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http://www.palemoon.org/ . It's an optimized x64 version of Firefox, ridden of many of its nonsense and some of the less useful features (activeX support, UI quirks, parental control, accessibility etc.) Maybe it's just what you need.

I don't remember where I spotted it first, but PaleMoon is a FF fork that's dumped a lot of the stupid design decisions and supports 64-bit. I've been quite happy with it since I discovered it, and it can't be worse than the newest FF versions.

http://www.palemoon.org/

Or use the button to disable shaped like a "gear" to disable it...

Which works right up to the point where Mozilla removes this feature, as they have removed so many other features.

Look, I get that programmers are expensive and Mozilla needs to pay the bills somehow, but maybe if they just focused on security concerns instead of trying to re-invent the browser every other version they wouldn't need so many programmers?

Sadly, there is still little alternative to Firefox. Palemoon has a host of compatibility issues with many add-ons, Chrome is Google spyware, and Opera and Chromium just don't have the range of add-ons that Firefox has.

https://www.palemoon.org/

Click the link, and read. Browse the forum. They are very upfront about the fact that they are NOT Firefox, haven't been for some time, and never will be again. I think that fits the definition of "fork".

Maybe you meant to say "Iron Browser" rather than Chrome. The official Chrome or Chromium from Google scoops up more data than Firefox even dreams about.

http://www.srware.net/en/softw...

Yeah, I like Iron pretty well, but I'm growing to like Pale Moon better.

https://www.palemoon.org/

And, if those don't suit you, you can always go with this one.

http://lynx.browser.org/

The memory footprint for that last one is almost invisible on a 4 GB system!

Go and get some Pale Moon.

http://www.palemoon.org/

Classic Firefox UI, developer ignores moronic Mozilla decisions, has 64-bit Windows version out of the box.

Plus one on Palemoon, I have been using it for years, and I love it. https://www.palemoon.org/

Chrome, Dooble, Pale Moon, Superbird, Vivaldi ...

"dishonest *** who take money from Google to whitelist their ads"

CEOs should accept that I use an ad blocker. If I didn't have an ad blocker, I would be more aware of their ads and would probably be successful in getting some of the CEOs fired for dishonesty and incompetence.

Adblock Edge is a fork of the Adblock Plus(R) version 2.1.2 extension for blocking advertisements on the web. Adblock Edge was primarily branched off from Adblock Plus(R) 2.1.2 source code package "https://adblockplus.org/downloads/adblockplus-2.1.2-source.tgz" created by Wladimir Palant.

Adblock Edge will be discontinued in June 2015 in favor of uBlock , a general purpose blocker that not only outperforms Adblock Edge but is also available on other browsers and, of course, without "Acceptable Ads Whitelist".***

Pale Moon x64 is Firefox with adult supervision. With Pale Moon, use AdBlock Latitude.

Firefox is becoming less and less stable. It's so unstable that it often doesn't report crashes, so the crash reports aren't reliable, they show far fewer crashes than actually occurred. The underlying problem is that Mozilla Foundation needs better management. At present, Mozilla Foundation management is sometimes excellent and sometimes very unreliable.

"dishonest *** who take money from Google to whitelist their ads"

CEOs should accept that I use an ad blocker. If I didn't have an ad blocker, I would be more aware of their ads and would probably be successful in getting some of the CEOs fired for dishonesty and incompetence.

Adblock Edge is a fork of the Adblock Plus(R) version 2.1.2 extension for blocking advertisements on the web. Adblock Edge was primarily branched off from Adblock Plus(R) 2.1.2 source code package "https://adblockplus.org/downloads/adblockplus-2.1.2-source.tgz" created by Wladimir Palant.

Adblock Edge will be discontinued in June 2015 in favor of uBlock , a general purpose blocker that not only outperforms Adblock Edge but is also available on other browsers and, of course, without "Acceptable Ads Whitelist".***

Pale Moon x64 is Firefox with adult supervision. With Pale Moon, use AdBlock Latitude.

Firefox is becoming less and less stable. It's so unstable that it often doesn't report crashes, so the crash reports aren't reliable, they show far fewer crashes than actually occurred. The underlying problem is that Mozilla Foundation needs better management. At present, Mozilla Foundation management is sometimes excellent and sometimes very unreliable.

Anonymous Troll: "The struggle now is how to keep people from destroying things. FireFox is a disaster. Gnome is useless. Seems like people take over these projects and tear them to pieces."

'Pale Moon is an Open Source, Firefox-based web browser available for Microsoft Windows, Android and Linux (with other operating systems in development), focusing on efficiency and ease of use. Make sure to get the most out of your browser!'

It's a branch of firefox, basically the same thing without all the bullshit. I've been using mainly chromium(chrome branch) for the better part of two years. The chromium branch is the same as chrome minus the tracking components stripped out. For anyone interested you can grab the prebuilt here or grab the uncompiled version from the repository here and build your own.

That'll be https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/.

Sadly, despite being a long-term FF user, it pains me to say it's far easier is to switch to Palemoon; it's a minimal effort and the result is firefox without all the BS (Palemoon being a firefox fork/tracker that values functionality over hipster cool)

Use Adblock Edge. By hiding what it was doing, Adblock Plus has killed itself.

By hiding what it was doing when it sneakily adopted Microsoft Bing search, calling it Yahoo search, Mozilla Foundation has done irreparable harm to Firefox. Mozilla Foundation seems to be driving users to the Pale Moon 64-bit version of Firefox with Adblock Latitude.

Use Adblock Edge. By hiding what it was doing, Adblock Plus has killed itself.

By hiding what it was doing when it sneakily adopted Microsoft Bing search, calling it Yahoo search, Mozilla Foundation has done irreparable harm to Firefox. Mozilla Foundation seems to be driving users to the Pale Moon 64-bit version of Firefox with Adblock Latitude.

"Pale Moon is an Open Source, Firefox-based web browser available for Microsoft Windows, Android and Linux (with other operating systems in development), focusing on efficiency and ease of use. Make sure to get the most out of your browser! link

Pale Moon 64-bit is Firefox without the "self-induced failure" mentioned in the parent comment.

Pale Moon with Adblock Latitude is AdBlock Plus without the corruption mentioned in this story: Google, Amazon 'n' pals fork out for AdBlock Plus 'unblock' -- report

It is not necessary to use the Classic Theme Restorer add-on in Pale Moon because Pale Moon didn't change the user interface.

Firefox is becoming less and less stable. When many windows and tabs are open, the memory usage begins increasing even when there is no activity, and then Firefox crashes. Now, in recent versions, Firefox crashes but often doesn't report the crashes. The screen just becomes black. The crash reports aren't reliable, they show far fewer crashes than actually occurred.

Yahoo paid Mozilla Foundation to change the search configuration of Firefox, without notifying users. Most users of Firefox don't now how to change it back. Instead, they may change to another browser. See this Slashdot story: Firefox Signs Five-Year Deal With Yahoo, Drops Google as Default Search Engine. But "Yahoo search" is just Microsoft Bing search. It's mind-bending: Microsoft is paying Yahoo to corrupt Firefox.

The newest version of Firefox took the "Duplicate Tab" choice out of the right-click menu of each tab, and put that choice in the right-click menu of the displayed page. Often, however, right-clicking on the page itself brings up a different menu because of the way the page is coded underneath the mouse pointer. So it may be necessary to try right-clicking on several areas of the page to find the Duplicate Tab menu choice.

In Pale Moon, the right-click menu contains the "Duplicate Tab" choice in both the tab and the displayed page.

Apparently Mozilla Foundation is trying to discourage the use of the Thunderbird email client. The newest version of Thunderbird, 31.4.0, has the Save-As bug. All file saves are Save As, and suggest a different file name than the name with which the email was saved before. The Save-As bug was reported in September 2014, and has not been fixed in more than 4 months. Is it possible that the bug is deliberate?

I haven't found the bug report of the Save-As bug in Thunderbird. Here is the report for SeaMonkey Composer, the same software that Thunderbird uses: When I click save, the button does what Save As should do, even if I previously saved said file.

Other obvious bugs were recently introduced into Thunderbird. For example, the fields for email addresses are now much more difficult to read.

Pale Moon has been removing some of the issues in their FossaMail version of Thunderbird. I haven't tested it to see if the Save-As bug is fixed.

The underlying problem is that Mozilla Foundation needs better management. At present, Mozilla Foundation management is sometimes excellent and sometimes very unreliable.

Pale Moon 64-bit is Firefox without the "self-induced failure" mentioned in the parent comment.

Pale Moon with Adblock Latitude is AdBlock Plus without the corruption mentioned in this story: Google, Amazon 'n' pals fork out for AdBlock Plus 'unblock' -- report

It is not necessary to use the Classic Theme Restorer add-on in Pale Moon because Pale Moon didn't change the user interface.

Firefox is becoming less and less stable. When many windows and tabs are open, the memory usage begins increasing even when there is no activity, and then Firefox crashes. Now, in recent versions, Firefox crashes but often doesn't report the crashes. The screen just becomes black. The crash reports aren't reliable, they show far fewer crashes than actually occurred.

Yahoo paid Mozilla Foundation to change the search configuration of Firefox, without notifying users. Most users of Firefox don't now how to change it back. Instead, they may change to another browser. See this Slashdot story: Firefox Signs Five-Year Deal With Yahoo, Drops Google as Default Search Engine. But "Yahoo search" is just Microsoft Bing search. It's mind-bending: Microsoft is paying Yahoo to corrupt Firefox.

The newest version of Firefox took the "Duplicate Tab" choice out of the right-click menu of each tab, and put that choice in the right-click menu of the displayed page. Often, however, right-clicking on the page itself brings up a different menu because of the way the page is coded underneath the mouse pointer. So it may be necessary to try right-clicking on several areas of the page to find the Duplicate Tab menu choice.

In Pale Moon, the right-click menu contains the "Duplicate Tab" choice in both the tab and the displayed page.

Apparently Mozilla Foundation is trying to discourage the use of the Thunderbird email client. The newest version of Thunderbird, 31.4.0, has the Save-As bug. All file saves are Save As, and suggest a different file name than the name with which the email was saved before. The Save-As bug was reported in September 2014, and has not been fixed in more than 4 months. Is it possible that the bug is deliberate?

I haven't found the bug report of the Save-As bug in Thunderbird. Here is the report for SeaMonkey Composer, the same software that Thunderbird uses: When I click save, the button does what Save As should do, even if I previously saved said file.

Other obvious bugs were recently introduced into Thunderbird. For example, the fields for email addresses are now much more difficult to read.

Pale Moon has been removing some of the issues in their FossaMail version of Thunderbird. I haven't tested it to see if the Save-As bug is fixed.

The underlying problem is that Mozilla Foundation needs better management. At present, Mozilla Foundation management is sometimes excellent and sometimes very unreliable.

Get rid of Firefox and use Palemoon http://www.palemoon.org/ and then install AdBlock Latitude https://addons.palemoon.org/ex... You'll wonder what all the fuss is about after you wrestle your old UI back from Firefox and have all your ads blocked by a reputable organization (Palemoon) that won't sell out to the dark side like AdBlock Plus did. These two greedy companies need more people to jump ship and make a statement. Do your part. You'll be glad you did.

Get rid of Firefox and use Palemoon http://www.palemoon.org/ and then install AdBlock Latitude https://addons.palemoon.org/ex... You'll wonder what all the fuss is about after you wrestle your old UI back from Firefox and have all your ads blocked by a reputable organization (Palemoon) that won't sell out to the dark side like AdBlock Plus did. These two greedy companies need more people to jump ship and make a statement. Do your part. You'll be glad you did.

http://www.palemoon.org/

It feels "less quirky" than Seamonkey, and some of the Extensions that I have used for years ( Like Tree Style Tab) work with PaleMoon while they don't in Seamonkey.

And with the "Firefox 3 Theme for Firefox 4+ Reloaded" I finally feel at home again on the Internet.

If you are up for alternatives to Firefox, Palemoon is a fork of it from before the UI turned to poo. Most Firefox extension I have tried with it work for me, including Tree Style Tab.

I just defected to Pale Moon two month ago.

Absolutely brilliant. Firefox as it used to be. Configurable like it was in the good old days, with that Australis interface ripped out. (And even returned to a sane version numbering scheme lately).

TreeStyle Tab works for vertical tabs (in contrast to SeaMonkey, where it doesnt), and with "Firefox 3 Theme for Firefox 4++ Reloaded" it works, looks and behaves exactly as the Firefox did in its best days. I finally feel "at home" again on the Internet without being irked by unexpected UI surprises all the time.

Pale Moon for the win !!!!

I switched from Firefox about two months ago and I haven't looked back.

Take back the web with Pale Moon :)

I learned that Microsoft PAYS people to use Bing search! But people only get paid if they do Bing searches directly, not through Yahoo.

I don't understand how that works. Can someone make a software robot to do searches and visit ads, and then get paid? Why have a job when your computer can make money unaided?

Microsoft pays Yahoo, Yahoo then paid Mozilla Foundation to sneakily make Bing the default search engine, and not Google search, realizing that most people don't have the technical ability to know why their search results have begun to be less relevant.

So:

1) To get people to use its search engine, Microsoft feels that it is necessary to pay. That is an acknowledgement that Microsoft's Bing search is not of sufficient quality to do well without payment.

2) 31% of Yahoo's revenue comes from Microsoft paying it to use Bing.

3) That, basically, is an ad campaign to sell other browsers. As mentioned above, Yahoo paid Mozilla Foundation to change the search configuration of Firefox, without notice. I imagine that most people won't know what went wrong or how to re-configure Firefox. When people have problems with Firefox, they may switch to another browser, like Google's Chrome, or Pale Moon's 64-bit version of Firefox.

4) People may think they are using Yahoo search, but there is no such thing as "Yahoo search". Actually, without being notified, Yahoo customers are using Microsoft Bing search, and their search information is being given to Microsoft.

5) Microsoft pays Yahoo to use Bing. Yahoo pays Firefox to use Bing. Eventually, when the news about why Bing use is increasing is more widely known, people who don't feel comfortable with that sneaky behavior may switch to Google Chrome. In effect, Microsoft is paying for a powerful ad campaign to get people to switch to another browser.

6) Those who want to be paid by Microsoft must use Bing directly, not through Yahoo.

7) The trickiness and dishonesty may cause further collapse of Yahoo. In effect, Yahoo is being paid by Microsoft to decrease the popularity of Yahoo.

8) In effect, Microsoft is paying Mozilla Foundation to make Firefox less popular.

9) That may be a way to artificially increase Bing's search traffic, But It's Not Good (BING). To me, that's another example of Microsoft DIE, the Dastardly Insertion of Evil.

10) And, of course, all of that is bad for Microsoft's already bad reputation because of being adversarial to customers, decreasing the popularity of anything from Microsoft. So, Microsoft is paying to decrease the popularity of Microsoft.

That is so WEIRD that I feel compelled to joke about it. (WEIRD = When Every Idea Rates Dumb)

You should give PaleMoon a try. Firefox without all the GUI madness of the last few years.

Also, I noticed this quote from the Firefox Hello page:
"Recently, we introduced Firefox Hello, the first global communications system built directly into a browser to help make things easier."

Have they never heard of Virtual Places? It was a browser with built-in chat rooms for each web page. Every web page you visited put you in a chat with everyone else on that page. There were avatars you moved around on the page, and "gestures" and, whatever. This was 1994 or so...

If the issue is that firefox's new UI melts your face when you open the box, that's what pale moon is intended to fix. Here, have a portable version http://www.palemoon.org/palemo...

No idea if it will have the "shaking" problem with whatever plugin you've got for a multi-layered tab bar.

Pale Moon x64 is Firefox with adult supervision.

Firefox is becoming less and less stable. It's so unstable that it often doesn't report crashes, so the crash reports aren't reliable, they show far fewer crashes than actually occurred.

The underlying problem is that Mozilla Foundation needs better management. At present, Mozilla Foundation management is sometimes excellent and sometimes very unreliable.

I like Palemoon too, but new users should be aware that the switch will probably cause problems because - despite some claims to the contrary - it isn't 100% compatible with Firefox add-ons. Admittedly, this is more often the fault of the add-on developers, but since the add-ons are usually the primary thing keeping people on Firefox, some extra consideration should be given before switching to its competitor. Especially since it has problems with so many big-name add-ons

Some examples: AdBlock Plus & AdBlock Edged (no menu or toolbar icon, so can't easily change options or disable), HTTPS Everywhere (does not function), Self-Destructing Cookies (does not function), Greasemonkey & Scriptish (do not function), Google Privacy (does not function), DOM Inspector (does not work), Privacy Badger (nope, not this one either), TabMixPlus (partly functional), AutoPager (nope) and dozens more.

(see Known Incompatible Add-Ons for the complete list).

I use Palemoon myself, but this lack of complete compatibility is actually making me reconsider going back to Firefox (at least with Firefox I can correct more egregious mistakes made by Mozilla through more add-ons). I hope that Palemoon figures out a way to improve compatibility but unfortunately the above list just seems to be getting longer and never shorter. New users should definitely look over the incompatibility list before they make the switch.

Please look into Pale Moon.

Built from Firefox sources, it is the closest thing to the lightweight and flexible browser that Firefox promised to be that I'm aware of.

Linux, Windows, Mac, Android, etc.

Most of them still work afaik. They just lose some interface components.

As far as I know, key extensions have been forked by the volunteer group behind the browser here:
http://addons.palemoon.org/fir...

And reason wasn't a "moral stand" but reality that Pale Moon isn't going to implement Australis, as a result add-ons designed to work with Australis will have broken interface components.
So it needs to tell add-ons to use the old UI elements, and to do so, it needs to tell add-ons that's it's not Firefox.

There are some really great distros that are based on said sources:

Pale Moon is an open source alternative to FireFox:
http://www.palemoon.org/

SRWare Iron is a Chromium project:
http://www.srware.net/en/softw...

http://www.palemoon.org/palemo...

64-bit and rock solid and steadily improving. I have no complaints.

Pale Moon is still at version 25.0.

On Pale Moon I use "Adblock Edge". It works great!

I'd dump Firefox if there was a viable alternative. It uses less RAM than the competition and the alternatives lack the extensions I use. But, they're constantly fucking with the UI for reasons that I can't comprehend and the changes seem to be designed with a future Firefox-Chrome merger in mind rather than with usability, stability or consistency in mind.

PaleMoon awaits you. Firefox extensibility, none of the Asa Dotzler UX fuckery.

Firefox is dead.

I made the switch to Pale Moon last week and have not looked back. Bloody brilliant.

I also switched to FossaMail and am very happy. This was less pressing for me because Thunderbird was in the "OK" category rather than the "steaming pile of crap" which is Firefox.

Try Pale Moon friend. Its based on FF so you can keep your plugins, has a native 64bit build, oh and the best part NO STUPID NEW UI, in fact the devs have stated they will NOT be going to the new UI PERIOD. its fast, stable, works so well in fact I've started using it as my default browser even over my beloved Comodo Dragon because its even snappier, just a really great browser all around.

...Pale Moon for ever!!!!

http://www.palemoon.org/

I am so thankful for Pale Moon. I don't have to read Firefox news with dread anymore. Even at work here using Linux I can enjoy it.

http://www.palemoon.org/

... Instead of working on stupidity like Australis, which pretty much all Firefox users hate, they could fix the memory leaks and improve the performance. A restoration of the old UI, which was really efficient and easy to use, could very well make this new browser a winner again....

Pale Moon will continue to use the well-known fully customizable user interface, and will not be following Mozilla's move to the "Australis" user interface (by a number of people dubbed "FireChrome" because of its likeness with Google's Chrome browser interface) introduced in Firefox 29.

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With the advent of Australis, an even clearer choice was made to not follow the Mozilla Corporation's direction in their attempts to create a "one size fits all" user interface from mobile phone to HD desktop. There is no such thing, and to attempt it is folly, in my opinion. For Pale Moon, there is also no reason to attempt "brand unity over operating system unity" (meaning an attempt to make the browser look the same regardless of operating system it is used on), and Pale Moon rather aims for "operating system unity over brand unity" (meaning an as high level of visual operating system integration as possible to provide a familiar, well-intergrated user interface).

... Instead of working on stupidity like Australis, which pretty much all Firefox users hate, they could fix the memory leaks and improve the performance. A restoration of the old UI, which was really efficient and easy to use, could very well make this new browser a winner again....

Pale Moon will continue to use the well-known fully customizable user interface, and will not be following Mozilla's move to the "Australis" user interface (by a number of people dubbed "FireChrome" because of its likeness with Google's Chrome browser interface) introduced in Firefox 29.

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With the advent of Australis, an even clearer choice was made to not follow the Mozilla Corporation's direction in their attempts to create a "one size fits all" user interface from mobile phone to HD desktop. There is no such thing, and to attempt it is folly, in my opinion. For Pale Moon, there is also no reason to attempt "brand unity over operating system unity" (meaning an attempt to make the browser look the same regardless of operating system it is used on), and Pale Moon rather aims for "operating system unity over brand unity" (meaning an as high level of visual operating system integration as possible to provide a familiar, well-intergrated user interface).

I know, I know: it's tough. We all have day jobs and that's why we want Mozilla to be a magical shield for us. But times have changed, and we clearly haven't. Mozilla tried to, but they clearly can't do it on their own anymore. So it's high time we actually did something too. Yet all I hear is whining about UI changes and other constant melodrama over things not being as flawless as they once were (which they weren't; rose-colored glasses just makes you think they were, until you actually use an old version of Firefox and see how far it's come).

Some people did. http://www.palemoon.org/. Mozilla's engine, Firefox 3.6's UI. Fuck the UXtards.

The UI changes aren't whining. They're the central issue that's driven people away from Firefox. Some of us just want a functional web browser whose UI doesn't change every release according to the whims of some webdevs. (Fuck Asa Dotzler and all his clones.) The problem isn't unique to Firefox. GNOME3 and Win8 failed for the same reasons. Some of us actually have some work to do. UXtards don't want to hear this, because their jobs depend on denying it, but the UI for the web browser and the desktop was done five years ago. Stop burning money on useless UX masturbation (or if you must, fuck with mobile and leave the desktop alone, maybe you're right and mobile takes over from the desktop, and maybe you're wrong but you still made a lot of money doing mobile but at least you didn't ruin the desktop for everyone who creates content instead of just consuming it on a fucking tablet) and use those resources to make a more secure, stable, and performant product.

Switched to Pale Moon when Firefox when full-Google Chrome in the UI; it's like Firefox classic, compiled for 64-bit systems.

Only been slightly annoying at work, due to Cisco's WebEx not having a 64-bit plugin, a fact that I can't seem to remember before trying to join an online meeting... every. damn. time.

Oh, and annoying when Firefox Sync upgraded their back-end in ways that blocked Pale Moon from working. Installed Xmarks (hey, I use LastPass anyway, why not) and forgot all about Sync thanks to being able to sync my bookmarks properly between Firefox, Pale Moon, Chrome and Safari (IE too, if I ever used that for anything other than my company's broken internal sites).

I switched to Pale Moon, and I am very pleased. I used Firefox and its Mozilla predecessors since about v. 0.92, and I was horrified and traumatized by FF v. 29. PM is the browser Firefox should have been. The following is taken from the Pale Moon home page.

Pale Moon is an Open Source, Firefox-based web browser available for Microsoft Windows and Linux, focusing on efficiency and ease of use. ...
Pale Moon offers you a browsing experience in a browser completely built from its own source with carefully selected features and optimizations to maximize the browser's speed, stability and user experience, while maintaining compatibility with thousands of Firefox extensions many have come to love and rely on. ... ... contrary to what Mozilla has done with their redesign of the user interface, Pale Moon will continue to provide a familiar set of controls and visual feedback similar to previous versions, including grouped navigation buttons of a decent size, a bookmarks toolbar that is enabled by default, tabs next to page content by default (easily switchable) and not in the least a functional status bar and more freedom in customization, to name a few things.

I switched to Pale Moon right after FF v. 29 came out. I was able to copy my FF user profile into the Pale Moon user profile directory and it ran without any particular problems. I have not used FF since then.

Four Stars and two thumbs up for Pale Moon.

Firefox *really* needs forking to follow the original vision.

Already attempted. Try PaleMoon. http://www.palemoon.org/

http://www.palemoon.org/

Pale Moon Windows version
Pale Moon Linux version

Pale Moon has a 64-bit version. The 64-bit Pale Moon uses the Firefox add-ons; there are no problems except with some unusual add-ons.

http://www.palemoon.org/

Switched from Firefox to Pale Moon because of Version 29 and haven't looked back. It is excellent.

Another useless fork. Palemoon is slower and less stable then Firefox.

http://www.palemoon.org/ Switched from Firefox to Pale Moon because of Version 29 and haven't looked back. It is excellent.

Me too, and I gave the author a small donation. I doubt they're getting bulk money from Google as FF is.