if things hadn't been different, there is no reason they couldn't have just gone back top their homes, and not displaced others from theirs. . The British mandate that was created with the participation of the international community on conditions that there be a two-state solution with Jerusalem as the capital of both states was violated with the midnight declaration of the formation of the 'State of Israel' in 1948. This same international community, which the World Zionist Congress and other Jewish organizations like the Jewish Agency received support from to procure their chief goal, now is considered unwelcome to offer any criticism of the 'State of Israel'. They do not partake in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that the rest of the responsible members of the Nuclear Club abide by. All of this of course doesn't change the fact there are millions of people now in Palestine/'State of Israel' which need to figure something out that is equitable to both 'Israelis' and Palestinians, restitution not being out of the question in my mind. The Jews sought restitution from the world following WWII, why not the displaced Arabs and Palestinians following the Nakba?
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Re:Well
I think you'll find that Muslims are far more tolerant that you'd think, and that the stereotype of them being otherwise is the result of Fox and other right wing sycophants supporting the need for a bad guy to keep people scared. It never ceases to amaze me that nobody wonders what Muslims were doing through the decades when the Commies where the bad guys of the day.
Anyways, if you think that Muslims hate Jews "Just Coz", then you may want to consider the fact that the best time in Jewish history (according to most Jewish historians) was actually when Jews lived in a Muslim state. Here's a titbit from the pages of history that also gets skipped in history classes:
http://www.ataa.org/ataa/ref/jewish/jew-history.ht ml
Even under Israel, the vast majority of Jews do not have the ideological freedom they used to. If you are willing to have pre-conceived ideas challenged, perhaps you'll find the following interesting:
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=5006&aid= 19
http://www.notinmyname.org/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/index.cf m
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/jews_against_zio nism.html
http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/jewish_anti_zion ism.htm
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=7887&aid= 19
DISCLAIMER: I am a Muslim. I have Jewish friends. Lots of them. Jews and Muslims have lived together for centuries, it is just not true that Muslims and Jews hate each other out of some culturally ingrained ideological perception. It is the nationalist incarnation of the Jewish identity in the militant form known as "Zionism" that Muslims and indeed most Jews oppose. Unfortunately, Zionism seems to have the support of the political right in western countries, which is why it *appears* that Muslims oppose the west. We do not. We oppose the occupation being carried out by Israel, in the same say that we oppose any injustice caused by anybody, including other Muslims.
Another titbit that you won't hear mentioned in school: No real Muslim supports the governments of Saudi Arabia or the other monarchical crackpots currently referred to as "the leaders of the Muslim world". These tinpot dictators were put in power at the end of WWI by the allied powers to secure their interests over middle eastern assets such as the Suez Canal and this new stuff called "oil". This policy of putting puppet regimes is so commonplace I don't understand how people can think that fucktards like the king of Saudi Arabia even remotely represent the attitudes and beliefs of Muslims when they have such an incestuous relationship with with the western neo-nobles like the Bush family.
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Are you really an idiot?
I know because I follow the news over there very closely.
It comes as no surprise to me that you are following Fox news very closely. Do you really find it strange that the Palestinians would like the Israelis to leave?
If you denounce UN resolutions and claim they have no credibility, what right do you think Israelis have to claim land in Palestine?
And please don't point at obscure bible quotes. There are a lot of othodox Jews claiming the that the current state of Israel has no foundation in the bible. What you need to do is take a bath, relax and start thinking outside of the little box full of pre-fabricated bible-study group propaganda. If you need help and want to challenge your own thinking, please have a look at this website. -
Bible wielding maniac...
Those arguments have been put forward by many bible wielding maniacs before you. Your arguments are based on your view of the bible as being the only true source of information. (Guess what? Full text search of Moby Dick for "Gaza" returned zero results! Hmmm.)
If the Koran does not make statements about claiming land from other people then I am all for it.
Can I claim Gaza if I write a book saying that I have a "right" to that area?
Also, there are many orthodox Jews that are on the Palestinians side.In order for you to get back on track with your life I suggest you talk to this guy.
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Re:Thinnly veiled anti-semitism
You object to Sharon, but support Arafat?
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Re:The means of getting there is the best part
I dont think you represent true honest jews