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Mozilla Updates Firefox With Forget Button, DuckDuckGo Search, and Ads

Krystalo writes: In addition to the debut of the Firefox Developer Edition, Mozilla today announced new features for its main Firefox browser. The company is launching a new Forget button in Firefox to help keep your browsing history private, adding DuckDuckGo as a search option, and rolling out its directory tiles advertising experiment.

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  1. Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    rolling out its directory tiles advertising experiment

    I sincerely hope this is optional.

    Not all of us are willing to accept ads. Especially not from the open source browser which is supposed to help be more private.

    1. Re:Bastards ... by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Time to dust off the IceWeasel...

    2. Re:Bastards ... by craigminah · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is this a euphemism?

    3. Re:Bastards ... by jeepies · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you disable directory tiles on new tabs, the ads are also disabled.

    4. Re: Bastards ... by slack_justyb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oooh, that one is good. Sneaky and snark, I miss the days when that combination was common in the comments on Slashdot.

    5. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Google stopped funding Firefox and started funding chrome.

      Google is an advertising Giant, Microsoft is an advertising Giant, both produce web browsers not to maximize utility but revenue.

      We're talking about one company that, in the IE4 days, ran windows update through IE and wondered why everyone caught viruses through it; to this day disgusting webbies are still making feature requests and design changes to the browser with exactly zero consideration for security. Chrome is the same exact thing. In the end, the end objective of advertisers is to run full-blown applications on your machine, and to do whatever the hell they want to it, and track every purchase and data-mine every action you take.

      And that makes them absolutely no different then the Russian Mob\Russian Hackers in that regard. This is the reason companies have started to install ad-blocking software at the firewall on back, and why users are installing Adblock. Not because the ad's are annoying, but because of the very, very real need to protect themselves. Cryptolocker wiped out tens of thousands of projects, and thousands of businesses; criminals were not prosecuted because files were encrypted on police file-shares, and people died because the same happened to hospitals. This is why Putin arrested everyone involved, and why the newer versions of it are not as virulent.

      Where did it come from? Yahoo's web advertising network. That one is well-documented.

      I've moved the majority of my users onto Seamonkey which has become a standard part of our deployment, adblock is implemented via GPO and is part of our NAC policy. Whenever users complain they can't get to site content because of it, I let the website owner know what we are using it and why, and if they complain my simple answer is "Are you going to pay for my time to re-image machines? No. Find a new revenue stream.". "Trust us our advertisers would never break your computer", and my answer to that is "Fuck you, fuck your website, fuck your mom, fuck your career, and again, fuck you. I will blacklist your ass on my firewall and tell my end user to find a new source before I allow your banner ad's in.".

      Now these Webbies have gotten into the standards documents, and browsers are doing things that really, they have no fucking business doing such as DRM'd Video in HTML5. The ONLY Reason you do that is you want a full-page video ad to pop up and take control of the browser for a minute. There's no other fucking reason for that; netflix can easily provide a separate app for streaming video. Why is your MAC address in your IP address in IPV6? The ONLY reason is to track the device from location to location, because it's super useful to be able to have persistence and serve ad's based upon what an IP last saw.

      The result of that is networking guru's have basically said "Fuck you we are using IPV4 internally until you give us a NAT RFC". They are engineers, not advertisers, they have no patience for bullshit, and if they want to go down this path, large networks are going to seek alternatives.

      Expect MS and Google to continue pushing back against the likes of ad-block with feature changes, and expect those feature changes are going to enable the next crypto-locker to hit, except this time it's going to do a lot more damage. Eventually these companies' monopoly positions will be challenged.

    6. Re:Bastards ... by j127 · · Score: 1

      "Do Not Track" used to be enabled by default. In the developer edition, it looked like it was turned off by default. That isn't a good sign.

      How do they serve relevant ads if they aren't tracking people? And how exactly are they tracking people?

      I think that it's bad to put browser technology into the hands of an advertising company (Google). Firefox is the best alternative because of that. I hope they aren't about to make really stupid mistakes.

    7. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do they serve relevant ads if they aren't tracking people? And how exactly are they tracking people?

      You make a huge blunder there , NO ads are relevant not one single ad they are all irrelevant detritus .

      Firefox 33.0.3 is completely fucked up now swithching to Qupzilla ...

    8. Re:Bastards ... by dejanc · · Score: 4, Informative

      It looks optional. I just updated and on directory tiles you get options: "Enhanced", "Classic" and "Blank". I don't see a difference between Enhanced and Classic but I am going to guess that Classic is ad free.

      Anyway, why be so negative about this? People at Mozilla provide a great browser and if that means you get to see some ads (that you can disable) every once in a while, what's the big deal? If they were injecting ads into pages you load, I would object, but seeing them on an otherwise empty page is as intrusive as default search engines they give you. Both things are perfectly fine.

    9. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Do not track" was not enabled by default. That's what the outrage was about when Microsoft made it default-on in Internet Explorer: By making it the default, it gave advertisers a reason to ignore it. If users don't choose "do not track", then it's not their decision and it need not be accepted, is the argument.

    10. Re:Bastards ... by mister_playboy · · Score: 1

      I wasn't aware of any users actively choosing a "yes, do track" option either, yet that didn't stop advertising from tracking users.

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    11. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Whenever users complain they can't get to site content because of it, I let the website owner know what we are using it and why, and if they complain my simple answer is "Are you going to pay for my time to re-image machines? No. Find a new revenue stream.". "Trust us our advertisers would never break your computer", and my answer to that is "Fuck you, fuck your website, fuck your mom, fuck your career, and again, fuck you. I will blacklist your ass on my firewall and tell my end user to find a new source before I allow your banner ad's in.".

      No you don't. You don't talk to people like that to their face. You're having a self-righteous wet dream. You do realise how foolish you sound when you come out with ludicrous bullshit stories? You sound like this guy

    12. Re:Bastards ... by thejynxed · · Score: 1

      Do Not Track is useless anyhow, as I don't know a single website that actually obeys it.

      As for tracking people, that's pretty much becoming trivial, and if more ISPs decide to copycat what Verizon is apparently doing with planting identifiers in the headers of packets coming from your machine, anyone and their mother will be able to know it's you.

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    13. Re:Bastards ... by Luckyo · · Score: 0

      You "would object"?

      I think you're letting us know that you're in marketing a bit too clearly here. Normal slashdot user would simply leave FF for one of the forks. Not "object".

    14. Re:Bastards ... by Monoman · · Score: 1

      AC + No references = Did not read.

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    15. Re:Bastards ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dread to think what Pale Moon is a euphemism for.

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    16. Re:Bastards ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It depends on the implementation. Ads are a popular malware delivery platform. Ads are often inappropriate or offensive. Sometimes they are animated or make noise. I don't know what the Mozilla ads are like, so I'll reserve judgement until I find out.

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    17. Re: Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clever retort, bruh. Troll him again..

    18. Re:Bastards ... by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Monoman + Ostrich = 7 letters long

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    19. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ONLY Reason you do that is you want a full-page video ad to pop up and take control of the browser for a minute. There's no other fucking reason for that; netflix can easily provide a separate app for streaming video.

      Yeah... that is the only possible reason right? And the DRM is of course there to prevent you from turning off full screen or stopping the video, because that is DRM does? And the solution is to go back to installing apps from each websites, and every time we go to a new website to have to trust it to install a new app to use their apps instead of using a browser because a browser with standard interaction can't be trusted?

      How does this BS get modded up? Most of it is so bad that it should be a waste of time to break down every point.

    20. Re:Bastards ... by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      You also need to disable the preloading and directory ping

    21. Re:Bastards ... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      The Mozilla Foundation needs revenue. If you're not willing to accept the ads, use another browser.

      The only alternative is for them to offer a paid proprietary ad-free version, and I'd rather see open source + ads than taking one of the most prominent open source software projects in the world and making it proprietary.

    22. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymice · · Score: 2

      They're just the static tiles you get on a normal new tab page, except they're populated with sponsored sites until your browser history automatically replaces them. This isn't something that would even affect updating users, just fresh installs with an empty history.

    23. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I've moved the majority of my users onto Seamonkey which has become a standard part of our deployment, adblock is implemented via GPO and is part of our NAC policy."

      Thats fucking hilarious.

      The poor patients in the hospital you work for must love having what browser they use dictated to them.

      Youre a fucking network guy. Your job is to ask your users what they want to use and what they want to view, and enable them to do it.

      If you have to dictate to your users what browser they can use, what sites they can visit - you fucking suck dick in hell at your job. Youre fucking incompetent.

    24. Re:Bastards ... by fibonacci8 · · Score: 1

      PartedMagic , because no one has ever used a euphamism for a project name.

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    25. Re:Bastards ... by davidshewitt · · Score: 1

      I have upgraded a few of my firefox installations (all with heavily customized profiles) and the tabs default to "Classic" mode. It looks like they disable the ads by default for existing installations.

    26. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Monoman ID 4 digits long.

    27. Re:Bastards ... by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Sure you do, you just phrase it slightly differently "That would be a violation of our security policy"..... the rest is all subtext that they can infer for themselves.

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    28. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using a fork is the WORST idea you could have for a project like Firefox. If Firefox dies because we have poles up our asses about ads, then so will the forks. Or do you seriously think that someone like MoonChild can compete with the likes of Google, Apple, and Microsoft when not even Mozilla can? You people need to stop being so myopic and take a good look at how little the forks have done so far. Most of them just compile a 64-bit build of Firefox (usually an ESR) with some options off, a few minor bug patches on, and call it a day. They have done practically NOTHING. Aside from TenFourFox, I can't think of a single popular one that has done anything to warrant its popularity... aside from helping people "stick it to Mozilla". Good luck when that attitude causes Firefox to die. All your Cyberfox and Palemoons will go with it, along with any voice you might have had to keep Google et al in check on how they want to run the Internet.

    29. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you lose functionality by disabling the ads. Fuck that. I recently readopted Firefox after they finally fixed the longstanding memory leak, but now it looks like Mozilla has found a new way to fuck it up.

      Well, this is goodbye to Firefox again. With Opera being nothing but Chrome rebranded, Chrome coming with spyware and Internet Explorer being insecure, my options are limited. I guess I'll go back to using Chromium nightlies.

    30. Re: Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound really angry.

    31. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, so you're ok with ads loading and wasting bandwidth every single time you open a new tab?

      Sorry, but that ain't going to fly with me or any other sane person. Firefox is supposed to be FREE OPEN SOURCE. Mozilla isn't supposed to be making greedy cash grabs like this, they are supposed to be non-profit.

      Ultimately what will happen is someone will start grabbing Firefox sources, strip out all of the advertising shit and then redistribute a better browser. Basically it will be OpenOffice vs LibreOffice all over again.

      You're just a fucking apologist.

    32. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong, they are persistent advertising tiles that you can only get rid of by completely disabling speed dial.

    33. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shill harder, fanboi.

      Many foundations need revenue, but they don't resort to scummy behaviour like this. Besides, I find it extremely hard to believe that Mozilla needs that much money. There are bigger and more complex free and/or open source projects out there that haven't run any marketing campaigns nor riddled their software with ads, they just ask humbly for donations with a small "donate" button on their web site or something. Hell, even Wikipedia hasn't stooped to this level.

      Mozilla is worthless, greedy scum and this action will only serve to push people away from Firefox. They're shooting themselves in the foot, that's all there is to it.

    34. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google did not cut funding for Mozilla. It even increased it.

      Straight from Wikipedia.

      The foundation has an ongoing deal with Google to make Google search the default in the Firefox browser search bar and hence send it search referrals; a Firefox themed Google search site has also been made the default home page of Firefox. The original contract expired in November 2006. However, Google renewed the contract until November 2008 and again through 2011.[9] On 20 December 2011 Mozilla announced that the contract was once again renewed for at least three years to November 2014, at three times the amount previously paid, or nearly US$300 million annually.[10][11] Approximately 85% of Mozilla’s revenue for 2006 was derived from this contract.

    35. Re:Bastards ... by Uncle+Warthog · · Score: 1

      Ummmm. This is November 2014. Where does that contract / funding stand now?

    36. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always assumed it was after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ode_%28poem%29 -- the browser for world-losers and world-forsakers.

    37. Re:Bastards ... by j127 · · Score: 1

      I've seen sites that respect it. I think that Twitter does. IIRC, it triggers opt-out by default rather than opt-in. I haven't double checked it though.

    38. Re:Bastards ... by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      You should be disabling the new tab page anyway, setting it to about:blank.

      Unless you like your recent history being there all the time. Fuck that.

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    39. Re:Bastards ... by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Not really. Mozilla foundation has gone off the rails lately, and that is a real problem. It losing most of the resources and going back to sanity is a good outcome, not a bad one.

      Right now, Mozilla is ruled by UI design idiots who like to use the browser to test their inane ideas instead of fixing engine bugs and let forkers handle the UI for each individual fork to suit people's needs. This is an issue of too much resources causing unwanted hires that take over the company.

      Getting rid of them will do the exact opposite of "ruining mozilla". It's about the only chance we have to get it back on track from the current suicidal ChromeFox path it has taken.

    40. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First of all, my speed dial page displays only the sites I pin to it. Secondly, why would I care if it did show my history? I'm the only person who uses my computer and whoever wanted to view my stuff would still need my login password. Most browsers also have a private tab mode (another Opera invention). Let me guess, you use an unpassworded, single account system with admin rights that is shared among multiple people, right?

      As a long time Opera user, I can't do without speed dial. It's one of the many great browser features that Opera pioneered.

    41. Re:Bastards ... by j127 · · Score: 1

      "Do not track" was not enabled by default. That's what the outrage was about when Microsoft made it default-on in Internet Explorer: By making it the default, it gave advertisers a reason to ignore it. If users don't choose "do not track", then it's not their decision and it need not be accepted, is the argument.

      You're right. I had it mixed up. Firefox was planning to enable 3rd-party cooking blocking by default.

    42. Re:Bastards ... by j127 · · Score: 1

      Firefox 33.0.3 is completely fucked up now swithching to Qupzilla ...

      Firefox isn't perfect, but it has good privacy tools.

    43. Re:Bastards ... by flappinbooger · · Score: 1

      mozilla works better than chrome right now though.

      Chrome does NOT work well for the last couple months. IE has never worked. Opera - no. That leaves Firefox. It gets me by. It's way better than it WAS.

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    44. Re:Bastards ... by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      Yes, but not for the reason you are thinking. Some years ago, the Mozilla Foundation decided to restrict the use of their trademarks. The code itself remained open source, but derivative browsers were no longer allowed to use the names Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. Debian rebranded their browser as Iceweasel. Another rebranding project sponsored by the Free Software Foundation was originally GNU IceWeasel, and was later changed to GNU IceCat to avoid confusion with the Debian project.

      References:
      Debian rebranding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...
      GNU rebranding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    45. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > use another browser

      Done and done.

      I keep looking for reasons to go back to Firefox, and then I find stuff like this.

    46. Re:Bastards ... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      List them, please. List all of the 'bigger and more complex free and/or open source projects' that are larger than Firefox in terms of technical complexity and don't have a big source of corporate funding.

    47. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The privacy bit is just Mozilla's religion. You must have faith.

    48. Re:Bastards ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's been wasting his life on here longer than most!

  2. Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is Firefox thinking? From the last paragraph in the article: "Firefox users should 'expect a lot more experimentation in advertising,' Mozilla Senior Engineering Manager Gavin Sharp told VentureBeat."

    1. Re:Can't wait for this! by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't worry. There will be a lot more experimentation in ad blocking extensions.

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    2. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand. Advertisements are linked to websites, not the applications linking to those websites.

    3. Re:Can't wait for this! by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mozilla should expect a lot more fleeing users with that attitude. I just just about ready to ditch their browser anyway, and they only keep making me want to do it more. The only problem is that the the competition--Chrome--sucks, and is single-handedly the reason Firefox's interface has sucked for the last few years. Ever since Google released the crap and Mozilla decided to make Firefox a carbon copy of it.

    4. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?

      Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

    5. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Give Pale Moon a try.

    6. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for the clarification. I should have known, I just watched that recently.

    7. Re:Can't wait for this! by nmb3000 · · Score: 2

      What is Firefox thinking? From the last paragraph in the article: "Firefox users should 'expect a lot more experimentation in advertising,' Mozilla Senior Engineering Manager Gavin Sharp told VentureBeat."

      If you want to raise your blood pressure and really ruin your outlook of Firefox's future, go read some of Gavin Sharp's comments on various Bugzilla bugs. Seeing the justification for the removal of features and the addition of toxic features ruins my day every time I'm driving there to try and understand why something changed.

      Gavin and the others like him that simply want to turn Firefox into Mini-Chrome are the biggest threat to Firefox today.

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    8. Re:Can't wait for this! by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Funny

      Here are some choices, Palemoon (used to be my go-to but the 25x release broke too much) Comodo Secure Chromium (my current go-to), Waterfox, Comodo Icedragon, Comodo Dragon, Kmeleon, SWIron, Opera, Seamonkey.

      Try the above and see which fits you best, no point in accepting crappy practices with so much choice.

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    9. Re:Can't wait for this! by Kunedog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The former head of Marketing replaced Brendan Eich (who , by contrast, had been a co-founder, former lead architect and CTO) after he was forced out at CEO. Any other questions?

    10. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Pale Moon had specific reasons for ending XP support, and even listed them: http://www.palemoon.org/PM_end_of_WinXP_support.shtml

      Even if you disagree with those reasons, there's no need to make them seem like evil jerkwads who hate XP users.

    11. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serious question - Why not simply stop updating the browser? I'm at FF 16 and will never update since it breaks too much and newer versions are simply worse.

    12. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to run it as root or Administrator so that your infections can be most effective.

    13. Re:Can't wait for this! by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      FYI: They fixed a lot of broken stuff in 25.0.1 and 25.0.2. If you haven't done so, you may want to check if your specific qualms have been fixed.

    14. Re:Can't wait for this! by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      Why not just run it in sandboxie?

      And frankly as long as you run adblock, ghostery and if you're really paranoid noscript, you're not going to get owned unless you make a point of visiting every porn site on the web. I ran 3.6.28 on several machines until finding palemoon recently and didn't get hit by a single infection.

    15. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. The browser does not need much privileges to function as a way to show content. I don't intend to do Web 3.0 in-browser next-gen gaming and operating system-within-browser stuff. It's perfectly fine to just run an old FF you like with all the addons and extensions you like in a sandbox or virtual machine. And as long as you have adblock, noscript and avoid dodgy stuff, not much can happen.

    16. Re:Can't wait for this! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Midori is webkit based and pretty minimal: http://midori-browser.org/

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    17. Re: Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something is seriously wrong with Firefox's and Mozilla's leadership.

      Firefox has gone from around 35% of the browser market several years ago down to around 10% today.

      A drop like that isn't an accident. It's the result of years of bad decisions, mainly those involving screwing the users over with bad UI redesigns, and utter stupidity like this advertising crap.

      When that much marketshare is lost so quickly, leadership change is needed. A new direction is needed.

    18. Re: Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that ghostery is owned by an advertising company and reports usage statistics?

    19. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Ghostery is itself adware supported addon! I don't recomend to use that...

    20. Re:Can't wait for this! by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      They'd probably be fine with that. Those kind of users are self-entitled whiners who believe people should work on Firefox completely for free because gimme. Also that work is always wrong because it's either a change and change is bad, or it's no change and that's also bad because then they're clearly just wasting their time.

    21. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will the companies they advertise for care about my privacy as much as Mozilla is supposed to? If yes, then I have less of a problem with this.

    22. Re:Can't wait for this! by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      Tried it and FYI but buuuuulllllsssshhhhiiiitttt! Their static version of adblock is a bad joke, unless you consider videos not loading at all as "functional", many pages still won't load correctly or come up with the mobile version, the entire thing is a fucking mess. I kept the install and will be happy to give it a spin on each release but ATM its completely crippled compared to the 24.x branch. Sadly since there is a pretty severe security hole in 24.x the devs won't fix to force users to take the broken 25.x at this time I simply cannot in good conscience recommend PaleMoon to anybody.

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    23. Re: Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that ghostery is owned by an advertising company and reports usage statistics?

      That can be disabled. The benefits of Ghostery outweigh the drawbacks, at least for now.

    24. Re: Can't wait for this! by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      I do. I also know that unticking one box makes it stop.

      I also know that the first time I install ghostery, it specifically asks me in a pop up if I want to disable it.

    25. Re:Can't wait for this! by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      While this is a "bloggish" site, this is still slashdot, not jezebel. I assume people around here have enough know how to be able to untick the first box on first page of ghostery's options menu.

    26. Re:Can't wait for this! by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      Strange. I have no such problem with it. Adblock's "pseudo-static" version they have is simply adblock with one line of code changed to recognise palemoon's interface as acceptable. In fact, normal adblock works just fine on 25.0.x, the only problem is that it won't show interface elements on UI because it doesn't recognise PM's UI elements as FF elements. When I updated to 25.0.0, it blocked ads as usual, but I couldn't see the UI element.

      Did you perhaps install it on top of old adblock without removing it first? That is a known problem, because if you do, you may confuse your browser.

    27. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be aware that Palemoon screwed all XP users by braking Palemoon.

      Braking Pale Moon allows it to stop to avoid crashes?

    28. Re: Can't wait for this! by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      So does firefox...

      You are allowed to opt out on both.

    29. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, Opera is now badge-engineered Chrome. My work computer is still at Opera 12.17.

      If Opera were to Open Source Presto, that would make my year.

    30. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She only takes reservations by smoke signal...

    31. Re:Can't wait for this! by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      I agree, and do similar to what you describe.
      I think the shit-fit we are seeing in the posts here is driven a lot by the fact that we can all see where this is going.
      Where is that?

      Well, we can see a day, not too distant, where we won't be able to run "safe" browsers, a day when the list of browsers will be like the list of political parties in the US or ISP's in the US: TWO

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    32. Re: Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it could be that their competition is the most used advertising/search engine in the entire world, Google.

      Every time you go to Google it suggests that you should switch to chrome. Maybe that eventually gets to people and they click willingly. Maybe one day they accidentally click somewhere on the page and get it. Maybe they download adobe acrobat or flash and get it installed by drive-by. Maybe a malware site does the drive-by.

      A DIVX codec pack causes IE to use Chrome inside IE
      Avast antivirus installs chrome if you miss the tiny checkbox Adobe installs chrome with if you miss the checkbox while installing flash player or reader. Maybe you just wanted to install Google Earth and play with maps. Boom. You've now got chrome If you install any well known popular application, chances are it bundles a chrome install.

      Hey that's a great idea! what if we just make everyone run chrome if they decide to click yes to a popup box IChrome evangelists are taking a cue from malware writers.

      It should be noted that Google is now ceasing this drive-by install method of chrome

      Clearly, Firefox needs to invent a superior search engine to regain market share, then push people people to install Firefox. Or just convince everyone of their devoted followers to script "install firefox" into applications and web pages where it is completely unnecessary. That's how Google got their market-share.

    33. Re:Can't wait for this! by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      The first paragraph is even better:

      10 years ago we built Firefox to give you a choice. The Web was a monoculture and the only way in was through the company that controlled your operating system.

      ... 10 years ago, it was 2004. In 1995, the Web was Netscape Navigator and Internet Explorer. Mozilla built their browser on Netscape Navigator; eventually, Firebird forked from Mozilla Suite, which would then become Mozilla Seamonkey, while Firebird would eventually become Firefox. Meanwhile, Galeon and Konqueror were popular options, eventually overruled by Firefox.

      There was no such time as described.

    34. Re: Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Riiiight. Everyone switched from Firefox to Chrome because of UI changes, like Firefox trying to make itself look like Chrome. I'm sure many more people will switch from Firefox to Chrome, because Chrome doesn't even support ad blocking. it's made by the largest advertising company on the internet. It doesn't need to show ads because it's building a marketing profile.

    35. Re:Can't wait for this! by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Are civil rights theoretical, or do they deserve some sort of societal protection?

    36. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's even worse than that. Opera essentially stripped vital functionality out of their browser and made it a bigger resource hog with the rebrand. In order to restore some of that functionality, you can use some Chrome extensions with Opera through a hack, but many of them don't work. NuOpera also won't let you replace the speed dial page, it doesn't have a sidebar and it doesn't have any way to create and manage bookmarks.

    37. Re:Can't wait for this! by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Nope, totally clean install AAMOF just using their very own tool to make a backup of the passwords and bookmarks...suuuucccckkkkkksssss! Any Blip videos are right out, black screen, YouTube is hit or miss with some playing WITH the security risking ads, some playing without, and some not at all like Blip, and again some sites work right and some shit the bed. On my second machine I restored from image back to 24.x and ya know what? Worked fine.

      So while I still have it on there and will try it on each new release my go to browser is now Comodo Chromium Secure which blows away both Palemoon AND Comodo Dragon on raw speed, using the Google log in I was able to transfer from Dragon all my data in less than a minute, and most importantly adblock? actually works as intended, with just the content and ONLY the content loading!

      if you haven't given it a spin try it, its really nice.

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    38. Re:Can't wait for this! by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Very strange. I can't recall ever hearing of anyone having this problem. You may have been dealt a really bad RNG in there :(

      I've tried the comodo dragon one, but it was just a reskinned chromium with some minor tweaks.

    39. Re:Can't wait for this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Civil disobedience is still disobedience.

      You have no rights.

  3. er, Netscape? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from TFA: "10 years ago we built Firefox to give you a choice. The Web was a monoculture and the only way in was through the company that controlled your operating system. "

    I guess that whole Netscape Navigator thing was a delightful dream, apparently?

    1. Re:er, Netscape? by jeepies · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Netscape was dead in 2004. IE was closing in on 90% market share by the end of 2000.

      I remember finally making the switch to IE from the Netscape 4.76 series that summer after my friend asked why I didn't use IE and showed me it was better. To be fair, IE had surpassed Netscape at that point. I believe that was IE 5 or 5.5. Prior to that Netscape was better hands down but it stagnated after Netscape 4.

    2. Re: er, Netscape? by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I think ie4 was already getting better.

      Netscape was getting buggier with versions, and it was a disaster on the barely existant web standards. I used opera on Linux, and ie4 on Windows. Though opera had a lot of sites that refused to accept it.

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    3. Re: er, Netscape? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although Opera had the ability to change it's user agent string to match IE's, and suddenly nearly every site worked! But this had the effect of making Opera's fairly small market share appear nearly non-existent and IE's a bit bigger than it was, exacerbating the problem of IE-targeted sites.

    4. Re: er, Netscape? by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Mozilla M18 was when I switched from Opera, with one of the earlier ones getting usable, Netscape 4.x was horrible by the end though, completely unusable and slow.

      On older systems I used Dillo, which was way more pleasant for static HTML, which used to exist.

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  4. Alternative browsers? by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    Please share here ways to get away from ad loving, privacy sucking browsers.

    I'm still on Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090624 Firefox/3.5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) with adblock/scriptblock/grease monkey :)

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    1. Re:Alternative browsers? by Moridineas · · Score: 4, Funny

      How about Safari?

    2. Re:Alternative browsers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20141021 Firefox/24.9 PaleMoon/25.0.2 ;)

    3. Re:Alternative browsers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about Safari?

      Somebody please mod this up as '+1 Funny' it's the best joke I've heard in weeks!

    4. Re:Alternative browsers? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Gnu icecat

    5. Re:Alternative browsers? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Given that pretty much every major browser other than IE is either open source or uses an open source rendering engine there's plenty of alternative browsers out there.

      Off the top of my head, on the Gecko side there's Palemoon, IceCat (was IceWeasel), Comodo IceDragon, and WaterFox.
      On the Blink/Webkit side there's SRWare Iron, Comodo Dragon, Comodo Secure Browser, Opera, Midori, Torch Browser, CoolNovo (was ChromePlus), Superbird Browser.

      There's also some that are basically wrappers around IE, such as SlimBrowser, though if you're concerned about privacy I'd probably shy away from using IE in any form.

    6. Re:Alternative browsers? by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      How about Safari?

      Or Opera

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  5. Fedora by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I assume Fedora will be dropping FIrefox and replacing it with IceWeasel as Debian did long ago. Pretty sure adverts won't fit into Fedora's philosophy very well.

  6. What was that new feature again? by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 4, Funny

    (I don't need a button to help me forget things!)

  7. duckduckgo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Good for the chumps who believe the marketing fodder.

    But as the saying goes... if you're not paying, you're the product, not the customer.

    1. Re:duckduckgo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good for the chumps who believe the marketing fodder.

      But as the saying goes... if you're not paying, you're the product, not the customer.

      You are still the product, even if you do pay. Look at Verizon's tracking...

    2. Re:duckduckgo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way I understand it, they make their money through affiliate codes.
      They're not perfect, but more transparent than most.

      https://duckduckgo.com/privacy#s4

    3. Re:duckduckgo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you're not paying, you're the product, not the customer.

      Unless it's Roku, Hulu Plus or cable television. Then you're both.

    4. Re:duckduckgo by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

      I don't see them mention that they use AWS. Seems like all the tin-foil hat types love DuckDuckGo. Sometimes I think those hats are actually antennas.

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    5. Re:duckduckgo by mister_playboy · · Score: 2

      DDG's search has become very close in quality to Google's these days, so whatever the reality of their privacy protection claims at least they no longer have reduced functionality compared to the market leader.

      They are a worthy competitor on the merits now in a way they were not even 1 year ago.

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    6. Re:duckduckgo by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Their index is tiny though

    7. Re:duckduckgo by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Thank you. My internet service provider, cell phone provider, Costco Membership, and bank all have me as a paying customer, and I'm still the product to them.

  8. Contradiction by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They added two new features:
    1. A "Forget" button for your privacy, and
    2. Ads, that remember everything forever.

    Sounds like a case of giving with one hand, and taking with the other!

  9. Before Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh screw it.

  10. Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by chaosdivine69 · · Score: 1

    I did it when they force-fed us Australis and have never looked back. I'll never go back to "Fireplop" now. Liberation is available at www.palemoon.org

    1. Re:Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your stunning eloquence has me convinced. Sign me up!

    2. Re:Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope, their FAQ says they took out the accessibility features. I don't want a browser lead by someone who thinks "if it isn't used by me then screw it". If anything all applications need more accessibility features. Guess what, they make the whole program more accessible! Accessibility is a good thing even if it adds a little more complexity and resource usage.

    3. Re:Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got my popcorn handy. I can't wait for Firefox to implode and take Palemoon and all the other ill-advised clones with it. The sound of your collective screams will be amazing to hear, especially as you try to blame everything on Mozilla again.

    4. Re:Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by chaosdivine69 · · Score: 2

      Think of it as Imodium for the Internet.

    5. Re:Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by chaosdivine69 · · Score: 0

      It's open source, learn to code and do it your way then.

    6. Re:Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's open source, learn to code, waste a week when you could be using a preexisting project, and do it your way then.

      FTFY

    7. Re:Free yourself from this SHIT - Get Palemoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I already know how to code (which is one reason I like accessibility features: they make GUI scripting easier). A new browser is on my list of things to develop, but I'll never have enough time to get that far down in my list. There's enough browsers working well enough out there.

      I'd rather get away from Firefox, I was seriously looking at Pale Moon despite all its spam/ads/blind recommendations here on /., but they took one too many steps backwards for me. My original point being that Pale Moon is more restrictive in some ways and thus not fully liberating. It has drawbacks.

  11. Click "Blank" to win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fuck advertising

  12. WTF by buckfeta2014 · · Score: 1

    Is this an April Fools joke?

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  13. It was good while it lasted. by ksemlerK · · Score: 1

    I guess Mozilla just signed thier own death warrent. sudo apt-get delete iceweasel. Fuck them.

    1. Re:It was good while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ITYM "remove" not "delete". It's a lot less funny when you get that wrong...

    2. Re: It was good while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That makes the system unstable. Afterwards, run

      sudo rm -rf /

    3. Re:It was good while it lasted. by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      They need revenue to pay their developers. Most of their revenue comes from Google grants - hundreds of millions of dollars. If Google stops paying them, where do you expect them to get the money from? I'd cover the cost myself, but I just checked my bank balance and I don't have a quarter of a billion dollars handy.

    4. Re:It was good while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't need hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of employees or a fancy building in silicon valley. Other open source projects make do with far less and without selling out.

    5. Re:It was good while it lasted. by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Making a browser is more complicated than making a music player, or a blog engine, or a file-sharing application. That's why the only widely adopted open source browsers have been based on projects with big funding - Gecko and WebKit/Blink.

    6. Re:It was good while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's less complicated than making an operating system (Debian, Gentoo, MenuetOS/KolibriOS, Haiku, AtheOS/Syllable, ReactOS) or graphics editor (GIMP/CinePaint, Paint.NET, Pixia). Also, I would bet that the free music player foobar2000 is more complex than any browser.

    7. Re:It was good while it lasted. by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      I would argue it is, in fact, more complicated than a Linux distribution or graphics editor. It's hard to compare source code between them because the Linux distribution managers are of course repackaging a lot of existing code with their changes. GIMP has 750,000 source lines of code, according to Ohloh.net. GNOME has 8.8 million lines of code. Firefox has 12.5 million. That's colossal. Not much is bigger.

  14. Sounds like I should just "forget" Firefox by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    ...and stay with Pale Moon.

    At the very least I'm disabling automatic updates on Firefox.

  15. Fork it. by adolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please look into Pale Moon.

    Built from Firefox sources, it is the closest thing to the lightweight and flexible browser that Firefox promised to be that I'm aware of.

    Linux, Windows, Mac, Android, etc.

    1. Re:Fork it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not Mac.

    2. Re:Fork it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The closest thing these days to the promises of Firefox is SeaMonkey, you know.

      Honestly, it's a good browser. And nobody is wrecking its UI.

    3. Re:Fork it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I already use Pale Moon, left Firefox around version 29.0. At first I used Pale Moon for having a 64 bit option, now I use it because it most suits my needs. Duckduckgo? I'll stick with Startpage, I don't like the calls my PC tries to make when using the quack. TOR seems to be having problems as of late also, so have been using some of the plethora of free VPN providers. When Firefox got rid of their CEO for his opinion about sexual preference that was the last nail in the coffin for me. When it reached the point that we were not entitled to an opinion, and not entitled to any semblance of privacy on the web, I started pushing back. This comment isn't really anonymous as I made it via an open line, over an unsecured connection. No https: yet slashdot.org?

    4. Re:Fork it. by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 2

      I like Palemoon too, but new users should be aware that the switch will probably cause problems because - despite some claims to the contrary - it isn't 100% compatible with Firefox add-ons. Admittedly, this is more often the fault of the add-on developers, but since the add-ons are usually the primary thing keeping people on Firefox, some extra consideration should be given before switching to its competitor. Especially since it has problems with so many big-name add-ons

      Some examples: AdBlock Plus & AdBlock Edged (no menu or toolbar icon, so can't easily change options or disable), HTTPS Everywhere (does not function), Self-Destructing Cookies (does not function), Greasemonkey & Scriptish (do not function), Google Privacy (does not function), DOM Inspector (does not work), Privacy Badger (nope, not this one either), TabMixPlus (partly functional), AutoPager (nope) and dozens more.

      (see Known Incompatible Add-Ons for the complete list).

      I use Palemoon myself, but this lack of complete compatibility is actually making me reconsider going back to Firefox (at least with Firefox I can correct more egregious mistakes made by Mozilla through more add-ons). I hope that Palemoon figures out a way to improve compatibility but unfortunately the above list just seems to be getting longer and never shorter. New users should definitely look over the incompatibility list before they make the switch.

    5. Re:Fork it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Valid criticism.

      But for me, all my add-ons worked just fine, no probs.

      Pale Moon 4 eva!!!

    6. Re:Fork it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lunascape is better. It has a triple rendering engine (Trident, Gecko and WebKit), support for IE, Firefox and Lunascape add-ons and is available on all popular platforms.

    7. Re:Fork it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, good name. For a second I thought you where talking about your morbidly obese dba's ass.

  16. The Ads Can Be Disabled by enter+to+exit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Advertisements may be disabled in the preferences. They're trying to diversify their revenue which currently is mostly Google. Over the last few releases they've been highlighting the various privacy features and ideology Firefox has in a bid to differentiate themselves against Chrome, so it' a little Ironic to see this Ad compromise.

    The Ads only occupy unused thumbnail tiles i believe..so it's not obtrusive. As long as us techies can turn it off, I'm happy. Everyone else will hardly notice, and it'll pay the Mozilla devs.

    1. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Advertisements may be disabled in the preferences. They're trying to diversify their revenue which currently is mostly Google. Over the last few releases they've been highlighting the various privacy features and ideology Firefox has in a bid to differentiate themselves against Chrome, so it' a little Ironic to see this Ad compromise.

      The Ads only occupy unused thumbnail tiles i believe..so it's not obtrusive. As long as us techies can turn it off, I'm happy. Everyone else will hardly notice, and it'll pay the Mozilla devs.

      Slippery slope, thin end of the wedge...

    2. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Pi1grim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, I mean who cares about the truth as long as we can run around screaming bloody murder and probably soiling ourselves in the process. The "ad tiles" are placed on quick dial instead of empty ones until users get them filled with their browsing history or just drag and dropb pinned stuff from their bookmarks. That's it. But everyone and their dog are starting to whine and threatening to go to Chrome or Pale moon, which is twice as funny as just the wining, because if first browser was built by an advertising company for tracking users and increasing ad efficiency, while the other is nothing but a measely fork, sucking on Firefox codebase and proud of removing a lot of features (websockets anyone? Nah, who needs direct calls from browser, let's all use proprietary Skype), while it is Mozilla that keeps improving JS and HTML rendering engines and yet still keeps all the customizability that was there to begin with.

    3. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by hyades1 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and I bet you believed your boyfriend when he said he'd just put the tip in, too. ;-)

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    4. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Pi1grim · · Score: 2

      I judge by what's been actually done, not by hysteria, that a lot of people like to fuss up around any issue as long as it has trigger words that get them going. They see an article titled "Mozilla adds ads" and they start running around with a sign "The end is nigh" without even familiarizing themselves with the issue and coming up with "ad absurdum" arguments.

    5. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Reductio ad absurdum" arguments are immensely useful in helping design systems to prevent problems from occurring, and shouldn't be immediately brushed off just because some mistaken high school teacher taught you that they're a type of logical fallacy. They're the method of taking an assertion "to its logical extreme", not "its illogical extreme"; the latter would be a straw-man fallacy.

    6. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And he said he'd "wear protection" before filling your mom full of ads.

    7. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by JMJimmy · · Score: 2

      I don't want to pay the Mozilla devs. They just like to masturbate their egos rather than fixing huge/serious privacy flaws with sqlite.places, the decay frecancies algorithm, monitoring experiments that have no privacy oversight, etc. Their "privacy team" is supposed to meet once a month - ONCE. Last time I checked it'd been 3-4 months since they actually did it.

    8. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Good posts, thanks for the discussion. I don't see how this is a surprise, or upsetting, to anyone that's paying attention. Mozilla gets most of its hundred-million-dollar funding from Google, and they have no guarantees Google will keep giving them money. What other realistic option do they have for generating revenue? They already accept user donations, how many people angry over this move give the Mozilla Foundation any money?

    9. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 2

      Kind of like Slashdot.

      I used to not disable ads on Slashdot, you know, a site's got to make money somehow. But lately the ads have gotten SO annoying that I have to disable them, just to make the site usable!

    10. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 2

      Slashdot has ads?

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    11. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I am very familiar with the issue. The issue is that the Mozilla Foundation used to be about building something for the benefit of the public, and that they have - for the most part - firmly and soundly betrayed that principle on multiple occasions and this is the latest one. Instead of a lightweight easy browser with a consistent UI we now have a bloated piece of adware - and I DON'T CARE if it's only temporary tiles as 1) The concept of a tiled start tab sucks in the first place, and 2) I don't expect my BROWSER to SERVE ME ADS.

      So don't think those of us recommending Pale Moon aren't familiar with the issues.

    12. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ads can be disabled. Great! However it looks like they're going to be datamining your web history, which of course will be including any banking you do, webmail you check, etc. You get the option to make them "forget" about the page, but that's after-the-fact. And that assumes they're actually forgetting the site, and not just putting a marker on it to avoid using it to serve you ads. If the information is left on the servers, it'd be ripe for hackers to try to steal.

    13. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by Pi1grim · · Score: 1

      Well, let's go over this once more:
      Browser only shows "filler" tiles, that other companies pay to have there. Like an ad sticker on a wrapping paper on your brand new and free car. Firefox does not send any information to ad agencies, does not help them track you or do a full sweep of your activity (looks at chrome).

      If you are so against predefined content, how come you were so totally OK all these years with Google search coming as default and Firefox getting a ton of money for it?

      Now to adress the "bloated" part. Show me a slimmer browser, that uses less resources while retaining the same functionality? Browsers have become an OS in itself for running webapps. Don't like it - use mailer daemon to mail you the webpages you'd like to see. Richard seems to get along just fine doing that.

      As for Pale moon - I am yet to see any usefull changes. They cut out features they don't like, claim they are faster and better, but except for dropping CPU's without SSE no useful optimisations have been introduced. The moment FF shuts down, Pale Moon is going down just as quickly without a main project to hold on to and to port all the changes from.

      And last, but not least - when was the last time you donated to developers, that work hard just so that you and every other person on Earth has a reliable, auditable, privacy-caring, open-source browser? Donated code maybe, or at least filed a comprehensive bug report with logs and a case to reproduce?

      Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and choice of browsers. But taking a dramatic stance and feeling all betrayed is way out of bounds. I draw the line at browsing experience and user tracking - as long as Firefox doesn't do anything that hurts end-user, they are fine to pursue other means of monetization, as long as the money goes to developing a better software.

    14. Re:The Ads Can Be Disabled by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Let me guess. Phrases like "mission creep", "nose of the camel" and "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" are utterly foreign to you. Or perhaps you believe they came into existence to describe situations that don't happen all that often?

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  17. they are thinking Google has them by the balls by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > What is Firefox thinking?

    I suspect they are thinking that it sure was nice to have Google paying them millions of dollars for so long, but with Chrome already having twice as many users, Google won't need to keep doing that. They've built an organization that has expenses in the hundreds of millions. Close to 90% of that is for using Google as the default search. Right now, Google has the power to make the Mozilla foundation vanish. That means, of course, that Google can exercise power over them just by a vague threat, or even simply expressing displeasure with a Mozilla decision.

    Each November the foundation releases their financial statement. When preparing this financial statement and the last one, they must have seen that the reliance on Google is a problem. They made some small deals with other companies, like including Bing as an _option_ users can set as their default search, but the other deals don't come close to covering their expenses. So to stop being completely reliant on Google, they need some other revenue stream. Somebody sketched a proposal for how they could run ads in a fairly unobtrusive way, in a way that doesn't seem sneaky or underhanded, and that revenue could cover their expenses.

    I don't want ads in my browser. I think clumsily adding ads to Firefox could backfire in a huge way. I also think it would be stupid for the Firefox devs to NOT be looking at clever ways to include fairly acceptable ads, new ideas on how they could generate ad revenue if needed without pissing everyone off.

    It CAN be done, and even without being all too clever. Slashdot users are generally less tolerant of ads than the general population, yet there are ads here. We deal with it in one way or another and those ads make money. If Firefox can find some elegant ways to place ads and avoid being dependent on Google, they would be smart to at least have that _plan_ ready in case Google stops paying.

    Again, I don't WANT ads in Firefox. I also don't WANT to die, but I do buy life insurance so my family has some protection if that happens.

    1. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Each November the foundation releases their financial statement. When preparing this financial statement and the last one, they must have seen that the reliance on Google is a problem. They made some small deals with other companies, like including Bing as an _option_ users can set as their default search, but the other deals don't come close to covering their expenses. So to stop being completely reliant on Google, they need some other revenue stream. Somebody sketched a proposal for how they could run ads in a fairly unobtrusive way, in a way that doesn't seem sneaky or underhanded, and that revenue could cover their expenses.

      I don't want ads in my browser. I think clumsily adding ads to Firefox could backfire in a huge way. I also think it would be stupid for the Firefox devs to NOT be looking at clever ways to include fairly acceptable ads, new ideas on how they could generate ad revenue if needed without pissing everyone off.

      '
      Except short of running your own ad network, you're going to end up taking Google's money anyways because Google owns pretty much all the legitimate ad networks online. Google may even own some of the sketchier ones that you see on torrent sites and the like.

      So it's either take Google's money out of the generousity of Google, or take Google's money by showing ads from a Google-owned ad network. And I'm fairly certain Mozilla is NOT going to pick those sketchier ad networks that let you make $80/day working from home.

      Though really, if Mozilla would stop fucking with the interface of Firefox and making it a Chrome clone, perhaps people would stop leaving Firefox. We have muscle memory and we expect things to work certain ways. Changing it just annoys the user base.

      Hell, I don't think Chrome has messed with their UI too much - at least, it hasn't disturbed the way I've been using it.

    2. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Microlith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      or take Google's money by showing ads from a Google-owned ad network.

      And it's not this either, given that they're basically sponsored slots that pretty much only new installs see.

      if Mozilla would stop fucking with the interface of Firefox and making it a Chrome clone

      It'll only be a Chrome clone when they remove the ability to customize the UI via add-ons.

      We have muscle memory and we expect things to work certain ways. Changing it just annoys the user base.

      That sounds like the worst reason to slam the brakes on UI improvements. On the other hand, maintaining the flexibility of the add-on system is golden and lets people like me keep the UI pretty much identical to how it was in the 3.x days, rather than whining like a 4year old.

    3. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Though really, if Mozilla would stop fucking with the interface of Firefox and making it a Chrome clone, perhaps people would stop leaving Firefox.

      Yep. I'm sure it has *nothing* to do with one of the most popular websites in the world aggressively advertising chrome at every opportunity.

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    4. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, I don't WANT ads in Firefox.... but I do buy life insurance so my family has some protection if that happens.

      Man, you really don't like ads do you?

    5. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by mister_playboy · · Score: 1

      I also don't WANT to die

      Firefox existed before it was a huge business and it will still exist if the huge business aspect falls apart.

      I don't think it's controversial to ask if all those Google millions really made the program's development arc better than it was in the more fallow old days.

      --
      Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law ::: Love is the law, love under will
    6. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

      > Firefox existed before it was a huge business and it will still exist if the huge business aspect falls apart.

      I'm afraid it's gotten too large to maintain as a normal freeware project. It has too many platforms, with far too much extraneous bloatware that must be tested and operate correctly to run on a normal freeware shoe string.

    7. Re: they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey now, I chose chrome because I'm a rebel and above the common folk in every way.

      How dare you insinuate that I switched to chrome because it is in my fucking face every single time I do a web search.

      Only a lesser fool would switch browsers simply because someone keeps hinting they should do so.

      - sent from my android phone

    8. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      People are leaving Firefox because for a long time Chrome was flat out better (not counting add-ons) - faster, more stable. Firefox has been kicking ass in the last few browser comparisons at Tom's Hardware ( http://www.tomshardware.com/re... ) but I think public perception hasn't caught up.

      And Mozilla is probably happy to take Google's money from the Google Ad Network instead of direct grants, if that's what it takes to keep the Mozilla Foundation open. What they can't do is survive on end user donations. The number of major open source projects with as many developers as Firefox that survive on that model is near zero.

    9. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google owns Doubleclick, so they own most of the dodgy ones too.

    10. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, maybe its time to actually come back and have pro version that you pay for?

    11. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The number of major open source projects with as many developers as Firefox that survive on that model is near zero."

      Cut back the developers.

      Fire all the marketing people.

      Axe the CEO(s) and management.

      Take the organisation back to its roots and keep things simple.

    12. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I use firefox at work and Chromium at home. I use Firefox because of the tab expose view... which I've stopped using, so I don't know why I still use Firefox. Chromium is better.

    13. Re:they are thinking Google has them by the balls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chromium is slow as hell. Application start up takes forever and sometimes even opening a new tab does also. It used to not be like that but recently, and I''ve tested this on three different PCs, the performance has gone to shit. Firefox Nightly is much more responsive and uses less memory.

  18. Re:Alternative browser, TorBrowser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  19. More like... by denzacar · · Score: 2

    Sounds like a case of giving with one hand, and taking with the other!

    Advertizing a free handjob, while it is actually a part of a reach-around.

    --
    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
  20. Not on OSX by Kunedog · · Score: 1

    I use Pale Moon on Win7 but there's no Mac version AFAIK. On OSX I use Seamonkey, which is also superior to FF but breaks more extensions:

    http://www.seamonkey-project.o...

  21. Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is at it again. You people refuse to understand that nothing is free in this world. No one makes anything out of the goodness of their heart. Would ypu work for free?

    1. Re:Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the simplest explanation is that it is human nature to take the fruits of others' labor without compensating them.

  22. Pale Moon! by mnt · · Score: 1

    Without Pale Moon i would be forced to use Chromium. And Firefox gets more user-unfriendly by the minute.

  23. ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For Firefox - Go to about:config and search for "fb", "facebook", "social", "goog" and you'll see a bunch of questionable settings. Everyone should automatically disable safebrowsing to prevent calling home to google. This has been posted on Slashdot many times before in the comments.

    For Chrome - Google automatically calls home automatically each time the chrome browser when it's launched, before any site is even loaded. If you have a software firewall that prompts you access to the internet on a per application basis, like AVG, it will prompt the with such a message. The IP reported if you look it up is a google IP.

    AdBlockPlus is also white-listing a load of tracking/ad stuff that have no business of being whitelisted. A while back, Google paid AdBlockPlus folks to not have certain ads removed. Why doubleclick.net/doubleclick.com is ever whitelisted makes no sense. The AdBlockPlus folks is saying that certain things need to be whitelisted or sites would stop working. Don't buy into any of that crap. Unfortunately you need to manually disable the whitelist stuff and there's no way of knowing unless you check your preferences for every site that you load...

    Also Akamai is being used buy a bunch of sites that no ad block or /etc/hosts file would ever be able to block. When you launch a site that loads data (amazon/google/yahoo, Whitehouse, microsoft, pretty much major site, even when your AVG anti-virus/firewall does a software update), a lot of this data is part served as part of Akamai's Content Distribution Network. You can't block *.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com because there's way too many IP ranges, and nslookup won't return any IPs on deploy.akamaitechnologies.com. I have still yet to figure out a way to block all of this via iptables or software firewall, and doing so is pretty much blocking majority of the web. Akamai admits storing personal info for marketing purposes. There's really no way around this bullshit... Haven't had any success blocking it at the dns configuration level - the router (using OpenWRT - it reports every bit of connection traffic, and you'll see that *.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com is continuously being accessed even after /etc/hosts, firewall, dns configuration is set up)...

    1. Re:ads by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Firefox: Add SQLite Manager addon - take a look at the data that's being stored that shouldn't be. Experiments that are downloaded to gather data without your consent/knowledge. Data submissions if you go to the health report page, regardless of your settings not to participate. All sorts of crazy stuff.

      The doubleclick thing is easily remedied in Firefox just install the opt out extension

    2. Re:ads by mujadaddy · · Score: 1

      Re: Akamai

      Yeah, that's a tough one. About the only thing I can think of would be to just disable them entirely, as you said, breaking 'much' of the 'Net, just so you can be an informed data consumer.

      But I'm the kind of person who disabled Flash entirely and uses Hosts & NoScript to break the 'Net already, so that would be a small step for me.

      Good luck to all of us.

      --
      Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur...
      "Force shits upon Reason's back." - Poor Richard's Almanac
  24. So, Moz has gone to the dark side. What about DDG? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    Seems Mozilla has sold out. Which makes their choice of DuckDuckGo as default search engine interesting: have they sold out too?

    The thing with DDG is, I'd be happy to believe their no-tracking pitch, but I can't quite understand how they're gonna make money out of a free search engine without it...

    --
    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  25. Re:So, Moz has gone to the dark side. What about D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So you don't understand how DDG can make money without ads, but you don't understand why the Mozilla foundation must add ads to survive. Wow. Simply. Wow.

  26. there goes that by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    I think I figured out what experiment they're running. They're seeing how low their market share can go by pissing off their users. Chrome tried it and shaved off at least 30%.

  27. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

    1. Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My FREE hosts program

      I'm not running your mysterious magical program on any of my hardware if I can't see the source. Care to show it to us ? just a github pointer shall be fine.

  28. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      I've seen you post this info a few times before it seems...
      Got me thinking about the hosts option.
      So I use the one listed here
      and still use ad-block plus, script block, etc;

      I'm curious why you post your info as AC...?

      --
      We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
    2. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another one, online version: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt

    3. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey Peter, long time no see !!!

      how you doin' bro ? still sleeping with your dad ?

      Love you Peter !! see you very soon :)

    4. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another failed attempt at projecting your issues onto others? Yes.

    5. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm curious why you post your info as AC...?

      Because he's been banned a looong time ago from slashdot for stalking, abusive behavior, trolling and lack of proper writing style. Local celebrity if you will. Also he doesn't like being called by his real name, "Peter", for unknown reasons (maybe an unsolved father-son issue ?).

      He has to resort to proxies to AC-post here multiple copy/paste of his rants, hoping that, once in a blue moon, his posts will make it through the mods who usually send him down to "-1 Troll" oblivion faster than he can write.

      note: posting AC to avoid him stalking me (yep, that's part of his psychotic M.O.)

      Now, just admire the supernova explosion as you mention his living in his parents basement ;)

  29. The Ads Can Be Disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone worried about ad's, promptly disable them and then begin sending $10 a year to Mozilla.
    You'll avoid ads immediately and ensure their experimentation doesn't have to extend further in the future.

  30. True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  31. There's 11 more great hosts data sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o... program that I wrote to import, sort, deduplicate & make as efficient as possible the hosts data imported lets you use the source you use (good choice, they're great) & 11 others, all @ once!

    (OR by choices of ones you prefer to use only).

    * AdBlock & Ghostery = sold-out to advertisers (crippled by default) in the former, & OWNED by advertisers in the latter (ghostery)!

    Thus, you might as well trust your chickens in a henhouse guarded by a fox!

    AND

    Addons don't do a fraction of what hosts do either (per the points in my post you replied to)

    PLUS

    Addons don't work nearly as efficiently (read the links in my posts regarding that much too - especially regarding tests done on AdBlock CPU + RAM overconsumption (4++gb & more))...

    Addons are also redundant, & lastly run in a slower level of privelege, slowing already slower usermode/ring 3 browsers with added messagepassing overheads also.

    APK

    P.S.=> You ask WHY I post ac? I see no gains in having a "registered 'lusr'" account here is all - only losses in speed & possibly safety (javascript) + tracking & privacy (cookies) by having such an account here... plus, *IF* I have something nice to say to someone, I just say it (ala "good job") or the reverse... so 'modpoints' are b.s. to me as well (& those get massively abused here too - especially by multiple account using sockpuppeteers, which THIS SITE is LOADED with by the truckloads)... apk

  32. Forget Firefox 29 Button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Firefox needs a "Forget Firefox 29" button - they need to roll back to their previous version, quit ruining their browser, and cool off on these unnecessary new features until they get the browser right.

  33. Good one, already covered here... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    * :)

    (BOTH the source you pointed out AND the one Sir_Eptishous, the poster you replied to, uses in someonewhocares - another good one - are covered & used by my free custom hosts file creation program).

    APK

    P.S.=> None of them 'catches them all' (or rather, they find different ones, valid also) - so, hence, the "WHY" of why I created my program for custom hosts file creation... enjoy, should you elect to use it... apk

  34. $5.8 mill in 2004, $17B Netscape before that by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Firefox existed before it was a huge business and it will still exist if the huge business aspect falls apart.

    Specifically, the Mozilla foundation had revenue of $5.8 million in 2004, when Firefox was launched as a branch of Seamonkey, the Mozilla browser. They still had some support from Netscape, who had developed the browser while they were worth as much as $17 BILLION. Really, Firefox was created by Netscape, a mutli-billion dollar company.

  35. Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell me, how do I go about replicating this in a hosts file?

    youtube.com###yt-masthead-container

    AdBlock is not only about blocking static content. With element hiding helper you can instantly hide any part of any website that annoys you.

  36. DuckDuckGo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't used them in ages. I forgot all about them. Thanks for reminding me about DuckDuckGo.

  37. Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not until you tell him adblock does all these things hosts can http://news.slashdot.org/comme... (which adblock can't).

  38. Why the fuck are browsers free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pay yearly for anti-virus, why not just $15 a yr for a firefox? or $29.99 for a version and make every full version upg. kick ass?

  39. *IF* you don't trust it? Perhaps this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might convince you (it shut BarbaraHudson's mouth easily on that account) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    * The current literally BEST in the business (malwarebytes) have seen its code & verified it as safe (they even recommend it as the best of its kind @ the top of their hpHosts site -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    APK

    P.S.=> I don't owe YOU, or anyone *LIKE* you, to see my source... why? Everyone KNOWS you "Open SORES" bullshitters just steal others' code like mad anyhow (lol, since you CAN'T code yourself - care to prove otherwise? Thought not!)... apk

    1. Re:*IF* you don't trust it? Perhaps this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a. we don't steal, we *share*. A selfish idiotic bastard *LIKE* you cannot even imagine to fathom this in any way whatsoever.

      b. I'm 100% positive (certified and verified on numerous occasions) that every single person distributing a software for FREE without sharing the code is doing so for one of the two following reasons: 1. There is a malware/crapware/spyware/adware hidden inside or 2. the coding is so poor and full of BS that the author is ashamed to show it to the world. Could be both reasons as well (care to prove otherwise ? Thought not!) ... napk

    2. Re:*IF* you don't trust it? Perhaps this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The current literally BEST in the business (malwarebytes) have seen its code & verified it as safe (they even recommend it as the best of its kind @ the top of their hpHosts site -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

      That link you provided is a website "powered by Malwarebytes". Nowhere on malwarebytes.org do they actually endorse your software (heck they don't even mention it ! I doubt they even know it exists).

      Saying this page at hosts-file.net is an endorsement by Malwarebytes is alike to say that any post on blogger.com is endorsed by Google. Show us where Malwarebytes endorses you *LITERALLY* on malwarebytes.org and then we may start believing what you SHOUT. (and yes, I only half-trust malwarebytes.org, as they are a US-based company, subject to US privacy-invading laws)

    3. Re:*IF* you don't trust it? Perhaps this... by JonStewartMill · · Score: 1

      I was tempted to check out your program until I read your last paragraph. Way to screw yourself, dude.

    4. Re:*IF* you don't trust it? Perhaps this... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Everyone KNOWS you "Open SORES" bullshitters just steal others' code like mad anyhow

      Yea, fuck open source. Stop using Slashdot, Reddit, Java, Firefox, Chrome, Linux, Apache, ...

      ps - what's WITH the random uppercase?

      --
      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  40. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  41. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  42. True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  43. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  44. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  45. True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  46. Bing, Coke, Microsoft, Netflix. x00 million users by raymorris · · Score: 1

    What you say would be true for 99.999% of web sites. Since Firefox has a couple hundred million users or whatever they can make advertising deals directly with advertisers including Microsoft, Coca-Cola, McDonald's, Netflix, etc. For a multi-million transaction, there's no need to give a cut to a middle-man.

  47. Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ABP can do all of those things easily in conjunction with the filtering done in my router. It's faster and makes pages look better than some dinky software hosts file solution.

    Also, why are you talking about yourself in the third person? We all know it's you.

  48. Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's almost as if the FREE ultimate SOLUTION paid him to shill and post tons of spam every time someone mentions adblock.

  49. Thanks: ABP fails vs. hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It, like you, outright FAIL: ABP can't do those things by itself - period.

    APK

    P.S.=> Thank-You for proving my points here:

    "ABP can do all of those things easily in conjunction with the filtering done in my router." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 11, 2014 @11:31PM (#48365941)

    Like I said before - SEE SUBJECT LINE ABOVE (says it all: ABP can't DO all those things here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & YOU KNOW IT (by proving it with your statement)!)

    ---

    "It's faster and makes pages look better than some dinky software hosts file solution." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 11, 2014 @11:31PM (#48365941)

    LOL: Faster? You mean opperating in a SLOWER ring of cpu priority privelege in usermode (vs. hosts in kernelmode)?? WRONG! AdBlock eats SO MUCH RAM & CPU too -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... That it's not even funny... it's horribly inefficient!

    ---

    "Also, why are you talking about yourself in the third person? We all know it's you." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 11, 2014 @11:31PM (#48365941)

    ROTFLMAO: Why're YOU posting as ac then?? Don't YOU have the BALLS to speak under your "registered 'luser'" account?? Apparently not - Guess it wouldn't look "too good" to outright FAIL as you have here using it, especially vs. myself (& hosts superiority vs. "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" crippled by default)... would it??? Nope... lol!

    Again - thanks (for making ME look good & yourself, by way of comparison?? Well... lol, "not so good"... AdBlock too!)... apk

    1. Re:Thanks: ABP fails vs. hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like I said before - SEE SUBJECT LINE ABOVE (says it all: ABP can't DO all those things here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] & YOU KNOW IT (by proving it with your statement)!)

      It can with the filtering that is already in place on my router.

      LOL: Faster? You mean opperating in a SLOWER ring of cpu priority privelege in usermode (vs. hosts in kernelmode)?? WRONG! AdBlock eats SO MUCH RAM & CPU too -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... [mozilla.org] That it's not even funny... it's horribly inefficient!

      My router is its own self-contained system and doesn't use any CPU time or RAM on any of the computers and devices hooked up to it. Also, I only have to configure my router once, instead of using your method which requires setting up every single PC and device individually. So yeah, try again.

      ROTFLMAO: Why're YOU posting as ac then?? Don't YOU have the BALLS to speak under your "registered 'luser'" account?? Apparently not - Guess it wouldn't look "too good" to outright FAIL as you have here using it, especially vs. myself (& hosts superiority vs. "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" crippled by default)... would it??? Nope... lol!

      Posting anonymously and pretending to be someone else to in order to write posts in praise of yourself are two completely different things. The former is simply a privacy matter, the latter (what you did) is dishonest and pathetic.

      In addition, you act and speak just like a child.

  50. No questions asked: YOU & ABP, fail... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" (+ "read 'em & weep", fool) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme... since in case you apparently don't REALIZE this?

    YOU FAIL!

    (So does "Almost ALL Ads Blocked", vs. hosts...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Once more: Thanks for proving my points on hosts superiority to the crippled by default SOULED-OUT "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" + making ME look GOOD... & yourself, by way of comparison? Well... lol, "not so good"!

    ... apk

  51. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  52. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  53. True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  54. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  55. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  56. True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  57. Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by visavillem · · Score: 1

    Can your solution block these annoying posts about itself? If yes, then i'm in.

    --
    I'm not really here, it's just more probable that i'm here, than anywhere else.
  58. Re:AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can your off topic bs block apk's facts of how hosts are better than ABP? No. Prove apk wrong: You can't!

  59. Wrong: Learn to read, moron... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "That link you provided is a website "powered by Malwarebytes". Nowhere on malwarebytes.org do they actually endorse your software (heck they don't even mention it ! I doubt they even know it exists)." - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @07:31AM (#48367293)

    No? Learn to read: "I'd suggest using HostsMan or APK Hosts File Engine as these will do it all for you;"

    THAT'S @ THE TOP OF THAT PAGE, from Mr. Steven Burn, WHO RUNS THAT SITE FOR MALWAREBYTES (He's an employee of malwarebytes, who has seen & verified my sourcecode as safe, you moron).

    * They also provide links to it on that same page later on lower down that page of theirs, stupid...

    (Unbelievable how DUMB you trolls here truly are... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> IMPORTANT QUESTION: How does "eating your words" taste, stupid? LMAO... apk

    1. Re:Wrong: Learn to read, moron... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That link you provided is a website "powered by Malwarebytes". Nowhere on malwarebytes.org do they actually endorse your software (heck they don't even mention it ! I doubt they even know it exists)." - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @07:31AM (#48367293)

      No? Learn to read: "I'd suggest using HostsMan or APK Hosts File Engine as these will do it all for you;"

      THAT'S @ THE TOP OF THAT PAGE

      That's at the top of a page on the website hosts-file.net, not on malwarebytes.org. Still waiting for a word on your malware-ridden software at malwarebytes.org.

      Still Waiting

      Still Waiting
      ...

      Still Waiting

      Done waiting, nothing is coming. Guess you ate your words stupid ? LMAO LOL... napk

      ps: I'm having a good laugh imagining you with foam at your mouth because you've been shown to make a fool of yourself for everyone here to see. Calm down dude, almost nobody reads your lunatic posts so only a few chosen will have seen your defeat. Have a nice day darling.

  60. That "idiotic bastard" writes his own code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK's ware's been tested by the best in the industry, malwarebytes, stupid http://news.slashdot.org/comme... which shut the weirdo BarbaraHudson's mouth easily on this site on this account before (learn to read, moron) and tell us the answer to this question: How does "eating your words" taste? Struck a nerve when apk told the truth on "Open SORES", now didn't it? Truth hurts! You "Open SORES" goofs can't code and you steal code from those that can. By comparison? APK writes his own code, recommended as the best of its kind in fact per that link and verified as safe/not malware of any sort.Now, You, and those like you? No way. You can't. You steal code and pass it off as "yours" (lol, what a joke!).

    1. Re:That "idiotic bastard" writes his own code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't make sense. Your statements are highly illogical. Were would we "steal code" from ? We can only use code from other open source projects (with compatible licensing, but that's too much information for your little brain).

      Lemme explain how you made a logical fallacy: we can only use code from open source and you said

      you steal code from those that can

      therefore, according to you, "open source people can code", but you also said

      You "Open SORES" goofs can't code

      so you said in the same sentence that open source people can code and that they can't code.

      Care to explain ?

  61. Why'd YOU post ac then, troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never been "banned" on /., I just don't see the value in using a "registered 'luser'" account.

    Answer the question in my subject then, big talker: Why are YOU posting ac?

    ANSWER = YOU Took TOO many spankings from ME before that I can toss right back in your face why?? Yes... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Weak off topic little trolls can't prove my points of fact wrong on how hosts files provide more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity vs. "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & sold out to Google, PLUS, limited as hell compared to hosts AND inefficient on RAM + CPU like mad compared to hosts also running in slower usermode slowing up already slower webbrowsers with more messagepassing also... and Adblock's being destroyed by ClarityRay ontop of all that too? Please... lol!)... apk

    1. Re:Why'd YOU post ac then, troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just don't see the value in using a "registered 'luser'" account.

      So why do you accuse other AC of hiding ? They're just doing what you do. Now, if only you could prove that you'd not be banned from posting within a week with a registered account. Here is my bet: you cannot register an account and not be banned within a fortnight.

      Answer the question in my subject then, big talker: Why are YOU posting ac?

      Now, now, dear ... the dude stated it straight in his post:

      note: posting AC to avoid him stalking me (yep, that's part of his psychotic M.O.)

      Guess he got it alright. Plus you failed at reading his post. Doesn't make you look good.

      P.S.=> Weak off topic little trolls can't prove my points of fact wrong

      We don't need to, you cripple yourself by failing to write coherent and legible posts.

  62. You FAIL troll... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't validly prove my points on hosts wrong, & you can't show ABP doing more than hosts (lol) - & you KNOW it: I surely do, as does anybody else reading, it's SO damn obvious... lol!

    * I seriously wonder just HOW MANY TIMES I have utterly SPANKED you on this account?

    (Can't tell, unless you post using your "registered 'luser'" account here... & then, I'd just point out how many times (since I keep them bookmarked for laughs & times just like these)).

    APK

    P.S.=> The fact You HAVE to post AC proves my points above (since you've *TRIED* it before & failed, obviously) & so you can bogusly downmod my posts on hosts superiority to ABP & other INFERIOR BROWSER ADDONS - do you REALLY *think* you're "fooling anyone" other than yourself? apk

    1. Re:You FAIL troll... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Guys, you know what's funny with my lovely Peter ? I'll tell you: he will always answer, no matter how asinine or unrelated your posts are !! :)

      You know why ? because for him, this is not an exchange of point of view. No no, he's just absolutely convinced that to win an argument you have to be the last one to post. Ain't that funny ? you post last, you win ... (yeah I know, does'nt make sense, but it wouldn't be his first logical fallacy as we have seen lately)

      One can't help but wonder how he keeps track of all these exchanges ... you think he has firefox open with dozens of tabs and he keep pressing the refresh button every 5 sec. ?

      Granted, he's either unemployed (and thus probably has nothing better to do) or if his employer ever finds out how much time he wastes here, he'll get in trouble. Don't you think ?

      Anyway, it was fun playing with it again. I'll let you keep the game on but I got to go for the next few days. Don't break it, it's a nice guy overall, fantasizing that it's saving the world (or something) with its useless crapware !!

      ps: my dearest Peter, if you're reading this, don't be upset darling, it was fun playing with you again. We should hang out for a coffee someday. Love you Peter. Dad.

    2. Re:You FAIL troll... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyway, it was fun playing with it again. I'll let you keep the game on but I got to go for the next few days

      oh! too bad, just when the fun was starting. We've proven so far (by either explicit or implicit aknowledgment by APK) that:

      • - he can't show any code he wrote (either he's ashamed of it, or it contains malware or it contains stolen software we don't know for sure)
      • - he reuses other people's code yet claims to write everything himself (hello zipfiles and auto-install)
      • - he doesn't know what a proxy is
      • - host file are an extremely poor and limited way to do things
      • - his "awesome" (sarcasm right here Peter) program is not the best, instead "it will do" and it's only second in a sub-sub-page of a pet project of a malwarebytes.org employee, HostsMan being considered better
      • - he thinks that being endorsed in an obscure sub-page of a different website by a malwarebytes employee means malwarebytes endorses (and venerates) his crapware
      • - he has daddy/mummy issues. Most likely had a miserable childhood and adulthood (maybe we should just pity him and stop the game ?)
      • - he's a misogynist
      • - he doesn't work in IT. Probably never did.
      • - he's very focused and has dozen of tabs open in his IE 5 browser pressing refresh constantly
      • - under-average intelligence, IQ estimates are around 83 (with a 9-point c.i.) the simulation program needs new data to make a more accurate estimate but the dude keeps repeating himself like a bot, so it's proving difficult to reach the appropriate threshold. *IF* it's a bot he just passed the turing test.
      • - in his fifties or soon to be, disgruntled
    3. Re:You FAIL troll... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LMAO: You can't prove apk wrong on AdBlock's inferiority to hosts here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... and you talk a lousy game being unable to produce a shred of code you've done yourself (obviously that much is beyond a troll like yourself, of course, which we all realize).

    4. Re:You FAIL troll... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      print "APK is a code thief who can't prove AdBlock's inferiority to hosts. also he can't show us any code he wrote (probably because it's malware-ridden crapware or full of stolen code written by others)"

  63. Hey stupid? Their employee runs it for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You missed the fact Mr. Steven Burn a malwarebytes employee runs hpHosts site & is an employee of theirs who verified my sourcecode as safe/clean?

    * He is, you FAIL (as usual, lol) & THAT, is that.

    APK

    P.S.=> I absolutely *LOVE* making fools like yourself "eat your words", every single time... apk

    1. Re:Hey stupid? Their employee runs it for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no he didn't, nowhere does he say "I saw and checked the code", and no, malwarebytes does not endorse you through his employee as long as it's not on malwarebytes.org (it could be just a pet project of S. Burn as far as we know).

      Speaking of burn, there is a smell on slashdot lately ... the smell of APK being buuuuuuuurned !! lmao lol \o/

  64. You ARE screwing yourself: Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you use "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & sold out to advertisers + less capable & efficient than hosts) you're screwing yourself, badly... then again?

    * You're MORE THAN WELCOME to validly prove my points on hosts superiority to AdBlock wrong, here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    (Good luck - you'll NEED it: More like a miracle... since it can't be validly done!)

    APK

    P.S.=> No matter WHAT lowness you all step down to, including downmodding all my posts? You FAIL WHERE IT MATTERS - proving me, wrong (you can't, & anyone reading knows it, lol)... apk

    1. Re:You ARE screwing yourself: Why? by JonStewartMill · · Score: 1

      WTF ever. If your product is anywhere near as good as your marketing approach of browbeating and insulting people for not using it, I figure I'm not missing anything.

    2. Re:You ARE screwing yourself: Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pot calling a kettle black? You're all tossing insults (yet you can't prove apk's points on hosts wrong so go away).

  65. When you use others' code you didn't write? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: What's anyone supposed to think here then, that YOU yourselves wrote it? Wrong. Truth got to you, didn't it? Yes, judging by your reaction. Open SORES plagiarism justifications don't cut it from you.

    1. Re:When you use others' code you didn't write? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be Xmas, you implicitly admit making a logical fallacy *and* you follow with a second one ? it's not plagiarism, it's called licensing agreement. Go buy a dictionary, redneck.

  66. Additionally WRONG: Like StarTrek TOS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "He has to resort to proxies to AC-post here" - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @07:50AM (#48367351)

    "I know isis: We'll be gone, before they get here..." - Mr. 7, StarTrek TOS "Assignment Earth" episode...

    * THAT is pretty much all I can say to THAT quote of YOURS - I can't be caged/restricted...

    ( & NO, you are WRONG - I don't resort to the work of others to do it, as primitive limited OPEN SORES fools like you always have to do... I do it, myself (no limits)).

    APK

    P.S. => That's the big difference between guys like me, & those like you... & The old-schoolers around here should appreciate that - you can't stop me, for those reasons, pretty much... apk

    1. Re:Additionally WRONG: Like StarTrek TOS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maaaan ... you really don't know what a proxy is, do you ? What are you ? a high-school dropout ?

  67. Big Brother-safe too? by TRosenbaum · · Score: 1

    Will this feature axe my google search/NSA history too? Didn't think so.

  68. What did you NOT understand, dolt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Again: I don't NEED the work of others (in proxies) to do unlimited posting here... get it? Good (about time)...

    APK

    P.S.=> Of course, YOU have difficulty comprehending that obviously - since all "the likes of YOU" can do, is use the work of others (as in proxies you alluded to) - not I... apk

    1. Re:What did you NOT understand, dolt? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again: I don't NEED the work of others (in proxies) to do unlimited posting here.

      So that's a "yes", you have zero idea what a proxy is. Maybe you are using Tor instead ?

  69. Learn to code for YOURSELF, plagiarist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See my subject-line? That's all YOU are capable of, "Open SORES" boy...

    * Truth hurt? Obviously it does, based on your "FoAmiNg-@-The-MouTh" reaction, lol....

    APK

    P.S.=> Learn to construct code yourself - then, next time, the truth of Open SORES plagiarism you practice wouldn't get to you so badly... lmao! apk

    1. Re:Learn to code for YOURSELF, plagiarist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm absolutely delighted to announce the world (i.e. the 3 guys reading these posts) that apk cannot code and that he is reusing opensource code all over his malware-ridden software.

      He therefore refuses to show us the code of his crapware because it would show everyone that he stole everything.

      Is that some foam left on the corner of your mouth my dearest Peter ? quick, clean it before your dad notices !!

    2. Re:Learn to code for YOURSELF, plagiarist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Learn to read. He's shown people his code in the security community http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

  70. You can't show apk any code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That you yourself wrote as you were challenged to do by him. Apk's right about that.

    1. Re:You can't show apk any code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK can't show any code he wrote himself as he was challenged to do by us, so I guess it's a tie :) ... napk

    2. Re:You can't show apk any code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK can't show any code he wrote himself as he was challenged to do by us, so I guess it's a tie :) ... napk

      You've got to be blind then. He did here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... certainly here http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    3. Re:You can't show apk any code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is not a single line of code in these pages, so I stand by my words.

      APK can't show any code he wrote himself

      Your turn Peter ;)

    4. Re:You can't show apk any code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's actual good solid running code here by apk (like you don't have of your own) http://start64.com/index.php?o... that does all it says it can there enumerated and is recommended by others sites of its kind in the security community as the best of its kind. You can't seem to prove those points shown there wrong either, so, there you go. You fail.

  71. AdBlock FAILS vs hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fact: AdBlock CAN'T DO all of what I listed by itself: Hosts can -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme... so you can mod those down ALL DAY as you have, & it doesn't change a thing... (& you know it, I know it, as does ANYONE ELSE READING too).

    * See subject-line above: You fail... so does AdBlock!

    APK

    P.S.=> You're pitiful (& WEAK)... apk

  72. Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sburn@malwarebytes.org (Now, the smell of YOU being burnt is palpable) & he'll verify he's seen my actual sourcecode, + verified it's clean - hence WHY they recommend my ware as "best of breed" for what it does (a something the trolling scum likes of YOU will never, EVER, be able to manage... heck: It's obvious you WISH YOU WERE ME!).

    APK

    P.S.=> Honestly? At this point, You're showing yourself as nothing more than a TOTALLY pitiful loser... apk

  73. I could write a proxy system (you can't) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line: I'm could literally write my OWN if I wished - you can't, 1st of all (& it'd be MY OWN CODE, no someone else's ripped off ala "Open SORES" plagiarism).

    Secondly (so it sinks in to a no-mind loser like yourself?)/Again:

    I don't use proxies OR TOR to post here as much as I like... lol, & all the 'brainiacs' (lol, NOT) of /. can't figure it out HOW I do it (much less stop me).

    Face facts: I'm WORLDS ABOVE the puny trolling "likes of you" (lowest of the LOW types of losers online).

    APK

    P.S.=> Again: You're a pitiful little trolling "ne'er-do-well" no skills in computing stooge, nothing more... apk

    1. Re:I could write a proxy system (you can't) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Face facts: I'm WORLDS ABOVE the puny trolling "likes of you"

      And yet, your daily "job" is fixing sinks an holes in the ceiling. Way to go for a wannabe god of coding.

      I'm placing my bet that you're such a lousy programmer that no software company (big or small) wants an incompetent jerk like you. From what I know you failed every interview you took.

  74. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sent an email and got the following reply:

    Dear Antony Curacao,

    I've indeed been contacted by an individual named Alexander P. Kowalski.
    The guy seems highly delusional and completely crazy, his code is batshit insane (trust me you don't wanna see that)
    However he threatened to troll us till the end of time like he's been doing on slashdot for years. In order to get rid of his abysmal incoherent emails spamming me *dozens* of times a day, I choose to put that advice on some obscure webpage outside of malwarebytes.org.
    I eventually managed to make him believe that this was some sort of great accomplishment of his and he's left us alone since then.
    Please don't tell him. We don't want to receive another thousand of his crappy spams again.

    Kind regards,

    Steven Burn

    you can email the dude if you don't believe it !!

  75. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would he recommend it as the best on his website here then? http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... You're not believable.

  76. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would he recommend it as the best on his website

    He does not, learn to read. The word "best" doesn't even appear on that page. You are ridiculous Peter (and stop acting like it's not you we all know it is. Standard M.O. from a psycho)

  77. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks good to me "I'd suggest using HostsMan or APK Hosts File Engine as these will do it all for you"

  78. APK can't show any code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's actual good solid running code here ... http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    That's no code!

    All there is on that page at start64 is a binary installer in a zip file. Not a single line of legible code

    Are we to understand that you don't know what "code" means ? not knowing what a proxy is was already bad enough for an (alleged) B.Sc., you're going deep down here.

  79. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So we went down from "it's the best out there" to "I'd sugest ... it will do it". And you're not even his first choice as HostsMan takes the lead.

    I finally feel we're getting somewhere with you. With that nice example, do you begin to understand that words have a meaning ?

  80. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not mentioned as good anywhere. You're a "ne'er-do-well" troll, nothing more.

  81. Quit projecting, you "ne'er-do-well" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering you are offtopic & a complete "ne'er-do-well" troll that can't code "hello world" especially, lmao... you're giving me guff?

    * Sorry - now *IF* you were a competent peer of mine, which you are not evidenced by your lack of doing *anything* we could see in the way of programs you've done? Then, *MAYBE* I'd take your b.s. to heart... otherwise? You're nothing more than a useless online off topic trolling "ne'er-do-well" (& you KNOW it - we all do).

    APK

    P.S.=> It makes me wonder how completely STUPID some people can be sometimes (but not after reading your stupidities)... apk

  82. Show us 2 things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Code you wrote and prove AdBlock can do more than hosts can http://news.slashdot.org/comme... from the points apk put out on that account. Understand first that we all know you can't do either so keep making yourself so easy to setup and knock down like a bowling pin, troll: Keep us laughing at you!

    1. Re:Show us 2 things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose you coded your own OS and compiler yourself ? How did you manage to make a compiler that generates Windows executable binaries without reusing Windows API ? I'm very curious (... not!! I know for sure you're a fraud)

  83. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hahaha, APK has been defeated by a troll. He was shown to lie to everyone about his software being "the best out there" when it's not. lmao... napk

  84. R O T F L M A O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't show any code you did. You also can't prove apk wrong on hosts being better than adblock http://news.slashdot.org/comme... by a mile. You got slapped!

  85. Re:Dear Troll Stooge: Write him yourself then... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't prove apk wrong on hosts doing far more than adblock here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... so apk's defeated you from the very start here moron, by letting you defeat yourself. Works for him every single time.

  86. R O T F L M A O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't prove apk wrong on AdBlock's inferiority to hosts herehttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6015253&cid=48360419 and you talk a lousy game being unable to produce a shred of code you've done yourself (obviously that much is beyond a troll like yourself, of course, which we all realize).

  87. apk cowardly hiding behing sockpuppets... napk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you were wrong saying that your crapware is the best. you're defeated apk, stop hiding behind sockpuppets. It's both ilharious and pitiful to see you hide like that, coward!! (or speaking 3rd person, who knows)

    plus when you send short lines like this through sockpuppets instead of your usual diatribe, it means that you *feel* defeated. now you've just to admit it, after that life will seem easier, you'll see :)

  88. Still can't prove apk's points wrong can you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's clearly the best being recommended as such http://news.slashdot.org/comme... so where's your your programs you've written? Answer = they're not. You're full of hot air and nothing more than a useless off topic "ne'er-do-well" troll.

    1. Re:Still can't prove apk's points wrong can you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my program have been written and sold to private companies. Yours ? no one wants them, they're crap, so you feel forced to distribute them for free in a pitiful attempt to save face, lol. And even then nobody sane uses them LMAO!!

      as for your BS on hosts files:

      hosts cannot block self-hosted ads. hosts cannot white-list. hosts cannot selectively block *anything* (blocking templates). hosts rely on unknown potentially sold-out 3rd parties and are slow to update (poor reactivity) and search (poor linear lookup).

    2. Re:Still can't prove apk's points wrong can you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which companies are those? You're wrong on hosts again too. Real ads don't pay if they're hosted on the same server. Hosts can 'white list' your favorite sites (placed at the top of hosts files equates to ~ 3 million indexed lookups if you keep 25 or so such favorite sites) making them access faster since they get cached into ram (rest of the blocked sites' speed doesn't matter, they're known bad and blocked. Who cares how fast you get to those when you don't ever intend to get to them). Hosts perfectly selectively block ads, malware, spam, and more. You fail again on all accounts and your lack of proof of those companies you speak of.

    3. Re:Still can't prove apk's points wrong can you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh yeah? tell me how I can block google analytics for all websites except slashdot. Blocking every site but a few select one is what people call whitelisting, putting your website at the top of your hosts file to "cache" it as you say is not whitelisting and has never been in any language.

      besides, you cannot block one ad panel and not another, or block only some categories of ads based on a given template, that's what selectively means.

      you fail so much by not even understanding basic English words that it's a wonder you didn't put your cat in a microwave yet.

      and btw self-hosted ads can pay, you're just too ignorant and too full of yourself to know and understand how.

  89. LMAO: You can't prove apk wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On hosts being better doing more than AdBlock here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... and you can't. You fail as always.

  90. apk is wrong and a proven idiot :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hosts cannot block self-hosted ads. hosts cannot white-list. hosts cannot selectively block *anything* (blocking templates). hosts rely on unknown potentially sold-out 3rd parties and are slow to update (poor reactivity) and search (poor linear lookup).

    now if only apk could

    127.0.0.1 slashdot.org

    this would suddenly be a smarter place.

    hey, apk !! is "127.0.0.1 *" even possible ? can you try it for us ?

    1. Re:apk is wrong and a proven idiot :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hosts cannot block self-hosted ads. hosts cannot white-list. hosts cannot selectively block *anything* (blocking templates). hosts rely on unknown potentially sold-out 3rd parties and are slow to update (poor reactivity) and search (poor linear lookup).

      You forgot the part where hostfiles are not and cannot be user-specific and require admin privileges to be edited.

      This means that a non-admin user cannot set this up, and has exactly zero way to configure it at will. Granted, this can be a good thing if that's exactly what the admin (a.k.a. the parent) of the machine wants (think of the children!). And event then, it can probably be bypassed.

      Add this to your remarks and all you get is a nonsensical and unpractical way to solve a non-existing problem, except in limited cases.

  91. AdBlock can't do a fraction of what hosts can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shown here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... Real ads don't pay if they're hosted on the same server. Hosts can 'white list' your favorite sites (placed at the top of hosts files equates to ~ 3 million indexed lookups if you keep 25 or so such favorite sites) making them access faster since they get cached into ram (rest of the blocked sites' speed doesn't matter, they're known bad and blocked. Who cares how fast you get to those when you don't ever intend to get to them). Hosts perfectly selectively block ads, malware, spam, and more.

    * You fail again on all accounts.

    APK

    P.S.=> You're way, Way, WAY TOO TECHNICALLY "WEAK" to even BEGIN to *THINK* the trolling likes of "you" could even "try" me... you're too weak! apk

  92. Hosts work systemwide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And hosts enjoy systemwide protection due to limited amounts users being able to edit them; hosts are also many times more efficient than adblock in terms of ram and cpu use https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... as well as operating in a higher cpu serviced ring of privelege in kernelmode as opposed to usermode browsers, which are slowed up even more by layering on more message passing overheads by layering in browser addons. Fact: AdBlock can't do a fraction of what hosts can OR nearly as efficiently as shown here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... either. Real ads don't pay if they're hosted on the same server. Hosts can 'white list' your favorite sites (placed at the top of hosts files equates to ~ 3 million indexed lookups if you keep 25 or so such favorite sites) making them access faster since they get cached into ram (rest of the blocked sites' speed doesn't matter, they're known bad and blocked. Who cares how fast you get to those when you don't ever intend to get to them). Hosts perfectly selectively block ads, malware, spam, and more. You fail again on all accounts.

  93. They get blocked everywhere: Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're advertisers (who not only suck up your bandwidth you pay for, but also have infected us many times over the years also due to their negligence on checking exactly what goes on in ads), stupid.

    * Get it? Good...

    (As for your illusions on self-hosted ads paying? LMAO - admen don't TRUST webmasters on clickcounts, so THAT is not going to happen... & thus your 1 "advantage" IS PURE BULLSHIT, & MOOT!)

    Oh, & on 'whitelisting': Ever heard of, or seen, hosts.allow &/or hosts.deny on Linux?

    APK

    P.S.=> You still can't show "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (inefficient in RAM + CPU use as hell -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... AND slower in usermode, slowing up usermode slower browsers as is, with added messagepassing overheads + CPU & RAM use that's outta control too - crippled by default & SOLD OUT to advertisers as well NOT DOING ITS JOB & being crushed by ClarityRAY too...) doing MORE THAN HOSTS CAN or as efficiently in kernelmode with less CPU & RAM consumed (since it can't & YOU KNOW IT, lol) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    ... apk

    1. Re:They get blocked everywhere: Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hosts.allow and deny won't do what I'm asking you. you're seriously full of it. you mis-read a text and then you understand what you like out of it (almost the opposite of what was asked from you) and make stupid statements based on what pleases your hosts fetish.

      you fail at simple comprehension of simple questions and you fail even more at answering them simply and directly. instead you choose to avoid them and answer whatever pleases you and wasn't asked to you

      you cannot whitelist ads for certain website which you can do in your browser, you cannot decide to block some parts and not others and you cannot block self-hosted ads. period.

      oh, and don't think we didn't notice that you eschewed answering those remarks as well:

      hosts rely on unknown potentially sold-out 3rd parties and are slow to update (poor reactivity) and search (poor linear lookup).

      to everyone looking for a fully defeated apk, this is now because he cannot answer to these simple questions. why ? because the extremely simple answer is:

      no, hosts file cannot do these things and yes, they rely on unknown potentially sold-out 3rd parties (just like ad-block and others)

      but that simple direct answer collides with his religious belief in hosts files. therefore like any religious zealot, he will attempt to go around it with logical fallacies, aggressions and avoiding the questions.

    2. Re:They get blocked everywhere: Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fact: You can't prove apk wrong on his points on hosts superiority to adblock here http://start64.com/index.php?o... So, if you're so sure of yourself, it's odd how you avoid doing that (perhaps since proving apk's points listed there can't be validly done and you know it. At this point we all know you're helpless there.).

    3. Re:They get blocked everywhere: Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talking in the 3rd person, Peter darling ? That's so cute, you think you're a queen or something ?

      More on topic, what obligation do we have to you or anybody to show you wrong ? Do we owe you that ? No. Besides, we already showed you wrong so many times over the past 15 years that we stopped doing that, we got bored, it wasn't funny anymore. However we did show the superiority of Adblock and others on several points that you couldn't prove false (it's odd how you avoid even trying to do that) and that's more than the lunatic likes of you could manage. You fail hard dear.

      So, if you're so sure of yourself, it's odd how you avoid showing us some great quality code you wrote (perhaps since you didn't wrote any it can't be validly done and you know it. At this point we all know you're helpless there.)

      All facts my love.

      Dad.

  94. Since you're full of b.s. & I'm not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "my program have been written and sold to private companies. Yours ? no one wants them, they're crap, so you feel forced to distribute them for free in a pitiful attempt to save face, lol. And even then nobody sane uses them LMAO!!" -

    Write Mr. Eric Dickman of SuperSpeed.com (formerly EEC Systems) who bought out my code for their SuperCache I/II system, ok? You'll "eat your words", chump...

    (That's also NOT counting the dozens of "enterprise class" sized systems & 100's of smaller programs I'd written as a professional programmer in the MIS/IS/IT realm 1994-2010 as a professional programmer I did too...)

    You were asked WHICH companies allegedly bought code from you earlier - you OMIT ANSWERING (due to your lies no doubt, that you can't backup with substantiating facts)... lol!

    The gent I ask you to write above? He'll tell you the ideas I had for using SuperCache + SuperDisk made SQLServer increase its performance by up to 40% by using techniques (placing DB devices onto SuperDisk) I noted on their website alongside Mr. John Enck (Windows IT Pro technical editor) to do so, allowing it FINALIST PLACEMENT in the hardest category there 2 yrs. in a row (2000-2002) in "SQLServer Performance Enhancement"... you done better?

    Let's see it then from you.

    APK

    P.S.=> You, or the trolling "likes of you"? Junior, listen: I was doing things like winning esteemed tradeshows in the field of computing while you were STILL IN DIAPERS (that, or making publications galore in the software realm in the same timeframe while working FULL-TIME as a programmer/analyst - software engineer too)... apk

    1. Re:Since you're full of b.s. & I'm not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      looks like I touched a sensitive spot here darling :)

      your pitiful lies won't change anything to the truth: you failed to show any code you wrote, not even a basic "hello world".

      ps: you know nothing about my age. I could be your dad or a dog and you wouldn't know kiddo.

    2. Re:Since you're full of b.s. & I'm not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As usual you can't prove apk wrong on his points on hosts superiority to adblock http://news.slashdot.org/comme... and what obligation does apk have to you or anybody to show his actual sourcecode for? Does he owe you that? No. He did show his code he wrote in action (and you can't prove his points above wrong on it) here http://start64.com/index.php?o... which is more than the trolling likes of you could manage. You fail.

  95. You can't show adblock do more than hosts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's right: See subject-line above, and realize - You failed http://news.slashdot.org/comme... Hahahahaha

    1. Re:You can't show adblock do more than hosts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We did show it Peter darling, as follow:

      hosts cannot block self-hosted ads. hosts cannot white-list. hosts cannot selectively block *anything* (blocking templates). hosts rely on unknown potentially sold-out 3rd parties and are slow to update (poor reactivity) and search (poor linear lookup).

      and

      [...] hostfiles are not and cannot be user-specific and require admin privileges to be edited.

      This means that a non-admin user cannot set this up, and has exactly zero way to configure it at will. So if you're at work on a work laptop with non-admin right. hosts cannot help you. Adblock ? easy ! three clicks away.

      In all these important aspects the likes of AdBlock are superior to hostsfile. Probably we could find many oyhers, but why bother ? We know what you will do next: ignore this and act as if we never proved you wrong, even though we just did.

      Oh, and malwarebytes' forum just got hacked. There goes your great reference for your awesome (not!) crapware.

      This too, I suppose you will ignore and act as if nothing happened. You're bad faith made flesh dear, and we know you so well :)

      Love Peter,

      Dad.

  96. That's not proving apk wrong at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On 15 things AdBlock can't do, hosts can, here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... (hosts do all that. What both it and adblock do, hosts do more and better with less, no less. Hosts operate globally systemwide (no user left out) with WFP protection + ACL protection adblock doesn't have)).

    Further, I don't see any evidence of their forums being hacked (big deal, not hard to do, they didn't write their forums ware either, after all), not that it matters here.

    By contrast, I did see evidence of MalwareBytes' ability to take overall best here in a very recent test of efficacy of the wares they did write, which were better than anybody else's in the antivirus/antispyware genre of software this year though, here http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    Your point on self-hosted ads is also moot: Ads that pay aren't served from the same server: Admen don't trust webmasters on view click counts.

  97. is apk technically weak ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On 15 things AdBlock can't do, hosts can, here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... (hosts do all that. What both it and adblock do, hosts do more and better with less, no less. Hosts operate globally systemwide (no user left out) with WFP protection + ACL protection adblock doesn't have)).

    and as we expected you avoid answering (and your answer is off target because you didn't understand what we were saying), we've shown you things adblock and others can do that hosts cannot do, thus proving that hosts files are useless and unpractical for actual (aka real-life, as opposed to your fantasy-la-la-land) use-cases.

    Further, I don't see any evidence of their forums being hacked

    look harder. are you that incompetent that you cannot JFGI ? my grandkids could find that info in 5 sec.

    Your point on self-hosted ads is also moot.

    it's moot only if you're technically weak. to well-informed rational people, it's not moot. look harder.

  98. You're technically weak troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't show adblock does more, more efficiently than hosts http://news.slashdot.org/comme... and your "so-called 'points'" were b.s.: Advertisers don't trust webmasters on clickview counts, so ads being served from the same server as a website DON'T PAY (and which is why you rarely, if ever, see one). I also don't see any proof of malwarebytes' forums being hacked (not that that would be their fault: Forums wares are easy to hack, and malwarebytes didn't write their forums ware code). I did however, by comparison, see malwarebytes being the most effective antivirus/antispyware package there is as of this very recent test from a reputable source (which you don't have, just b.s. only out of you) http://www.av-test.org/en/news... where what they did write does the job better than anyone else, and they host + recommend apk's host file engine as the best of its kind, doing all you need to create, manage, and optimize hosts files (which do more for speed, security, and reliability online than adblock could ever do).

    1. Re:You're technically weak troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't show adblock does more, more efficiently than hosts

      Darling I'm so disappointed in you: we did show it, there. That's at least 7 points my dear Peter and you just ignored it as per your usual infamous yourself. To be accurate, you tried to address one point (see below), but you still failed at basic reading comprehension. We say "self-hosted ads cannot be blocked by hosts". The correct answer is "no they can't". Your stupid answer is "I don't know how self-hosted ads could work so I call BS on you".

      your "so-called 'points'" were b.s.: Advertisers don't trust webmasters on clickview counts, so ads being served from the same server as a website DON'T PAY (and which is why you rarely, if ever, see one).

      Translation of apk's BS in plain English: I don't know it so it doesn't exist (aka apk is technically weak)

      I also don't see any proof of malwarebytes' forums being hacked

      Translation: apk is not even competent enough to perform a simple google search with the basic keywords "malwarebytes forum hacked". Do your homework stupid.

      blah blah blah

      Irrelevant since they were using software that could get compromised, your software that you keep pretending they "recommend" (which they don't) could be as weak as the software they were using.

      Love Peter,

      Dad.

    2. Re:You're technically weak troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also don't see any proof of malwarebytes' forums being hacked

      Translation: apk is not even competent enough to perform a simple google search with the basic keywords "malwarebytes forum hacked". Do your homework stupid.

      unfortunatley, the problem is that he has:

      127.0.0.1 google.com

      in his hosts file :)

    3. Re:You're technically weak troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately for you apk kicked your ass all over this site here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... where you can't prove him wrong that adblock can't do as much as hosts (hosts just do more, astoundingly enough with less too) and isn't nearly as efficient either.

    4. Re:You're technically weak troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, my dear Peter, did you finally find the info about malwarebytes' hack or are you too clumsy to use a search engine ?

      I mean, a company using insecure software "recommends" (according to you, but we debunked that claim long ago) to use your software. Isn't it sweetly ironic darling ?

      Love,

      Dad.

      ps: I couldn't help but notice that you're talking in the 3rd person again. I'm a bit worried about you lately, did you forget your medication once more ?

  99. 1 word (ClarityRay) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AdBlock's being eaten alive by ClarityRay (hosts aren't and can't be).

  100. AdBlock can't do as much as hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for playing, see subject-line above, & this link (you fail) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    * :)

    (See that bolded part above? Truth's like that... lol!)

    Additionally, once more:

    Your "so-called 'points'" are TOTAL bullshit!

    (As again, ads that pay aren't served from the same server (which is why you RARELY, if ever, see them that way) - admen don't trust webmaster's view/click counts).

    APK

    P.S.=> Adblock's SOLD-OUT to NOT do its job-> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    AdBlock's being destroyed by ClarityRay (which can't affect hosts files) ->

    AdBlock's also inefficient as hell vs. hosts (eating up 4++gb of RAM & tearing up CPU like mad, not to mention it runs in usermode slowness adding to messagepassing overheads in usermode browsers, slowing them up even more https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... )

    AdBlock's also REDUNDANT (hosts do the job way, Way, WAY BEFORE browser addons even start to run - and hosts are in kernelmode (faster/more cpu allowed) vs. usermode browsers + addons... hosts are queried LONG before addons work, period)... apk

    1. Re:AdBlock can't do as much as hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so, you give up disproving the seven points made ?

      1. "hosts cannot white-list"
      2. "hosts cannot selectively block *anything* (blocking templates)"
      3. "hosts rely on unknown potentially sold-out 3rd parties"
      4. "hosts are slow to update (poor reactivity)"
      5. "hosts are slow to search (poor linear lookup)"
      6. "hosts cannot block self-hosted ads"
      7. "[...] hostfiles are not and cannot be user-specific and require admin privileges to be edited. This means that a non-admin user cannot set this up, and has exactly zero way to configure it at will. So if you're at work on a work laptop with non-admin right. hosts cannot help you. Adblock ? easy ! three clicks away."

      all things adblock and others can, and you failed addressing any of these points. you're actively avoiding answering them.

  101. LMAO: You fail in a 15++:0 ratio... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts are easy to update fast & current via my work here http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    Hosts can "whitelist" easily - don't put things you want BLOCKED INTO HOSTS (are you stupid?) & you can even speed up your favorite sites by entering them hardcoded @ the top of a hosts file for more speed (+ reliability vs. DNS poisoning).

    Sold out, you say? Tell us about "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" selling out -> & then, tell us another one (what you are, clearly, is an imbecile). Nothing "POTENTIAL" about that, per this reputable source http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... on that note (adblock selling out to NOT DO ITS JOB RIGHT).

    Hosts are FASTER & MORE EFFICIENT (and work, unlike adblock, crippled by default & sold out like it is) by far since they're queried & in use LONG before browser addons are, or didn't THIS point that out to you also (lousy efficiency) https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...

    Poor linear lookup? Putting your fav sites hardcoded into hosts @ the top of them as I noted earlier above easily BLOWS ADBLOCK AWAY since hosts gets cached into RAM like any file does, dimwit! Rest of its entries are blocked, known as bad on many grounds (who cares how 'fast' you get to those - you never intended to reach them anyhow).

    User specific? Are you THAT stupid?? Hosts operate GLOBALLY protecting globally as they ought to, offering more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity (that adblock just CAN'T DO, or match, period).

    Lastly/Again: Ads that are served from the SAME server as a site don't pay - admen don't trust webmaster viewcounts is why. You rarely, IF EVER, see those. They're not practical and neither is your other bullshit, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> You fail again & totally, POINT BY POINT above... & of course, you also FAILED to disprove my points on things Adblock CAN NEVER, EVER DO (that hosts can) in a 15++:.5 ratio, here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme... - ROTFLMAO! This was "too easy"... apk

  102. apk failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts can "whitelist" easily - don't put things you want BLOCKED INTO HOSTS

    that's where you show that you're off: hosts cannot forbid ads everywhere but on a few select websites (e.g. your favorite website you want to support). that's called a whitelist :).

    Sold out, you say? Tell us about "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" selling out

    we didn't say adblock wasn't probably sold out, we said hosts were probably sold out.

    hosts gets cached into RAM like any file does

    so, to sum it up, on the one hand, you say adblock is bloated and slow because it's using RAM, but on the other hand hosts are fast like light because they're loaded in RAM. see the problem here ?

    User specific? [...] Hosts operate GLOBALLY protecting globally as they ought to, offering more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity (that adblock just CAN'T DO, or match, period).

    and again, you avoid addressing the issue with this: "This means that a non-admin user cannot set this up, and has exactly zero way to configure it at will. So if you're at work on a work laptop with non-admin right. hosts cannot help you. Adblock ? easy ! three clicks away."

    you fail so much it ain't funny anymore.

    Lastly/Again: Ads that are served from the SAME server as a site don't pay - admen don't trust webmaster viewcounts is why. You rarely, IF EVER, see those.

    only because you fail at understanding what is asked from you:

    hosts cannot block self-hosted ads

    a yes/no answer would do.

    so, from your lunatic posts all over the place, the answers to the 7 points are:

    1, 2, 6 and 7: no
    3, 4 and 5: yes

    for 3: "they're sold, but so is adblock" is your argument
    for 4: "use my crapware" is your argument"
    for 5: "go through the bothering process of sorting your file with your favorite sites at the top" is your argument

    and you still haven't produced a single line of code or a single proof of all your so-called accomplishments or any diploma you could have.

    in any dictionary from now on, right next to the word "failure", there will be a "(syn. apk)"

  103. Don't want a site or its ads blocked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock IS sold-out, no questions asked, proof's right here http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    See subject above? Simply edit hosts: There's your whitelist (or rename hosts to deactivate it temporarily, & then rename it back if need be...).

    Hosts do NOT eat up 4++ gb of RAM like Adblock does (or tear up CPU like mad too) -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...

    Ever heard of "run as" or rightclick run as admin? It's an option you know (or it's doable in shortcuts, easily) - you really show you're weak in computing there.

    Self-hosted ads don't PAY, fool - you will rarely, IF EVER, see them because of that. Admen do NOT trust webmasters on click counts.

    APK

    P.S.=> You fail: Especially since hosts do TONS more than Adblock EVER could, & more efficiently by far, on MANY levels (kernelmode operations, not redundant like browser addons with their messagepassing overheads + huge RAM & CPU Usage proven above, AND hosts are queried 1st as the resolver long before redundant inefficient addons even start working)... apk

  104. Malwarebytes = #1, proof inside (recent) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line above: MalwareBytes = BEST in the business for antivirus results -> http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    MalwareBytes also recommend, & HOST, my program here http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    * :)

    (I haven't heard tell of their forums being hacked - big deal: They didn't WRITE that forums board ware (they're easy to mess with too) but they SURE DID WRITE THE BEST ANTIVIRUS!)

    APK

    P.S.=> As usual, you fail, badly: Even MORESO here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... where I shot your "so-called 'points'" (pure bullshit, lol) to pieces - AND IT'S FUNNIER THAN HELL YOU CAN'T TOUCH MY 15 POINTS here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... that show 15 things adblock can't do for more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity that hosts CAN ... apk

    1. Re:Malwarebytes = #1, proof inside (recent) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you fail: a company using insecure software "recommends" (according to you, but we debunked that claim long ago) to use your software.

      you fail: the company does NOT recommend your crapware on their website and they don't host it. one of their employee suggest using it because "it will do" (and as a second choice, bettered by Hostsman)

      you fail: your "solution" for whitelist is utter crap. people don't want to spend time editing hosts while navigating depending on which site they visit.

      you fail: company policy forbid employees to have admin access to their workstation and your "solution" is to use "run as admin" to edit hosts, no less ??? you cannot be serious ?

      you fail: hosts cannot block self-hosted ads. period.

      you fail: hosts can be sold out as well, who knows (we never said adblock wasn't)

      you fail: my 16gb don't give a damn about adblock or hosts taking gb (which they *never* do for me)

      you fail: your so-called 15 points have been debunked by us 10 years ago many times. but you're a religious zealot, so we don't care about them anymore.

      you fail: your challenge was that we show adblock can do more. we did. bye bye little troll :)

    2. Re:Malwarebytes = #1, proof inside (recent) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What software did you write? Where'd it get recommendations from the best in a particular industry?

    3. Re:Malwarebytes = #1, proof inside (recent) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The troll losing to apk has none. He's all FAIL (lmao) as in his *BIG FAIL* here http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

  105. Adblock's inferior to hosts (15++:0 ratio) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't prove otherwise here (lmao) & you know it http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    POINT-BY-POINT ANNIHILATING YOU AS USUAL:

    Can HostsMan do 64-bit? No.

    Can HostsMan function minus sqlite?? No (which is also partially WHY hostsman can't go 64-bit too)

    IF sqlite *ever* "goes under"? Hostsman's shot (hate to say it, the author's on the right track as I am vs. browser addons inefficacy, & inefficiency)

    ---

    Nobody recommends *anything* from you either (hahaha) & yes, they have links on this page to my ware (which they also host for me) -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... AND yes, they recommend my program above other ones like it (with good reason, see above again...).

    ---

    Whitelisting in hosts is as simple as NOT putting entries into hosts to block a site or ad - yes, it's THAT simple to 'whitelist' an entry for hosts.

    ---

    Again: Ads on the same server as a website don't pay - advertisers don't TRUST webmasters alleged clickview counts (I don't blame admen that either actually).

    ---

    Hosts protect globally & themselves are protected by WPF + ACL (if not readonly attributes) - they protect the machine and people using it, all the time, as they ought to.

    ---

    AdBlock's SOLD OUT to NOT DO ITS JOB properly http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... (hosts aren't).

    You want to be inefficient as hell, ala -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ?

    * Well, then I suppose that's YOUR business (since you want to be stupid... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> This line of bullshit totally takes the cake from you:

    "your so-called 15 points have been debunked by us 10 years ago many times." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @09:07AM

    So it all makes total sense WHY you can't prove my points wrong on how hosts can do 15 things, adblock just plain can't (& what they BOTH do, hosts do more efficiently & better - period) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme... ... always a pleasure letting you annihilate yourself (while I just sit back & laugh)... apk

    1. Re:Adblock's inferior to hosts (15++:0 ratio) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whitelisting in hosts is as simple as NOT putting entries into hosts to block a site or ad - yes, it's THAT simple to 'whitelist' an entry for hosts.

      and how do I block ads for every sites but one ? that's right, you cannot do that.

      as for your crapware, from what you said, it must be considered as secure as the forum software malwarebytes use, i.e. not secure and therefore I highly recommend noone uses it since it needs admin privileges :)

  106. AdBlock filterset pages hacked, lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line above & "Read 'em and weep", troll https://adblockplus.org/blog/f...

    "you fail: a company using insecure software " - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 25, 2014 @05:41AM (#48456319)

    LMAO - I love it... pure reverse psychology, and with proof (so much for YOUR bullshit: As I said - & as the forums folks @ MalwareBytes said: "It can happen to anyone" & yes, it did, lol... oddly enough to YOUR favorite too (neither wrote the forums board wares, so I excuse it personally - but malwarebytes did the right thing & moved their forums directly to invision OFF OF MALWAREBYTES' SERVERS - did ABP? Not afaik...)

    Plus, of course, MalwareBytes IS #1 in antivirus/antispyware http://www.av-test.org/en/news... of this recent test.

    APK

    P.S.=> Which is only 1 of more than a few incidences I can cite on AdBlock/ABP forums OR more importantly, their data, being hacked... HOWEVER, ADBLOCK'S ACTUAL WARE DATA WAS HACKED - malwarebytes' code itself wasn't, lol!

    ... apk

  107. Your "huge fail"? Right here, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A dose of your own medicine used against you, perfectly (AdBlock hacked) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    * Had enough FAILING on your end yet? Keep coming... this is great practice!

    (@ Annihilating TECHNICALLY WEAK wannabes... like you!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Want to make ads work for 1 site only? Rename hosts to hostsX for example while you're @ that site, it'll show its ads - then, when you're done there? Rename it back (a simple batchfile from MVPS does that for you in fact -> http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho... ) - Clue: YOU FAIL YET AGAIN... as always!

    ... apk

    1. Re:Your "huge fail"? Right here, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Want to make ads work for 1 site only? Rename hosts to hostsX for example while you're @ that site, it'll show its ads - then, when you're done there? Rename it back (a simple batchfile from MVPS does that for you in fact

      oh yeah, that's a very practical solution thank you (not!).

      you do realize that your stupid solution is exactly the same thing that is wrong with linux fanboys, don't you ? ("oh that's easy, open the command line and ***do some black magic in bash***)

      we never said adblock was secure and we never said "adblock is recommending my software" so you have no point here. lmao apk is off medication

      you on the other hand just admitted that your software is as easy to hack as a forum software (hey, it can happen to anyone). conclusion: no, people shouldn't use it and they certainly shouldn't give it admin permissions and even less access to hosts. your crapware is a security disaster waiting to happen.