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You can run it on older machines, but the efficiency is impressive.

http://www.editpadlite.com/
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

And of course Opera

http://www.opera.no/

Can't go back to Firefox or IE after using this wonder.

I don't have an opinion on Apple or the iPhone, but I prefer that software innovations come before hardware because they produce less landfill. I had to laugh when I saw how the iPhone's "innovative" interface resembles what Opera, the browser uses for its startup screen as of version 9.22 -- a tactile, tiled favorites menu. In ten years, the iPhones will all be in landfills and Opera will be on version 18, without having contributed any landfill. Can we please stop the waste insanity? My grandchildren will have to survive on this planet and they'd like to have some open, unpolluted spaces.

That FF is buggy is no big revelation. The fact that the source is open to peer review (an OSS advantage) and scrutiny means that there is hope. However, having tried Firefox 2.0b I've noticed it still suffers from chronic memory leaks -- which even seem to permeate into the X server. With a desktop uptime that's measured in months, although KDE does save session state, running such resource corrupting desktop apps isn't an option. I certainly cannot recommend FF to anyone with a PC with less than 1GB RAM, Windows or otherwise. Why consider FF when there better alternatives, such as Opera (closed) and Konqueror (open).

And yes, that's Mozilla, not Firefox, and I probably should either upgrade to 1.7.12 or else use real Firefox, but it's convenient to have a browser install that has all the parts and most of the plugins working with it. I haven't hunted down the offending pages, or tried them in Opera yet to see if they crash it; if I'm going to bother doing that, I should upgrade the browser first.

The sad thing is that it also comes on the heels of zdnet.com claiming that Firefox is having significantly more security issues than IE.

I guess, though, this does give some credence to the "security through obscurity" theory, as the number and frequency of issues seems to have increased as Firefox adoption has increased. And if that's the case, can we expect to see these issues become even more frequent if Firefox adoption continues to grow?

All the arguments that open source is more secure because there are more eyes to spot problems and more hands to fix them are starting to ring a bit hollow as I upgrade/patch my Firefox install on what seems like a monthly basis.

Given, I still trust MSFT as far as I can throw a Volkswagen, but my laughs at their FUD aren't so loud or haughty today.

- Greg

Now I just need a stylesheet so that Keynote presentations can be viewed on the web with OperaShow. I don't need flashy animations, so for me a web document that can be referred to later by my listeners is a much better presentation.

Their deal with Macromedia should help, too.

This is exactly how I get my morning news from Slashdot and WND. I use Opera, so I just Ctrl-Shift click all the headlines that look interesting, and click to the next section when that's done. I read all the opened pages, closing as I go. Then I am back to the original window which now has a new page, and I repeat.

Options to never prefetch on certain sites, or to prefetch every link on certain sites, would eliminate this step for me. But OTOH I'd be closing quite a few pages that I wasn't interested in. The "never on this site" option is a must, though, just like per-site cookie and JS filters. Some sites, no matter how reputable, are a little overzealous when applying new technology.

I'd like to see rel="next" links automatically used for prefetching just like rel="prefetch". Some pages (multi-page articles) already have these, so this feature would be useful immediately.

At least they've got a web browser ready to go in place of IE. Any other home-grown Norwegian software solutions?

If you are looking for cheap, maintainable, stable software to replace your current Windows environment, then look into this :

Slackware Linux.
KDE.
OpenOffice (maybe StarOffice or Hancom Office or KOffice).
Mozilla (or maybe Netscape 6 or Opera).
The GIMP.
XMMS.
MPlayer.
GNUCash (or maybe Kapital).
Evolution.
NEdit.

Or if you need anything else, check out Freshmeat.

I use HTML for my presentations. Really.

Next thing: Powerpoint leaves no traces. You can't take it with you unless the presenter prints it out, which is an insult to the information carrying ability of paper. You can't refer to something that used to be projected up on a wall but now isn't. Often, the presentation itself is of little use if the presenter isn't speaking any more.

I use OperaShow for this very reason. Problem solved. Like you said, content is everything. Include more content, combine it with content transformation, and voilà! One version for the demo, one version for later reference, and only one document.

is OPERA!.. The FP machine!..

Lynx has had it almost forever. Mosaic had it. Even though I'd been using <link rel="author"> since I started making web pages, I first realized the possibilities when I saw it in iCab. There are a few others. Here are a few good articles about it.

• Jakob Nielsen's structural navigation article
• Sander's <link> page (Sander now works for Opera)
• Matthias' browser page

If the same exact page renders completely different in two different browsers, then how is that not following the standard?

Cheers...

I've never used Opera myself; is the functionality to change the user-agent string built into the browser?

Opera provides a couple pre-defined strings you can use that spoof other browsers while still saying "Opera" somewhere. OTOH, iCab allows user-definable UA strings as well as providing some pre-defined ones, IIRC.

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for achieving first post you have to use Opera. That's what I use.. :)

Netscape 4 was the first browser I saw where the CSS was somewhat useful. Does anyone remember how badly IE 3 sucked? Sure, you have to limit yourself to a small subset (fonts, colors, some basic floats and alignment) but that subset is useful.

A year ago at this time I still restricted myself pretty much to that subset. Now, however, I am using CSS2 features pretty freely. N4 knows zilch about CSS2, so it's pretty safe, as opposed to certain CSS1 properties that it tries to work with and screws up. With Mozilla very stable (meaning a good N6 is just around the corner) and Opera (nearly ready on Linux and Mac) I feel pretty confident using CSS. I haven't used a FONT tag since 1997, and I've been validating my markup almost religiously for about 3 years.

Get ready for tomorrow today. N4 is dead. If the N4 folks complain, point them to Opera, or iCab if they're using a Mac.

Precisely! Microsoft did the web an injustive when it went down the path of spoofing as Mozilla. Once they did, everybody had to. What would be so wrong with identifying as what you really are?

I always set my browsers (Opera, iCab) to ID correctly. If the site blocks me because they're using some idiotic detection script, I write the webmaster a nice letter. I'd love to see a button in the UI of these browsers to pop up a form letter to the page author or webmaster@<domain>.

Use Opera. It has a handy 3-way image toggle button right in the window. The user has final control, no matter how badly dee-zyne-ers want to usurp it.

I personally could use an agent that would keep an eye on all the websites I frequent

The closest I can think of that's currently available is Opera, which allows you to open a directory full of bookmarks simultaneously. I keep all my online funnys in there and open about 10 browser windows with one click when I get to my desk...

Damnit, I'm plugging Opera again. Sorry!

Netscape isn't the only other browser on the market apart from IE, though... in terms of market share, they are the two dominant browsers, but what about the users of browsers like Opera, a new version of which was released... yesterday. Download it now. You know it makes sense.

here

opera.com is dreadfully slow (prolly /.ed). I found the response at opera.no to be much better.